WTF????? I Lost 10 lbs. Today!!!!!

[Nyc Xyz]

Hey!

I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe three
or four hours of rest throughout.

I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone as
high as 34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking my sweet
time climbing a hill (though I usually love to climb hills).

Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest pace
of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which is
about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!

Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish sandwich
with tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a triple
cheeseburger and medium fries with a medium iced tea -- that's
like 2,416 calories right there! The only other thing I had
was a bowl of Total cereal earlier in the day (roughly one and
a half servings).

So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be
water weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the next
two days and see if I don't gain any back...?

What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once,
anyway? Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten pounds
a week...eat proper, and exercise the hell out of myself!

[Atp*]

"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127700901.832411.75490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hey!
>
> I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe
> three or four hours of rest throughout.
>
> I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone
> as high as 34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking
> my sweet time climbing a hill (though I usually love to
> climb hills).
>
> Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
> see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest
> pace of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
> night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
> day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
> though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which
> is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
> eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!
>
> Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish
> sandwich with tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a
> triple cheeseburger and medium fries with a medium iced tea
> -- that's like 2,416 calories right there! The only other
> thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier in the day
> (roughly one and a half servings).
>
> So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be
> water weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the
> next two days and see if I don't gain any back...?
>
> What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once,
> anyway? Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten
> pounds a week...eat proper, and exercise the hell out
> of myself!

I've seen various figures for cycling calories, usually about
40 per mile for a modest pace. Why would you eat all that
crap at Burger King in the middle of a ride? You can do 40 to
50 miles just on carbohydrate stores, although I don't
recommend it. A few light snacks along the way should keep
you from bonking on a ride like that. You probably lost some
carb stores and the associated water weight. IMHO, bike
riding is the most effective way to burn lots of calories. If
you ride x miles from home it's a pretty good bet you're
going to ride back, so quitting before your target distance
is not an option.

[Nyc Xyz]

ATP* wrote:
>
>
> I've seen various figures for cycling calories, usually
> about 40 per mile for a modest pace.

Wow, that's great! I mean, it's very easy to go miles and
miles...when I commute to work, it's around nine miles each
way (depending on the route, sometimes ten, sometimes
eight)...super!

> Why would you eat all that crap at Burger King in the middle
> of a ride?

Dude, it's flame-broiled!

Seriously, "traveling" has always meant food to me...well, I
love food to begin with (it's the great national pastime for
Chinese -- LOL!), and those energy bars feel so lame.

Actually, hunger isn't the point...it just seems to go
together, rigorous physical activity and hearty meals! I think
I work out just to justify dining out.

> You can do 40 to 50 miles just on carbohydrate stores,
> although I don't recommend it.

Why not? I've done all-day rides of about fifty miles
without eating the entire day. Didn't feel any different.
Actually, it's amazing how easily hunger is ignored when
you're busy pedaling!

> A few light snacks along the way should keep you from
> bonking on a ride like that. You probably lost some carb
> stores and the associated water weight. IMHO, bike riding
> is the most effective way to burn lots of calories. If you
> ride x miles from home it's a pretty good bet you're going
> to ride back, so quitting before your target distance is
> not an option.

Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????

Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!

I ate one of them Healthy Choice microwavable entrees (only
280 calories -- and feels like it [that is, a snack]!) and a
protein shake (80 calories for 40g protein) and lots of water
(half gallon!)...and THREE POUNDS, JUST LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!

[Dd]

NYC XYZ wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe
> three or four hours of rest throughout.
>
> I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone
> as high as 34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking
> my sweet time climbing a hill (though I usually love to
> climb hills).
>
> Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
> see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest
> pace of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
> night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
> day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
> though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which
> is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
> eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!
>
> Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish
> sandwich with tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a
> triple cheeseburger and medium fries with a medium iced tea
> -- that's like 2,416 calories right there! The only other
> thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier in the day
> (roughly one and a half servings).
>
> So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be
> water weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the
> next two days and see if I don't gain any back...?
>
> What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once,
> anyway? Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten
> pounds a week...eat proper, and exercise the hell out
> of myself!
>
You haven't actually lost much of the essential weight, that
of fat stores. This will only happen to any noticed extent by
continuing your exercise regime. Keep at it and do it more
than just one day a week then you'll notice a difference that
will be longterm. BTW you have probably lost a lot of water
through dehydration and probably compounded this by taking in
slow-to-digest fast foods. Unless since the ride you've taken
in some mineral/sports drink like Gatorade you probably won't
have a good bowel movement for days. Of course depending on
your age this might be natural.

[Wafflycat]

"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127700901.832411.75490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hey!
>
> I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe
> three or four hours of rest throughout.
>
> I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone
> as high as 34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking
> my sweet time climbing a hill (though I usually love to
> climb hills).
>
> Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
> see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest
> pace of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
> night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
> day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
> though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which
> is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
> eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!
>
> Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish
> sandwich with tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a
> triple cheeseburger and medium fries with a medium iced tea
> -- that's like 2,416 calories right there! The only other
> thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier in the day
> (roughly one and a half servings).
>

Bad move. High fat stuff. certainly fat in the tartare sauce,
mayo, cheese, fries as well as whatever fat content the meat
had. There's much better stuff you can eat. This stuff is fine
for the occasional treat, but not whilst exercising - it takes
an age to digest. Much better to eat something that's going to
provide decent fuel before you start riding. Porridge
(oatmeal) with fruit is a good starter. The porridge gives a
good low-fat, slow-release of carbohydrate and the fruit gives
a quicker release - so you've got something to get you going
and keep you going. Take plenty of fluid with you on the ride
and drink regularly.

> So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be
> water weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the
> next two days and see if I don't gain any back...?
>

Mostly fluid. You need to keep hydrated or you will lose
energy relatively quickly, get dehydrated and you can become
constipated.

> What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once,
> anyway? Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten
> pounds a week...eat proper, and exercise the hell out
> of myself!
>

Aim for a loss of about 2-3 lbs per week over the long term.
This is a healthy amount to lose that is easier to keep off.
Lose a lot quickly and you risk putting it back on quickly. I
know this - been there, done that :)

Cheers, helne s

[Roger Hous]

"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127704081.934575.92740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>
> Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????
>
> Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!
>
> I ate one of them Healthy Choice microwavable entrees (only
> 280 calories -- and feels like it [that is, a snack]!) and a
> protein shake (80 calories for 40g protein) and lots of
> water (half gallon!)...and THREE POUNDS, JUST LIKE
> THAT!!!!!!!!

Take a dump and you'll only be up two for a net of eight lost.

Be sure to take a scale to work with you and weigh before and
after the coffee break and the mid-morning whiz, too. Keep
careful records, we'll be checking.

Seriously, weigh yourself about once a week. If you want to
take weight off and keep it off, plan on about 2.5 lb per week
max, and plan to hit plateaus and little up and down
transients. The transients can be discouraging (or
manic-depressive, maybe) if you weigh daily or more often.
Muscle is also more dense than fat, so as your body
composition changes, weight might not be the best index of
fitness. Maybe the way your pants fit might tell you more
about that. Or (if all else fails) how you FEEL.

Ten pounds isn't even a gallon and a half of sweat and water
vapor lost to hard breathing. So, yeah, you could lose five
kilos (5% of your body weight) on a long hot ride. And a half
gallon of water weighs four pounds, just under two kilos.

[The Bill R]

On 25 Sep 2005 20:08:01 -0700, "NYC XYZ"
<jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????
>
>Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!
10lbs is not at all surprising. Simply water weight
fluctuation, normal for any runner in hot weather. A good
dump is 5 lbs.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[Roger Zoul]

The Bill Rogers <TheBillRodgers@comcast.net> wrote:
:> On 25 Sep 2005 20:08:01 -0700, "NYC XYZ"
:> <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote:
:>
:>>Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????
:>>
:>>Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!
:> 10lbs is not at all surprising. Simply water weight
:> fluctuation, normal for any runner in hot weather. A good
:> dump is 5 lbs.

No way is a good dump 5 lbs. When is the last time you weighed
some shit?

well, maybe you shit bricks... :)

[Nyc Xyz]

You're right! I don't know where I got that...wishful
thinking?

It's actually 220 calories for 40g of protein...I just
checked! It's that GNC Mega-something-or-other whey with some
creatine and carbs....

Well, that explains the three pounds, then!

But now, I weighed myself again this morning...and I lost the
three pounds!!! I'm back down to 225!!!!

?!?!?!?!?

Spammers_Should_Be_Shot wrote:
>
>
> Damn, where'd you get that? A gram of protein (or carbs) = 4
> calories.
>
> 40 x 4 = 160 so..... either your calorie number is wrong or
> the protein number is (not to mention there's probably other
> stuff besides just protein in that shake!)

[Nyc Xyz]

The Bill Rogers wrote:
>
>
> WTF is your obsession with the scale?

WTF is your obsession with my obsession??

> You should weigh yourself once per week, at the same time of
> day, preferably morning.

Actually, I don't really care. I look all of 180. No joke!
Buffed, etc. Folks routinely think me like thirty to seventy
pounds lighter than I really am.

I just started getting into monitoring my weight 'cause 1) I
recently read that one can be too heavy for one's bike (and
particularly its wheels -- I'm riding rough on 32 spokes when
the recommended number for my weight class is at least 36),
and 2) I am interested in parachuting, and most places that
take you up have an upper weight limit of 225 lbs.

Besides, I like to jog and feel like I'd enjoy it even more if
I were back down to ~180-200 lbs.

> It is PERFECTLY NORMAL to lose 3 lbs overnight, by
> suppertime it'll be back.

Ah, well, didn't realize this. Though stuff was supposed to
take longer? Digestion, etc.

> I'm for passing a law that scales must be sold with
> instructions for stupid people included.

LOL -- like the one that comes with remote controls which
state that if you don't like what you see, CHANGE THE CHANNEL
OR TURN IT OFF!

[Nyc Xyz]

I can't wait for them to perfect the process of creating meat
in the laboratory!

Did anyone else read or hear about this in the news (not to be
confused with the other story about some guy finding out how
to turn dark meat into white meat)? It was like three weeks
ago...some scientist(s) created actual meat in the
laboratory!!!!!

You're in high tech? Maybe you know about this stuff?

One of the most promising things about this technology would
be the ability to manufacture perfectly fatless meat full of
vitamins and minerals!!!

Paul Hobson wrote:
>
>
> www.peta.org
>
> [x-post nixed]
>
> --
> Paul M. Hobson Georgia Institute of Technology .:change the
> words to numbers if you want to reply to me:.

[Bc]

NYC XYZ wrote:
> I can't wait for them to perfect the process of creating
> meat in the laboratory!
>
> Did anyone else read or hear about this in the news (not to
> be confused with the other story about some guy finding out
> how to turn dark meat into white meat)? It was like three
> weeks ago...some scientist(s) created actual meat in the
> laboratory!!!!!
>
> You're in high tech? Maybe you know about this stuff?
>
> One of the most promising things about this technology would
> be the ability to manufacture perfectly fatless meat full of
> vitamins and minerals!!!

"It's people! Soylent Green is people!"

perfectly fatless meat isn't all that fun to eat, or cook,
anyway. Go with a protein powder if that's what you're after.

- bc

[Mary Gordo]

I agree Bill.

I weigh myself more often than once a week, but the
fluctuations are wild day to day, and I'm only 130 lb (give
or take, depending on the time of day or what I did the day
before etc.) If I eat something salty and drink a lot of
fluids one evening, I can be up 3 or 4 pounds the next day -
and of course, women fluctuate like crazy just due to time of
the month. If I'm a bit dehydrated in the morning, boom, I'm
down weight - not fat, just water weight. I just look for the
point I seem to be fluctuating around - the fulcrum. When I
was actively dieting, I used to graph my weight (I had
medically supervised weigh ins 3x per week), and while the
overall long term trend went steadily down, day to day, week
to week, it fluctuated all over the place, and I had to learn
to ignore that (omigod, I'm trying so hard and I'm not
losing!!!....omigod, I'm up 1/2 lb...argh I'm so
discouraged!!).

The big picture view is the one that matters. If a person who
weighs 130 can fluctuate over a 5-7 pound range strictly due
to fluid, a person who is 225 may have an even wider range. My
late father, who weighed more than 320...,and yes, obesity
contributed to his early death at 63), used to comment that
his weight would fluctuate 15 lb or so just due to water.

I just about died when I saw what NYC had for lunch. Never
mind weight loss, talk about a totally over the top junky,
high fat high calorie pig out . You might as well just eat a
brick of lard for all the nutrition that mess of fast food
contained.

I was watching a thing on TV about a guy who weighed more than
1000 lb. He was hospitalized (congestive heart failure), and
one thing they had to deal with immediately
was....malnutrition. He was eating mountains of crap but
despite the volume of calories, was actually malnourished
which was contributing to his health issues. Kinda wild.

I've only been maintaining for 7 months now, but I am
extremely conscious of making what I do eat count i.e. no more
empty calories, that make me fat, and contribute nothing to
keeping the machine running well.

Mary 5' 6", was 196 about a year ago. Ain't going back there,
no how, no way.

[Mary Gordo]

Gee Bill, that was a pleasant response. Blood sugar a
little low?

M

[Andy Gee]

"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1127700901.832411.75490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hey!
>

>
> Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
> see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest
> pace of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
> night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
> day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
> though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which
> is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
> eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!
>

1. Glycogen store is about 900 grams, good for 3600 calories.
Water reserve for processing the glycogen is 3600 grams,
total 4,500 grams, or just shy of 10 pounds.

2. Sweat is limited to about 2% of bodyweight between
hydrations, or thereabouts, say 4 pounds in your case. The
water content of your lunch probably partially hydrated
you, so you could have sweat some of that off as well.

So if you pushed yourself most of the way to the max, it's
possible to have lost 10 pounds. The thing is: is your
result reproducible under the same conditions; and is it
possible to continue the process without replenishing your
reserve water supply?

--ag

[The Wogste]

NYC XYZ wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe
> three or four hours of rest throughout.
>
> I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone
> as high as 34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking
> my sweet time climbing a hill (though I usually love to
> climb hills).
>
> Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
> see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest
> pace of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
> night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
> day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
> though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which
> is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
> eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!
>
> Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish
> sandwich with tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a
> triple cheeseburger and medium fries with a medium iced tea
> -- that's like 2,416 calories right there! The only other
> thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier in the day
> (roughly one and a half servings).

What a pile of absolute crap.

Weight comes down to energy in vs energy out, you can burn an
incredible amount of energy with exersize. There are long
distance hikers who need 5,000+ calories per day, to break
even, and they are just walking, mind you often with an over
25kg pack on their back.

The human body is a complex mechanism, that manufactures and
uses chemicals, at various rates, depending on what it's
central computer is asking it to do. There are certain
requirements that need to be met, and exersize makes this
more critical.

You should talk to your doctor, he/she can recommend a
nutritionist to talk to, who can train you into determining
the right foods, to meet your needs, both on and off bike.

The issue on a long ride, is you need to eat something, and
that gives you two options, carry it, or buy it. It's easier
to control it, if you carry it. The problem is that most
things, need refrigeration, but there are solutions. Visit a
camping store, or an outdoor store with a good camping
selection, and pick up a small insulated container that will
hold a small cache of food. This can go in a backpack or
pannier. Forget the freezer packs, they add weight without
usability. Better idea is buy a case of water, and throw it in
your freezer. Put a couple of bottles in your insulated
container with your food. Maybe add a small plastic bag with
something like Gatorade powder. Also carry something like a
trail-mix, make your own, and yes you can throw something
sweet in it like Smarties. The trail-mix goes in a jersey or
jacket pocket, so you can nibble as you ride, also carry
water, a couple of bike attached bottles helps, two is better,
you can mix some Gatorade powder in one, and leave the other
plain. A good idea is to use bottles that are different
colours, or get some coloured electrical tape, and put a ring
around one bottle, then you instantly know which is water and
which is "enhanced".

When you stop for lunch, your lunch will be nice and cool, and
the frozen water will have melted, at least partly. After you
eat, use the frozen water bottles to top up the on bike
bottles..... Put all your refuse back in your insulated
container, and your ready to continue.

> So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be
> water weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the
> next two days and see if I don't gain any back...?
>
> What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once,
> anyway? Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten
> pounds a week...eat proper, and exercise the hell out
> of myself!

Did you sweat, during your ride? If so, then it's likely that
most of it is water. 1L of water weighs 1kg, 10lbs is 4.54kg,
so you lost 4.54L of water, or 4 4/5 US Quarts of water. So
for a Sixty mile ride you need 4/5 Quarts of water for every
10 miles.... Something to keep in mind when planning a long
distance ride.

When you lose a lot in water, it's not good, you can throw off
your electrolite balance.

W

[Nyc Xyz]

TheBillRogers wrote:
>
>
> WTF is your obsession, with my obsession, with your
> obsession?

Why do you assume this?

> Your posts say differently.

Why do you assume that?

> Well if you thought that'd give me a boner, it didn't.

Why do you keep assuming things?

> Well just stop being so fat then.

As long as I don't take more than seven mikes to run a mile,
and can do
2.2 in fifteen, I don't feel fat.

> Irrational.

Not at all -- I'm thinking I'd be even faster without
the baggage.

> You can vary by even more somedays.

I'd expect as much were I fasting for 24 hours, but this was
just a nice little ride! With Burger King, to boot!

Well, I'm at 130 now! I'm really curious how quickly I can
shed it (while eating properly and exercising, of course --
not talking about starvation here) and how long I can keep it
off. I don't feel much differently, but I do miss that
"aaahhh" feeling of a nice thick meal.
=)

[Leo Lichtm]

"wafflycat" wrote: (clip) get dehydrated and you can become
constipated.
(clip)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And we already know from the previous
discussion, that it is hard to lose large amounts of
weight all at once when you're constipated. ;-)

[Reptilesbl]

The Wogster <wogsterca@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:gpVZe.1592$cq2.310527 @news20.bellglobal.com:

> NYC XYZ wrote:
>> Hey!
>>
>> I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe
>> three or four hours of rest throughout.
>>
>> I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone
>> as high as 34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking my
>> sweet time climbing a hill (though I usually love to climb
>> hills).
>>
>> Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I
>> see that a 190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest
>> pace of ~15 mph burns 600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last
>> night...now, about an hour back from a sixty or eighty mile
>> day -- I forget what my odometer read when starting out --
>> though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles), which
>> is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it
>> was eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!
>>
>> Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish
>> sandwich with tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a
>> triple cheeseburger and medium fries with a medium iced tea
>> -- that's like 2,416 calories right there! The only other
>> thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier in the day
>> (roughly one and a half servings).
>
> What a pile of absolute crap.
>
> Weight comes down to energy in vs energy out, you can burn
> an incredible amount of energy with exersize. There are long
> distance hikers who need 5,000+ calories per day, to break
> even, and they are just walking, mind you often with an over
> 25kg pack on their back.
>
> The human body is a complex mechanism, that manufactures and
> uses chemicals, at various rates, depending on what it's
> central computer is asking it to do. There are certain
> requirements that need to be met, and exersize makes this
> more critical.
>
> You should talk to your doctor, he/she can recommend a
> nutritionist to talk to, who can train you into determining
> the right foods, to meet your needs, both on and off bike.
>
> The issue on a long ride, is you need to eat something, and
> that gives you two options, carry it, or buy it. It's easier
> to control it, if you carry it. The problem is that most
> things, need refrigeration, but there are solutions. Visit a
> camping store, or an outdoor store with a good camping
> selection, and pick up a small insulated container that will
> hold a small cache of food. This can go in a backpack or
> pannier. Forget the freezer packs, they add weight without
> usability. Better idea is buy a case of water, and throw it
> in your freezer. Put a couple of bottles in your insulated
> container with your food. Maybe add a small plastic bag with
> something like Gatorade powder. Also carry something like a
> trail-mix, make your own, and yes you can throw something
> sweet in it like Smarties. The trail-mix goes in a jersey or
> jacket pocket, so you can nibble as you ride, also carry
> water, a couple of bike attached bottles helps, two is
> better, you can mix some Gatorade powder in one, and leave
> the other plain. A good idea is to use bottles that are
> different colours, or get some coloured electrical tape, and
> put a ring around one bottle, then you instantly know which
> is water and which is "enhanced".
>
> When you stop for lunch, your lunch will be nice and cool,
> and the frozen water will have melted, at least partly.
> After you eat, use the frozen water bottles to top up the on
> bike bottles..... Put all your refuse back in your insulated
> container, and your ready to continue.
>
>> So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be
>> water weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the
>> next two days and see if I don't gain any back...?
>>
>> What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once,
>> anyway? Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten
>> pounds a week...eat proper, and exercise the hell out of
>> myself!
>
> Did you sweat, during your ride? If so, then it's likely
> that most of it is water. 1L of water weighs 1kg, 10lbs is
> 4.54kg, so you lost 4.54L of water, or 4 4/5 US Quarts of
> water. So for a Sixty mile ride you need 4/5 Quarts of water
> for every 10 miles.... Something to keep in mind when
> planning a long distance ride.
>
> When you lose a lot in water, it's not good, you can throw
> off your electrolite balance.
>
> W
>


*claps*

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[Hellrazor]

"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1127744533.884026.70090 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I can't wait for them to perfect the process of creating
> meat in the laboratory!

http://slate.msn.com/id/2118241/

[Paul Hobso]

bc wrote:
> NYC XYZ wrote:
>
>>I can't wait for them to perfect the process of creating
>>meat in the laboratory!
>>
>>Did anyone else read or hear about this in the news (not to
>>be confused with the other story about some guy finding out
>>how to turn dark meat into white meat)? It was like three
>>weeks ago...some scientist(s) created actual meat in the
>>laboratory!!!!!
>>
>>You're in high tech? Maybe you know about this stuff?
>>
>>One of the most promising things about this technology would
>>be the ability to manufacture perfectly fatless meat full of
>>vitamins and minerals!!!
>
>
> "It's people! Soylent Green is people!"
>
> perfectly fatless meat isn't all that fun to eat, or
> cook, anyway. Go with a protein powder if that's what
> you're after.
>
> - bc
>
yeah, I'm not really into PETA at all...I just thought it make
bring a good balance to his seemingly lop-sided diet

--
Paul M. Hobson Georgia Institute of Technology .:change the
words to numbers if you want to reply to me:.

[The Bill R]

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:36:37 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>No way is a good dump 5 lbs. When is the last time you
>weighed some shit?

Eat some roughage, you'll "get it".

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[The Bill R]

On 26 Sep 2005 06:31:14 -0700, "NYC XYZ"
<jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote:

>But now, I weighed myself again this morning...and I lost the
>three pounds!!! I'm back down to 225!!!!

WTF is your obsession with the scale? You should weigh
yourself once per week, at the same time of day, preferably
morning. It is PERFECTLY NORMAL to lose 3 lbs overnight, by
suppertime it'll be back. I'm for passing a law that scales
must be sold with instructions for stupid people included.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[Wafflycat]

"The Bill Rogers" <TheBillRodgers@comcast.net> wrote in
message news:dsrfj1pmli8t0u0nicga7kv703gaogvh6d@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:36:37 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
> <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>No way is a good dump 5 lbs. When is the last time you
>>weighed some shit?
>
> Eat some roughage, you'll "get it".
>

Actually, he'll lose it ;-)

Cheers, helen s

[Bill Sorns]

The Bill Rogers wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2005 06:31:14 -0700, "NYC XYZ"
> <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> But now, I weighed myself again this morning...and I lost
>> the three pounds!!! I'm back down to 225!!!!
>
> WTF is your obsession with the scale? You should weigh
> yourself once per week, at the same time of day, preferably
> morning. It is PERFECTLY NORMAL to lose 3 lbs overnight, by
> suppertime it'll be back. I'm for passing a law that scales
> must be sold with instructions for stupid people included.

So should newsreaders...but you probably couldn't understand
them. (Or you'd just be too rude to follow 'em anyway.)

Now go ahead and tack your insipidly long Bush-bash sig file
on to whatever you reply (regardless of topic).

--
"Too often we...enjoy the comfort of opinion without the
discomfort of thought."

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) U.S. President
--
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory,
but progress.
- Joseph Joubert {BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA}
--
I watch what I eat. {pause} How else can I stab it to death?!?

(me)
--
"I would never judge this man, I only do because ..."

-- Maggie
--
"If you don't like it, turn off your station." -- Mike Tyson
--
"Sorry the world just does not work by your white penis ass."
-- Pungent Cloud
--
BS (no, I mean it)

[The Bill R]

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:24:11 +0100, "wafflycat"
<waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk> wrote:

>Actually, he'll lose it

But after he loses it, he'll get it.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[The Bill R]

<Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote in message
news:1127745818.233607.300550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I agree Bill.
>
> I weigh myself more often than once a week, but the
> fluctuations are wild day to day, and I'm only 130 lb (give
> or take, depending on the time of day or what I did the day
> before etc.) If I eat something salty and drink a lot of
> fluids one evening, I can be up 3 or 4 pounds the next day -
> and of course, women fluctuate like crazy just due to time
> of the month. If I'm a bit dehydrated in the morning, boom,
> I'm down weight - not fat, just water weight. I just look
> for the point I seem to be fluctuating around - the fulcrum.
> When I was actively dieting, I used to graph my weight (I
> had medically supervised weigh ins 3x per week), and while
> the overall long term trend went steadily down, day to day,
> week to week, it fluctuated all over the place, and I had to
> learn to ignore that (omigod, I'm trying so hard and I'm not
> losing!!!....omigod, I'm up 1/2 lb...argh I'm so
> discouraged!!).
>
> The big picture view is the one that matters. If a person
> who weighs 130 can fluctuate over a 5-7 pound range strictly
> due to fluid, a person who is 225 may have an even wider
> range. My late father, who weighed more than 320...,and yes,
> obesity contributed to his early death at 63), used to
> comment that his weight would fluctuate 15 lb or so just due
> to water.
>
> I just about died when I saw what NYC had for lunch. Never
> mind weight loss, talk about a totally over the top junky,
> high fat high calorie pig out . You might as well just eat a
> brick of lard for all the nutrition that mess of fast food
> contained.
>
> I was watching a thing on TV about a guy who weighed more
> than 1000 lb. He was hospitalized (congestive heart
> failure), and one thing they had to deal with immediately
> was....malnutrition. He was eating mountains of crap but
> despite the volume of calories, was actually malnourished
> which was contributing to his health issues. Kinda wild.
>
> I've only been maintaining for 7 months now, but I am
> extremely conscious of making what I do eat count i.e. no
> more empty calories, that make me fat, and contribute
> nothing to keeping the machine running well.
>
> Mary 5' 6", was 196 about a year ago. Ain't going back
> there, no how, no way.
>
WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it off,
no one likes to bang a slob!

[The Bill R]

"Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in message
news:sEUZe.1508$556.1457@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> The Bill Rogers wrote:
>> On 26 Sep 2005 06:31:14 -0700, "NYC XYZ"
>> <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But now, I weighed myself again this morning...and I lost
>>> the three pounds!!! I'm back down to 225!!!!
>>
>> WTF is your obsession with the scale? You should weigh
>> yourself once per week, at the same time of day, preferably
>> morning. It is PERFECTLY NORMAL to lose 3 lbs overnight, by
>> suppertime it'll be back. I'm for passing a law that scales
>> must be sold with instructions for stupid people included.
>
> So should newsreaders...but you probably couldn't understand
> them. (Or you'd just be too rude to follow 'em anyway.)
>
> Now go ahead and tack your insipidly long Bush-bash sig file
> on to whatever you reply (regardless of topic).
>
> --
> "Too often we...enjoy the comfort of opinion without the
> discomfort of thought."
>
> John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) U.S. President
> --
> The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory,
> but progress.
> - Joseph Joubert {BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA}
> --
> I watch what I eat. {pause} How else can I stab it to
> death?!?
>
> (me)
> --
> "I would never judge this man, I only do because ..."
>
> -- Maggie
> --
> "If you don't like it, turn off your station." -- Mike Tyson
> --
> "Sorry the world just does not work by your white penis
> ass." -- Pungent Cloud
> --
> BS (no, I mean it)

[Leo Lichtm]

<Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote: (clip) and of course, women
fluctuate like crazy just due to time of the month.(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's due to the moon's gravitational pull.
That's also what causes the tides, you know. Men don't have
the same effect, 'cause they're not as "looney."

[Reptilesbl]

"NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1127744013.338757.22790 @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>
> The Bill Rogers wrote:
>>
>>
>> WTF is your obsession with the scale?
>
> WTF is your obsession with my obsession??
>
>> You should weigh yourself once per week, at the same time
>> of day, preferably morning.
>
> Actually, I don't really care. I look all of 180. No joke!
> Buffed, etc. Folks routinely think me like thirty to seventy
> pounds lighter than I really am.
>
> I just started getting into monitoring my weight 'cause 1) I
> recently read that one can be too heavy for one's bike (and
> particularly its wheels -- I'm riding rough on 32 spokes
> when the recommended number for my weight class is at least
> 36), and 2) I am interested in parachuting, and most places
> that take you up have an upper weight limit of 225 lbs.
>

How did you find that out, can I have link to some site that
will tell me my weight class and what wheels I should be
riding please?

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[Thebillrog]

On 26 Sep 2005 07:13:33 -0700, "NYC XYZ"
<jack_foreigner@yahoo.com> wrote:

>WTF is your obsession with my obsession??
>

WTF is your obsession, with my obsession, with your obsession?

>Actually, I don't really care.

Your posts say differently.

> I look all of 180. No joke! Buffed, etc. Folks routinely
> think me like thirty to seventy pounds lighter than I
> really am.
>

Well if you thought that'd give me a boner, it didn't.

>I just started getting into monitoring my weight 'cause 1) I
>recently read that one can be too heavy for one's bike (and
>particularly its wheels -- I'm riding rough on 32 spokes when
>the recommended number for my weight class is at least 36),
>and 2) I am interested in parachuting, and most places that
>take you up have an upper weight limit of 225 lbs.
>

Well just stop being so fat then.

>Besides, I like to jog and feel like I'd enjoy it even more
>if I were back down to ~180-200 lbs.
>

Irrational.

>Ah, well, didn't realize this. Though stuff was supposed to
>take longer? Digestion, etc.
>

You can vary by even more somedays.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[Thebillrog]

On 26 Sep 2005 07:43:38 -0700, Mary_Gordon@tvo.org wrote:

>I agree Bill.
>

As you said, water alone weighs a heckuva lot.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[Wafflycat]

"The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
message
news:1127746016.1d4211645fedf0cf7eaf1bde37e183ac@teranews...
> WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it
> off, no one likes to bang a slob!
>

What an awful way to put things... YUK.

helen s

[Bill Sorns]

The Bill Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:24:11 +0100, "wafflycat"
> <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk> wrote:
>
>> Actually, he'll lose it
>
> But after he loses it, he'll get it.
>
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
> people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of
> the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
> White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale
> and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George
> W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Sig files that are 20-30 times the size of your "contribution"
to the thread are rude regardless of content. How about using
it selectively instead of EVERY SINGLE TIME? (Also, to be a
"proper" sig file it should be designated as such, and not
just pasted on in regular text. That way it gets removed if
someone actually wants to reply to your very mimimal /on
topic/ comments.)

BS
--
"I would never judge this man, I only do because ..."

-- Maggie

[Leo Lichtm]

"The Bill Rogers" <wrote: But after he loses it, he'll get it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't get it.

[Paul Hobso]

The Bill Rodgers wrote:
> <Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote in message news:1127745818.2336-
> 07.300550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
<mary's well thought-out and respectful post>
>>
>
> WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it
> off, no one likes to bang a slob!
>
>

Oh look, someone else to add to my killfile!

\\paul

[Leo Lichtm]

"TheBillRogers" wrote" WTF is your obsession, with my
obsession, with your obsession? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gosh, I can
hardly wait for the next episode.

[Roger Hous]

"The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
message
news:1127746016.1d4211645fedf0cf7eaf1bde37e183ac@teranews...
>>
> WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it
> off, no one likes to bang a slob!

A "slob" can diet. However, a dipshit will remain a dipshit.

Bang your fist.

[The Bill R]

<Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote in message
news:1127746181.079592.254430@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Gee Bill, that was a pleasant response. Blood sugar a
> little low?
>
> M
>
Which part did you disagree with?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[The Bill R]

"wafflycat" <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk>
wrote in message news:433832fa@news.greennet.net...
>
> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
> message news:1127746016.1d4211645fedf0cf7eaf1bde37e183ac@te-
> ranews...
>> WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it
>> off, no one likes to bang a slob!
>>
>
> What an awful way to put things... YUK.
>
> helen s
>
Are you a heffer too?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[The Bill R]

"Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in message
news:ZxUZe.1507$556.1495@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> The Bill Rogers wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:24:11 +0100, "wafflycat"
>> <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, he'll lose it
>>
>> But after he loses it, he'll get it.
>>
>> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
>> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
>> people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of
>> the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
>> White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
>> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale
>> and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George
>> W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
>
> Sig files that are 20-30 times the size of your
> "contribution" to the thread are rude regardless of content.
> How about using it selectively instead of EVERY SINGLE TIME?
> (Also, to be a "proper" sig file it should be designated as
> such, and not just pasted on in regular text. That way it
> gets removed if someone actually wants to reply to your very
> mimimal /on topic/ comments.)
>
Why don't you shut the hell up, netcop wannabe? You're to big
of an ass to be named Bill.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

> BS
> --
> "I would never judge this man, I only do because ..."
>
> -- Maggie

[Thebillrog]

On 26 Sep 2005 07:49:41 -0700, Mary_Gordon@tvo.org wrote:

>Gee Bill, that was a pleasant response. Blood sugar a
>little low?
>
>M

Mary, That is my imposter/stalker, not me.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[Dally]

NYC XYZ wrote:

> TheBillRogers wrote:
>
>>Well if you thought that'd give me a boner, it didn't.
>
> Why do you keep assuming things?

Seriously, you haven't figured this out?

Trolls make provocative, often offensive assertions, and then
sit back and enjoy everyone making a fuss over them.

This particular troll has a troll shadow. It makes it
particularly appropriate to killfile anything with
BillRodgers in it.

HTH.

Dally

[The Bill R]

"Roger Houston" <houstonr@nasa.org> wrote in message
news:3rOdnSORo-sSt6TeRVn-qg@centurytel.net...
>
> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
> message news:1127746016.1d4211645fedf0cf7eaf1bde37e183ac@te-
> ranews...
>>>
>> WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it
>> off, no one likes to bang a slob!
>
> A "slob" can diet. However, a dipshit will remain a dipshit.
>
Is that what your uncle daddy told you, you inbred hick?
>
> Bang your fist.
>
Like this?

[Wafflycat]

"The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
message
news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8@teranews...

>>
> Are you a heffer too?
>
No but you are a large asshole apparently.

Cheers, helen s

[Leo Lichtm]

"The Bill Rodgers" wrote: Are you a heffer too? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's spelled "heifer," Bill, but that doesn't matter now.
Hardly anyone is reading your posts. I have never seen anyone
descent into his own excrement so quickly.

[The Bill R]

"wafflycat" <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk>
wrote in message news:433833f3@news.greennet.net...
>
> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
> message news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8@te-
> ranews...
>
>>>
>> Are you a heffer too?
>>
> No but you are a large asshole apparently.
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:

http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg

Sorry, I'm not a chubby chaser!

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[Reptilesbl]

"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:tg-
WZe.319947$5N3.237830@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
> "The Bill Rodgers" wrote: Are you a heffer too?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's spelled "heifer," Bill, but that doesn't
> matter now. Hardly anyone is reading your posts. I have
> never seen anyone descent into his own excrement so quickly.
>
>
>

Yeah, no kidding. I have seen some pretty bad things online
before but this discussion is definitely up there in the worse
of the worse lists and it is no fault of the OP.

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[The Bill R]

"Ryan Case" <jcase@sirspamalot.spam> wrote in message
news:11jisnda2n2ebe4@corp.supernews.com...
> Dally wrote:
>
>> NYC XYZ wrote:
>>
>>> TheBillRogers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well if you thought that'd give me a boner, it didn't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why do you keep assuming things?
>>
>>
>> Seriously, you haven't figured this out?
>>
>> Trolls make provocative, often offensive assertions, and
>> then sit back and enjoy everyone making a fuss over them.
>>
>> This particular troll has a troll shadow. It makes it
>> particularly appropriate to killfile anything with
>> BillRodgers in it.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> Dally
>
> -x posting stripped-
>
RESTORED
>
> Which in all honesty is a good idea, but really only works
> brilliantly when others stop resopnding to the trolls.
>
> On a related note. I have noticed that the traffic in here
> has come to a grinding near halt. Then I realized that I was
> not only killing a couple of people, but also threads here
> and there. With careful filtering one could almost bring
> MFW, aaaaaaaaaaahhhh, nooooooooooooo,,,gasp,,,,,,,on topic.
>
> Ryan

[Wafflycat]

"The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
message
news:1127746920.b1e93d0eeb0687f73789525e654201b1@teranews...
>>
> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>
> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>

Sorry, don't want to look at someone that's full of bull.

Cheers, helen s

[Bill Sorns]

The Bill Rodgers wrote:
> "wafflycat" <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk>
> wrote in message news:433833f3@news.greennet.net...
>>
>> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
>> message news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8@t-
>> eranews...
>>
>>>>
>>> Are you a heffer too?
>>>
>> No but you are a large asshole apparently.
>>
>> Cheers, helen s
>>
> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>
> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg

OMG! Dude, get to a hospital!

(No wonder you had to take your own picture. No one would want
to be within 50 feet of THOSE diseases!)

Bill "we've got a live (sorta) one here folks" S.

PS: What's really funny (more sad) is that you think that
photo is /flattering/! Nasty...

[Roger Hous]

"The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
message
news:1127746920.b1e93d0eeb0687f73789525e654201b1@teranews...
> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>
> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg

So, how's everyone else in the trailer park?

[Nospam]

where'd you get those glasses? somewhere in 1980? "The Bill
Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in message
news:1127746920.b1e93d0eeb0687f73789525e654201b1@teranews...
>
> "wafflycat" <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk>
> wrote in message news:433833f3@news.greennet.net...
>>
>> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
>> message news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8@t-
>> eranews...
>>
>>>>
>>> Are you a heffer too?
>>>
>> No but you are a large asshole apparently.
>>
>> Cheers, helen s
>>
> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>
> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>
> Sorry, I'm not a chubby chaser!
>
> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
> people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of
> the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
> White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale
> and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George
> W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

[The Bill R]

"wafflycat" <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk>
wrote in message news:433839d7$1@news.greennet.net...
>
> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
> message news:1127746920.b1e93d0eeb0687f73789525e654201b1@te-
> ranews...
>>>
>> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>>
>
> Sorry, don't want to look at someone that's full of bull.
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
You would rather look at fat people!

hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha!

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the
land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White
House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale and
Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George W. Bush
has managed to overcome that presumption."

[The Bill R]

"Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in message
news:oLUZe.1538$y43.82@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> The Bill Rodgers wrote:
>> "wafflycat"
>> <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk> wrote in
>> message news:433833f3@news.greennet.net...
>>>
>>> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
>>> message news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8@-
>>> teranews...
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Are you a heffer too?
>>>>
>>> No but you are a large asshole apparently.
>>>
>>> Cheers, helen s
>>>
>> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>
>
> OMG! Dude, get to a hospital!
>
> (No wonder you had to take your own picture. No one would
> want to be within 50 feet of THOSE diseases!)
>
> Bill "we've got a live (sorta) one here folks" S.
>
> PS: What's really funny (more sad) is that you think that
> photo is /flattering/! Nasty...
>
>
alt.jealousy.isnt.pretty added just for you douchebag. Let's
see your ugly mugg, or are you too ashamed to post it?

[Wafflycat]

"Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in message
news:oLUZe.1538$y43.82@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> OMG! Dude, get to a hospital!
>
> (No wonder you had to take your own picture. No one would
> want to be within 50 feet of THOSE diseases!)
>
> Bill "we've got a live (sorta) one here folks" S.
>
> PS: What's really funny (more sad) is that you think that
> photo is /flattering/! Nasty...
>
>

Don't know what the pic was of, I certainly wasn't going to
click on a link that was offered by such an obvious w*nker.
Hence I have kill-filed him. There's so many more pleasant
people about it's much simpler to block out the offerings of
liquid bovine bowel movements :)

Cheers, helen s

[The Bill R]

"Roger Houston" <houstonr@nasa.org> wrote in message
news:3rOdnSKRo-sSt6TeRVn-qg@centurytel.net...
>
> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
> message news:1127746920.b1e93d0eeb0687f73789525e654201b1@te-
> ranews...
>> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>
> So, how's everyone else in the trailer park?
>
Ask your wife, she gives head in my shed.

[The Bill R]

"NoSpam" <nospam@comnospamcast.net> wrote in message
news:mYKdncl2Z4J_9qTeRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> where'd you get those glasses? somewhere in 1980? "The Bill
> Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in message news:-
> 1127746920.b1e93d0eeb0687f73789525e654201b1@teranews...
>>
>> "wafflycat"
>> <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk> wrote in
>> message news:433833f3@news.greennet.net...
>>>
>>> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
>>> message news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8@-
>>> teranews...
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Are you a heffer too?
>>>>
>>> No but you are a large asshole apparently.
>>>
>>> Cheers, helen s
>>>
>> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>>
>> Sorry, I'm not a chubby chaser!
>>
>> "As democracy is perfected, the office of president
>> represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the
>> people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of
>> the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
>> White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
>> H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) "Anyone with degrees from Yale
>> and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent, but George
>> W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
>>
>>
>
Top posting fuckwit says what?

[Bill Sorns]

The Bill Rodgers wrote:
> "Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in
> message news:oLUZe.1538$y43.82@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>> The Bill Rodgers wrote:
>>> "wafflycat"
>>> <waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk> wrote in
>>> message news:433833f3@news.greennet.net...
>>>>
>>>> "The Bill Rodgers" <BillDavidson@blowhard.nut> wrote in
>>>> message news:1127746562.dc23f86c35691fe0492a7789351088d8-
>>>> @teranews...
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are you a heffer too?
>>>>>
>>>> No but you are a large asshole apparently.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, helen s
>>>>
>>> I'm not that large, just extremely cute, here's my pic:
>>>
>>> http://tinypic.com/dzxjt3.jpg
>>
>>
>> OMG! Dude, get to a hospital!
>>
>> (No wonder you had to take your own picture. No one would
>> want to be within 50 feet of THOSE diseases!)
>>
>> Bill "we've got a live (sorta) one here folks" S.
>>
>> PS: What's really funny (more sad) is that you think that
>> photo is /flattering/! Nasty...
>>
>>
> alt.jealousy.isnt.pretty added just for you douchebag. Let's
> see your ugly mugg, or are you too ashamed to post it?

I'm not going to feed your wanking habit, hobbit. (Besides, if
I start insulting people and calling them "pigs" and
"heffers", THEN my appearance would be fair game.)

How'd you get in here, anyway?

Doorman! Remove this refuse. We'll all pitch in for the tip.

(Last reply to you, hateful troll. FOAD and HAND.)

[Bill Sorns]

wafflycat wrote:
> "Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in
> message news:oLUZe.1538$y43.82@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>
>> OMG! Dude, get to a hospital!
>>
>> (No wonder you had to take your own picture. No one would
>> want to be within 50 feet of THOSE diseases!)
>>
>> Bill "we've got a live (sorta) one here folks" S.
>>
>> PS: What's really funny (more sad) is that you think that
>> photo is /flattering/! Nasty...
>>
>>
>
> Don't know what the pic was of, I certainly wasn't going to
> click on a link that was offered by such an obvious w*nker.

Yeah, I donned a full-body condom AND only peeked out of one
eye before clicking.

> Hence I have kill-filed him.

Not a bad move.

> There's so many more pleasant people about it's much
> simpler to block out the offerings of liquid bovine bowel
> movements :)

You've just insulted cow and bull diarrhea!

(In AM-B we had a REAL hate-filled troll/stalker/threat-maker
named "Bob Rodgers" -- one guy actually had to get the
authorities after him -- wonder if "The Bill" is any
relation?!?)

Sad, really.

BS (not)

[Paul Hobso]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> wafflycat wrote:
>
>>"Bill Sornson" <sornospamni@san.rr.nocomspam> wrote in
>>message news:oLUZe.1538$y43.82@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>
>>>OMG! Dude, get to a hospital!
>>>
>>>(No wonder you had to take your own picture. No one would
>>>want to be within 50 feet of THOSE diseases!)
>>>
>>>Bill "we've got a live (sorta) one here folks" S.
>>>
>>>PS: What's really funny (more sad) is that you think that
>>> photo is /flattering/! Nasty...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Don't know what the pic was of, I certainly wasn't going to
>>click on a link that was offered by such an obvious w*nker.
>
>
> Yeah, I donned a full-body condom AND only peeked out of one
> eye before clicking.
>
>
>>Hence I have kill-filed him.
>
>
> Not a bad move.
>
>
>>There's so many more pleasant people about it's much
>>simpler to block out the offerings of liquid bovine bowel
>>movements :)
>
>
> You've just insulted cow and bull diarrhea!
>
> (In AM-B we had a REAL hate-filled
> troll/stalker/threat-maker named "Bob Rodgers" -- one guy
> actually had to get the authorities after him -- wonder if
> "The Bill" is any relation?!?)
>
> Sad, really.
>
> BS (not)
>

He's a strong resemblance to the rec.music.makers.percussion
troll. hmmm...

\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson Georgia Institute of Technology

[Thebillrog]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 06:18:14 -0500, "Roger Houston"
<houstonr@nasa.org> wrote:

>So, how's everyone else in the trailer park?
>

Hey Rog, having fun talking to my clone/imposter/stalker?