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Brian A M
Sat, Jun-24-06, 17:16
$$ Eric Gisse wrote: > > Y.Porat wrote: -=-
> > F / gamma*a = mass and addd iN THAT
> > CASE m [ i.e. "at REST" ] iS
> > CONSTANT!!

$$ REST (iNTRiNSiC) energy m*c^2 increases with motion,
Dimwit.!!
-=-
> You are apparently confused [surprise] by the concept of
> relativistic mass. Rest mass is an invariant - it doesn't
> change
> no matter which reference frame you are observing it in.

$$ REST mass is the mass which iNCREASEs with velocity,
Dimwit.!!
$$ How many possible different ways can you Mis-UNderstand
THAT?.
-=-
> Remember F = dp/dt? Aw who am I kidding, you don't even
> know what p is in relativity. [NO Angular momentum in
> GR.]

> I'm sick and fucking tired of alluding to something you
> clearly have no understanding of. [Linear momentum is p in
> GR.]

$$ m_1 REST $$ A MOViNG REST mass = m_1 REST + ---------------
= m_2 REST, mass. $$ Sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) $$ $$ KiNETiC/c^2 + REST
mass m_1 = Delta REST mass m_2 absorbed @ m_3. $$ $$ i.e. Note
iNTRiNSiC REST mass of m_3 is inCREASED ..by Delta m_2. $$
i.e. Note iNTRiNSiC REST mass of m_0 is deCREASED ..by Delta
m_2. $$ $$ A PHOTON is simply *DELTA* REST mass *TRANSFERED*
from m_0 ~ m_3. $$ [Where all KiNETiC energy ..of TRANSFERENCE
*can* come from m_0]. $$ $$ p.s. He heal who call he's-self
LEGiON 'cause da swine's so many. -=-
> [REST] m is always constant because it is rest mass. [<
> snicker >]

$$ NOTiCE m is ALWAYs constant ..only WHEN it isN'T MOViNG,
Dimwits.
$$ [You are by far the very MOST DENSE form of Dimwit in
GR-Tivity].
-=-
> [REST] m is always constant, retard. [Except WHEN it
> MOVEs, Dupe.]
>
> Your understanding is flawed, as usual. Stop thinking about
> relativistic mass - it does nothing but confuse people.

$$ Only *YOU* mentioned a "RELATiViSTiC" mass, here
..Cracked-pot.!!
$$ You seem ignorant that an SI "kilogram" isN'T a Coup-GR
"mass".!!
-=-
> > Y.Porat > > ----------------
Re: REST (iNTRiNSiC) energy m*c^2 increases with motion
..Dimwits.!! Re: Rest mass is the mass which increases with
velocity v ..Dupes.!! Re: DELTA (absorbed) REST mass, m_photon
= h*fL/c^2. End of POST.!!

R Norman
Sat, Jun-24-06, 17:16
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:33:36 GMT, brian a m stuckless
<bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>$$ Eric Gisse wrote: > > Y.Porat wrote: -=-
>> > F / gamma*a = mass and addd iN THAT
>> > CASE m [ i.e. "at REST" ] iS
>> > CONSTANT!!
>
> $$ REST (iNTRiNSiC) energy m*c^2 increases with motion,
> Dimwit.!!
> -=-
>> You are apparently confused [surprise] by the concept of
>> relativistic mass. Rest mass is an invariant - it doesn't
>> change
>> no matter which reference frame you are observing it in.
>
>$$ REST mass is the mass which iNCREASEs with velocity,
>Dimwit.!! $$ How many possible different ways can you
>Mis-UNderstand THAT?.

<trim a lot more nonsense>

It really doesn't matter how much you yell and scream in ALL
CAPS.

Rest mass is the mass at rest, that is, moving at zero
velocity in your frame of reference.. When the object gets
moving at high velocity, its mass changes but the object is
no longer at rest so the new value can't really be called
"rest" mass.

Brian A M
Sun, Jun-25-06, 06:15
> >$$ Eric Gisse wrote: > > Y.Porat wrote: -=-
> >> > F / gamma*a = mass and addd iN THAT
> >> > CASE m [ i.e. "at REST" ] iS
> >> > CONSTANT!!
> >
> > $$ REST (iNTRiNSiC) energy m*c^2 increases with motion,
> > Dimwit.!!
> > -=-
> >> Rest mass is an invariant - it doesn't change
> >> no matter which reference frame you are observing it in.
> >
> >$$ REST mass is the mass which iNCREASEs with velocity,
> >Dimwit.!! $$ How many possible different ways can you
> >Mis-UNderstand THAT?.
-=- $$ There is NO Angular
momentum in GR and Linear
momentum is p in GR. $$ $$ m_1
REST $$ A MOViNG REST mass =
m_1 REST + --------------- =
m_2 REST, mass. $$
Sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) $$ $$
KiNETiC/c^2 + REST mass m_1 =
Delta REST mass m_2 absorbed @
m_3. $$ $$ i.e. Note iNTRiNSiC
REST mass of m_3 is inCREASED
..by Delta m_2. $$ i.e. Note
iNTRiNSiC REST mass of m_0 is
deCREASED ..by Delta m_2. $$ $$
A PHOTON is simply *DELTA* REST
mass *TRANSFERED* from m_0 ~
m_3. $$ [Where all KiNETiC
energy ..of TRANSFERENCE *can*
come from m_0]. -=-
> [REST] m is always constant because it is rest mass. [<
> snicker >]

$$ NOTiCE m is ALWAYs constant ..only WHEN it isN'T MOViNG,
Dimwits.
$$ [You are by far the very MOST DENSE form of Dimwit in
GR-Tivity].
-=-
> [REST] m is always constant, retard. [Except WHEN it
> MOVEs, Dupe.]

$$ You seem ignorant that an SI "kilogram" isN'T a Coup-GR
"mass".!! -=- Re: REST (iNTRiNSiC) energy m*c^2 increases with
motion ..Dimwits.!! Re: Rest mass is the mass which increases
with velocity v ..Dupes.!! Re: DELTA (absorbed) REST mass,
m_photon = h*fL/c^2. End of POST.!!

$$ r norman wrote: > > <trim a lot more nonsense >>
> Rest mass is the mass at rest, that is, moving at zero
> velocity in your frame of reference.. When the object gets
> moving at high velocity, its mass changes but the object is
> no longer at rest so the new value can't really be called
> "rest" mass.

$$ We distinguished REST m_original + (Kinetic eK)/c^2 ..as
REST m_2. $$ This "new value" CAN REALLY be called iNCREASED
"rest" mass, Dupe. $$ The new value CAN REALLY be called
*iNCREASED* REST mass m_2, Dud. $$ The REST m_2 is the
DiFFERENCE of rest mass the EMiTTER DEcreases. $$ The REST m_2
is the DiFFERENCE of rest mass an ABSORBER iNcreases. $$ The
REST m_2 is the DiFFERENCE of, h*fL/c^2, a DETECTOR iNcreases.

Re: Rest mass is the mass which increases with velocity.
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