Something to train for?

[Alabaster]

I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to
set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year of
training. This would serve as a focus for my training and a
specific goal to keep me motivated.

The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find
running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually
prefers going for less-traditional options.

The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably
too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe this can be
my 5-year goal.

Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able
to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this
outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am looking
for a combination of strength training, fat loss, and aerobic
stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
determination, etc.)

Any creative ideas?

Thanks, chris.

[Big Bill]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:22:30 -0500, Alabaster
<noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote:

>I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like to
>set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
>spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year of
>training. This would serve as a focus for my training and a
>specific goal to keep me motivated.
>
>The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
>marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find
>running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually
>prefers going for less-traditional options.
>
>The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
>mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably
>too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe this can be
>my 5-year goal.
>
>Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
>myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able
>to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this
>outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am looking
>for a combination of strength training, fat loss, and aerobic
>stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
>determination, etc.)
>
>Any creative ideas?
>
>Thanks, chris.

Martial arts. You sound like you'd be ok with the discipline
and the competitive element is a great incentive. Plus, once
you get a toe-hold (!), you can go in so many directions as
there are so many disciplines to explore.

BB
--
www.kruse.co.uk/ seo@kruse.demon.co.uk The buffalo have gone

[.]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:22:30 -0500, Alabaster
<noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote:

>and my brain
...is totally absent.

[Bully]

Alabaster wrote:
> I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
> to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
> spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year of
> training. This would serve as a focus for my training and a
> specific goal to keep me motivated. The typical go-to answer
> would be to say "I'd like to run a marathon," but I really
> have no desire to do that--I find running boring, it's bad
> on my back, and my brain usually prefers going for
> less-traditional options. The other extreme side of me says
> "I'd like to climb a mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling
> that this is probably too much for me to accomplish in one
> year--maybe this can be my 5-year goal.
>
> Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
> myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able
> to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this
> outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am looking
> for a combination of strength training,
Aim for the 300/400/500 club in 3 years time.

> fat loss, and
Less than 15% bodyfat this year.

> aerobic stamina
Run 5k in 30 mins, or row (Concept 2) 2000m in 7 mins, both
this year.

> (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
> determination, etc.)
>
> Any creative ideas?
>
> Thanks, chris.

--
Bully "Be who you are and say what you feel, because
those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't
mind." - Dr. Seuss

[Goran Toma]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:35:31 -0000, "Bully"
<neil_simpson@spam-me-not_btinternet.com> wrote:
>> aerobic stamina
>row (Concept 2) 2000m in 7 mins, both this year.

7 mins is pretty high goal for a beginner! That's 1:45/500m!
Some people (particularly those who don't pack a lot of mass)
can hardly supersede that in their best-shape, let alone be a
1 year goal for a beginner.

I wouldn't recommend setting a specific time limit on a rower
machine now. The time you achieve largely depends on body
constitution and mass and in comparison to others does not
accurately represent your level of fitness. What you should do
is test yourself for 2000 or 30mins and then try to improve
that time. If you can improve 15 (maybe
20) seconds on your 500m split in a year (that's 1 (1:20) mins
in 2000m race), you'd be doing a great job!

Just understand that you can achieve that much of improvement
only in your first year. Later, your progress will be slower
cause you'll already be in shape.

IMHO rowing (much more enjoyable than in-door rower, btw) is
one of the best sports to get in shape in terms strength,
stamina/fitness and mental focus. Concept2 has a great website
with lots of info... (www.concept2.com)

Regards, Goran Tomas

------------------
"The only stupid question is the one which is never asked. For
enlightenment has been lost."

[Steve Frei]

"Alabaster" <noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote in message
news:cYbgf.74$SA4.5670@news.uswest.net...
> I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
> to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
> spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year of
> training. This would serve as a focus for my training and a
> specific goal to keep me motivated.
>
> The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
> marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find
> running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually
> prefers going for less-traditional options.
>
> The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
> mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably
> too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe this can be
> my 5-year goal.
>
> Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
> myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able
> to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this
> outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am looking
> for a combination of strength training, fat loss, and
> aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
> determination, etc.)
>
> Any creative ideas?

You can't get everything you've listed - "less-traditional",
"big", "strength", "fat loss", "aerobic stamina" and a few
other things, too - all at once.

For "less-traditional", Google "Girevoy Sport" - you won't get
bigger unless you're really scrawny and you certainly won't
get "big" by anyone's standard, but you'll get strong, lean,
mentally +tough, and have plenty of stamina. It's a sport
where you do maximum reps non-stop for 10 minutes, putting one
or two 70 lb. kettlebells overhead by means of a snatch or
jerk. Likewise Google "Dragan Radovic", a guy who puts 40 lb.
dumbbells overhead for seemingly endless reps.

Other strength/endurance hybrids are pretty easy to come up
with, too,
e.g., a 20:00 session of 50 reps of 1.5 time bodyweight in the
deadlift, or 100 reps with bodyweight in the same time.
These sorts of things are "less-traditional" and can get
you a lot of strength and a lot of endurance/stamina at
the same time.

Disclaimer - while I've competed at Girevoy Sport, I've
never done the 50 reps in 20 minutes thing or similar, just
heard about it.

Those are my "creative ideas."

-S- http://www.kbnj.com

[The Queen]

Alabaster <noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote:

> I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
> to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
> spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year of
> training. This would serve as a focus for my training and a
> specific goal to keep me motivated.
>
> The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
> marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find
> running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually
> prefers going for less-traditional options.
>
> The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
> mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably
> too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe this can be
> my 5-year goal.
>
> Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
> myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able
> to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this
> outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am looking
> for a combination of strength training, fat loss, and
> aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
> determination, etc.)
>
> Any creative ideas?

I suggest thinking for yourself. How (and why) do you expect
people who don't know you to set such a personal goal for you?
If you're not even motivated enough to come up with your own
idea, I doubt you're going to have what it takes to achieve
much of anything.

[Franky]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:26:41 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

>You can't get everything you've listed -
>"less-traditional", "big",

Listen to "the tiny ballerina" on the "big" part, he's an
expert on that.

[Bully]

Steve Freides wrote:
> "Alabaster" <noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote in message
> news:cYbgf.74$SA4.5670@news.uswest.net...
>> I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
>> to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
>> spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year
>> of training. This would serve as a focus for my training
>> and a specific goal to keep me motivated.
>>
>> The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
>> marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find
>> running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually
>> prefers going for less-traditional options.
>>
>> The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
>> mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is
>> probably too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe
>> this can be my 5-year goal.
>>
>> Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
>> myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be
>> able to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in
>> this outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am
>> looking for a combination of strength training, fat loss,
>> and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness,
>> focus, determination, etc.)
>>
>> Any creative ideas?
>
> You can't get everything you've listed - "less-traditional",
> "big", "strength", "fat loss", "aerobic stamina" and a few
> other things, too
> - all at once.

Well, ignoring the "less-traditional" I could provide a 5 day
program (3 days weight/2 days aerobic alternated with 2 days
weight/3 days aerobic) which I have used over the last 3-4
years to achieve all of the above.

e.g.Month one: Mon: weights [legs/shoulders] Tue: aerobic
fitness on Concept2 [e.g. 10x250m with 2 mins rest] Wed:
weights [chest/triceps] Thu: weights [back/biceps] Fri:
aerobic fitness on Concept2

Month two: Mon: aerobic fitness on Concept2 Tue:
[legs/chest/triceps] Wed: aerobic fitness on Concept2
Thu: weights [back/shoulders/biceps] Fri: aerobic fitness
on Concept2

>
> For "less-traditional", Google "Girevoy Sport" - you won't
> get bigger unless you're really scrawny and you certainly
> won't get "big" by anyone's standard, but you'll get strong,
> lean, mentally +tough, and have plenty of stamina. It's a
> sport where you do maximum reps non-stop for 10 minutes,
> putting one or two 70 lb. kettlebells overhead by means of a
> snatch or jerk. Likewise Google "Dragan Radovic", a guy who
> puts 40 lb. dumbbells overhead for seemingly endless reps.
> Other strength/endurance hybrids are pretty easy to come up
> with, too,
> e.g., a 20:00 session of 50 reps of 1.5 time bodyweight in
> the deadlift, or 100 reps with bodyweight in the same
> time. These sorts of things are "less-traditional" and
> can get you a lot of strength and a lot of
> endurance/stamina at the same time.
>
> Disclaimer - while I've competed at Girevoy Sport, I've
> never done the 50 reps in 20 minutes thing or similar, just
> heard about it.
>
> Those are my "creative ideas."
>
> -S- http://www.kbnj.com

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind
don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

[John]

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote in
message news:1h6d89d.1gmbt36lvia6N%dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet...
> Alabaster <noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
> > to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
> > spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year
> > of training. This would serve as a focus for my training
> > and a specific goal to keep me motivated.
> >
> > The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run
> > a marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I
> > find running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain
> > usually prefers going for less-traditional
options.
> >
> > The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
> > mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is
> > probably too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe
> > this can be my 5-year goal.
> >
> > Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
> > myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be
> > able to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good
> > in this outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I
> > am looking for a combination of strength training, fat
> > loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental
> > toughness, focus, determination, etc.)
> >
> > Any creative ideas?
>
> I suggest thinking for yourself. How (and why) do you expect
> people who don't know you to set such a personal goal for
> you? If you're not even motivated enough to come up with
> your own idea, I doubt you're going to have what it takes to
> achieve much of anything.

To the original OP: Ignore this whore. She's a troll that
NEVER posts anything worth while.

[Steve Frei]

"Bully" <neil_simpson@spam-me-not_btinternet.com> wrote in
message news:3ue6knF108t9jU1@individual.net...
> Steve Freides wrote:
>> "Alabaster" <noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote in message
>> news:cYbgf.74$SA4.5670@news.uswest.net...
>>> I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
>>> to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
>>> spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year
>>> of training. This would serve as a focus for my training
>>> and a specific goal to keep me motivated.
>>>
>>> The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run
>>> a marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I
>>> find running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain
>>> usually prefers going for less-traditional options.
>>>
>>> The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
>>> mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is
>>> probably too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe
>>> this can be my 5-year goal.
>>>
>>> Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
>>> myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be
>>> able to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good
>>> in this outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I
>>> am looking for a combination of strength training, fat
>>> loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental
>>> toughness, focus, determination, etc.)
>>>
>>> Any creative ideas?
>>
>> You can't get everything you've listed -
>> "less-traditional", "big", "strength", "fat loss", "aerobic
>> stamina" and a few other things, too
>> - all at once.
>
> Well, ignoring the "less-traditional" I could provide a 5
> day program (3 days weight/2 days aerobic alternated with 2
> days weight/3 days aerobic) which I have used over the last
> 3-4 years to achieve all of the above.
>
> e.g.Month one: Mon: weights [legs/shoulders] Tue: aerobic
> fitness on Concept2 [e.g. 10x250m with 2 mins rest] Wed:
> weights [chest/triceps] Thu: weights [back/biceps] Fri:
> aerobic fitness on Concept2
>
> Month two: Mon: aerobic fitness on Concept2 Tue:
> [legs/chest/triceps] Wed: aerobic fitness on Concept2 Thu:
> weights [back/shoulders/biceps] Fri: aerobic fitness on
> Concept2

Are you, like, following me around lately, dude? I mean, like,
it's a little freaky, you know?

And haven't we had the "you can't build muscle and lose fat at
the same time unless you're a newbie" conversation on this
newsgroup many times before? Right after the "no program works
forever" conversation, I think.

-S- http://www.kbnj.com

>> For "less-traditional", Google "Girevoy Sport" - you won't
>> get bigger unless you're really scrawny and you certainly
>> won't get "big" by anyone's standard, but you'll get
>> strong, lean, mentally +tough, and have plenty of stamina.
>> It's a sport where you do maximum reps non-stop for 10
>> minutes, putting one or two 70 lb. kettlebells overhead by
>> means of a snatch or jerk. Likewise Google "Dragan
>> Radovic", a guy who puts 40 lb. dumbbells overhead for
>> seemingly endless reps. Other strength/endurance hybrids
>> are pretty easy to come up with, too,
>> e.g., a 20:00 session of 50 reps of 1.5 time bodyweight in
>> the deadlift, or 100 reps with bodyweight in the same
>> time. These sorts of things are "less-traditional" and
>> can get you a lot of strength and a lot of
>> endurance/stamina at the same time.
>>
>> Disclaimer - while I've competed at Girevoy Sport, I've
>> never done the 50 reps in 20 minutes thing or similar, just
>> heard about it.
>>
>> Those are my "creative ideas."
>>
>> -S- http://www.kbnj.com
>
>
>
> --
> Bully Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk Supps:
> http://www.myprotein.co.uk - 5% off with my discount
> code MP4858
>
> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who
> mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -
> Dr. Seuss

[David]

"John" <y_tu_momma_tambien@hotmail.com> wrote in message news-
:34mgf.141773$zb5.25753@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote
> in message
> news:1h6d89d.1gmbt36lvia6N%dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet...
>> Alabaster <noemail@nofreakingemail.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would
>> > like to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and
>> > perhaps spiritual feat I would like to achieve after
>> > about 1 year of training. This would serve as a focus for
>> > my training and a specific goal to keep me motivated.
>> >
>> > The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run
>> > a marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I
>> > find running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain
>> > usually prefers going for less-traditional
> options.
>> >
>> > The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
>> > mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is
>> > probably too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe
>> > this can be my 5-year goal.
>> >
>> > Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
>> > myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be
>> > able to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good
>> > in this outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I
>> > am looking for a combination of strength training, fat
>> > loss, and aerobic stamina (in addition to mental
>> > toughness, focus, determination, etc.)
>> >
>> > Any creative ideas?
>>
>> I suggest thinking for yourself. How (and why) do you
>> expect people who don't know you to set such a personal
>> goal for you? If you're not even motivated enough to come
>> up with your own idea, I doubt you're going to have what it
>> takes to achieve much of anything.
>
> To the original OP: Ignore this whore. She's a troll that
> NEVER posts anything worth while.
>
To the original OP - I have a creative idea for you. Try
wanking with your left hand.

[Abhi]

dear frd i have go through u r mail and find u can reduce fat
and can come in shape, its not neccessary to do the some
running , and merathon but u can just fine out u r energy
intake and expenditure . means balance in calory intake and
out put wil help u to reduce the fate.

u r piyush

note; send u r diet and routine chart Alabaster wrote
> I'm 26, male. I am looking to get in shape, and would like
> to set a specific goal for a physical, mental, and perhaps
> spiritual feat I would like to achieve after about 1 year of
> training. This would serve as a focus for my training and a
> specific goal to keep me motivated.
>
> The typical go-to answer would be to say "I'd like to run a
> marathon," but I really have no desire to do that--I find
> running boring, it's bad on my back, and my brain usually
> prefers going for less-traditional options.
>
> The other extreme side of me says "I'd like to climb a
> mountain." Maybe, but I have a feeling that this is probably
> too much for me to accomplish in one year--maybe this can be
> my 5-year goal.
>
> Any advice or ideas for a creative goal I could set for
> myself? I'd like it to be big, not just "I'd like to be able
> to lift this many pounds" or "I'd like to look good in this
> outfit" or "I'd like to win this competition." I am looking
> for a combination of strength training, fat loss, and
> aerobic stamina (in addition to mental toughness, focus,
> determination, etc.)
>
> Any creative ideas?
>
> Thanks, chris.