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Dodger
Tue, May-02-06, 16:18
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/9146660/detail.html

Doctor Calls Differences 'Dramatic'

CHICAGO -- Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their counterparts in England, startling new research shows, despite U.S. health care spending per person that's more than double what England spends.

A higher rate of Americans tested positive for diabetes and heart disease than the English. Americans also self-reported more diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, lung disease and cancer.

The gap between the countries holds true for educated and uneducated, rich and poor.

"At every point in the social hierarchy there is more illness in the United States than in England and the differences are really dramatic," said study co-author Dr. Michael Marmot, an epidemiologist at University College London in England.

The study, appearing in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association, adds context to the already-known fact that the United States spends more on health care than any other industrialized nation, yet trails in rankings of life expectancy.

The United States spends about $5,200 per person on health care while England spends about half that in adjusted dollars.

"Everybody should be discussing it: Why isn't the richest country in the world the healthiest country in the world?" Marmot said.

"It's something of a mystery," said Richard Suzman of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, which helped fund the study.

The researchers looked for answers in the data, which came from government-sponsored health surveys. The research was supported by grants from government agencies in both countries. A U.S. researcher from the Rand Corp. was on the team.

Smoking rates are about the same on both sides of the pond. The English have a higher rate of heavy drinking, but a higher percentage of Americans are obese.

The researchers crunched numbers to create a hypothetical statistical world in which the English had American lifestyle risk factors, including being as fat as Americans. In that model, the researchers found Americans still would be sicker.

Only non-Hispanic whites were included in the study to eliminate the influence of racial disparities. The researchers looked only at people ages 55 through 64, and the average age of the samples was the same.

Americans reported twice the rate of diabetes compared to the English: 12.5 percent versus 6 percent. For high blood pressure, it was 42 percent for Americans versus 34 percent for the English; cancer showed up in 9.5 percent of Americans compared to 5.5 percent of Britains.

The upper crust in both countries was healthier than middle-class and low-income people in the same country. But richer Americans' health status resembled the health of the low-income English.

Health experts have known the U.S. population is less healthy than that of other industrialized nations, according to several important measurements. U.S. life expectancy, for example, ranks behind that of about two dozen other countries, according to the World Health Organization.

Some have believed the U.S. has lagged because it has a more ethnically diverse population than some of the higher-ranking countries, said Suzman, who heads the National Institute on Aging's Behavioral and Social Research Program. "Minority health in general is worse than white health," he said.

But the new study showed that when minorities are removed from the equation, and adjustments are made to control for education and income, white people in England are still healthier than white people in the United States.

"As far as I know, this is the first study showing this," said Suzman who called the results "surprising." But some other experts said the findings were predictable.

Earlier studies have shown the United States does a poorer job than other industrialized countries at providing primary medical care to its citizens, particularly to those with less education and income, said Dr. Barbara Starfield, a professor of health policy and pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University.

"Countries oriented toward providing good primary care basically do better in health," she said.

Marmot offered yet another explanation for the gap: Americans' financial insecurity. Improvements in household income have eluded all but the top fifth of Americans since the mid-1970s. Meanwhile, the English saw their incomes improve, he said.

Robert Blendon, a professor of health policy at the Harvard School of Public Health who was not involved in the study, said the stress of striving for the American dream may account for Americans' lousy health.

"The opportunity to go both up and down the socioeconomic scale in America may create stress," Blendon said. Americans don't have a reliable government safety net like the English enjoy, Blendon said.

However, England's universal health-care system shouldn't get credit for better health, Marmot and Blendon agreed.

Both said it might explain better health for low-income citizens, but can't account for better health of England's more affluent residents.

Marmot cautioned against looking for explanations in the two countries' health-care systems.

"It's not just how we treat people when they get ill, but why they get ill in the first place," Marmot said.

Nancy LC
Tue, May-02-06, 17:50
Probably because we commute more miles in the US, work too many hours and don't get enough vacations. And probably get less walking in.

kebaldwin
Tue, May-02-06, 20:21
No surprise.

We started the "western diet" and suffered longer and worse than most countries. I'll bet that as more countries adopt more and more of the "western diet" (i.e. crap replaces their natural healthy foods as a larger and larger percentage of their diet) -- their health with steadily decrease.

Weston A Price studied this 70 years ago.

Current medical care does not make you healthy. It just keeps you alive longer so that you need more medical care. If they wanted healthy patients they would prescribe a low carb, high fat diet with supplements.

Rsmry
Tue, May-02-06, 21:50
I tend to agree with you both, Kebaldwin and Nancy. Americans work WAY harder than Europeans on average and there has been greater acceptance by "business" here that people have lives outside of work and that that is actually okay. And junk food is simply too good and too easily available in the US. Thing is, they really need to look at changes in the health status of Europeans over a long period. Like everything else, the bad health caused by poor nutrition is catching up on this side of the Atlantic too, so while western Europeans may be healthier than Americans now, that may not be the case in ten or twenty years.

One thing I am convinced is a problem, even though I cannot cite any scientifically proven evidence, is the hormones and antibiotics allowed in animal feed in the US that are banned in most of Europe and have been for a long time. Here in Sweden, livestock/poultry are given antibiotics only if they are sick, never "preventively" and hormones are not allowed, period. They also have very strict animal cruelty regulations, so you never see the disgusting "feed lot" places as in the US, animals cannot be transported for long distances to slaughter without being given rest, food and water, etc. That has got to reduce the stress hormones in the animals.

Re the difference between national health financed by taxes or private insurance systems as in the US, I have lived under both and I'll take the former anytime. Truthfully, if you have great insurance in the US, healthcare is better. Faster, more convenient, no waiting lists, etc. If you don't have insurance, it is dreadful. At least here everyone has access and nobody has to worry that if they get cancer, their lives will also be devastated financially. A couple of weeks ago, my sister (a cancer patient) was in the hospital with sepsis. The drug they needed to use to fix her was not covered by insurance and cost 1200 dollars. They would not give her the drug until they had her check in their hot little hands. Here, my *yearly* cap for out-of-pocket drug expenses is about 120 dollars.

The last comment about why people get ill in the first place still has to do with lack of access to healthcare, I believe. Some diseases/conditions are a long time in the making and could be caught earlier and dealt with better if people could afford to go to the doctor.
Rosemary

Citruskiss
Tue, May-02-06, 22:05
I keep thinking trans fats and high fructose corn syrup....

Currently HFCS remains an almost uniquely American phenomenon as, although it is not actually banned in Europe (and other markters), the relative greater availibilty of cane sugar against maize in these markets (coupled with generally negative consumer attitudes towards it [particularly in Europe]) has made it uneconomical to produce it there. American-produced HFCS cannot be exported to Europe because of the European Community's ban on genetically modified food.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup

I knew there was a reason everything tasted sweeter here in the US...I recall talking about it awhile back, how the bread here and the same brand cereals tasted sweeter in general (noticed on a visit back in 2003 with my then fiance).

While I'm pretty sure Britain hasn't actually banned trans fats, I get the impression that quite a few of their food products manufacturers have jumped on the bandwagon (perhaps more so than in the US) to eliminate them from their products.

Perhaps one of the real culprits in this disparity is the HFCS, even more so than trans fats.

Nancy LC
Wed, May-03-06, 09:42
A couple of weeks ago, my sister (a cancer patient) was in the hospital with sepsis. The drug they needed to use to fix her was not covered by insurance and cost 1200 dollars. They would not give her the drug until they had her check in their hot little hands.
Wow! Was that in the US?

It is interesting to note that the sorts of diseases they compared were metabolic ones, diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure and that sort of thing.

I know in the UK people just do a lot more walking and use their cars less, relying more on mass transit. That's gotta have somethign to do with it.

Also, it was posited that people in the US are more socially isolated. They spend so much time commuting, working that they don't have a lot of social contacts.

cs_carver
Thu, May-04-06, 13:53
Although this may be changing. You can't buy as many groceries at one time in Russia, and you have no-where in your kitchen to keep that much food. So you can't eat "it all" in one sitting, and when it's gone, you have to WALK to the store to get more.

makes a difference. Heard there were fewer fat people in Manhatten, too. Even with all the taxis, there's a lot of walking, and they have the small kitchens, too.