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kwikdriver
Tue, Mar-07-06, 19:20
The United States spends considerably more on health care (actually, disease care) than any other country in the world. So, is all this money buying us the best health in the world?

No.

Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a report showing that recent immigrants reported significantly better physical and mental health (such as lower rates of obesity and high blood pressure) than their U.S.-born counterparts, despite having limited access to health care and little or no health insurance. The study found that people from other countries (African-American, Asian and Hispanic) who move to the United States become progressively less healthy the longer they stay in the country. Those who were U.S. residents for five years or more were 54 percent more likely to have high blood pressure and 25 percent more likely to have cardiovascular diseases, for example, than those who lived here less than five years.

In other words, moving to the United States can make you sick.

Why? The diets and lifestyles in many other countries are much healthier than in the United States. In our research, my colleagues and I found that an Asian way of eating (predominantly fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes and soy products) and living (moderate exercise, stress management and strong communities) may stop and even reverse the progression of coronary heart disease as well as prostate cancer. These lifestyle changes may also help to prevent or reverse diabetes, hypertension and obesity, as well as reduce the risks of the most common forms of cancer.

Unfortunately, the trend is moving the other way. Other countries are beginning to eat like us, live like us and die like us. They are rapidly forgoing their own healthier diet and lifestyle and copying ours. As a result, a globalization of illness is occurring that is almost completely preventable.

In only one generation, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity, and other chronic diseases have gone from being among the least common to the most frequent causes of premature death and disease in most of the developing world. Cardiovascular deaths now equal HIV/AIDS deaths in most African countries. It used to be uncommon to see an overweight person walking down the street in China or India, but not any more.

But because this is a recent phenomenon—they are on the steep rise of the exponential curve—intervention now can make a powerful difference.

A recent study found that reducing deaths from chronic disease by only 2 percent annually would prevent 36 million premature deaths in just 10 years. Most of these benefits will be in low-income and middle-income countries, and almost half will be in people younger than 70, despite the common misconception that these chronic diseases are found mainly in old, affluent people.

This is an extraordinary opportunity to practice preventive medicine on a global scale.

It costs less to eat and live more healthfully. Walking, loving, meditating, and quitting smoking are free and require no special equipment.

In contrast, it costs thousands of dollars per person per year for lifesaving drugs that are needed to treat HIV/AIDS, malaria, and TB in developing countries. Thus, using diet and lifestyle changes to prevent and treat chronic diseases can free up significant resources for treating HIV/AIDS, TB, malaria, and other illnesses that do require expensive medications. And these drugs work better when combined with good nutrition and healthier lifestyles.

Unfortunately, developing countries are now beginning to spend billions of dollars on angioplasty, bypass surgery and medications--much of which could be avoided by going back to their original diets and lifestyles.

Multinational food companies can play a large role in helping to prevent chronic diseases around the world by offering healthier choices in the United States and abroad. For the past several years, I have been consulting with the CEOs of major food companies such as PepsiCo, McDonald’s, ConAgra, Safeway and Del Monte. I thought that if they would make and market foods that are tasty, convenient, and healthful; educate people about the powerful health benefits of nutrition and lifestyle; and use their considerable marketing resources to make it fun, sexy, crunchy and hip to eat this way, exercise, stress less and love more, this could make a powerful difference in the lives of millions of people each day, both in this country and worldwide. They can provide a full spectrum of choices from indulgent to healthful.

These companies are finding it’s not only the right thing to do, but also it’s good business as well. Last year, for example, PepsiCo reported that 67 percent of its revenue growth came from its healthier foods. McDonald’s introduced a Fruit and Walnut Salad with apple slices, walnuts, and grapes that’s become so popular it’s made McDonald’s the world’s largest purchaser of apples. ConAgra’s Healthy Choice line of foods had $1.5 billion in sales last year. Safeway introduced a successful new line of organic foods. Del Monte’s Fruit Naturals (personal servings of fresh fruit sold in individual containers) have become among its most successful products. All of these companies are emphasizing the importance of exercise and energy balance as well.

Are these companies moving as quickly as I might like? Of course not. But they're moving much faster than I ever believed possible.

Ironically, more healthful foods and lifestyle choices coming from the United States may help people in Asia and other countries realize the power of their indigenous diet and culture. They can copy our successes, not our mistakes.

This is a great opportunity for food companies to show global leadership. They can get credit for helping to solve the worldwide crisis in cardiovascular disease, obesity, and diabetes. Also, they can get credit for creating culinary and cultural diversity.

By working together with organizations like the World Health Organization, the Clinton Foundation, the American Heart Association, and others, food companies can help people in these countries realize the value of their traditional diet and lifestyle. They can also help educate consumers about the short-term and long-term benefits of exercise, smoking cessation, and stress management, both here and worldwide. Instead of globalizing illness, we can globalize health.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11702323/site/newsweek/page/1/


Not a word about his extremist lowfat diet or anti-meatism (it's Newsweek, after all, a cautious, middle of the road publication). He talks about "eating healthfully" without ever actually saying what "healthful eating" is. It's a sign, I think, of how far away the country has moved from fat phobia that Ornish has to hide his extreme beliefs.

Lisa N
Tue, Mar-07-06, 20:04
He talks about "eating healthfully" without ever actually saying what "healthful eating" is.

He does hint at it, though, with his example of 'The Asian Way'. ;) In typical slanted Ornish style, he neglects to mention that in many Asian diets, fish is a major part of the menu as well as beef, pork, poultry, dairy and eggs and that the traditional favorite oil for cooking in Japan is lard. ;)

In our research, my colleagues and I found that an Asian way of eating (predominantly fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes and soy products)

LC FP
Tue, Mar-07-06, 20:07
Ornish has to hide his extreme beliefs
I agree, kwik. What's weird is I agree with almost everything he says in this article. The closest he comes to mentioning fat is this:

In our research, my colleagues and I found that an Asian way of eating (predominantly fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes and soy products)
close but not quite.

And he mentions the value of other countries traditional diet and lifestyle a couple times.

But I'm brought back to reality when he makes goofy statements about the companies (that pay him) and their god-awful "healthier lines" of salads and fruit cups and how they can teach the world something about nutrition:

Ironically, more healthful foods and lifestyle choices coming from the United States may help people in Asia and other countries realize the power of their indigenous diet and culture.
He's still an idiot.

kwikdriver
Tue, Mar-07-06, 20:40
He's still an idiot.


On the contrary, he's a very smart man, certainly smarter than, say, Dr. Atkins was. Atkins fought with truth on his side, whereas Ornish chooses much more useful allies, corporations and peoples' innate biases and desires. Ornish knows exactly what he's doing, and he gets paid a mint for it, to boot. You and I know how nutty the real Ornish is, but the average person thinks he's a health guru with their best interests at heart, and he's got a column in one of the most respected mainstream publications in the country. An idiot couldn't pull that off. Manipulative and nutty ("Meditation and love") yes. Idiot, not a chance.

Groggy60
Wed, Mar-08-06, 12:03
Perhaps Atkins should have added meditation and love to low-carb, its probably not too late.

Hard feel sorry Atkins and the many millions he earned himself.

Nancy LC
Wed, Mar-08-06, 12:11
What whole grains do Asians eat? They don't eat much wheat, the rice they eat is white rice with the bran removed. They don't eat corn. I don't see much grains in their diet other than rice, which isn't whole at all.

Hellistile
Wed, Mar-08-06, 12:15
I listen to the radio a lot and and there are many commercials about how healthy eating and exercise may not be enough to bring down your cholesterol (so take drugs). "Healthy Eating" and "Portion Control" are being thrown around like crazy but NO ONE is mentioning specifics. This leads me to think that they (mainstream dietary gurus and dietitians) really don't know what to recommend safely and are therefore being extremely vague. I call this progress, but it's so darned slow.

Hellistile
Wed, Mar-08-06, 12:18
What whole grains do Asians eat? They don't eat much wheat, the rice they eat is white rice with the bran removed. They don't eat corn. I don't see much grains in their diet other than rice, which isn't whole at all.
Exactly! And they certainly don't eat as much soy as we (north americans) think they do and it's always fermented and prepared traditionally.

LC FP
Wed, Mar-08-06, 12:26
He's also fat.

kwikdriver
Wed, Mar-08-06, 12:55
What whole grains do Asians eat? They don't eat much wheat, the rice they eat is white rice with the bran removed. They don't eat corn. I don't see much grains in their diet other than rice, which isn't whole at all.


Whole grains are good for you; the "traditional Asian diet" is good for you, therefore the "traditional Asian diet" has whole grains. It's quite logical.

ProfGumby
Wed, Mar-08-06, 13:46
Perhaps Atkins should have added meditation and love to low-carb, its probably not too late.

Hard feel sorry Atkins and the many millions he earned himself.

I do not feel sorry for any one dime Dr Atkins earned for himself. Dr Atkins, unlike Ornish, made his money over a long period of decades. Dr Atkins made his money by actually helping people and improving their lives. In fact, I'd bet that if one was to look, there were many, many years where Dr Atkins made only a modest living while fighting an upstream battle against the low fat crowd, big pharma and the many vegitarian doctors and the animal rights people.

All Ornish has done is make a living throwing stones as a front for the PCRM, which is basically a front for an animal rights group. Ornish has a definate agenda, and will stop at nothing to see his way into law.

f you want to be upset that a doctor who has helped millions made a few bucks, hey it is your choice. But it won't bother me.

And if you feel I am coming at you, far from it. Just posting my opinion on a post that I feel was a little out of left field.

I am curious though on how meditation and love should have been added, or could have been added to his program. And by adding love, well, ca you clarify that?

It is hard to say that Dr Atkins did not do a lot of what he did out of love for others. If he didn't care about others he could have just said screw it, and walked away from all the controversy and kept his diet secrets to himself and family.

I do not claim to dislike many people, or hate. But I would think it ironic if Ornish was swallowed by a really big fish. And a little bit funy.........

serrelind
Wed, Mar-08-06, 14:25
Whole grains are good for you; the "traditional Asian diet" is good for you, therefore the "traditional Asian diet" has whole grains. It's quite logical.

LOL!

Makes so much sense!

Hellistile
Wed, Mar-08-06, 15:57
Time will absolve Dr. Atkins and condemn Dr. Ornish. It is unfortunate that Dr. Atkins had to endure so many years of persecution because no one picked on any of the other low-carb advocates as much as they did Dr. Atkins. The money he made was a bonus but it can't make up for the years of stress, badgering, character assassination, public scrutiny, condemnation he must have endured on a daily basis. I can't imagine how he did it.

mrfreddy
Wed, Mar-08-06, 16:17
Time will absolve Dr. Atkins and condemn Dr. Ornish. It is unfortunate that Dr. Atkins had to endure so many years of persecution because no one picked on any of the other low-carb advocates as much as they did Dr. Atkins. The money he made was a bonus but it can't make up for the years of stress, badgering, character assassination, public scrutiny, condemnation he must have endured on a daily basis. I can't imagine how he did it.

I think I read somewhere that Dr. Atkins had a kind of combative personality, that he actually liked being the rogue outsider fighting the powers that be. Maybe he was happy in that role.

LC FP
Wed, Mar-08-06, 16:47
Dr. Atkins had a kind of combative personality

He would have never made it if he hadn't.

Nancy LC
Wed, Mar-08-06, 17:04
When I saw the Atkins interview on Larry King I thought he was just a pussy cat. He really just seemed like the sweetest guy... and not artificially sweetened either!

kwikdriver
Wed, Mar-08-06, 17:14
I think I read somewhere that Dr. Atkins had a kind of combative personality, that he actually liked being the rogue outsider fighting the powers that be. Maybe he was happy in that role.

On the one hand, had he not been iconoclastic he never would have looked in directions other people weren't looking. On the other hand, had he been a smoother operator, perhaps his dietary approach wouldn't have been marginalized as it has been. You have people like Agatston or whatever his name is who has taken the Atkins diet, but hooked up with corporations, put together a slick marketing plan, knuckled under to the low fat mantra, and created the South Beach Diet, and he doesn't suffer nearly the grief Atkins did. So Atkins' legacy, now, is a mixed bag. Personally, I think Ornish is nuts and Agatston is a greedy opportunist who plays to suckers, but both are slick enough to make it work for them -- they are considered mainstream, while Atkins is controversial and dangerous.

Atkins financially did great, but I think he had an opportunity to make a bigger impact than even the one he made, and was never able to fully seize it.