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Samuel
Sat, Dec-31-05, 07:45
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/31/business/31interview.html

Confidence in One Diet Above All

By KEN JAWOROWSKI
Published: December 31, 2005

Linda Huett walked into a Weight Watchers meeting in the early 1980's, hoping to lose weight after the birth of her third child. It worked, and then some: she soon took a job at the company, was promoted to manager and later to a vice president. In 2000, Ms. Huett was named chief executive.

Given Wall Street's predilection for business-school-bred leaders, such a success story is a bit unusual. But investors appear to have faith in the company, which has posted a profit in every quarter since going public in 2001: even as Atkins Nutritionals filed for bankruptcy this summer, shares of Weight Watchers rose more than 20 percent in 2005. Customers evidently have confidence in the company as well - each week, about 1.5 million people attend one of its 46,000 meetings in 30 countries, making it the world's largest operator of weight-loss centers and giving it annual revenue of more than $1 billion.

Ms. Huett spoke recently about the company. Following are excerpts from that conversation:

Q. Do you still go to meetings?

A. Absolutely. I just went to a meeting a couple of weeks ago. I try to go as often as I can. It is what we're about. We are a brand - we're only a brand - our service and our philosophy. So if you think of us more as a group education than as just a diet, you'd probably understand why our meetings are so important.

Q. How do you manage a company that is so spread out?

A. You don't manage an infrastructure that big. What you do is hope that you have very, very talented people who are actually managing the infrastructure on your behalf. We are, though, a very flat organization. We're very close to the ground. I'm very close to our customer. So we really rely on a lot of talented layers between me and what happens in each one of those 46,000 meetings. But what happens in each of those 46,000 meetings is what really makes this company thrive and has kept us in business all these years.

Q. Is the low-carb dieting craze over?

A. I called it a sort of tidal wave at the time. It was really unprecedented how big it came, how fast it came. And then I think, as a tidal wave, it washed its way through and we've come out the other side.

People are looking for solutions and I fully understand that. And because we're more sane, sensible, steady, balanced - it's maybe not as sexy as the latest sort of miracle, if you like. But in a sense we are the place that people ultimately end up, where they want to do something long term. I think that a low-carb regime, like any other regime that's asking you to do something quite extreme, they just are unsustainable. And our research has shown us that for decades.

Q. What percentage of your clients are women?

A. The vast majority. If I'm looking at it worldwide it's about 95 percent. If I'm looking at the U.S. it's probably about 91 percent.

Q. Does the company have any programs aimed at men? That seems like an underserved market.

A. We've done a lot of research in the last few years and we do have programs under development. I don't imagine that we're going to have a meaningful offering until probably the start of 2007.

I think doctors now are much more proactive in talking to their patients and challenging their patients if they do have a weight issue. And I think that this has really woken men up to the fact that this isn't just a vanity issue.

Q. Why should an investor buy your stock?

A. If you look at our track record, for the past six years you can see incredibly strong growth. You'll know that we have a diversified source of that growth in licensing, which has been growing by leaps and bounds. We're doing it very cautiously and carefully. But our brand is that powerful. We have the products that we sell directly to the consumer and we are doing that, obviously, in our meetings, and we have other proprietary distribution methods like our Web site.

We have huge markets to go into. If you're looking at Asia, if you're looking at some of the developing countries and the weight issues they've already got, I just think that we have tremendous growth ahead of us.

Samuel
Sat, Dec-31-05, 07:52
Last thing I heared about WW is that 97% of their customers gain their weights back in 5 years. What a shame!

leslieam
Sat, Dec-31-05, 07:56
Last thing I heared about WW is that 97% of their customers gain their weights back in 5 years. What a shame!

I sure gained mine back, and then some. :agree:

kyrasdad
Sat, Dec-31-05, 07:58
Oh, please.

Weight Watchers succeeds in business because it's difficult to sustain weight loss on it. It's a kind of planned obsolescence, I know many who have tried it, but only one who kept any weight off. All of them complained about being hungry.

I like the concept of meetings, and think Atkins could have taken that page from their book and had some success.

In terms of eating, the WW high carb approach is doomed to failure for most people.

CindySue48
Sat, Dec-31-05, 09:16
Linda Huett walked into a Weight Watchers meeting in the early 1980's, hoping to lose weight after the birth of her third child. It worked, and then some: she soon took a job at the company, was promoted to manager and later to a vice president. In 2000, Ms. Huett was named chief executive.As far as I'm concerned, this is the only way to keep it off!!!! Get a job with the company, which is then tied to your weight!!!! Gain weight = no job....pretty good incentive to me!

BawdyWench
Sun, Jan-01-06, 07:56
They sure do brainwash you. I've never done WW, but several women in my office have. They swear it's the only thing that works for them. Huh? If it works for them, why are they ALL still obese?

Scars
Sun, Jan-01-06, 13:36
Oh, please.

Weight Watchers succeeds in business because it's difficult to sustain weight loss on it. It's a kind of planned obsolescence, I know many who have tried it, but only one who kept any weight off. All of them complained about being hungry.

I like the concept of meetings, and think Atkins could have taken that page from their book and had some success.

In terms of eating, the WW high carb approach is doomed to failure for most people.

Completely agree on all counts. I also believe in the accountability of meetings - dietary changes are only effective if they are sustainable. Meetings, buddy systems, on-line support (such as this one) and the right mindset are all crucial factors to sustained success.

Judynyc
Sun, Jan-01-06, 22:06
WW never worked for me either.......and how come they now have a "Core" plan which is practically South Beach?

They give people a list of foods to choose from, protein and veggies that are free, then give them an amount of points for a week for foods like grains, bread and starch.

Sounds like a controlled carb plan to me!! ;)

stephiewil
Sun, Jan-01-06, 22:25
My mother in law lost forty pounds on it twenty years ago and gained it back and more within ten years and has tried to get back on it a few times and never could. Because she made goal once, she does not have to pay for meetings if she goes back, so that is nice, but if it is not working, what is the point. I could not survive on those little meals for sure. I would be starving all the time.
I think like other things that have come and gone, their days are numbered, too many people have tried it and failed, or lost and gained back. Who wants to spend all that money just to gain it back. I cannot imagine living for the rest of my life on those tiny portions.
I think in the long run, more studies are showing that low carb is best and even though it seems to have gone downhill, I still read new studies all the time promoting less carbs. It is only a matter of time. Stephie :)

FREE2BEME
Tue, Jan-03-06, 06:33
I am still new here, but I wanted to post my experience with WW last year. Actually, I joined right after New Years, spent $120 for a 10 week membership. I had already experienced some success with LC WOL but thought that with this plan I could have fruit and other foods I had been craving after having a high carb holiday season. Anyway, I followed the plan to the letter! I kept a daily journal and everything. I am sad to say that after 8 weeks, I had gained 8 pounds. I thought that I must be the biggest failure. I mean, every one loses weight on WW, right?!! They kept trying to tell me that maybe I wasn't journaling ALL my food intake or maybe wasn't eating enough points. I quit before finishing all my weeks. I figured that I could gain weight for free/on my own and didn't need WW help to accomplish that! I now realize that even though I was staying within my points, I was eating TONS of carbs. I should have known better. Ugh!!!!

deb34
Tue, Jan-03-06, 14:14
i did WW and gained 15lbs in 2 years....

LC_Dave
Wed, Jan-04-06, 04:12
I am a Weight watchers Survivor. I lost 30 kilos (66 pounds) and then gained 95 kilos (209 pounds).
Thanks Weight watchers you bastards!

I was a volunteer 'recorder' dude on the door taking the money.

Don't believe I word they say. I joined and rejoined WW like 20 times. The program never addressed my insulin resistance.

They do brainwash you at every meeting. The leaders are instructed to sell the stuff. Eventually I lost my volunteer job because I was not at goal. I was not happy :( Apparently they don't like 'fat' people being the spokespeople of the company.

The say the door is always open at WW, because it's a revolving door.

I would be amazed at the number of returning 'lifetime members' (members who had reached goal and maintained it for 6 weeks) who would walk sideways through the door - they were so round! They were as big as I am now, and they were the ones who had 'made it!'

The whole 2 years I volunteered at the meetings, I saw one person make it to lifetime member. That's one.

It's the biggest con-job going. It's a business, kinda like a drug dealer, because the system doesn't work so you have all these 'repeat customers'

"OH I lost weight before on WW, it's just me, I don't have any will power blah blah"
This is what people say. I know this, because I used to say it myself.

cyndip
Wed, Jan-04-06, 04:47
I have joined at least 8-10 times in the past 20 years. I have 4 booklets recording my weight,still. I never lost more than 20lbs . it took weeks of meticulous recording and planning. I also feel that it never addressed my insulin resistance . I have been on atkins since oct.05 , I am down 30lbs, I am not hungry. I have energy to go to the gym. I too am a ww survivor,lol. I also did Tops in between. I have been trying to address my eating issues for 20years, this wol is the best I have found, thank you Dr. Atkins. I will not allow those around me counsel me about low fat, high carb lifestyle anymore.

bsheets
Wed, Jan-04-06, 05:51
Hi LC Dave,

Wow, that's a massive gain from WW. I'm one of the luckies I guess - I lost 15kg on WW since umm feb 2004 and gained only 4kg back mid-2005 (which I've since lost on lc). I switched due to hunger, mainly. And I had huge cravings for sweets (a big bonus to lc is reduced cravings :D ). I also craved meat as I went to the gym a lot, but rarely had it because it's so high in points.

If I ever slip up now, and do the "well, I've already messed up today, I may aswell binge the rest of the day" thing, I switch to counting points which stops me from having too much food in general - even if it does give me head spins.

And about the article, I guess from the position of a non-lc'er, you would think the lc "wave" had come in and gone just as fast. But, I don't get why there's so much focus on lc for that when every weight loss plan has a peak and a low.

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CindySue48
Wed, Jan-04-06, 17:48
I also craved meat as I went to the gym a lot, but rarely had it because it's so high in points.
And that is one of the biggest problem with WW!!! Rather than have 5 points of steak, you're expected to have 5 points of pasta/bread/grains!!!

A woman I work with is doing WW....and it's amazing the foods she "can't" eat because of the points! So, instead of and ounce (or even a half ounce) of nuts, she'll have one of those "100 calorie snacks". We go out to lunch at the local pasta joint....I have a chicken caesar salad with the dressing on the side (but eat most of it). She'll have a chicken/veggie/pasta dish and put 1/2 the meat aside for her "next meal". When we get back to work, she'll put the food in the refridgerator, then throw it out a few days later!

And they say low carb is unhealthy? OK, whatever.

ProfGumby
Wed, Jan-04-06, 18:37
Q. Is the low-carb dieting craze over?

A. I called it a sort of tidal wave at the time. It was really unprecedented how big it came, how fast it came. And then I think, as a tidal wave, it washed its way through and we've come out the other side.

People are looking for solutions and I fully understand that. And because we're more sane, sensible, steady, balanced - it's maybe not as sexy as the latest sort of miracle, if you like. But in a sense we are the place that people ultimately end up, where they want to do something long term. I think that a low-carb regime, like any other regime that's asking you to do something quite extreme, they just are unsustainable. And our research has shown us that for decades.

Buwahahahaha! :lol:

Yet she doesn't adress the WW high failure rates, I wonder why?? Oh yea, she'd be out of a job!

Face it, any plan has a high failure rate as people are involved. But WW, unlike many "diets" encourages association through meetings etc, and yet I'd bet the WW failure rate is as high as any other weight loss plan. Again, I wonder why?

Well, not really.......

AZDweller
Wed, Jan-04-06, 18:59
I never tried it. It never made sense to me to pay someone for MY weight problem. But I ate low fat things for years -- kept putting on the weight. My parents put me on a 1,200-calorie diet as a kid -- I was hungry all the time and didn't lose much at all. Fortunately, I never got into drinking meals, so I bypassed liquid protein and Slim Fast.

Said it before -- I'll say it again...this is the only thing that has ever made sense and worked for me, and it's working for my entire family. My DH was at the doctor's today and when the doctor found out he's lost over 50 pounds since Oct. 1 (3 months), he asked when plan, and didn't say a word when he heard Atkins.

Gail