Calling all Vegetarian Low Carbers!!

[Vegetarian]

Hi!

I am vegetarian. I was wondering if there are any other vegetarian low carbers out there. :)

I thought maybe we could start a support group or club for vegetarians. I have some information that I could share with you, and anything you could share with me would be wonderful.

I can eat eggs, cheeze, dairy, but no meat, chicken or fish.

Rajinder

[tamarian]

Hi Rajinder,

I'm not a vegetarian, but as many have dropped by and had no place of their own, we now create this sub-forum to support vegetarian low-carbers. :)

Wa'il

[eleanor]

HI!

I'm so glad to see someone interested in vegetarian low carbing. I really love vegetarian cooking and eating, I do eat meat but I don't really like it all that much. I would love to hear your suggestions and information. I bet there are more of us out there too.

Eleanor

[Victoria]

Have you ever tried the Morning Star Vegie Grillers? They are 15 grams protein and only 3 grams carbs...I had one this morning. I eat more meat now that I am low carbing. But before I used to eat more vegetarian meals. I think you could do it with eggs and cheeses and such. I use tofu quite a bit. Let me know how you do it--I have alot of vegetarian friends that would be interested. ;) Victoria

[Vegetarian]

Hi Victoria and Eleanor,

Thank you for replying. Sorry I took so long to reply. Got busy with my kids!

Here are some links I found on the web:

http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb/

http://www.culinarycafe.com/Vegetarian.html

http://www.geocities.com/msweathe/veggie.html

I am looking for ways to eat vegetarian low carb at induction.

I hope this information helps!

Rajinder :)

[pamlose130]

I too am a vegetarian looking for low carb information. The support and interaction would be great. My daughter has PCOS and is insuling resistant. We just bought the Insulin Resistant Diet and it is a low carb diet. It has more vegetarian info than most I have read. Look forward to sharing information. Blessings, Pam :D

[fine]

I too, am a veggi low carber and would welcome any ideas, tips and hints

go for it.

Fine :)

[Cali]

I've been an on and off vegetarian for year and I now buy only organic free range meat and other products.

I have a lot of trouble with the meat, for one, I don't like it much, it makes me feel nauseous and two, I'm basically against it ethically.

So if I could find a way to do Atkins, including induction without meat, I'd feel better physically and intellectually.

I can handle tuna and chicken but no red meat.

Tofu is delicious but it has quite a few carbs if it is the main meal..Cheese is yummy but it can hinder weight loss.

Atkins suggests that if you are a a vegetarian then this probably isn't the program for you!

It would be great if we could come up with some varied and yummy ways to do this without chopping up baby animals

[Katya789]

I'm a vegitarian low carber!!

I've been a vegitarian for about 10 years... and a low carber for about 10 days. :p

I'm not going for the textbook ketosis or even rapid weightloss.

I reasoned that all the sugar and refined grains were doing me no good and that additionally, I am probably not eating enough protein.

So my self-styled plan is as follows...

5 meals a day... times of which are dictated by hunger..
No refined grains or added sugars.
Whole fruit is ok... but no more fruit juice or dried fruit.
Protein at every meal...

So we'll see how it goes... i'm keeping a journal of my food and exercise habits here...

Good luck to everyone :wave:

[rhubarb]

Hi, Everyone

I'm new to the site, returned to low carbing, and a veggie from way back – nearly 20 years. (see my intro in the Intro Section (http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35705))

I’m really enjoying this site so far, but I wish there was a little more activity in both this section and the “zone” section. I think the Atkins way of eating may not translate well to vegetarians from what I know of it, and it seems to the program of choice for many folks here.

So, yes – I’m all for revving up this vegetarian forum! Looking forward to seeing you all here …

Rhubarb
[a.k.a. Barbara]

[scg]

Hi! I'm glad to see that there are a few other veggie low carbers out there! I was begining to think that I was the only one :)
I starting trying to go low carb about a week ago...before that I practically lived on pasta. I really miss it...
I don't see any practical way to do Atkins as a vegetarian (there's no way I could go as low as 20 grams of carb a day without meat, and I don't like the restriction on veggies) so I've being trying to do the Zone diet. Has anyone read the Soy Zone? It's interesting...but I dont think I will be able to eat tofu three meals a day for the rest of my life! So I'm still trying to figure out how to make this work for me....I think in the end I will just try to eliminate pasta and white bread and sugar, and eat lots of veggies. Beans, I know, are high in carbs but I think they are health, esp black beans, so I'm going to keep on eating those...

hey rhubarb, you mentioned that you've tried lowcarb before. Were you doing the zone then? How easy/hard did you find it for vegetarians?

Hope everyone will come by often!
Suzy

[rhubarb]

Hi, Suzy (and all)

Yes, I was doing the Zone when I LCed the last time. There are limitations for vegetarians, but that’s not why I fell off the wagon! I think it was pure laziness on my part – it does take a lot of planning and perseverance whether you eat meat or not, but it’s worth it.

Your idea to eliminate pasta, white bread and sugar is a good one. The last time I “Zoned” there was a website just for vegetarian zoning that seems to have disappeared, unfortunately. The author of this site recommended that foods like beans and legumes -- long used as protein staples by vegetarians – continue to be counted as proteins, even though the Zone would have you count them as carbs. I’m undecided; I’ll probably count them as carbs for at least the first few months and then try to see if anything needs adjusting. ('cept for peanut butter -- that's a fat in my book!)

Best --
Rhu

[fine]

Hi there fellow veggies....
I too am one and on the Atkins WOE, I am currently between 20 and 25g of carbs a day. I am unsure as to whether you can purchase meat alternatives out in the States, for I buy the Quorn products here (UK) and they are relatively low in carbs. For bacon there is a product called "Morning Star or Morning Life" (I can't remember which one it is called) which is for 2 rashers only 0.25g carbs. The Quorn range varies from sausages (3g carbs each), minced (0.5g carbs per 100g), fillets and pieces, they can also can come in a sauce but I lay off those - too high in carbs! I use the fillets as meat eaters would chicken or steak. One fillet - 2.5g carbs but which I know can be a lot, but worth it cos I have lost 15lbs since mid January 2002. Hang in there and good luck in LCing the veggie way!
Fine :daizy:

[calli3]

Glad to see I'm not alone :) in my quest to remain vegetarian but low carb. I am new here and doing a lot of reading on the subject, I tried Atkins in my meat eating days but now am trying to develop a lifestyle that works for me! I eat dairy but no eggs. I love vegetables and am trying to devise new recipes that will enable me to lose weight but not get bored with my food choices. Carbs have played a big part of my food intake since I stopped eating meat so I'm feeling like eating has become a big challenge. I have tried the Morning Star products and for the most part they are pretty good. I love vegetables and cheeses but the dairy I really think keeps my weight on. I have a goal of 60 pounds to lose so before I just dive into this I want to be well informed so I don't set myself up to fail again.

[mctrish]

Hi to all of you! I have been vegetarian for 11 years and on Atkins for nearly 3 years. Before, I ate beans and cheese on tortillas every day! I missed that for a while but I heat up cheese in the microwave, top it with avocado and salsa, even sour cream and voila! It is do-able!
There are many many vegetarian products out there but you have to read the labels. Morning Star IS the best and lowest carb plus they are so yummy. Even the non-vegetarians love them. I buy 4 boxes of the burgers a week and they are gone in no time. I heat it up and top it with munster and american cheese! Also, there is a product called Light Life who makes hot dogs for 2 grams and Italian sausage for 4 grams. Again, the meat eaters in my family eat them before I can!
Keep the faith and your health and the health of all the non-killed animals! God willing, we can all do it!

[rhubarb]

I'm glad to see some low carb veggie action -- I hadn't checked or posted here in a while, since "low carb vegetarian" seemed like an oxymoron to many on the rest of the board.

Since last visiting here, I transitioned from the Zone WOE to Atkins, and I have to say it’s much easier as a veggie. Only problem for me (as some of you may remember) is that the meat substitutes are very high in sodium – something I need to watch.

mctrish, please share with me exactly how you melt cheese into chip-like things to pile on the salsa and stuff. I’ve tried it in the frying pan with mixed results. What kind of cheese do you use, how long to heat, cool, etc?

Best to all
Rhu

[adnil53]

I'm not new to LC or vegetarian, but I am to LC AND vegetarian! I just switched to a LC lacto-Ova vegetarian WOE. I'm enjoying it tremendously! Oh, I missed my beans, but now if I'm careful I can add them sometimes!! YUMMY.

mctrish... yes, how do you melt cheese into chip-like things to pile on the salsa and stuff? Enquiring minds wants to know... hummmm? It sounds very good!

My favorite vegetarian product is Boca Burgers. When I first tasted them I thought how much BETTER they tasted than meat! Not many carbs either.

I'm so pleased to see so many vegetarian LCer's :thup: :hyper: :cheer:

Here is a sample of my menu. I just upped the calories, but basicly this IS how I eat. If you'll notice I only get 23 ecc. [effective carb count] I normally only eat about 1/2 this amount, but thought upping the calories would help me... will have to see. I am always tweating [messing with] my WOE, trying to get it were I want it... :lol:

BREAKFAST
Omelette made with
2 eggs
3 oz cheese
MID-MORNING
Dice and mix together for salad;
1 oz cheese
1.5 oz tofu
1 oz walnuts
2 hard boiled eggs
2Tbs mayonaise
LUNCH
8 Brussels Sprouts
1.5 oz tofu
3 oz cheese melted over the tofu and sprouts
MID-AFTERNOON
2 oz cheese
2 eggs
DINNER
Casserole made with [maybe like a quiche];
3 oz cheese
2 eggs
1 cup spinach
½ cup soybeans
1 oz walnuts
Very the type of Cheese, nuts and veggies.

Fitday's Food Values:
Calories: 2314
Fat: 179 - 71%
Carbs: 43 - 4%
Fiber: 20 :thup:
Protein: 142 - 25% :thup:
Ecc: 23 :thup:

[rhubarb]

Linda –

I came up with a pretty good system for making chips from cheese over the weekend. Here it is:

Start with an ounce slice of cheese that’s about ¼” thick and cut that in half. Place the half ounce on a flat plate – not plastic – in the micro, and microwave for one minute. Remove from the micro and peel the cheese from the plate with a spatula or pancake flipper, working the edges up first, and getting to the middle part last. Let cool. (It’s worth mentioning that the plate gets pretty hot, and I needed to use pot holders for this process.)

I had the best results when making multiple chips by alternating between two plates. I was actually washing one plate with cool water while the other was in use in the micro. This prevented the plate from overheating, and got rid the residue from the last piece of cheese, both of which kept the “chip” from melting out to the edges of the dish, and made it a manageable size for dipping!

Yes, it was quite the “mad scientist” weekend! I tried a lot of methods before I figured out what was working and what wasn’t.

The funniest thing about my pursuit of the perfect “chip” is that I never liked chips and things when I was eating high carb! (If it wasn’t chocolate, I usually didn’t give it a second look.)

Hope this helps …
Rhu

[mctrish]

I was away on vacation so I finally got back on the computer. Sorry for the delay in responding.....I always use the microwave and spray the no-stick spray on the plate. That is important because the cheese sticks really bad without it! I use munster and american and another one, usually swiss. One of each and I top it with a half of an avacado. It melts in about 30 seconds. I all salsa and sour cream, when I have it in the house. It isn't hard or anything but it is good. I will also do this alone or put it on top a veggie burger from Morningstar, the best one of the bunch. I'm sorry it has too much salt, I have low blood pressure so it isn't a concern for me at all, but if you have to watch it, it will be a concern. Good luck!

[adnil53]

Thanks mctrish, can't wait to try them...

Here is a menu that is lower in the cheeses and eggs. I just didn't list the seperate meals. A little less calories too.

1 cup soybeans cooked
1 oz pecans, raw
1 oz sunflower seeds, raw
6 cooked whole eggs
4 oz cheese, natural
3 tbs mayonnaise
6 oz extra-firm tofu
1 tsp butter
1 cup broccoli, chopped frozen [yeilds about ½ cup cooked]
6 asparagus spears, canned

FITDAY TOTALS:
Calories: 2059
Fat: 149 – 71%
Carbs: 44 – 4%
Fiber: 21
Protein: 126 – 25%
Ecc: 23

[mctrish]

I thought that soy beans by themselves were high in carbs? I looked at them at the store and was surprised when tofu is all soy bean and there are no carbs in it??? I like your receipe and will be glad to try it out! Thanks!

[adnil53]

Here is Fitdays totals for 1 cup soybeans cooked, plain... As you can see they have 17 carbs per 1 cup... BUT, the effective carb count is only 7.
Calories: 298
Fat: 15 - 50%
Sat: 2 - 7%
Poly: 9 - 28%
Mono: 3 - 11%
Carbs: 17 - 10%
Fiber: 10 - 0%
Protein: 29 - 41%
Ecc: 7 :thup:

And Nori-Nu extra-firm tofu per 1 slice, about 3 oz.
Calories: 46
Fat: 2 - 31%
Sat: 0 - 5%
Poly: 1 - 18%
Mono: 0 - 6%
Carbs: 2 - 14%
Fiber: 0
Protein: 6 - 55%
Ecc: 2 :thup:

Enjoy :D

[mctrish]

That is the confusing thing about the "effective carbs". I certainly wouldn't know what to do about them nor how to figure that all out. I just try to read and hope that they say the truth on the labels!

[adnil53]

All you do is read the label and then subtract the fiber from the carb count and that gives you the ecc [effective carbohydrate count] Hope that is helpful. Something else you may want to try is www.fitday.com It is a great way to keep track of your food, plan menu's, enter custom food... etc. A lot of other stuff as well. Have a great LC day!!! :wave:

[adnil53]

expain why you should deduct fiber from your carb count... Dietary fiber is made up of complex carbohydrates that humans lack the enzymes to digest. So if you only allow yourself say 20 carbs and you get them from, say, broccoli, [2.5 cups broccoli has 19.73 carbs and 11.31 fiber]... you are not getting 20 grams of carbs, you in reality are only getting something like 9 carbs instead of 20. Just thought I'd made that clear as MUD... :lol: Even Atkins agrees with that these days... :wave:

[mctrish]

It was my birthday last week and my husband wanted to take me to dinner, probably more for him than me! We went for Mexican food and I ordered something that I had forgotten about. It was so good that I made it a few days later and thought I would share it with you.
It is an Atkins Enchilada. I ordered a large plate of shredded lettuce topped with enchilada sauce and lots and lots of cheese, all put under the heat so it was nice and melted. Of course, I splurged and got the sides of avocado and sour cream. When I made it at home, I popped everything, except the avocado and sour cream, in the microwave for at least 3 minutes to get it all bubbly. It was so good that my family wanted some of it.
The enchilada sauce was 3 gr. for 1/4 cup and I tried to keep it right around there. The cheese and lettuce is a big 0 gr. The salsa is 1 gr. per 2 Tbs. The sour cream is like 2 gr. and the avocado might be 3 or 4, depending on how much you use. All in all, a very satisfying meal with very little grams and very vegetarian!
The waiter wasn't too upset about the change of menu and said it looked better than I had described it.

[Scarlet]

Here is another link which some of you may find helpful

http://www.holdthetoast.com/cgi-bin/faqnewz/faqnewz.cgi?config=httfaq&format=faq#httfaq9496098208124faq.




Scarlet

[adnil53]

:( OK, I'm a trader... I'm not doing vegetarian at the moment... I just want to concentrate on getting this weight off... ya'all continue on... :lol: I know vegetarian works with this WOE, I just don't want to worry about it at the moment. I wish you all success... Keep up, keeping on... :)

[adnil53]

I will be going back on the vegetarian WOL in the very near future. I have to work some things out for myself. :wave:

[mctrish]

Thanks for that great site!


Trish

[Sabu138]

I didn't eat meat chicken or fish for over 7 years, but that's how I ended up really needing to go lo-carb. I've done regular Atkins (went back to being omnivorous) since Sept 01, and really, I like the results, but still don't like handling, cooking, shopping for or really thinking about consuming non-veggie stuff. I still loathe knowing that most of the taste in hamburger comes from blood and urine --- oh boy!

So, the holy grail for me will be a successful way to eat veggie and still whoosh once in a while and at least slowly melt off the pudge in the meantime.

I think what I see coming through the messages is that it will take more work (probably more bucks, too, Morningstar ain't cheap) than reg DANDR. Ok. In a few weeks, I'll be ready to read the info already out there and see if I can't do it. I have several veggie friends who are anxious to know the results.

Has anyone used Lumen foods Stonewall Jerque or Heartline meatless meats? I'll have to bug them for a nutrition breakdown - the bulk packages I used to buy in my pre-Atkins days didn't have content - but they were much cheaper.

Sabu :wave:

[rhubarb]

Sabu – your message is one I could have written; I've been a veggie for over 20 years (since age 17, and I'll be 39 in a few weeks.) By the time I was in my late 20s, I realized that all the cheese sandwiches and veggie/cheese casseroles I consumed in college had contributed to my weight problem, even though they seemed like healthy choices at the time.

Now I'm wondering if I'd have more success on Atkins if I added beef and chicken back into my diet (I already eat fish) but handling, cooking, and shopping for meat bothers me, too. (I already do it for my kids.) I can't eat those "fake meats" since I have to watch my sodium, and they're all filled with it.

I'd like to hear from anyone on this thread who has enjoyed some real success with Atkins within a vegetarian lifestyle, and how you've done it. It seems to me that dairy fat should be able to contribute to overall daily fat, protein and calorie totals in the same way meat does, but I just haven't had the results that the carnivores seem to be having!

Thoughts on this anyone?

Barb

[mctrish]

I've been a vegetarian for probably 12 years and on Atkins for 3. I consider anyone eating fish not to be vegetarian. There is a name for people who don't eat beef or chicken but consume fish. There are all types of catagories of people who eat some and not other types of meat. I don't eat meat (fish is meat) because I don't feel it is necessary for my existence to be the cause of another creature's death. You don't kill a cow to get milk. The eggs in the store were never fertilized to be a chicken but I still can't eat them without getting the eebie geebies! I think it has to be an internal thing for you to be a vegetarian and it isn't easy. People harrass me all the time but I don't tell them what to do. I just do what is in my heart. If you really want to do this diet, it can be done vegetarian. I use the MorningStar and LiteLife products. They are about as costly as any other food but I only recently started eating them. I didn't miss the hamburger type foods and didn't want to be reminded of them. But my daughter started getting them and I tried them. It tastes good and is a break from cheese.
I wish everyone good luck and to do the best you can. We are all trying to beat the weight and it can be done if you are diligent. One thing about this is that it has gotten me out of the habit of eating. You can't grab chips or cookies or popcorn. I've learned to do other things and I feel free from the food that has been dominating my life!

[Westgal]

I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for many years...until marriage. Then, I went back to meat-eating (for nearly 10 years).

I have lost and gained many times...always a struggle. I have low-carbed off-and-on for years, but permanent success always eludes me.

In January of this year, I once again stopped eating meat and gained 29 pounds in TWO MONTHS! After all, Twinkies and crackers are NOT animals. :rolleyes: Obviously, I was not low-carbing during that two months.

Health problems, such as high blood pressure which I've never had before, caused me to re-evalutate my eating habits.

Soooo . . . In mid-June, I decided vegan low-carb is the way for me.

So far, I have lost almost 20 pounds in less than two months and feel wonderful! My ccl is around 100g (I established that a long time ago), so I am able to eat lots of fruit and stay in ketosis.

If anyone is interested is how to eat vegan and still stay low-carb, I would love to share!

I'm so happy I've found this forum!

Janet

[mctrish]

Good for you! I love to hear people have success while being vegetarian. It is possible and actually very easy to do while on Atkins. I never have trouble finding anything to eat. Let's keep ourselves motivated!
P.S. A while ago, someone on this site offered a Spinach Fritata receipe that I finally made this evening. I intended it to be my stash for the week by my family thought I was being nice to make something special for them and they loved it! Thanks to whoever sent it!
Trish

[Phade]

katya789 you are doing one simalr to me. mine is baised around wieght lifting and body building asthe protein requirements are really high.

i eat six meals a day 3 of which are nutreant meal shakes, each shake has 42 grams of protein, and 25g of carbs. then i have 3 other meals. i only eat tuna because i want the fish ols in it and the protein. i dont drink milk i drink soy milk now and use veggi cheese instead of real cheese except once and awhile. i alos eat the fake meats too. while my diet still hase carbs they are good ones only complex carbs. its the simple ones that are bad. thogh i would like to decreas them some, but brown rice makes such a good base for many things.

[Phade]

adnil53 so if the only carbs i eat all day are complex ones then im still low carbing then? cause i stopped eat simple carbs all together and now only eat complex ones.

[Phade]

Westgal whats ccl stand for.

[Westgal]

CCL is "critical carbohydrate level" - the point where you go OUT of ketosis. It's an Atkins term.

Janet

[Phade]

how do you know what you ccl is?

[Westgal]

For most, it is the carb-level at which you go out of ketosis. For those who NEVER register positive for ketosis, it can be a bit more tricky, and stopping of weight loss is probably the best indicator, although that isn't always totally accurate.

:o) Janet

[Jericho]

I guess I'm new here, though I posted a few questions earlier this year and then vanished. Anyway I'm back (and with a much snazzier computer). I'm vegetarian for moral reasons and I'll never eat fish, chicken or meat again. (I do dairy though, I'm not vegan). I'm 5' 10" and tonight weigh just over 185, so I don't think I'm terribly obese. But I do need to lose weight, I'd like to get to 165. I've been lazy, that's my problem, but I've started to be a little more active, taking long bike rides and walks. I think most of us are looking for the magic diet that requires no exercise but we have to know that exercise is a big key. When I was in the best shape of my life, after losing about 30 pounds, I was walking everyday, doing 15-20 minutes of exercises at home everynight. And I had cut out all junk food, all fast food. I do want to learn more about the low-carb, high-protein diet but I know that success will only come if I get off my ass occasionally and excercise. Not a really informative post I know, but its now 1 a.m. and I better start thinking about sleep. I'll keep an eye on this forum and add anything I can think of. Anyway, nice meeting you fellow veggies looking to lose weight like me. Ain't it a bitch?

[adnil53]

I have been away for a while. Complex carbs are much better than simple carbs, but depending on your plan, you still have to count the carbs and if you keep them down to what-ever your plan says, yes you are doing low carb... even if you ate simple carbs, if you kept then down to a low level, it would be low carb!

[adnil53]

You don't kill a cow to get milk That is true, well mostly... as far as a chicken goes... a hen will lay that egg, that will just sit there and rot if there was no rooster around, whether there is a rooster or not! Could never make another chicken... Just thought I'd add my two sense worth! :wave:

[adnil53]

Hi there! Glad to see you around again! I was away from the vegetarian section for a bit... thought I would drop in and see what has been going on. I do weight training and I ride my bike 6 miles a day for most days, I really enjoy it!... I think it is important to do some form of exercise. After being a couch potato for most of my adult life, I finally have started... MOVING!!!! Now just to get this weight moving OFF of me again!

[Dec.Angel]

I am so interested in this! I can't stand to eat meat, my husband is definitely a meat-eater so our household can get very stressful at mealtimes. He refuses to eat vegetarian. My son eats either way, he's a growing boy and is hungry all the time!

I've been diagnosed with hypoglycemia so refined and simple carbs are big no-no's for me anyway. I would like to learn more about eating low carb vegetarian. I am allergic to eggs and don't like dairy too much.

Feel free to email me at:
icantthinkofemailname~yahoo.com

Thank you!!

[Kristine]

Whoa, your kitchen will be a busy place if you're cooking both veg and non-veg. :D

If you rule out dairy and eggs, it gets a little tricky. You're pretty much left with nuts and soy as your protein sources. There are a lot of good soy products on the market. Do you like tofu? It's pretty good. TVP is another handy product. It's used as a substitute for ground meat in chili, 'meat'balls, etc. It's dry, lasts a long time, it's easy to work with and it's quite cheap.

Be sure to read the label of vegetarian products, though: many are grain based and high in carbs. :exclm:

Have fun! :)

[Lady J]

Calling all veggies!
Hello my kind of people! I'm a strict veggie and am contimplating beginning a low carb diet - really quite excited!
The more I read the more I realise that all I eat is carbs!
Anyway, which diet do you lot recommend for veggies then?
Which one are you all on?
Atkins?
Protein Power?

HELP!
J

[Marda]

Glad to see this group on the website. I've been having some problems with stomach and colon and decided to try vegan this weekend. "Coincidently" ran into a fellow who told me about Shelley Redford Young's cookbook "Back to the House of Health" You can find her by looking up her name on Splor search. Her husband Robert O Young is a microbiologist and they eat mostly uncooked veggies. I found a veggie wrap by Ezekial at the health food store and filled it with avacodo, onion, sun flower seeds and cucumber. It was delicious and my stomach doesn't hurt. I also noted that they stay away from high carb fruit so this system fits well with the low-carb which controls my blood sugar. They work toward getting the body back to alkaline. It's very interesting. I haven't done any of her recipes yet but plan to as I just got a VitaMix machine and had been doing some blended veggies. I'll post again and let you know how it's working health wise.

[Lady J]

Marda!
Thank you VERY much indeed for your reply. Since then I have been to see a nutritionalist who has advised me further, but your advise is very useful. I will be sure to go away and read the book and go from there. I'll let you know how I get on.

Happy New Year!
J

[Marda]

Lady J - I ordered three books by Robert and Shelley from Amazon.com last night. Am anxious to get them and read more. I'm doing pretty well. Had my glass of green stuff for breakfast again and am armed with celery, soaked almonds and half an apple to get me through till lunch. I am very hopeful that this will help and it is low-carb. Blood sugar is staying stable. And away we go.

[Ratgirl]

I've just started Atkins and haven't eaten meat for 14 years. I started eating fish 7 years ago when I first Low Carbed (whilst I was weight training). I'm hoping this will work well for me this time around. I don't really want to eat much fish but I want to feel well !

So glad I found this forum. :roll:

[adnil53]

Hi... I am back doing vegetarian or most of the time I do. I'm using 'The Soy Zone' I lost 11 pounds this last 6 weeks and 13+ inches... I'm very excited about it! Has anyone tried it?

[madpiano]

Hiya

What is the "Soy Zone" ?

Thanks
Sabine

[adnil53]

Soy Zone is a moderate carb diet by Dr. Sears. He uses soy products in this version of The Zone. He keeps a ratio of Fat 30%, carbs 40% & protein 30%. I think it would be very good for a vegetarian or a vegan... If you stick to the plan and don't go over the amount you should have, you do loose weight.