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kebaldwin
Wed, Sep-07-05, 08:57
Humiliation influences obese teens' depression By Charnicia E. Huggins
1 hour, 28 minutes ago



Depression is common among obese teenagers, but the association between the two may largely be explained by teens' experiences of being shamed, and other psychosocial factors, new research suggests.

"There is a clear statistical association between adolescent obesity and adolescent depression," study author Dr. Rickard L. Sjoberg, of Uppsala University in Sweden, told Reuters Health.

However, he added, "this association disappears when psychosocial factors and experiences of being treated in humiliating and degrading ways are controlled for."

Sjoberg and colleagues analyzed data from 4,703 children, aged 15 and 17 years, who participated in the Survey of Adolescent Life in Vestmanland 2004, a psychosocial health survey administered triannually in Sweden. They found that overweight and obesity was more common among boys than among girls, while depression was more common among girls.

Obese teens reported experiencing more symptoms of depression than their normal-weight or overweight peers and had a higher risk of depression, the researchers report in the journal Pediatrics.

Also, obese teens were more likely to say they had been treated in a degrading manner, had been ignored or otherwise had shaming experiences within the past three months than were their normal-weight or overweight peers.

Further, adolescents who reported the highest number of shame experiences were more than 11 times more likely to be depressed than those who reported the lowest number of shame experiences, the report indicates.

The association between obesity and major depression disappeared, however, after the researchers took into consideration the adolescents' gender, parental employment, and parental separation, the report indicates.

Teenagers with unemployed parents and those in families in which the parents were separated were more likely to have depressive symptoms than their peers. In fact, these variables predicted major depression among the study group, the researchers note, and were unrelated to the teens' weight.

Sjoberg speculated that the association between the teenagers' depression and having an unemployed parent may possibly be explained by the idea "that having a parent who has the experience of being unwanted at the labor market or incapable of meeting the demands of this market will put an increased psychological strain on the family system which will increase the risk of the adolescent developing depression."

He explained that, in Sweden, both parents are usually employed and that few mothers stay at home with their children beyond the first 18 months after birth when state funding allows one parent to stay home to care for an infant.

Altogether, the study's findings imply "that an understanding of the social consequences of obesity is also necessary in order to make sense of the obesity-depression association," Sjoberg told Reuters Health.

He and his colleagues conclude that "these results suggest that clinical treatment of obesity may sometimes not just be a matter of diet and exercise but also of dealing with issues of shame and social isolation."

SOURCE: Pediatrics, September 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050907/hl_nm/teen_depression_dc

kebaldwin
Wed, Sep-07-05, 08:57
I still think all the carbs are causing 80% of the depression. Yes, people giving fat people a hard time is not good -- but does not cause the depression.

Nancy LC
Wed, Sep-07-05, 09:15
Hmmm.... when you experience life as an overweight young female you might be able to make that sort of sweeping generalization, but until then, I think you're speaking for youself. :p

Nancy LC
Wed, Sep-07-05, 14:56
Disclaimer: I didn't spend my adolescent years being fat, some how I managed to be skinny at that time. But I know how it felt when I was being teased about being flat-chested. And I know kids who just completely withdraw into themselves because of their fatness. Somehow, skinny pretty kids seem to miss out on this whole teenage depression. Is it because they don't eat carbs? I think not.

Ayustar
Wed, Sep-07-05, 18:34
I don't know, when I was fat I was really depressed, and the food didn't help either. People teased me all the time, so I am still insecure about myself, even now. People tell me I look great but I still feel like I did then, so sometimes I still get bouts of depression.

mcsblues
Wed, Sep-07-05, 18:43
Somehow, skinny pretty kids seem to miss out on this whole teenage depression. Ummm .... talk about "sweeping generalization(s)" !! :lol:

I was skinny too (no, I don't think I ever regarded myself as "pretty" ;)), but teenage depression can stem from all manner of causes, and perhaps diet contributes to some of them. And I think you will find that even some of those who you might have regarded as skinny and pretty still had low self esteem as a result of perceived problems with their appearance.

Cheers,

Malcolm

Nancy LC
Wed, Sep-07-05, 18:50
Oh well, actually, I was thinking of the pretty, popular cheerleader types, but I suppose they've got their difficulties coping as well as everyone else... although somehow it never looked as bad as what the rest of us shlubs were going through.

ItsTheWooo
Wed, Sep-07-05, 18:55
I still think all the carbs are causing 80% of the depression. Yes, people giving fat people a hard time is not good -- but does not cause the depression.

I was treated very very badly in school as a fat kid, sorry but gonna have to disagree with you on this one. I do think carbs cause depression and make it worse. But that is on a chemical level. There is a huge difference between chemical depression (which carbs contribute to) and being depressed because when you go to school you're going to be made to feel like you aren't even human. With chemical depression (for me) you perceive everything in a different way, everything is tainted. Things that normally wouldn't bother you can defeat you, trigger feelings of hopelessness and desperation. It's hard to be motivated, to feel happy, and if you do it's fleeting and usually followed by a profound low. For me, carbs & unstable blood sugar is definitely related to this. When eating low enough carb that I never feel a smidgen of sugar problems (I can tell when I'm there judging by how interesting food is to me), I never feel that way.

There is a big difference between something like that - feeling depressed about everything for no reason - and feeling depressed for a valid reason, because something in your life is a major source of turmoil and you don't know how to resolve it. When you're in that situation you feel powerless, it's like prison. It's like, you know you have to go every single day and face them... knowing it won't ever end (in the foreseeable future anyway) is the worst part. Who wouldn't feel depressed by that? I don't care if you're on Atkins or not that is going to bum you out :D .

Also I think the two reinforce each other. When chemically depressed you are much more sensitive to perceiving bad things as being horribly bad. So if you take a fat kid, who's brain chemicals may be under the influence of carbs, and then heap on top of that depression-inducing anguish from being "the fat kid"... it's going to intensify it.

Christal
Wed, Sep-07-05, 19:06
Humiliation influences obese teens' depression

In my humble opinion, this is a huge understatement. Of course, I can not speak for all fat children on the earth and I fully recognize that. However, as a fat child, a fat pre-adolescent, a fat adolescent, and a still-battling-fat adult who was shamed, humiliated, persecuted, and bullied from the first day of kindergarten through my freshman year of high school, I can say with ABSOLUTE certainty that humiliation DID -- at the very LEAST -- influence MY depression. I still battle those feelings/memories to this very day and I still suffer from depression connected directly to those earlier life experiences.

I am thrilled that there are people out there who somehow managed to avoid having that happen to them. That is wonderful to know. Unfortunately, I was not among them.

ItsTheWooo
Wed, Sep-07-05, 19:18
In my humble opinion, this is a huge understatement. Of course, I can not speak for all fat children on the earth and I fully recognize that. However, as a fat child, a fat pre-adolescent, a fat adolescent, and a still-battling-fat adult who was shamed, humiliated, persecuted, and bullied from the first day of kindergarten through my freshman year of high school, I can say with ABSOLUTE certainty that humiliation DID -- at the very LEAST -- influence MY depression. I still battle those feelings/memories to this very day and I still suffer from depression connected directly to those earlier life experiences.

I am thrilled that there are people out there who somehow managed to avoid having that happen to them. That is wonderful to know. Unfortunately, I was not among them.

I totally share this sentiment. I am fortunate as for me the humiliation didn't start till I was like 9 and moved to a smaller, predominantly white city. The pain still affects me and in a lot of ways it's made me who I am. I don't think I would have gotten as fat as I did (and as thin as I am now) if I didn't experience it. I wouldn't have the social anxiety I had (I became reclusive for awhile). Even now I still have mild social anxiety.
I think if you're an obese female it's much worse. There were plenty of fat or chubby boys who were well accepted even popular, but never a fat or chubby girl and definitely not an obese one. I bet lots of guys here were chubby boys and they didn't get teased too bad about it but I don't think you would find a single girl who could say the same.