Proving Stonethrowing theory and that stonethrowing preceded bipedalism; genetic marker in male DNA

[A Plutoniu]

Today I was doing a little experiment of teaching my 5 Manx
kittens to climb a tree. My previous cat was a female that
farmed every tree in the in the vicinity for young birds to
eat. So I decided to see if I can train these 5 kittens to
climb trees and to see whether they like the experience. So I
put a electric extension cord in the upper limb and baited the
end with a slice of salami tied to a string. Salami is their
favorite food. So I tie a slice of salami and gradually hoist
it up the tree as the kitten/s is trying to vie for the slice.
Sometimes I could get 3 kittens vying for the same slice and I
could get them about 10 feet up the tree. Most of them ate the
slice while still hanging on the tree by their claws.

But this experiment left me with something learned also. I was
thinking of why the males did not climb the tree and only the
females. Now I realize that both male and female cats can
climb trees but it seems as though only the females really
relish climbing. Perhaps it is the smaller size of females
that they like climbing. But what I then thought about was
stonethrowing compared to bipedalism.

If my theory of Stonethrowing is true then stonethrowing came
first and later created bipedalism. But the genetics of
Stonethrowing would favor one sex over another sex, just as
climbing trees favors female cats more than it favors male
cats. And the genetics for the behaviour of throwing or of
running differences between male and female would be found in
the X and Y sex chromosomes.

Now then, let us compare the differences between modern human
male and female per their ability to throw and to run. If the
Stonethrowing theory is correct that it preceded bipedalism
then this difference in throwing between male and female
should be a greater difference than the difference in running.
On the other hand if bipedalism came first before throwing
then the differences between male to female should show a
larger disparity in running than throwing for male to female.

In sports of the Olympics, the running ability of top female
athletes compared to top male athletes is less of a difference
than is the difference in throwing sports. A top male athlete
can throw a fast ball about 33% faster than a female.

But the science proof of Stonethrowing theory and that
throwing created bipedalism should be found in the X
chromosomes of males and the favoring of throwing bones and
muscles for which the female chromosomes do not favor that
throwing ability. The disparity in running between male and
female should be found in genetics also, but the disparity in
throwing in male to female should be larger of a disparity
then that of running. And finally, if the genetics of throwing
can be pinpointed in the human genome and thence we can find
the genetics for running/walking and if those throwing
genetics are more fundamental or basic than walking/running
would prove the Stonethrowing theory.

The analogy can be drawn from cats in that the female cat has
genetics that favor climbing trees whereas the male cat is not
prone to climb trees.

Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[Barry]

a_plutonium@hotmail.com wrote:

> If my theory of Stonethrowing is true then stonethrowing
> came first and later created bipedalism. But the genetics of
> Stonethrowing would favor one sex over another sex, just as
> climbing trees favors female cats more than it favors male
> cats. And the genetics for the behaviour of throwing or of
> running differences between male and female would be found
> in the X and Y sex chromosomes.
>
> Now then, let us compare the differences between modern
> human male and female per their ability to throw and to
> run. If the Stonethrowing theory is correct that it
> preceded bipedalism then this difference in throwing
> between male and female should be a greater difference than
> the difference in running. On the other hand if bipedalism
> came first before throwing then the differences between
> male to female should show a larger disparity in running
> than throwing for male to female.

Not to be nitpicky, but you went from claiming that the
stonethrowing theory is your theory to calling it "the"
theory. Coupled with the fact that there's a bunch of
unexplained statements in the portion I quoted, I felt like
you're trying to trick us into believing something. I stopped
reading after the quoted part.

[A Plutoniu]

Jois wrote:

Have you checked to see what kinds of genes exist on the Y
chromosome? IIRC nothing on the Y chromosome seems to be
related to behaviour or arm strength or bipedalism. Does it
have anything to do with muscles or bones? Bones and muscles
are the kinds of things that would make one sex better at an
activity than the other.

Wouldn't you have to establish this first, before going on to
something else?

Jois

Would not have to establish that for it is commonsense that
male chromosomes enhance certain muscles and bones of males
over females.

The only thing that has to be established is the specific
A,C,T,G that allows males to throw 33% faster than females.
Once we get the A,C,G,T code that allows for throwing, then we
simply find the ACTG code that codes for bipedalism. Once we
find the code for bipedalism, we simply check to see whether
bipedalism is embedded within throwing. Embedded or a subset
of throwing implies that throwing is the basic foundation and
created bipedalism. Throwing is primary and bipedalism is
secondary.

A different proof is to show a signature bone or muscle such
as the Rotator Cuff and that it is primary and dates further
back than does the signature bones of bipedalism.

Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[A Plutoniu]

The logic of my argument rests mostly on the male X chromosome
and how the X chromosome enhances muscle and bone of Rotator
Cuff for throwing and femur groove for bipedalism.

Since male humans are faster at running and faster and more
efficient at throwing then there is some coding of this
enhancement on the X chromosome. The YY compliment for females
would produce a Rotator Cuff and a femur groove as well as the
YX result, however, there must be something on the X
chromosome that enhances the Rotator Cuff and femur groove
that makes the male more efficient in throwing and running.
And according to the Stonethrowing theory, the enhancement for
the Rotator Cuff is many million years older than the femur
groove because Throwing created bipedalism.

Now one can argue that the male hormones enhance all the bones
and muscles more than the female hormones. If that is the
case, then it will not prove the Stonethrowing theory. And I
would have to look for a different proof procedure.

Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[A Plutoniu]

But I think I can eliminate the hormone argument.

Consider the birth of the behaviour of Stonethrowing and allow
me to assume it was a male member. So this is the world's
first Stonethrowing primate which in about 8 million to 10
million years in the future would be humanity.

I can further assume that the males and females of this
stonethrowing individual had different hormones. And it was
not the hormones that created the superior rotator cuff to
allow for this new behaviour but it was some mutation in that
individual that would eventually become the superior rotator
cuff. A mutation of the A,C,T,G coding.

Otherwise we would have to say that hormones are muscle
specific or bone specific or organ specific and the mutation
is in the hormonal system itself. But that is obviously false.

Another way of saying it is that if it is hormonal then the
behaviour of throwing or bipedalism would be confined to the
sex in which it first appeared some 8 million years ago and
there would be a huge difference in throwing and running
between males to females.

So this suggests that the behaviour of Throwing and later that
of bipedalism was due to small genetic mutations in the
A,C,T,G so that although both male and female have Rotator
Cuffs and have femur grooves, the DNA sequence for males of
the Rotator Cuff and femur groove is different in human males
compared to human females. Hormones can enhance the difference
but the difference exists in the coding of the A,C,T,G.

So when the femur groove coding is found and when the Rotator
Cuff coding is found they should have small differences in
male to female.

Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[Jois]

"Barry" <barry@polisource.com> wrote in message
news:1125297752.435008.34530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> a_plutonium@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > If my theory of Stonethrowing is true then stonethrowing
> > came first and later created bipedalism. But the genetics
> > of Stonethrowing would favor one sex over another sex,
> > just as climbing trees favors female cats more than it
> > favors male cats. And the genetics for the behaviour of
> > throwing or of running differences between male and female
> > would be found in the X and Y sex chromosomes.
> >
[snip]

Have you checked to see what kinds of genes exist on the Y
chromosome? IIRC nothing on the Y chromosome seems to be
related to behaviour or arm strength or bipedalism. Does it
have anything to do with muscles or bones? Bones and muscles
are the kinds of things that would make one sex better at an
activity than the other.

Wouldn't you have to establish this first, before going on to
something else?

Jois

[Jois]

<a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125334274.067513.288540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Jois wrote:
>
> Have you checked to see what kinds of genes exist on the Y
> chromosome? IIRC nothing on the Y chromosome seems to be
> related to behaviour or arm strength or bipedalism. Does it
> have anything to do with muscles or bones? Bones and muscles
> are the kinds of things that would make one sex better at an
> activity than the other.
>
> Wouldn't you have to establish this first, before going on
> to something else?
>
> Jois
>
> Would not have to establish that for it is commonsense that
> male chromosomes enhance certain muscles and bones of males
> over females.
>
[snip]

I understood that the Y chromosome contained next to nothing,
certainly nothing to brag about, so it doesn't seem
commonsense that there is much room for enhancing much of
anything in there. Seems like the foundation of you idea isn't
very supportive.

Jois

[A Plutoniu]

I often seed some of my posts with a obvious minor error,
such as the above where I mix up female X with male Y
chromosomes. I do this to bring in more discussion. However,
I did the mix up because I have the suspicion that the X
chromosome carries the improvement of the Rotator Cuff and
the femur groove. As one writer already noted that the Y
chromosome carries little A,C,T,G coding but the X chromosome
carries alot of A,C,T,G coding.

So the mutation of genes some 8 to 10 million years ago that
produced a prehuman individual that had a likening or
disposition to throw rocks and stones, was probably on the X
chromosome where the mutation arose.

So I need some research facility such as the Max Planck
genetics labs to compare the genome sequence of Chimpanzee to
that of human genome to localize the A,C,T,G that codes for
Rotator Cuff and femur groove. I have the hunch it is found,
in part, on the X chromosome. Perhaps not all of the coding
for Rotator Cuff and femur groove is found on the X
chromosome, but a portion of the coding that governs the
development of the Rotator Cuff and femur groove is found on
the X chromosome.

Once we find the A,C,T,G for the Rotator Cuff and femur
groove we will answer the Stonethrowing theory and by
answering that, we probably will have finished the bulk of
the work of what is called the science of anthropology.
Because if the Stonethrowing theory is correct then I would
estimate that 90% of the science of anthropology is over with
and ended as a science.

Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[bae]

In article
<1125386728.819446.207890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote:
>The logic of my argument rests mostly on the male X
>chromosome and how the X chromosome enhances muscle and bone
>of Rotator Cuff for throwing and femur groove for bipedalism.

Well, female mammals are XX and male mammals are XY. The Y
chromosome contains only a few genes. So much for what your
argument rests on.

>Since male humans are faster at running and faster and more
>efficient at throwing then there is some coding of this
>enhancement on the X chromosome. The YY compliment for
>females would produce a Rotator Cuff and a femur groove as
>well as the YX result, however, there must be something on
>the X chromosome that enhances the Rotator Cuff and femur
>groove that makes the male more efficient in throwing and
>running. And according to the Stonethrowing theory, the
>enhancement for the Rotator Cuff is many million years older
>than the femur groove because Throwing created bipedalism.

Male humans have a higher center of gravity, a narrower pelvis
and longer arms and legs. Male hormones enhance muscle
development. This helps with running and throwing.

You can argue just as well that bipedalism was "created" by
the usefulness of being able to carry big-brained infants
that are born too undeveloped and weak to hang onto their
mothers' backs, like infant monkeys do. Or the advantage of
being able to haul home baskets of roots and berries and
chunks of carrion.

Personally, I like the theory that bipedalism derives from a
littoral lifestyle with a lot of foraging for shellfish in
shallow water (the aquatic ape theory). But I know I'm
merely a dilettante, and my opinions in the matter are not
of much value.

>Now one can argue that the male hormones enhance all the
>bones and muscles more than the female hormones. If that is
>the case, then it will not prove the Stonethrowing theory.
>And I would have to look for a different proof procedure.

Right. Somehow, I don't think you'll let facts bother you, nor
the possibility that your theory is wrong.

I must have had too much coffee today. I find myself
answering this man.

[Barry]

I don't know anything about this stuff, but here's my theory.
Stone throwing doesn't win a fight. You might as well just
yell at your enemy. We would have found large piles of stones
in areas where our four legged predecessors lived by now if
they threw stones. If they didn't gather stones, I don't think
they'd find stones of the right size so easily, especially not
in trees. Do today's apes throw stones enough to consider them
stone throwers? If they do, then ignore my theory. I'm talking
about significant stone throwing.

I believe that the four leggers got smart for some reason and
didn't have to worry as much about predators, so they didn't
have to be large and didn't need four legs to support their
weight. That might not apply here though, because we didn't
directly evolve from large animals, but the four Leggers also
didn't need to hide in trees, so they didn't have to be built
to climb or crawl on four legs.

Throwing only became a significant advantage when we started
making spears, and I doubt that there's evidence that four
Leggers made spears.

But paleontology and evolutionary studies is a waste anyway.
Let the creationists have their way and don't teach
evolution OR any creationist theory. More shop classes would
be more useful.

[Jois]

<a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125423677.934483.210590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I often seed some of my posts with a obvious minor error,
> such as the above where I mix up female X with male Y
> chromosomes. I do this to bring in more discussion. However,
> I did the mix up because I have the suspicion that the X
> chromosome carries the improvement of the Rotator Cuff and
> the femur groove. As one writer already noted that the Y
> chromosome carries little A,C,T,G coding but the X
> chromosome carries alot of A,C,T,G coding.
>
[snip] .
>
> So I need some research facility such as the Max Planck
> genetics labs to compare the genome sequence of Chimpanzee
> to that of human genome to localize the A,C,T,G that codes
> for Rotator Cuff and femur groove. I have the hunch it is
> found, in part, on the X chromosome.

[snip]

> Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
> Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
> electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
>

Seems to be a problem or two here. Making boo-boos in your pet
theory isn't a good way to attract scientific researchers or
grant money and hoping some research facility will find your
theory on the internet and plunge thousands or millions into
proving your theory, well, you might as well make that hope
into a wish when you blow out your next set of birthday
candles. The best way to get this kind of work done is to save
up a lot of money and fund the grand yourself. You could take
out a large insurance policy and specify that your grant would
receive the proceeds of the policy upon your death.

You might also check on the locations of the rotator cuff and
femur groove before you contact your insurance agent.

Jois

[A Plutoniu]

Jois wrote:
> <a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1125423677.-
> 934483.210590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I often seed some of my posts with a obvious minor error,
> > such as the above where I mix up female X with male Y
> > chromosomes. I do this to bring in more discussion.
> > However, I did the mix up because I have the suspicion
> > that the X chromosome carries the improvement of the
> > Rotator Cuff and the femur groove. As one writer already
> > noted that the Y chromosome carries little A,C,T,G coding
> > but the X chromosome carries alot of A,C,T,G coding.
> >
> [snip] .
> >
> > So I need some research facility such as the Max Planck
> > genetics labs to compare the genome sequence of Chimpanzee
> > to that of human genome to localize the A,C,T,G that codes
> > for Rotator Cuff and femur groove. I have the hunch it is
> > found, in part, on the X chromosome.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
> > Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
> > electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
> >
>
> Seems to be a problem or two here. Making boo-boos in your
> pet theory isn't a good way to attract scientific
> researchers or grant money and hoping some research facility
> will find your theory on the internet and plunge thousands
> or millions into proving your theory, well, you might as
> well make that hope into a wish when you blow out your next
> set of birthday candles. The best way to get this kind of
> work done is to save up a lot of money and fund the grand
> yourself. You could take out a large insurance policy and
> specify that your grant would receive the proceeds of the
> policy upon your death.
>
> You might also check on the locations of the rotator cuff
> and femur groove before you contact your insurance agent.
>
> Jois

You have such a low opinion of science and such a commercial
opinion of science that I hope you are not in science itself.

There is already research underway regarding the truth of the
Stonethrowing theory. Not just the more accurate anthropology
dig sites such as the Pickford Orrorin site where they
sloppily overlooked the rocks and stones associated with
Orrorin, but rather, indubitable genetic proof that genetics
of treeliving by primates turns into genetical throwing by
these primates which later becomes bipedalism. Truth does not
go begging for smart people to research it, truth goes
busting and barging forth, like a burst dam of water goes
lashing forth.

Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire
Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[Rmacfarl]

Jois wrote:
> <a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1125504197.-
> 780998.287940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Jois wrote:
> > > <a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1125423-
> > > 677.934483.210590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > I often seed some of my posts with a obvious minor
> > > > error, such as the above where I mix up female X with
> > > > male Y chromosomes. I do this to bring in more
> > > > discussion. However, I did the mix up because I have
> the
> > > > suspicion that the X chromosome carries the
> > > > improvement of the Rotator Cuff and the femur groove.
> > > > As one writer already noted that the Y chromosome
> > > > carries little A,C,T,G coding but the X chromosome
> > > > carries alot of A,C,T,G coding.
> > > >
> > > [snip] .
> > > >
> > > > So I need some research facility such as the Max
> > > > Planck genetics labs to compare the genome sequence of
> > > > Chimpanzee to that of human genome
> to
> > > > localize the A,C,T,G that codes for Rotator Cuff and
> > > > femur groove. I have the hunch it is found, in part,
> > > > on the X chromosome.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole
> > > > entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
> > > > electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
> > > >
> > >
> > > Seems to be a problem or two here. Making boo-boos in
> > > your pet theory
> isn't
> > > a good way to attract scientific researchers or grant
> > > money and hoping
> some
> > > research facility will find your theory on the internet
> > > and plunge thousands or millions into proving your
> > > theory, well, you might as well
> make
> > > that hope into a wish when you blow out your next set of
> > > birthday
> candles.
> > > The best way to get this kind of work done is to save up
> > > a lot of money
> and
> > > fund the grand yourself. You could take out a large
> > > insurance policy
> and
> > > specify that your grant would receive the proceeds of
> > > the policy upon
> your
> > > death.
> > >
> > > You might also check on the locations of the rotator
> > > cuff and femur
> groove
> > > before you contact your insurance agent.
> > >
> > > Jois
> >
> > You have such a low opinion of science and such a
> > commercial opinion of science that I hope you are not in
> > science itself.
>
> Pish.
>
> >
> > There is already research underway regarding the truth of
> > the Stonethrowing theory. Not just the more accurate
> > anthropology dig sites such as the Pickford Orrorin site
> > where they sloppily overlooked the rocks and stones
> > associated with Orrorin, but rather, indubitable genetic
> > proof that genetics of treeliving by primates turns into
> > genetical throwing by these primates which later becomes
> > bipedalism.
>
> What are you fussing about then? Why did you say, " So I
> need some research facility such as the Max Planck genetics
> labs to compare the genome sequence of Chimpanzee to that of
> human genome . . .."
>
>
> > Truth does not go begging for smart people to research it,
> > truth goes busting and barging forth, like a burst dam of
> > water goes lashing forth.
>
> Have you met Algis? Marco? Pauline? Richard? You can't just
> spout off about your own ideas but you need to read ideas of
> others, too.
> >
> > Archimedes Plutonium
>
> Wasn't Archimedes an owl?

Hey Archi, exactly what is it about you that makes you think
you've got something of value to contribute to the science of
human evolution? Do you actually have any formal training in
paleoanthropology, physical anthropology, archaeology,
genetics? Or did you just dream all this nonsense up?

Why should we believe that you are anything more than what you
appear: a common-or-garden netloon with a slippery-slope
hypothesis based on a whole series of half-baked suspicions,
suppositions and syllogisms that have no concrete basis in
fact or evidence (as they seem)?

Yours fraternally,

Ross Macfarlane

[dcholiman]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barry,

Use your common sense. You are walking along and a large
growling dog with fangs appears. You know you cannot run fast
enough to beat him/her to the nearest tree. So you look for
either a stick object or a rock object.

If you stoop or squat like a knuckle walker, you can't aim
properly or throw properly or swing the stick well. This is
the moment in pre-history that bi-pedalism was selected
for. You say that throwing stones was not an effective
defense. Study the dog's behavior. If you even LOOK like
you have an object in your hand, the dog flees. If you even
PRETEND a throwing motion, the dog flees. This predator is
already selected for survival responses to these human
physiological actions.

Use your old bean, Youngblood. You don't need to be hit with a
rock more than once to know that this weapon system is painful
and deadly.

[Barry]

dcholiman@ev1.net wrote:

> If you stoop or squat like a knuckle walker, you can't aim
> properly or throw properly or swing the stick well.

For humans and four legged animals, the arms and legs
naturally point downward, so it would take the same amount of
rotation to throw, but I do realize that if I usually walked
on all fours, I'd be at a disadvantage if I had to use my
front legs to throw.

> You say that throwing stones was not an effective defense.
> Study the dog's behavior. If you even LOOK like you have an
> object in your hand, the dog flees. If you even PRETEND a
> throwing motion, the dog flees. This predator is already
> selected for survival responses to these human physiological
> actions.

Snarling and pretending to lunge have similar effects without
requiring the evolution of different physiology.

[Barry]

dcholiman@ev1.net wrote:

> If you even LOOK like you have an object in your hand, the
> dog flees. If you even PRETEND a throwing motion, the dog
> flees. This predator is already selected for survival
> responses to these human physiological actions.

I think that's true only if that particular dog has
experienced being beaten with an object in someone's hand.
Otherwise, the dog is probably running away from a moving
person without regard to the object in his hand. If the object
makes the person look larger, then the dog might percieve the
person as being larger.

I don't believe that any animal evolved to fear an indication
of a stone in a person's or animal's hand due to stone
throwers having stoned to death animals who didn't fear it.

Spear throwing is more effective, but spears for throwing take
intelligence to make. I think spears were used as hand-held
weapons, made of broken branches, before throwing weapons. No
four legger ever made a throwing spear.

[Jois]

<a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125504197.780998.287940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Jois wrote:
> > <a_plutonium@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:112542367-
> > 7.934483.210590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > I often seed some of my posts with a obvious minor
> > > error, such as the above where I mix up female X with
> > > male Y chromosomes. I do this to bring in more
> > > discussion. However, I did the mix up because I have
the
> > > suspicion that the X chromosome carries the improvement
> > > of the Rotator Cuff and the femur groove. As one writer
> > > already noted that the Y chromosome carries little
> > > A,C,T,G coding but the X chromosome carries alot of
> > > A,C,T,G coding.
> > >
> > [snip] .
> > >
> > > So I need some research facility such as the Max Planck
> > > genetics labs to compare the genome sequence of
> > > Chimpanzee to that of human genome
to
> > > localize the A,C,T,G that codes for Rotator Cuff and
> > > femur groove. I have the hunch it is found, in part, on
> > > the X chromosome.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole
> > > entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the
> > > electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
> > >
> >
> > Seems to be a problem or two here. Making boo-boos in your
> > pet theory
isn't
> > a good way to attract scientific researchers or grant
> > money and hoping
some
> > research facility will find your theory on the internet
> > and plunge thousands or millions into proving your theory,
> > well, you might as well
make
> > that hope into a wish when you blow out your next set of
> > birthday
candles.
> > The best way to get this kind of work done is to save up a
> > lot of money
and
> > fund the grand yourself. You could take out a large
> > insurance policy
and
> > specify that your grant would receive the proceeds of the
> > policy upon
your
> > death.
> >
> > You might also check on the locations of the rotator cuff
> > and femur
groove
> > before you contact your insurance agent.
> >
> > Jois
>
> You have such a low opinion of science and such a
> commercial opinion of science that I hope you are not in
> science itself.

Pish.

>
> There is already research underway regarding the truth of
> the Stonethrowing theory. Not just the more accurate
> anthropology dig sites such as the Pickford Orrorin site
> where they sloppily overlooked the rocks and stones
> associated with Orrorin, but rather, indubitable genetic
> proof that genetics of treeliving by primates turns into
> genetical throwing by these primates which later becomes
> bipedalism.

What are you fussing about then? Why did you say, " So I need
some research facility such as the Max Planck genetics labs to
compare the genome sequence of Chimpanzee to that of human
genome . . .."

> Truth does not go begging for smart people to research it,
> truth goes busting and barging forth, like a burst dam of
> water goes lashing forth.

Have you met Algis? Marco? Pauline? Richard? You can't just
spout off about your own ideas but you need to read ideas of
others, too.
>
> Archimedes Plutonium

Wasn't Archimedes an owl?

Jois

[dcholiman]

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I see your point. The dog's behavioral reaction could be
learned and not gene coded. David H ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`