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Robert
Thu, Aug-25-05, 06:50
This one's for Nick and others who like to blame doctors for
everything including what they should put in their mouths.

New Hampshire Doctor Outraged By Complaint

ROCHESTER, N.H. -- The New Hampshire attorney general is
investigating a Rochester doctor because a patient complained
that he bluntly told her she needed to lose weight.

Dr. Terry Bennett said that he's outraged by what he calls a
baseless complaint. A patient was apparently insulted when
Bennett told her that she was obese and could only get
healthier by losing weight.

"It's an epidemic in the United States, and it's croaking us,"
Bennett said.

Bennett said that it's a lecture he gives to many of his
overweight patients.

"It's your weight, ... and there's dozens of programs,"
Bennett said. "You don't have to come in here. You can join
Jenny Craig. You can go see Weight Watchers."

Bennett said he tells obese patients that their weight is bad
for their health and their love lives. But the lecture drove
one patient to write a letter to the Board of Medicine, which
has passed on the complaint to the Attorney General's Office.

"Did I sleep with somebody? Did I give somebody drugs? Was I
careless? No. End of story," Bennett said. "That should have
been the end of it."

Now, other overweight patients are coming to Bennett's
defense.

"What really makes me angry is he told the truth," patient
Mindy Haney said. "How can you punish somebody for that?"

Haney said that Bennett has helped her lose more than 150
pounds, but, at first, she didn't want to listen.

"I have been in this lady's shoes. I've been angry and left
his practice. I mean, in-my-car-taking-off angry," Haney said.
"But once you think about it, you're angry at yourself, not
Dr. Bennett. He's the messenger. He's telling you what you
already know."

Haney is so upset at the complaint that she has started a
petition demanding that the attorney general be fired. So far,
she's gathered 100 signatures.

Bennett said that the Attorney General's Office tried to get
him to settle the matter by agreeing to attend a medical
education course, which he refused.

"I'm sorry," Bennett said. "If she's watching, I'm devoutly
sorry to have offended you. I didn't mean to offend you. I
meant to tell you the truth. And that's what I tried to do."

The Board of Medicine would not comment on the case, but
Vice President Kevin Costin said, "Physicians have to be
professional with patients and remember everyone is an
individual. You should not be inflammatory or degrading
to anyone."

Bennett said that he thinks his apology should be enough.

Cubit
Thu, Aug-25-05, 06:50
Having once been 320 lbs., I feel I'm keen to these issues.
While I would have an employer castrated for saying these
things, it seems just appropriate honesty by the doctor. The
doctor's office is the one place where you need to be reminded
of the importance of restoring normal weight.

(I now weigh: 153.9)

"Robert" <Robertitsme@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:XrudnUH12YFdUZHeRVn-vA@got.net...
> This one's for Nick and others who like to blame doctors for
> everything including what they should put in their mouths.
>
> New Hampshire Doctor Outraged By Complaint
>
> ROCHESTER, N.H. -- The New Hampshire attorney general is
> investigating a Rochester doctor because a patient
> complained that he bluntly told her she needed to lose
> weight.
>
> Dr. Terry Bennett said that he's outraged by what he calls a
> baseless complaint. A patient was apparently insulted
> when Bennett told her that
she
> was obese and could only get healthier by losing weight.
>
> "It's an epidemic in the United States, and it's croaking
> us," Bennett
said.
>
> Bennett said that it's a lecture he gives to many of his
> overweight patients.
>
> "It's your weight, ... and there's dozens of programs,"
> Bennett said. "You don't have to come in here. You can join
> Jenny Craig. You can go see
Weight
> Watchers."
>
> Bennett said he tells obese patients that their weight is
> bad for their health and their love lives. But the lecture
> drove one patient to write a letter to the Board of
> Medicine, which has passed on the complaint to the Attorney
> General's Office.
>
> "Did I sleep with somebody? Did I give somebody drugs? Was I
> careless? No. End of story," Bennett said. "That should have
> been the end of it."
>
> Now, other overweight patients are coming to Bennett's
> defense.
>
> "What really makes me angry is he told the truth," patient
> Mindy Haney
said.
> "How can you punish somebody for that?"
>
> Haney said that Bennett has helped her lose more than 150
> pounds, but, at first, she didn't want to listen.
>
> "I have been in this lady's shoes. I've been angry and left
> his practice.
I
> mean, in-my-car-taking-off angry," Haney said. "But once you
> think about
it,
> you're angry at yourself, not Dr. Bennett. He's the
> messenger. He's
telling
> you what you already know."
>
> Haney is so upset at the complaint that she has started a
> petition
demanding
> that the attorney general be fired. So far, she's gathered
> 100 signatures.
>
> Bennett said that the Attorney General's Office tried to get
> him to settle the matter by agreeing to attend a medical
> education course, which he refused.
>
> "I'm sorry," Bennett said. "If she's watching, I'm devoutly
> sorry to have offended you. I didn't mean to offend you. I
> meant to tell you the truth. And that's what I tried to do."
>
> The Board of Medicine would not comment on the case, but
> Vice President Kevin Costin said, "Physicians have to be
> professional with patients and remember everyone is an
> individual. You should not be inflammatory or degrading to
> anyone."
>
> Bennett said that he thinks his apology should be enough.
>

Mr-Natural
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
Cubit wrote:

> Having once been 320 lbs., I feel I'm keen to these
> issues. While I would have an employer castrated for
> saying these things,

I wouldn't and I don't midn saying so, either.

All 300+ pounders should be terminated from their jobs for
setting a bad example for their co-workers.

Just thought that you might want to know.

Tc
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
Cubit wrote:
> I believe many companies find excuses to get rid of those
> who are significantly overweight.
>
> Unless you are a computer programmer, job hunting at 300
> pounds is almost pointless.
>
> Oddly, I gather some companies are more likely to hire a
> computer programmer that is obese, than one that is fit.

Out of a dozen computer programmers that I work with daily,
only one is overweight, and only by maybe 30 lbs. Careful with
the assumptions and stereotypes.

TC

Tc
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
TC wrote:
> Cubit wrote:
> > I believe many companies find excuses to get rid of those
> > who are significantly overweight.
> >
> > Unless you are a computer programmer, job hunting at 300
> > pounds is almost pointless.
> >
> > Oddly, I gather some companies are more likely to hire a
> > computer programmer that is obese, than one that is fit.
>
> Out of a dozen computer programmers that I work with daily,
> only one is overweight, and only by maybe 30 lbs. Careful
> with the assumptions and stereotypes.
>
> TC

Oh yeah and the heavy guy refuses to accept the low-carb
concept as anything other than quackery.

TC

Pickle-Hea
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
> Oh yeah and the heavy guy refuses to accept the low-carb
> concept as anything other than quackery.
>
> TC

Well how about this on Wired? "Caloric restriction, which
attempts to boost longevity by cutting food intake by 15
percent, is gaining popularity despite a lack of studies
proving its effectiveness. By Joanna Glasner."

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,68562,00.html?tw=wn-
_tophead_1

It seems that he is smarter than you. But then again, this guy
thinks differently:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/044650016X/103--
3790387-6730227?v=glance

So you see, anyone can write anything they want about the
subject and have it taken as truth. That's why you are a
dangerous extremist. A diet terrorist.

As a fatter af fact, You are a supercilious factoid mulcher!
You ingest dubious "facts", digest them, and crap out a big,
steaming pile of your personal world view. That's not helpful
to anyone.

Get a life. Stop trying to live others.

Tc
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
Pickle-Head wrote:
> > Oh yeah and the heavy guy refuses to accept the low-carb
> > concept as anything other than quackery.
> >
> > TC
>
> Well how about this on Wired? "Caloric restriction, which
> attempts to boost longevity by cutting food intake by 15
> percent, is gaining popularity despite a lack of studies
> proving its effectiveness. By Joanna Glasner."
>
> http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,68562,00.html?tw=w-
> n_tophead_1
>
> It seems that he is smarter than you. But then again, this
> guy thinks differently:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/044650016X/10-
> 3-3790387-6730227?v=glance
>
>
> So you see, anyone can write anything they want about the
> subject and have it taken as truth. That's why you are a
> dangerous extremist. A diet terrorist.
>
> As a fatter af fact, You are a supercilious factoid mulcher!
> You ingest dubious "facts", digest them, and crap out a big,
> steaming pile of your personal world view. That's not
> helpful to anyone.
>
> Get a life. Stop trying to live others.

what the fuck is your point?

Pickle-Hea
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
Touchy... I don't know how many times I need to explian this
to you. It's getting tedious. Perhaps you need to modify your
B12 intake?

So, again, my points are:

1) You are not a mature or intellegent individual. "what the
fuck is your point?" A dope smoker could offer a more
lucid defence.

2) Anyone can find some article or another that can "prove"
just about anything. You troll the net all day, finding
articles that support your views. These articles usually
offer no proof or other hard scientific evidence. At all.
They are usually only some talking head journalist who's
filling space on dead trees for a few bucks. These views
may be fine for you, but others obviously don't agree. And
I can find just as many opposing articles, should I care to
try. Offer proof, not propaganda.

3) Speaking of all day, Is this really what you do all day?
Holy crap! You mention that you work with a number of other
computer programmers. So obviously you DO have a job. I
wonder what they think of your antics? I would sure as hell
hate to be the poor dude who has to cover for your sorry
ass! Who has to pull up the slack from your time wasting?
You're posting dozens of times a day! And how long does
that "research" take? Not to mention the money that your
company loses in lost productivity! Slacker! No good
parasite! THAT'S what really burns my ass.

You're lucky that I live a few time zones away.

Cubit
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
I believe many companies find excuses to get rid of those who
are significantly overweight.

Unless you are a computer programmer, job hunting at 300
pounds is almost pointless.

Oddly, I gather some companies are more likely to hire a
computer programmer that is obese, than one that is fit.

"Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com>
wrote in message
news:1124980067.988337.112550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Cubit wrote:
>
> > Having once been 320 lbs., I feel I'm keen to these
> > issues. While I
would
> > have an employer castrated for saying these things,
>
> I wouldn't and I don't midn saying so, either.
>
> All 300+ pounders should be terminated from their jobs for
> setting a bad example for their co-workers.
>
> Just thought that you might want to know.

Cubit
Fri, Aug-26-05, 06:48
Hmmm. OK I based my stereotype on what I was told by several
friends who are programmers, here in the Silicon Valley.

"TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124985550.953858.17220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Cubit wrote:
> > I believe many companies find excuses to get rid of those
> > who are significantly overweight.
> >
> > Unless you are a computer programmer, job hunting at 300
> > pounds is
almost
> > pointless.
> >
> > Oddly, I gather some companies are more likely to hire a
> > computer
programmer
> > that is obese, than one that is fit.
>
> Out of a dozen computer programmers that I work with daily,
> only one is overweight, and only by maybe 30 lbs. Careful
> with the assumptions and stereotypes.
>
> TC

Doug Frees
Sun, Aug-28-05, 06:35
"TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124985550.953858.17220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Cubit wrote:
>> I believe many companies find excuses to get rid of those
>> who are significantly overweight.
>>
>> Unless you are a computer programmer, job hunting at 300
>> pounds is almost pointless.
>>
>> Oddly, I gather some companies are more likely to hire a
>> computer programmer that is obese, than one that is fit.
>
> Out of a dozen computer programmers that I work with daily,
> only one is overweight, and only by maybe 30 lbs. Careful
> with the assumptions and stereotypes.

Of the dozens you work with? I used to work with thousands and
let me assure you they tend to portly/obese chair fans. The
only way programmers can lose weight is to devise an exercise
that burns calories using their typing fingers.

-DF