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MyJourney
Sun, May-14-06, 21:41
Some try ultra-fat diet to combat medical conditions

Posted 5/14/2006 7:56 PM ET
By Ben Harder, Special for USA TODAY

For a month that tested her determination, Marilyn Deaton dined on little but fat. The recipes she prepared included eggs baked with gobs of cream cheese, small portions of fish outweighed by butter, oil and mayo, and ground beef mixed with so much heavy cream that it ran a light brown.
"I can't stand things that are soft and slimy," says Deaton, 60, of New York. She missed "crunchable stuff," such as carrots, she says.

Deaton has Parkinson's disease. The disagreeable diet was an experimental treatment prescribed by her doctors. Four other Parkinson's patients followed the same menu.

The results, which included modest improvements in balance, tremors and mood, were encouraging but too preliminary to prove an effect, says Theodore VanItallie of St. Luke's-Roosevelt Medical Hospital Center in New York. VanItallie and his colleagues published their findings last year in the journal Neurology.

Their trial and other recent studies hint that a diet nearly devoid of protein and carbohydrates might temper symptoms of several neurodegenerative disorders, including Alzheimer's and Lou Gehrig's disease, VanItallie says.

Researchers suspect that such a high-fat diet also could stall brain tumors and help patients with certain other health problems — if it doesn't cause strokes along the way.

Though such a solution may sound far-fetched, a similar diet has been used since the 1920s to treat severe epilepsy. Numerous studies, most of them in children who had exhausted other options, have since found that it reduces seizures.

There's scant clinical evidence to address whether the plan, called the ketogenic diet, has wider therapeutic promise. Researchers aren't sure how it works against epilepsy, and they hold various theories about why it might, or might not, help in other disorders.

Some of the benefits result from a shift in the brain's metabolism from blood sugar, the body's main fuel, to ketone bodies, a secondary energy source that is a byproduct of fat metabolism, says Richard Veech, a physician and biochemist with the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md.

But, Veech says, "while VanItallie has shown that (the ketogenic diet) works, as a practical matter, one can't recommend it."

The obvious downside

Consequences of high fat intake, heart problems for one, could offset the diet's hypothetical benefits in some people, Veech says. In any case, the daunting challenge of maintaining the unpalatable regimen makes it unlikely to catch on.

"Most people would have a very hard time following this diet," says Cathy Non-as, the dietitian at North General Hospital in New York who designed Deaton's plan. The plan requires that 90% of the patients' calories come from fat and just 8% from protein. In the average American diet, fat makes up 33% of calories, and protein accounts for 15%.

When a person fasts or subsists mainly on fat, blood sugar declines. The liver responds by converting fatty acids into ketone bodies, which normally circulate in the blood at low levels, rising as time passes since a person's most recent meal, when glucose is abundant.

Popular low-carb diets, such as Atkins, may generate some ketone bodies, but not necessarily enough to have a therapeutic benefit, VanItallie says.

Ketone bodies can accumulate to dangerous levels, in diabetics, for example, and turn the blood acidic. But moderately elevated levels are theoretically beneficial in a range of circumstances, Veech says.

Lab studies and a few desperate medical cases lend some support to that notion. For example, when added to intravenous resuscitation fluids in place of a typical ingredient, ketone bodies also reduce organ damage after major blood loss, says hematologist C. Robert Valeri of the Naval Blood Research Laboratory in Plymouth, Mass. He and his colleagues demonstrated that in pigs.

Other teams have shown that the molecules protect mice against neurological changes linked to Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.

Last month, researchers at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York reported similar findings for Lou Gehrig's disease, or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. Giulio Pasinetti of Mount Sinai says his team is launching a trial to treat patients with the disease.

In an older report, a ketogenic diet appeared to slow tumor growth in two children with inoperable brain cancer. Neurobiologist Thomas Seyfried of Boston College later demonstrated the effectiveness of that approach in mice.

Most brain tumor cells, Seyfried says, "can't burn ketones for energy," so elevating ketone levels and simultaneously reducing blood sugar may starve the tumors while nourishing healthy cells.

A 'lite' version

VanItallie and Non-as are gearing up for a new Parkinson's trial that will test a hybrid of the 90%-fat regimen and the Atkins diet. They've invited their former volunteers to participate.

Deaton says her Parkinson's symptoms improved during the original trial, which was conducted in 2003. And losing 26 pounds was a bonus, she says. But even with a more lenient menu on the table, she doesn't plan on signing up again.

She's trying a more conventional weight-loss plan. It lets her eat carrots.


Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-05-14-diet-treatment_x.htm

Turtle2003
Mon, May-15-06, 18:18
Eating lots of rich, creamy, yummy things improved her Parkinson's symptoms and she lost 26 pounds in one month, and all this woman can think of are carrots. Good grief. Takes all kinds.

ThomasCGT
Tue, May-16-06, 02:44
And these so-called educated persons still mumble about stroke and heart disease from satfat. That is 50 year old pseudo-scientific nonsense. Shame on them.

TBoneMitch
Tue, May-16-06, 09:22
The plan requires that 90% of the patients' calories come from fat and just 8% from protein. In the average American diet, fat makes up 33% of calories, and protein accounts for 15%


And they keep telling us that the Standard American Diet is a high fat diet...

Fat is said to cause stroke, heart disease, etc at 33% of calories while carbs are said to be harmless at 52% of calories.

Do I smell a twisted sense of logic here?

Turtle2003
Tue, May-16-06, 09:26
Does anyone have access to the Neurology journal? It would be interesting to see more about the diet these folks were following.

ThomasCGT
Wed, May-17-06, 02:19
They say laughter is good medicine. For my laughs I also subscribe to a mad mainstream medicine (MMM) newsletter, hearthealth on line. Recently brilliant German MMM doctors concluded that their patients, after heart attack and angioplasty, are not sticking to their newly recommended lo-sat-fat diet, except for staying off eggs. Congratulaions on their clever work. By-pass surgery for that lot next year means a new BMW!!

MyJourney
Thu, May-18-06, 12:17
Does anyone have access to the Neurology journal? It would be interesting to see more about the diet these folks were following.

From what I understood it was the famed "ketogenic diet" they put epileptics on. My friend who is an epileptic told me about it.

He said its almost all fat, more than Atkins probably similar to a fat fast. Very low in carbs and protein.

He was on this ketogenic diet for a while and then switched to Atkins at 70/25/5 and was doing just as well on it.

There were a couple of other studies that showed that Atkins levels of ketones helped epileptics.

I think this diet is 90/8/2 and the fat fast is something like 85/12/3

OldDoc2B
Thu, May-18-06, 12:29
Does anyone have access to the Neurology journal? It would be interesting to see more about the diet these folks were following.

I'm a med student and can probably get you any articles that are available on the web.

I have the two studies from '95 that had two children with astrocytomas on ketogenic diets. As I recall, the tumors stopped growing or shrank and both children demonstrated increases in function.

To the best of my knowledge, the study has never been cited or repeated.

LC FP
Thu, May-18-06, 15:49
OldDoc, they are cited in this N+M article:

http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/30

but they're conspicuously absent from any of the mainstream cancer journals.

OldDoc2B
Thu, May-18-06, 19:34
OldDoc, they are cited in this N+M article:

http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/30

but they're conspicuously absent from any of the mainstream cancer journals.

One in 16 years. Atrocious.

OldDoc2B
Thu, May-18-06, 20:21
Thanks for reminding me about Seyfried's research; I had completely forgotten about it! Thinking back, I seem to remember him putting more emphasis on the calorie restriction than ketosis, something I wasn't buying.

pbowers
Fri, May-19-06, 06:08
here's a link (http://ca.geocities.com/paul.bowers/00006114-200502220-00033.pdf) to the article being discussed.

Turtle2003
Fri, May-19-06, 09:13
Thanks very much for that link.

LC FP
Fri, May-19-06, 11:57
Thanks for the link. Here's a funny line from the pdf:

"However, for unknown reasons, (perhaps because of the diet's inherent unpalatibility), all (patients) lost varying quantities of body weight during the study period (mean 6.1 Kg, range 4.1 to 9.5)."

MyJourney
Sun, May-21-06, 10:57
Thanks for the link. Here's a funny line from the pdf:

"However, for unknown reasons, (perhaps because of the diet's inherent unpalatibility), all (patients) lost varying quantities of body weight during the study period (mean 6.1 Kg, range 4.1 to 9.5)."

Of course! All low carbers lose weight because our foods are just so unpalatable. How dare someone think we can eat and enjoy foods like full fat cheese and nuts?

Turtle2003
Sun, May-21-06, 12:12
Yeah, I noticed that "for unknown reasons" line too. LOL

I wish the article had mentioned how many calories the subjects were eating, or did I miss something? Maybe they didn't want to give those numbers because the patients were eating lots of calories and still losing like crazy on the high fat diet and that's a no-no the researchers wouldn't want to admit.

The more I think about this the more suspicious I am that the subjects were eating lots of calories and still losing. If the researchers wanted to prove the fact that folks lost weight because of the 'unpalatable' nature of the food, all they had to do was to give the calorie counts, which they must have known because they were following their subjects so closely. Matter of fact, this would have been the perfect opportunity to disparage LC dieting by proving that the weight loss was due to reduced quantity rather than the LC food itself.

arc
Sun, May-21-06, 13:25
On a completely unrelated, off-topic note, does it bug any one else that MyJourney's avatar has two 7s in the fourth column?

:D :D :D

Viking Dan
Sun, May-21-06, 13:34
Dr. Kwasniewski would not be surprised by this at all.

MyJourney
Sun, May-21-06, 17:40
oh no! lol I must have missed it. Time to update the avatar lol

arc
Sun, May-21-06, 17:55
oh no! lol I must have missed it. Time to update the avatar lol

Much better :thup: