Reading PP book. I need help!!!

[tskako]

I have read most of the Protein Power book and have answered allot of questions, plan to change some habits I've developed, (like way too much processed meat), and this is kind of where my questions come into the picture. When I began LCing, I really had a difficult time with hunger pains, and felt like I was getting a hold of this by adding fats, such as butter, dressing, etc. but as far as I can tell, PP really advocates a lean diet. So today, I told myself I will follow the plan as recommended and eat lean foods, evenly spread out my carbs and protein, etc. The hunger pains are back. Any suggestions. I know this is to be avoided and I don't feel very good either.
For breakfast I had at 7 am:
1 oz salami (need to use the processed meats)
2.5 ritz crackers
1 oz mozz cheese
16 oz water

Early lunch or snack because of hunger pains at 10:30:
1/3 C froze strawberries
2 T heavy cream, whipped
1 tsp Splenda

Lunch(Hunger pains lurking at 11:30):
2 oz chicken
1/2 C 4% cottage cheese
1 T margarine
1/2 slice wheat bread

Did errands and here come the hunger pains at 2:30
So I grabbed a McD's cheese burger, minus the ketchup, mustard, and bun.

And here I am very frustrated, feeling yucky at about 4:00.
Should I go back to the way I was eating? The fat loss, (anybody catch that, not weight loss as the book puts it :) ) was slow but was decreasing. Any suggestions?

I don't remeber reading anything about calories and I know I 've read many posts about consuming 10-12 x's our weight. How when following PP in a lean manor? :confused: I'm confused.

- tskako

[doreen T]

hi tskako,

First, I'm assuming you're reading the original Protein Power, not the followup edition, PP Lifeplan??

Please re-read pages 101 - 102, about fats. I think you'll see that the Drs. Eades do NOT restrict fat ... only the type of fat. You should avoid all processed, hydrogenated trans fats like a plague -- margarine is poison (read pp 341 - 343). Cold-pressed and virgin oils, natural butter and the natural saturated fats found in meats and poultry are fine to eat ... they have no carbs, provide satiety and make food taste good. So go ahead and enjoy!


If you are hungry, eat! Eat protein. Your meals look way deficient in protein ... you should be consuming barest minimum 60g per day ... which divides into 20g per meal. That oz each of salami and cheese barely rack up 12, maybe 14 grams! Have an egg, or more cheese. The amounts of protein they suggest are minimums ... you are encouraged to have more than that.

You might also find some answers to your menu planning questions at the Protein Power website's FAQ's page (http://eatprotein.com/answers.html)

Good luck! :)

Doreen

[tskako]

Thanks Doreen. Yes, I am reading the original Protein Power. I'll be sure and reread those pages you suggested. I remember it said not to worry about counting fats, but I think I 've been eating the wrong fats; miracle whip, butter, salad dressing, but it certainly helped me easily get from one meal to the next, with very litttle snacking. I get confused when it comes to good fats and bad fats. I really don't know the difference. I remember reading the technical terms in the book but it didn't mean much to me. Thank you for the margarine tip. I have read the book in a scattered manner I didn't read the margarine info, so thanks.
I agree this morning was a mighty bit short on the protein. I was reading the book wrong and thought the chart showed for a whole day instead of each meal. Silly me. :daze: I figured it out after it was too late. I thought that was a bit slim of a meal. :)
But I was amazed the lunch didn't last longer. That was what the book suggests and about 20 gr protein. Am I an odd ball or should it have lasted more than 2 hours in my belly????? Maybe it's back to the bacon??? I did read the importance of protein for snacking. So that's when McD's came into the picture.
I really like the idea of a more lean WOL since I was concerned about the fat intake, but I don't like the hunger pains and naussea from them. And I feel tired today. Not sure if it's all of this or what.
- tskako

[Natrushka]

tskako, I know it takes some reworking as far as mind set goes, but fat is your friend. The fat you eat will not make you fat if you do not eat carbs with it. Further in the book the Eades will explain this.

The only really 'bad' fat for you is of the "trans" fat variety found in margarine and processed foods. If you stick to whole foods you'll do fine. Part of why you're feeling hungry is lack of a) fat and b) protein adding up to lack of c) calories. You need to eat; your body is telling you something!

Take a look at my Journal (http://forum.lowcarber.org/t16392.html) from my first days of LCing and you'll see that I struggled with eating enough; but I did and it payed off.

Salad dressings are ok, as long as they are not rich in sugar (read that label) and get some real mayonnaise (miracle whip is full of sugar).

And repeat to yourself often "Fat is my friend" :D

Nat

[Karen]

I would say that what is causing your hunger is the carbs, especially the processed ones:

2.5 ritz crackers
1/3 C froze strawberries
2 T heavy cream, whipped
1 tsp Splenda
1/2 slice wheat bread

This stuff can set off cravings real bad.

Karen

[Harley]

Ive been feeling lousy and miserable and slightly cravey for about a week and to add to that I havnt wanted to eat. So I ate nuts and cream and low carb bars but felt worse and worse. Then my dad insisted we eat liver which I was sure would make me hurl but.. (and heres the point of the story) I forced myself to eat it and I could hear my body going 'yes, yes, more' so I ate loads and suddenly my mega cranky mood lifted I felt hapier and had no cravings! I made myself eat an omlette for breakfast and although part of me thought yuk my body was sooo happy.

My point is that whatever our brain may want our body really needs the high protein boost, so even if we really cant face it or dont have time for it we must make sure to keep the protein high. It may help to look at it like medication that we have to take.

[Heeligan2]

As far as mayo, if you get canola mayonnaise, it has only "good" fats, I believe. I was initially put off by the color, but it is delicious.
Good luck!

[Rita M.]

Hi Heelign2,

What color is the canola mayo and which brand do you recommend.

I miss tuna and would love to have some with mayo.

Thanks

Rita

[Pokey]

Where do you fing unprocessed meat? and what are some examples of uprocessed meat? Sorry to sound so ignorant about this but i need to know.
Thanks,
Pokey

[Azlocarb]

Pokey
Unprocessed meat would be any natural cut of meat such as a hole chicken or cut up hole chicken, a beef steak, roast or burger, pork chops or loin, and fresh or frozen fish fillets. Processed meat would be any of the dry sausages, or deli lunchmeat that has preservatives. Basically any meat that has been only butchered and cut up can be considered “unprocessed”.