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Angeline
Tue, Jan-03-06, 09:42
Dr. Eades answered a few questions/comments from his readers. It made for an interesting read. I found this one especially interesting dispelling the good carb / bad carb myth:

Here is the link : http://blog.proteinpower.com/drmike/

Comment: I've read through all the archives on here but really didn't see much addressing the actual carbs in "low-carb" except the passing mention of your typical low-carb fruits. It'd be great to get more insight on the good carbs from time to time and also address the issue of getting enough fiber for a healthy digestive system. Just a couple suggestions.

MRE: Okay, here are my insights. There are no good carbs and bad carbs. Carbs are carbs. They all run up your insulin levels and play havoc with your metabolic system. They are all sugar. Once you accept that, then the question becomes what is my trade off for eating all these metabolically disruptive carbohydrates. If they are packaged as pure sugar, then there is no good trade off. If they are packaged as, say, blackberries then the small amount of carbohydrate is offset by all the antioxidants and other healthful phytochemicals in the blackberries. Same with blueberries, asparagus, tomatoes, and all the rest. It’s a trade off. How much good stuff can I get to make eating the metabolically disruptive carbs worth it.

As far as how much fiber is required for a healthy digestive system, the more I study the situation and think about it, the less fiber I think we need. In fact, if pressed, I would say we don’t “need” any at all. I plan a major post on this very issue early next year.


Comment: I did not see a contact link on your sight so I would like to ask a question here in the comments. I have been debating a guy on another message board on the causes of diabetes. I contend that it is an over-consumption of carbohydrates that is causing the large increase in diagnoses and he is arguing that it is fat consumption and the increase in obesity caused by fat consumption that is causing the increase. I have done a search of the web and can find no human studies that support the theory that fat consumption causes obesity or diabetes. Are there any such studies out there? I found many health sites that make the statement that fat consumption is the cause but they do not site any studies to back up there contentions. As far as non-human studies there is a new one out that I was wondering if you could comment on. Here is the link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051228/hl_nm/diabetes_dc

MRE: Without commenting on this link, which is a news report (and we’ve seen how inaccurate those can be) of a couple of animal studies that have very little relationship to what happens in humans, I can say that at this time most scientists believe that the root cause of insulin resistance and type II diabetes is a defect in the insulin receptor caused by an intracellular accumulation of fat. The question is, what causes the intracellular accumulation of fat? We know that one thing for sure does: fructose. Carbohydrates in the diet cause the liver to produce more VLDL, which in turn leads to increased levels of triglycerides and increased intracellular fat. I would put my money on the theory that overconsumption of carbohydrates, especially fructose, is the culprit.

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[My comment] Interpreting this, you can pretty much say that soft drinks are one of the leading cause of the increase in diabetes. I wonder how far away we are from lawsuits

kebaldwin
Tue, Jan-03-06, 14:46
My findings are:

fiber is unimportant

High glycemic carbs are much worse than low glycemic carbs. I get a huge change in blood pressure from high glycemic carbs. No noticeable change from low glycemic carbs.

You can eat all the fat you want -- and your type 2 diabetes symptoms will disappear.

Your mileage / results may vary.

LC FP
Tue, Jan-03-06, 17:17
Your mileage... may vary.

If you're getting good mileage, I'd guess you have a hybrid (no offense, hybrid), one that burns both fat and carbs.

CindySue48
Tue, Jan-03-06, 20:20
My beliefs:

A carb is a carb and both cause insulin release and will eventually "burn out" your insulin producing ability. Like Dr Mike says, "good" carbs are ones, like berries, broccoli, etc that provide natural vitamins, minerals, anti-oxidants, etc. Artificially enhanced is not good.

We have no need physically for carbs, but many of us have become dependent on them. Everytime I hear someone say "I can't live without my" bread, whatever, I want to scream!!!! If they were talking about beer, or drugs, we'd consider an intervention.

It is carbohydrate intake that causes and worsens heart disease, high bp, "high cholesterol", and a bunch of other things.

There is no need for grains, but they frequently do make things better. The key, if you are going to eat grains, is preparing them properly

Fiber isn't all that important. The only time I ever got in trouble was when I started taking fiber supplements.

Fat is not dangerous, and is in fact, essential for life. Animal fat is what we eveolved on, and that's the best for us.....as long as it's not rancid,

Saturated fat is much more stable than poly and mono unsaturated.....doesn't it make sense to figure they're going to be equally stable/unstable in the body also?

I could go on....but maybe another day. :lol:

LC_Dave
Wed, Jan-04-06, 05:01
Cindy,

When people tell me "oh I can't live without my bread'

and I'm sitting there, the fattest person they have ever seen.

I fell like yelling at them to shut the hell up! If I can live without, because I have to, you can too!

They are the same &&^%$ that then give you crap about being overweight.

I don't like those people!

CindySue48
Wed, Jan-04-06, 18:38
Cindy,

When people tell me "oh I can't live without my bread'

and I'm sitting there, the fattest person they have ever seen.

I fell like yelling at them to shut the hell up! If I can live without, because I have to, you can too!

They are the same &&^%$ that then give you crap about being overweight.

I don't like those people!LOL I just quietly ignore them.