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Nick
Thu, Aug-25-05, 05:50
But it is supposed to make it itself. The blood cholesterol
molecule is to big to pass the blood brain barrier. So the
glial cells make the cholesterol in the brain.

The article can be found at:
http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/24/cholesterol.htm

Mr-Natural
Fri, Aug-26-05, 05:48
Nick wrote:
> But it is supposed to make it itself. The blood cholesterol
> molecule is to big to pass the blood brain barrier. So the
> glial cells make the cholesterol in the brain.

No kidding, and so what?

Nick
Fri, Aug-26-05, 05:48
Right on cubit.

I would want to explore that. Saturated fat is the precursor
to cholesterol in the blood. I supose that is true for the
brain as well.

Anybody want to correct me?

Cubit
Fri, Aug-26-05, 05:48
So, I guess one should make sure the diet contains the
precursors to cholesterol.

"Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com>
wrote in message
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>
> Nick wrote:
> > But it is supposed to make it itself. The blood
> > cholesterol molecule is to big to pass the blood brain
> > barrier. So the glial cells make the cholesterol in the
> > brain.
>
> No kidding, and so what?

Mmu
Fri, Aug-26-05, 05:48
"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Right on cubit.
>
> I would want to explore that. Saturated fat is the precursor
> to cholesterol in the blood. I supose that is true for the
> brain as well.
>
> Anybody want to correct me?
>

yes, I do. the precursor to cholesterol is (2 units)
acetyl-coenzyme A, not "saturated fat". AcCoA originates out
of ANY kind of fat ("beta-oxidation") and out of glucose
("krebs cycle").

I seriously doubt there is cholesterol deficiency in a healthy
human being living in an industrialized country.

Dr. Dickie
Fri, Aug-26-05, 05:48
"MMu" <brilhasti@gmx.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1-
> 125014957.380278.75600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Right on cubit.
> >
> > I would want to explore that. Saturated fat is the
> > precursor to cholesterol in the blood. I supose that is
> > true for the brain as well.
> >
> > Anybody want to correct me?
> >
>
> yes, I do. the precursor to cholesterol is (2 units)
> acetyl-coenzyme A, not
"saturated
> fat". AcCoA originates out of ANY kind of fat
> ("beta-oxidation") and out of glucose ("krebs cycle").
>
> I seriously doubt there is cholesterol deficiency in a
> healthy human being living in an industrialized country.
>
>

He is thinking about the fact that saturated fat "elevates"
cholesterol levels in the blood. And the research I saw showed
that was only true for chain lengths shorter than palmitic.
Stearic and longer had no effect. Although, there had not been
a lot of good research into this (last I looked several years
ago). Maybe something new has come along.

--
Dr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
Poking kooks with a pointy stick

Mr-Natural
Sat, Aug-27-05, 16:39
Dr. Dickie wrote:

> > > I would want to explore that. Saturated fat is the
> > > precursor to cholesterol in the blood. I supose that is
> > > true for the brain as well.

> He is thinking about the fact that saturated fat "elevates"
> cholesterol levels in the blood.

What these clowns are trying to do is suggest that all SFAs
are good for you because the brain needs them to make
cholesterol.

Sorry, but they are still a bunch of idiots in my book.

> And the research I saw showed that was only true for chain
> lengths shorter than palmitic. Stearic and longer had no
> effect. Although, there had not been a lot of good research
> into this (last I looked several years ago). Maybe something
> new has come along.

In the real world, the devil is in the details. SFAs can be
broken into many different sub categories. Unless you want to
live off of coconut oil, you really don't have too many
options when it comes to SFAs.

When will these clowns start talking about "free range" beef?

Sbharris-L
Sat, Aug-27-05, 16:39
MMu wrote:
> "Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1-
> 125014957.380278.75600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Right on cubit.
> >
> > I would want to explore that. Saturated fat is the
> > precursor to cholesterol in the blood. I supose that is
> > true for the brain as well.
> >
> > Anybody want to correct me?
> >
>
> yes, I do. the precursor to cholesterol is (2 units)
> acetyl-coenzyme A, not "saturated fat". AcCoA originates out
> of ANY kind of fat ("beta-oxidation") and out of glucose
> ("krebs cycle").
>
> I seriously doubt there is cholesterol deficiency in a
> healthy human being living in an industrialized country.

COMMENT:

CORRECT. The dietary precursor to cholesterol is either fat,
carbohydrate or protein. :) Which is to say, calories. This
means the only people with really low cholesterols in their
blood are slowly starving to death, like some people with
cancer, or some of the rural Chinese with cholesterols of 90
in the China Study. Who had a very much higher infection death
rate--- surprise..

SBH

Nick
Sun, Aug-28-05, 05:35
Where does the AcCoA come from then MU?

Sbharris-L
Sun, Aug-28-05, 05:35
Nick wrote:
> Where does the AcCoA come from then MU?

He said from fat or glucose. And I add that either one of
these can be made from protein. So basically, the answer is:
from calories. As I said.

Nick
Sun, Aug-28-05, 05:35
Thankyou. I must have overlooked what he said.

Calories? That is good to know.

Robert
Sun, Aug-28-05, 05:35
"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
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>
> MMu wrote:
> > "Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news-
> > :1125014957.380278.75600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > > Right on cubit.
> > >
> > > I would want to explore that. Saturated fat is the
> > > precursor to cholesterol in the blood. I supose that is
> > > true for the brain as well.
> > >
> > > Anybody want to correct me?
> > >
> >
> > yes, I do. the precursor to cholesterol is (2 units)
> > acetyl-coenzyme A, not
"saturated
> > fat". AcCoA originates out of ANY kind of fat
> > ("beta-oxidation") and out of glucose ("krebs cycle").
> >
> > I seriously doubt there is cholesterol deficiency in a
> > healthy human
being
> > living in an industrialized country.
>
> COMMENT:
>
> CORRECT. The dietary precursor to cholesterol is either fat,
> carbohydrate or protein. :) Which is to say, calories. This
> means the only people with really low cholesterols in their
> blood are slowly starving to death, like some people with
> cancer, or some of the rural Chinese with cholesterols of 90
> in the China Study. Who had a very much higher infection
> death rate--- surprise..
>
> SBH
>
That's true and people starving think they are doing a great
job with their cholesterol reduction. They ignore the fact
that essential nutrients are being denied and not just
cholesterol is being impacted.

Mirek Fidl
Sun, Aug-28-05, 05:35
> In the real world, the devil is in the details. SFAs can be
> broken into many different sub categories. Unless you want
> to live off of coconut oil, you really don't have too many
> options when it comes to SFAs.

Well, considering details... Coconut oil will raise your TC
level high as it is composed mainly from short chain SFAs.

Mirek