Slightly OT: Whey's benefits beyond protein supplementation

[Brian Link]

Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have decent
advice, and when I present the results here I routinely get
called out by smarter folks. So I obviously haven't found the
touchstone resources yet.

So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
supplementation for people not necessarily looking for protein
boosts. Some claims that I've read include: increased brain
function, boosted immune systems, liver rejuvenation, mood
stabilization, etc.

Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits of
whey supplementation?

Thanks

BLink

[David Cohe]

"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
> particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have
> decent advice, and when I present the results here I
> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>
> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>
> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits of
> whey supplementation?

http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODING=-
UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=-
0&QUERY=whey

http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html

David

[Jmw]

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
>> particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have
>> decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>
>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>
>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>> of whey supplementation?
>
>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODING-
>=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WG-
>T=0&QUERY=whey
>
>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html

However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
upregulate the expression of Republican genes in certain
mid-brain neurons, thereby causing a substantial increase in
intelligence but reducing one's ability to react hysterically
to public policy issues. Brian might find such side effects to
be psychologically challenging.

[Brian Link]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:54 GMT, "David Cohen"
<sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
>> particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have
>> decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>
>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>
>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>> of whey supplementation?
>
>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODING-
>=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WG-
>T=0&QUERY=whey
>
>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>
>David
>

Thanks David.

BLink

[.]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:14:21 -0500, JMW
<jmw@event.horizon> wrote:

>>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>>> Since I'm still a noob

You're right, you are a knob...

[Brian Link]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:14:21 -0500, JMW
<jmw@event.horizon> wrote:

>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>
>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>
>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>>> of whey supplementation?
>>
>>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODIN-
>>G=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_-
>>WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>>
>>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>
>However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
>some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
>upregulate the expression of Republican genes in certain
>mid-brain neurons, thereby causing a substantial increase in
>intelligence but reducing one's ability to react hysterically
>to public policy issues. Brian might find such side effects
>to be psychologically challenging.

Yes, I'm familiar with these studies. However, you seem to be
reading them inaccurately, since they all stem from the
seminal article "Consumption of Whey Protein coupled with
Sniffing Airplane Glue and Living in a Trailer Park and Voting
for Corrupt Lying Bastards due to Xenophobia and Fear of
Fictional Islamic Cave-Dwellers", which has proven to have
several serious statistical flaws, owing to the control
group's ingestion of rye ergot.

An honest mistake.

BLink

[Brian Link]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:34:42 -0600, Brian Link
<blink@visi.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:14:21 -0500, JMW
><jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
>
>>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>>>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>>>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>>
>>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>>>> of whey supplementation?
>>>
>>>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODI-
>>>NG=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AG-
>>>E_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>>>
>>>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>>
>>However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
>>some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
>>upregulate the expression of Republican genes in certain
>>mid-brain neurons, thereby causing a substantial increase in
>>intelligence but reducing one's ability to react
>>hysterically to public policy issues. Brian might find such
>>side effects to be psychologically challenging.
>
>Yes, I'm familiar with these studies. However, you seem to be
>reading them inaccurately, since they all stem from the
>seminal article "Consumption of Whey Protein coupled with
>Sniffing Airplane Glue and Living in a Trailer Park and
>Voting for Corrupt Lying Bastards due to Xenophobia and Fear
>of Fictional Islamic Cave-Dwellers", which has proven to have
>several serious statistical flaws, owing to the control
>group's ingestion of rye ergot.
>
>An honest mistake.
>
>BLink

Also, see "An Etymological Disaster: Evolution of 'Heckuva
Job' to 'Incompetent Crony'" and "Attribution of Genius to
Serial Failure by Disgraced Former Supreme Court Nominee" in
"Psychological Anomalies Journal".

Happy reading.

BLink

[Steve Frei]

"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote in message
news:d38bm154ce30bdfuialmc4of1ban0vp5r1@4ax.com...
> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
> particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have
> decent advice, and when I present the results here I
> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>
> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>
> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits of
> whey supplementation?

Not a direct answer to your question, bu Dan Duchaine book,
"BodyOpus," goes so far as to say whey is better than meat,
fowl, or fish for you overall. It's a fun read if you haven't
seen it already, even if you're not a bodybuilder. It's one of
those "not for me but I'd like to know what it says, anyway"
books that I'd always wanted to read but had never gotten
around to, but I picked up a copy and started last week and am
somewhere in the middle now.

-S- http://www.kbnj.com

[David Cohe]

"JMW" <jmw@event.horizon> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>
>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>
>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>>> of whey supplementation?
>>
>>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODIN-
>>G=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_-
>>WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>>
>>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>
> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
> some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
> upregulate the expression of Republican genes in certain
> mid-brain neurons, thereby causing a substantial increase in
> intelligence but reducing one's ability to react
> hysterically to public policy issues. Brian might find such
> side effects to be psychologically challenging.

So, the sound of the words "Supreme Court Justice Samuel
Alito" would be easier for Brian while taking whey protein?
Oh, that would be good.

David

[Willbrink]

In article <cplbm1h41qfesm18f8qca2hh4utdtepkvg@4ax.com>, Brian
Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:54 GMT, "David Cohen"
> <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
> >> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
> >> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
> >> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
> >> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
> >>
> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
> >> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
> >> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
> >> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
> >>
> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
> >> of whey supplementation?
> >
> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODI-
> >NG=UTF-8&CFGNAME=Ms
> >sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
> >
> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
> >
> >David
> >
>
> Thanks David.

All this time you have been posting here, you should have
known that.

>
> BLink

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

[Willbrink]

In article <jmgbm1dmgua89f6ddap6qgusunjvefj3ef@4ax.com>, JMW
<jmw@event.horizon> wrote:

> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
> >> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
> >> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
> >> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
> >> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
> >>
> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
> >> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
> >> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
> >> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
> >>
> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
> >> of whey supplementation?
> >
> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODI-
> >NG=UTF-8&CFGNAME=Ms
> >sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
> >
> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>
> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
> some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
> upregulate the expression of Republican genes

Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world wide.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

[David Cohe]

"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>> >> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>> >> have decent advice, and when I present the results here
>> >> I routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I
>> >> obviously haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>> >>
>> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>> >> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>> >> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>> >> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
>> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
>> >
>> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCOD-
>> >ING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=Ms
>> >sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>> >
>> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>>
>> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
>> some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
>> upregulate the expression of Republican genes
>
> Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world wide.

Increased whey = an increase in law abiding citizens
purchasing high quality weapons.

I hope Kimber can keep up with the demand.

David

[Jmw]

Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:34:42 -0600, Brian Link
><blink@visi.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:14:21 -0500, JMW
>><jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
>>
>>>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>>>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here
>>>>> I routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I
>>>>> obviously haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
>>>>> benefits of whey supplementation?
>>>>
>>>>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCOD-
>>>>ING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&-
>>>>AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>>>>
>>>>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>>>
>>>However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
>>>some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
>>>upregulate the expression of Republican genes in certain
>>>mid-brain neurons, thereby causing a substantial increase
>>>in intelligence but reducing one's ability to react
>>>hysterically to public policy issues. Brian might find such
>>>side effects to be psychologically challenging.
>>
>>Yes, I'm familiar with these studies. However, you seem to
>>be reading them inaccurately, since they all stem from the
>>seminal article "Consumption of Whey Protein coupled with
>>Sniffing Airplane Glue and Living in a Trailer Park and
>>Voting for Corrupt Lying Bastards due to Xenophobia and Fear
>>of Fictional Islamic Cave-Dwellers", which has proven to
>>have several serious statistical flaws, owing to the control
>>group's ingestion of rye ergot.

Actually, the statistical errors were due to the miniscule
sample sizes of Republicans amongst populations of glue
sniffers and trailer park dwellers. The confounding factor of
ergotamine consumption was due to residual contamination of
household glassware used by glue-sniffing,
trailer-park-dwelling liberals for hallucinogen production.

>Also, see "An Etymological Disaster: Evolution of 'Heckuva
>Job' to 'Incompetent Crony'" and "Attribution of Genius to
>Serial Failure by Disgraced Former Supreme Court Nominee" in
>"Psychological Anomalies Journal".

You need to keep up on our recent research, Brian:

Williams J. The effect of natural disasters on yellow dog
(canis liberalis) feeding frenzies. J Autonom Reflex Lib Pol.
2005 Oct 31;4(5):480-84.

Williams J, Cohen D. Behavioral responses of the common
barking moonbat (moonbatis Americanus) to a bait-and-switch
protocol. J Autonom Reflex Lib Pol. 2005 Oct 31;4(5):485-90.

[Willbrink]

In article
<lQr9f.1980$8c5.562@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "David
Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> > JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
> >> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
> >> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> >> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
> >> >> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
> >> >> have decent advice, and when I present the results
> >> >> here I routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I
> >> >> obviously haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> >> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
> >> >> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
> >> >> increased brain function, boosted immune systems,
> >> >> liver rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
> >> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
> >> >
> >> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENC-
> >> >ODING=UTF-8&CFGNAME =Ms sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT-
> >> >_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
> >> >
> >> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
> >>
> >> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported
> >> in some recent studies that consumption of whey protein
> >> may upregulate the expression of Republican genes
> >
> > Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world wide.
>
> Increased whey = an increase in law abiding citizens
> purchasing high quality weapons.
>
> I hope Kimber can keep up with the demand.

What about a Kimber Whey product?

>
> David
>
>

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

[David Cohe]

"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
>> > JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
>> >> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>> >> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> >> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense
>> >> >> of this particular topic. I still read mags which
>> >> >> seem to have decent advice, and when I present the
>> >> >> results here I routinely get called out by smarter
>> >> >> folks. So I obviously haven't found the touchstone
>> >> >> resources yet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> >> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking
>> >> >> for protein boosts. Some claims that I've read
>> >> >> include: increased brain function, boosted immune
>> >> >> systems, liver rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
>> >> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
>> >> >
>> >> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_EN-
>> >> >CODING=UTF-8&CFGNAME =Ms sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&C-
>> >> >AT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>> >>
>> >> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported
>> >> in some recent studies that consumption of whey protein
>> >> may upregulate the expression of Republican genes
>> >
>> > Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world wide.
>>
>> Increased whey = an increase in law abiding citizens
>> purchasing high quality weapons.
>>
>> I hope Kimber can keep up with the demand.
>
> What about a Kimber Whey product?

Oooo, crossover products! Marketing genius.

I want Al Mar multivitamins and Smith & Wesson super
premium dog food.

I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom knife.
It will be ready for delivery some time in 2010. With that
kind of backlog, they might crossover with Seecamp :(

David

[Willbrink]

In article
<xNs9f.4038$Rl1.3750@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "David
Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> >> > JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
> >> >> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
> >> >> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> >> >> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense
> >> >> >> of this particular topic. I still read mags which
> >> >> >> seem to have decent advice, and when I present the
> >> >> >> results here I routinely get called out by smarter
> >> >> >> folks. So I obviously haven't found the touchstone
> >> >> >> resources yet.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> >> >> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking
> >> >> >> for protein boosts. Some claims that I've read
> >> >> >> include: increased brain function, boosted immune
> >> >> >> systems, liver rejuvenation, mood stabilization,
> >> >> >> etc.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
> >> >> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_-
> >> >> >ENCODING=UTF-8&CFGN AME =Ms sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_D-
> >> >> >L=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
> >> >>
> >> >> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been
> >> >> reported in some recent studies that consumption of
> >> >> whey protein may upregulate the expression of
> >> >> Republican genes
> >> >
> >> > Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world wide.
> >>
> >> Increased whey = an increase in law abiding citizens
> >> purchasing high quality weapons.
> >>
> >> I hope Kimber can keep up with the demand.
> >
> > What about a Kimber Whey product?
>
> Oooo, crossover products! Marketing genius.

That's why they pay me the big bucks!

>
> I want Al Mar multivitamins and Smith & Wesson super premium
> dog food.
>
> I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom knife.
> It will be ready for delivery some time in 2010. With that
> kind of backlog, they might crossover with Seecamp :(

You might want to get your $$$ back. I little known knife
maker right by you actually makes perhaps the best knives
around with faster turn around. See:
http://www.tridentknives.com/

I have:

http://www.tridentknives.com/oberland_03_custom-knife.htm

There is nothing tougher then these Trident knives. BTW, I
just sent my Scandium SnW 1911 to Novak's to have a kart
barrel and matched bushing and other stuff done. Can't wait to
get it back....

>
> David
>
>

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

[David Cohe]

"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
>> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
>> >> > JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
>> >> >> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> >> >> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better
>> >> >> >> sense of this particular topic. I still read mags
>> >> >> >> which seem to have decent advice, and when I
>> >> >> >> present the results here I routinely get called
>> >> >> >> out by smarter folks. So I obviously haven't found
>> >> >> >> the touchstone resources yet.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> >> >> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking
>> >> >> >> for protein boosts. Some claims that I've read
>> >> >> >> include: increased brain function, boosted immune
>> >> >> >> systems, liver rejuvenation, mood stabilization,
>> >> >> >> etc.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
>> >> >> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY-
>> >> >> >_ENCODING=UTF-8&CFGN AME =Ms sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO-
>> >> >> >_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been
>> >> >> reported in some recent studies that consumption of
>> >> >> whey protein may upregulate the expression of
>> >> >> Republican genes
>> >> >
>> >> > Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world wide.
>> >>
>> >> Increased whey = an increase in law abiding citizens
>> >> purchasing high quality weapons.
>> >>
>> >> I hope Kimber can keep up with the demand.
>> >
>> > What about a Kimber Whey product?
>>
>> Oooo, crossover products! Marketing genius.
>
> That's why they pay me the big bucks!
>
>> I want Al Mar multivitamins and Smith & Wesson super
>> premium dog food.
>>
>> I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom
>> knife. It will be ready for delivery some time in 2010.
>> With that kind of backlog, they might crossover with
>> Seecamp :(
>
> You might want to get your $$$ back. I little known knife
> maker right by you actually makes perhaps the best knives
> around with faster turn around. See:
> http://www.tridentknives.com/

I am buying the Randall for it's
historic/collection/investment value.

> I have:
>
> http://www.tridentknives.com/oberland_03_custom-knife.htm

Nice, but, there are plenty of tough hard use knives around.
I'd put my Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie up against any bowie,
my Al Mar SERE 2000 against any folder, and my in-the-mail Al
Mar Limited Edition Shiva against any 5-6 inch fixed blade.

> There is nothing tougher then these Trident knives. BTW, I
> just sent my Scandium SnW 1911 to Novak's to have a kart
> barrel and matched bushing and other stuff done. Can't wait
> to get it back....

Gee, I'm sorry, you had to have work done on it, huh? Shame
they couldn't get it working well right off. Try a Kimber
next time :)

David

[Dz]

Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
> particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have
> decent advice, and when I present the results here I
> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>
> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>
> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits of
> whey supplementation?

I'm just curious - did you manage to quit smoking?

DZ

[Brian Link]

On 01 Nov 2005 06:42:57 GMT, DZ
<3713@286513591.1275725269.16325.10182.22574> wrote:

>Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of this
>> particular topic. I still read mags which seem to have
>> decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>
>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>
>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>> of whey supplementation?
>
>
>I'm just curious - did you manage to quit smoking?
>
>DZ

Nope.

BLink

[Earlie]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 01:09:59 -0600, Brian Link
<blink@visi.com> wrote:

>
>Nope.

Pussy.

[Dz]

Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
> DZ wrote:
>>Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>
>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>
>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>>> of whey supplementation?
>>
>>
>>I'm just curious - did you manage to quit smoking?
>
> Nope.

I was just thinking that maybe all the benefits of whey are
quite minuscule compared to benefits of not smoking. More
importantly, though, I really can't comprehend how a
countertenor can smoke at all. I mean, wouldn't smoking make
the voice of a countertenor less ... uhm ... sparky?

I don't think for example this dude is a smoker!!! -

http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=011569-
701070706900&cid=600111

(he may not be lifting weights either I suppose)

[Willbrink]

In article
<vgw9f.2072$8c5.311@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "David
Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> >> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> >> >> > JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
> >> >> >> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
> >> >> >> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting
> >> >> >> >> and supplements, I've been trying to get a
> >> >> >> >> better sense of this particular topic. I still
> >> >> >> >> read mags which seem to have decent advice, and
> >> >> >> >> when I present the results here I routinely get
> >> >> >> >> called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
> >> >> >> >> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of
> >> >> >> >> Whey supplementation for people not necessarily
> >> >> >> >> looking for protein boosts. Some claims that
> >> >> >> >> I've read include: increased brain function,
> >> >> >> >> boosted immune systems, liver rejuvenation, mood
> >> >> >> >> stabilization, etc.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
> >> >> >> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUE-
> >> >> >> >RY_ENCODING=UTF-8&C FGN AME =Ms sFind.cfg&ALLCATS-
> >> >> >> >=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> However, Brian should be cautious. It has been
> >> >> >> reported in some recent studies that consumption of
> >> >> >> whey protein may upregulate the expression of
> >> >> >> Republican genes
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Increased whey = an increase in gun sales world
> >> >> > wide.
> >> >>
> >> >> Increased whey = an increase in law abiding citizens
> >> >> purchasing high quality weapons.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope Kimber can keep up with the demand.
> >> >
> >> > What about a Kimber Whey product?
> >>
> >> Oooo, crossover products! Marketing genius.
> >
> > That's why they pay me the big bucks!
> >
> >> I want Al Mar multivitamins and Smith & Wesson super
> >> premium dog food.
> >>
> >> I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom
> >> knife. It will be ready for delivery some time in 2010.
> >> With that kind of backlog, they might crossover with
> >> Seecamp :(
> >
> > You might want to get your $$$ back. I little known knife
> > maker right by you actually makes perhaps the best knives
> > around with faster turn around. See:
> > http://www.tridentknives.com/
>
> I am buying the Randall for it's
> historic/collection/investment value.

OK.

>
> > I have:
> >
> > http://www.tridentknives.com/oberland_03_custom-knife.htm
>
> Nice, but, there are plenty of tough hard use knives around.
> I'd put my Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie up against any
> bowie, my Al Mar SERE 2000 against any folder, and my
> in-the-mail Al Mar Limited Edition Shiva against any 5-6
> inch fixed blade.

Trident is made not far from you so you could go take a look.
Sure, plenty of tough knives out there.

>
> > There is nothing tougher then these Trident knives. BTW, I
> > just sent my Scandium SnW 1911 to Novak's to have a kart
> > barrel and matched bushing and other stuff done. Can't
> > wait to get it back....
>
> Gee, I'm sorry, you had to have work done on it, huh? Shame
> they couldn't get it working well right off. Try a Kimber
> next time :)

Nothing was ever wrong with it, but nothing beats a hand
tuned barrel and bushing. Simply cant be done in a factory
unless it goes through a custom shop, and that makes it cost
more of course.

>
> David
>
>

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

[Brian Link]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:35:42 -0500, WillBrink
<WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <cplbm1h41qfesm18f8qca2hh4utdtepkvg@4ax.com>,
>Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:54 GMT, "David Cohen"
>> <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>> >> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>> >> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>> >> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>> >> have decent advice, and when I present the results here
>> >> I routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I
>> >> obviously haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>> >>
>> >> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>> >> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>> >> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>> >> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>> >> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
>> >> benefits of whey supplementation?
>> >
>> >http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCOD-
>> >ING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=Ms
>> >sFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>> >
>> >http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>> >
>> >David
>> >
>>
>> Thanks David.
>
>All this time you have been posting here, you should have
>known that.
>
>
>>
>> BLink

Will, I've gone from posting basic questions, to getting
caught up in futile political flamewars, to briefly lurking
and then boycotting. I started lifting weights when I hit 40
to avoid a bloated and decrepit middle age. I'm a dilletante.

Lots of information here - I don't read every thread, though.

I know proper ways to lift heavy pieces of metal to change my
body, and some stuff on nutrition, but I can't possibly
compare my knowledge to you folks who do this stuff for a
living or read the newsgroup religiously. I post questions,
read the responses, and only occasionally check in on
unrelated threads.

In my own fields, music and programming, I constantly run into
experts in some area or another who have absolutely no
knowledge of some seemingly obvious piece of information.
Though I'm not an expert on resistance training, I don't feel
guilty if I miss details like Whey's benefits. That's why I
ask here - there are some folks who'll give a quick and simple
answer like David, or occasionally yourself, and I'll just eat
up the accompanying spam.

Usually I refrain from replying to little digs like this, but
I really respect you, and want to remind you that just because
folks here glean some info in one area doesn't mean that they
are all-around experts. There's a sort of macho veneer in most
of the posts here, which I understand, but I get frustrated
that simple questions from well-meaning but unschooled posters
get dumped without real responses. Such may be the nature of
Usenet, but mature and educated posters like yourself often
seem to forget this simple truth.

BLink

[Brian Link]

On 01 Nov 2005 22:35:37 GMT, DZ
<18163@2900328266.2484820122.11113.825.3604> wrote:

>Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>> DZ wrote:
>>>Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here I
>>>> routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I obviously
>>>> haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>>
>>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the benefits
>>>> of whey supplementation?
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm just curious - did you manage to quit smoking?
>>
>> Nope.
>
>I was just thinking that maybe all the benefits of whey are
>quite minuscule compared to benefits of not smoking. More
>importantly, though, I really can't comprehend how a
>countertenor can smoke at all. I mean, wouldn't smoking make
>the voice of a countertenor less ... uhm ... sparky?
>
>I don't think for example this dude is a smoker!!! -
>
>http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=01156-
>9701070706900&cid=600111
>
>(he may not be lifting weights either I suppose)

I'm lucky. I've always been a "natural singer", which means
that I didn't need voice lessons to make a nice sound. One of
my teachers at IU told me "You can't really teach a
countertenor, the best you can do is keep them from hurting
themselves".

btw, to hear me sing, go to
http://www.discant.com/vivaldicessate.mp3. That'll get a fun
reaction from the macho dudes in this newsgroup.. hehe.

Not a day goes by that I don't look for some way to quit. The
good news is that, in a family of smokers, my brother and I
are the last holdouts. All my relatives just quit without
preamble or drama. It's possible.

One thing is true: a smoker who exercises is in a better
position than one who does not.

Every time I try to quit is practice for the time I
finally do.

BLink

[Thebillrod]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:37:18 -0600, Brian Link
<blink@visi.com> wrote:

>btw, to hear me sing, go to
>http://www.discant.com/vivaldicessate.mp3. That'll get a fun
>reaction from the macho dudes in this newsgroup.. hehe.

Thank god my sound system is down...

[Dz]

Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
> DZ wrote:
>>I was just thinking that maybe all the benefits of whey are
>>quite minuscule compared to benefits of not smoking. More
>>importantly, though, I really can't comprehend how a
>>countertenor can smoke at all. I mean, wouldn't smoking make
>>the voice of a countertenor less ... uhm ... sparky?
>>
>>I don't think for example this dude is a smoker!!! -
>>
>>http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=0115-
>>69701070706900&cid=600111
>>
>>(he may not be lifting weights either I suppose)
>
> I'm lucky. I've always been a "natural singer", which means
> that I didn't need voice lessons to make a nice sound. One
> of my teachers at IU told me "You can't really teach a
> countertenor, the best you can do is keep them from hurting
> themselves".
>
> btw, to hear me sing, go to
> http://www.discant.com/vivaldicessate.mp3. That'll get a fun
> reaction from the macho dudes in this newsgroup..

What can be less macho than discussions about LBM and
bodybuilding? Even powerlifting is girly in a Cabinet Narcisse
kinda way, if you think about it. But that mp3 is totaly wild!
<SUBSCRIBE> Do you sing more modern stuff? The link I posted
is an excerpt from Britten. It seems he wrote lots for
countertenor.

[Brian Link]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:00:26 -0500, JMW
<jmw@event.horizon> wrote:

>Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:34:42 -0600, Brian Link
>><blink@visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:14:21 -0500, JMW
>>><jmw@event.horizon> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Brian Link" <blink@visi.com> wrote
>>>>>> Since I'm still a noob as far as weightlifting and
>>>>>> supplements, I've been trying to get a better sense of
>>>>>> this particular topic. I still read mags which seem to
>>>>>> have decent advice, and when I present the results here
>>>>>> I routinely get called out by smarter folks. So I
>>>>>> obviously haven't found the touchstone resources yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I've been wondering about the benefits of Whey
>>>>>> supplementation for people not necessarily looking for
>>>>>> protein boosts. Some claims that I've read include:
>>>>>> increased brain function, boosted immune systems, liver
>>>>>> rejuvenation, mood stabilization, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone point to a scholarly discourse on the
>>>>>> benefits of whey supplementation?
>>>>>
>>>>>http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCO-
>>>>>DING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFind.cfg&ALLCATS=X&NO_DL=X&CAT_KEY-
>>>>>=&AGE_WGT=0&QUERY=whey
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.brinkzone.com/onlinearticles.html
>>>>
>>>>However, Brian should be cautious. It has been reported in
>>>>some recent studies that consumption of whey protein may
>>>>upregulate the expression of Republican genes in certain
>>>>mid-brain neurons, thereby causing a substantial increase
>>>>in intelligence but reducing one's ability to react
>>>>hysterically to public policy issues. Brian might find
>>>>such side effects to be psychologically challenging.
>>>
>>>Yes, I'm familiar with these studies. However, you seem to
>>>be reading them inaccurately, since they all stem from the
>>>seminal article "Consumption of Whey Protein coupled with
>>>Sniffing Airplane Glue and Living in a Trailer Park and
>>>Voting for Corrupt Lying Bastards due to Xenophobia and
>>>Fear of Fictional Islamic Cave-Dwellers", which has proven
>>>to have several serious statistical flaws, owing to the
>>>control group's ingestion of rye ergot.
>
>Actually, the statistical errors were due to the miniscule
>sample sizes of Republicans amongst populations of glue
>sniffers and trailer park dwellers. The confounding factor of
>ergotamine consumption was due to residual contamination of
>household glassware used by glue-sniffing,
>trailer-park-dwelling liberals for hallucinogen production.
>
>>Also, see "An Etymological Disaster: Evolution of 'Heckuva
>>Job' to 'Incompetent Crony'" and "Attribution of Genius to
>>Serial Failure by Disgraced Former Supreme Court Nominee" in
>>"Psychological Anomalies Journal".
>
>You need to keep up on our recent research, Brian:
>
>Williams J. The effect of natural disasters on yellow dog
>(canis liberalis) feeding frenzies. J Autonom Reflex Lib Pol.
>2005 Oct 31;4(5):480-84.
>
>Williams J, Cohen D. Behavioral responses of the common
>barking moonbat (moonbatis Americanus) to a bait-and-switch
>protocol. J Autonom Reflex Lib Pol. 2005 Oct 31;4(5):485-90.

You win. =)

BLink

[Steve Frei]

"DZ" <14701@561632235.2811731168.4297.18889.10373> wrote in
message news:23787@191081982.162225177.7680.27123.26075...
> Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>> DZ wrote:
>>>I was just thinking that maybe all the benefits of whey are
>>>quite minuscule compared to benefits of not smoking. More
>>>importantly, though, I really can't comprehend how a
>>>countertenor can smoke at all. I mean, wouldn't smoking
>>>make the voice of a countertenor less ... uhm ... sparky?
>>>
>>>I don't think for example this dude is a smoker!!! -
>>>
>>>http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=011-
>>>569701070706900&cid=600111
>>>
>>>(he may not be lifting weights either I suppose)
>>
>> I'm lucky. I've always been a "natural singer", which means
>> that I didn't need voice lessons to make a nice sound. One
>> of my teachers at IU told me "You can't really teach a
>> countertenor, the best you can do is keep them from hurting
>> themselves".
>>
>> btw, to hear me sing, go to
>> http://www.discant.com/vivaldicessate.mp3. That'll get a
>> fun reaction from the macho dudes in this newsgroup..
>
> What can be less macho than discussions about LBM and
> bodybuilding? Even powerlifting is girly in a Cabinet
> Narcisse kinda way, if you think about it. But that mp3 is
> totaly wild! <SUBSCRIBE> Do you sing more modern stuff? The
> link I posted is an excerpt from Britten. It seems he wrote
> lots for countertenor.

Britten wrote a fair amount for his partner, tenor Peter
Pears.

-S- http://www.kbnj.com

[Dz]

Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
> "DZ" wrote
>> Brian Link <blink@visi.com> wrote:
>>> DZ wrote:
>>>>I was just thinking that maybe all the benefits of whey
>>>>are quite minuscule compared to benefits of not smoking.
>>>>More importantly, though, I really can't comprehend how a
>>>>countertenor can smoke at all. I mean, wouldn't smoking
>>>>make the voice of a countertenor less ... uhm ... sparky?
>>>>
>>>>I don't think for example this dude is a smoker!!! -
>>>>
>>>>http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=01-
>>>>1569701070706900&cid=600111
>>>>
>>>>(he may not be lifting weights either I suppose)
>>>
>>> I'm lucky. I've always been a "natural singer", which
>>> means that I didn't need voice lessons to make a nice
>>> sound. One of my teachers at IU told me "You can't really
>>> teach a countertenor, the best you can do is keep them
>>> from hurting themselves".
>>>
>>> btw, to hear me sing, go to
>>> http://www.discant.com/vivaldicessate.mp3. That'll get a
>>> fun reaction from the macho dudes in this newsgroup..
>>
>> What can be less macho than discussions about LBM and
>> bodybuilding? Even powerlifting is girly in a Cabinet
>> Narcisse kinda way, if you think about it. But that mp3 is
>> totaly wild! <SUBSCRIBE> Do you sing more modern stuff? The
>> link I posted is an excerpt from Britten. It seems he wrote
>> lots for countertenor.
>
> Britten wrote a fair amount for his partner, tenor
> Peter Pears.

Boy I'm glad he did! My favorite vocal cycle by him, Les
Illuminations is on the text of a gay poet Rimbaud too. Some
of what Britten wrote took a lot of balls. A real "macho"
man he was.

[Jmw]

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
>>> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
><snip the unimportant on topic stuff, so we can just deal
>with guns, knives, and dogs...the big three>
>
>>> >> I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom
>>> >> knife. It will be ready for delivery some time in 2010.
>>> >> With that kind of backlog, they might crossover with
>>> >> Seecamp :(
>>> >
>>> > You might want to get your $$$ back. I little known
>>> > knife maker right by you actually makes perhaps the best
>>> > knives around with faster turn around. See:
>>> > http://www.tridentknives.com/
>>>
>>> I am buying the Randall for it's
>>> historic/collection/investment value.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>> > I have:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.tridentknives.com/oberland_03_custom-knife-
>>> > .htm
>>>
>>> Nice, but, there are plenty of tough hard use knives
>>> around. I'd put my Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie up against
>>> any bowie, my Al Mar SERE 2000 against any folder, and my
>>> in-the-mail Al Mar Limited Edition Shiva against any 5-6
>>> inch fixed blade.
>>
>> Trident is made not far from you so you could go take a
>> look. Sure, plenty of tough knives out there.
>
>Well, St George isn't far, but it is a day trip. Next time
>I'm up there, maybe I'll call ahead and see if I can visit.
>That would be cool, visiting a custom knifemaker's shop.
>
>>> > There is nothing tougher then these Trident knives. BTW,
>>> > I just sent my Scandium SnW 1911 to Novak's to have a
>>> > kart barrel and matched bushing and other stuff done.
>>> > Can't wait to get it back....
>>>
>>> Gee, I'm sorry, you had to have work done on it, huh?
>>> Shame they couldn't get it working well right off. Try a
>>> Kimber next time :)
>>
>> Nothing was ever wrong with it, but nothing beats a hand
>> tuned barrel and bushing. Simply cant be done in a factory
>> unless it goes through a custom shop, and that makes it
>> cost more of course.
>
>Oh, I was just messin' with ya'.
>
>Your S&W1911 is a perfectly adequate handgun.

But the knife will make for a good backup in case it starts
jamming like a Kimber.

[David Cohe]

"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
>> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

<snip the unimportant on topic stuff, so we can just deal with
guns, knives, and dogs...the big three>

>> >> I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom
>> >> knife. It will be ready for delivery some time in 2010.
>> >> With that kind of backlog, they might crossover with
>> >> Seecamp :(
>> >
>> > You might want to get your $$$ back. I little known knife
>> > maker right by you actually makes perhaps the best knives
>> > around with faster turn around. See:
>> > http://www.tridentknives.com/
>>
>> I am buying the Randall for it's
>> historic/collection/investment value.
>
> OK.
>
>> > I have:
>> >
>> > http://www.tridentknives.com/oberland_03_custom-knife.htm
>>
>> Nice, but, there are plenty of tough hard use knives
>> around. I'd put my Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie up against
>> any bowie, my Al Mar SERE 2000 against any folder, and my
>> in-the-mail Al Mar Limited Edition Shiva against any 5-6
>> inch fixed blade.
>
> Trident is made not far from you so you could go take a
> look. Sure, plenty of tough knives out there.

Well, St George isn't far, but it is a day trip. Next time I'm
up there, maybe I'll call ahead and see if I can visit. That
would be cool, visiting a custom knifemaker's shop.

>> > There is nothing tougher then these Trident knives. BTW,
>> > I just sent my Scandium SnW 1911 to Novak's to have a
>> > kart barrel and matched bushing and other stuff done.
>> > Can't wait to get it back....
>>
>> Gee, I'm sorry, you had to have work done on it, huh? Shame
>> they couldn't get it working well right off. Try a Kimber
>> next time :)
>
> Nothing was ever wrong with it, but nothing beats a hand
> tuned barrel and bushing. Simply cant be done in a factory
> unless it goes through a custom shop, and that makes it cost
> more of course.

Oh, I was just messin' with ya'.

Your S&W1911 is a perfectly adequate handgun.

<running away, screaming like a girl>

David

[Willbrink]

In article
<%gU9f.4527$Rl1.2914@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "David
Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> "WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote
> >> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> <snip the unimportant on topic stuff, so we can just deal
> with guns, knives, and dogs...the big three>
>
> >> >> I just put a deposit down on a Randall Model 1 custom
> >> >> knife. It will be ready for delivery some time in
> >> >> 2010. With that kind of backlog, they might crossover
> >> >> with Seecamp :(
> >> >
> >> > You might want to get your $$$ back. I little known
> >> > knife maker right by you actually makes perhaps the
> >> > best knives around with faster turn around. See:
> >> > http://www.tridentknives.com/
> >>
> >> I am buying the Randall for it's
> >> historic/collection/investment value.
> >
> > OK.
> >
> >> > I have:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.tridentknives.com/oberland_03_custom-knife.-
> >> > htm
> >>
> >> Nice, but, there are plenty of tough hard use knives
> >> around. I'd put my Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie up
> >> against any bowie, my Al Mar SERE 2000 against any
> >> folder, and my in-the-mail Al Mar Limited Edition Shiva
> >> against any 5-6 inch fixed blade.
> >
> > Trident is made not far from you so you could go take a
> > look. Sure, plenty of tough knives out there.
>
> Well, St George isn't far, but it is a day trip. Next time
> I'm up there, maybe I'll call ahead and see if I can visit.
> That would be cool, visiting a custom knifemaker's shop.

The owner was at SWAT Challange. Nice guy and I learned a ton
about what really makes a tough knife. I have ColdSteal,
Emerson, and others and I would never even attempt what he
does in that short film or the pics of the guy standing on it
wedged in the wall. He also did a little test in front of me
with one of the more poplular brands out there where he cut a
moon shaped slice right out of it's blade with no effects on
the Trident. I purchased one on the spot after seeing that.

>
> Your S&W1911 is a perfectly adequate handgun.
>
> <running away, screaming like a girl>

I will outshoot you and your Kimber! Next time I am in NV,
loser buys Morton's dinner!

>
> David
>
>

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