Knocking everything in order to be an Authority. The name of the game.

[Nick]

Those people here would like to say the positive things about
nutrition are dangerous and useless. But of course they are
also the authority of the drugs.

They will minimize nutrition and maximize pharmaceuticals.

They are minimizer's of common sense! If you aren't sick how
can they make their livelyhood?

[Sbharris-L]

Nick wrote:
> Those people here would like to say the positive things
> about nutrition are dangerous and useless. But of course
> they are also the authority of the drugs.
>
> They will minimize nutrition and maximize pharmaceuticals.
>
> They are minimizer's of common sense! If you aren't sick how
> can they make their livelyhood?

There is the aging process, you know. You think people with
proper nutrition are immortal?

SBH

[Nick]

What Boloney is that?

I have made my point. What is yours?

Maybe your livelyhood requires me to be sick SB.

[Sbharris-L]

Nick wrote:
> What Boloney is that?
>
> I have made my point. What is yours?
>
> Maybe your livelyhood requires me to be sick SB.

Not hardly. But you're going feel mighty stupid someday, lying
in the hospital dying of nothing.*

SBH

*Credit to Redd Foxx

[Nick]

We all gotta die. Which hill are you going to die on?

In control of one's life? Or dependent on doctors and drugs?

I don't need anyones authority SB

[Robert]

"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124854742.954142.287910@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Those people here would like to say the positive things
> about nutrition are dangerous and useless. But of course
> they are also the authority of the drugs.

I haven't heard any person say nutrition is dangerous
and useless.

>
> They will minimize nutrition and maximize pharmaceuticals.

Not really one or the other. It's both. Do you really think
people are not making money out of the pharmaceutical phobia.
Go to the super market and see all these idiotic terms like
low carb, low fat, low cholesterol stuff. Go to the
nutritional stores and see cholesterol lowering alternatives
including red rice yeast. There are a lot of people making
money out of the cholesterol hype and it's not all the drug
manufacturers alone. There's even people making money out of
debunking the cholesterol myth as all you have to do is buy
their book.
>
> They are minimizer's of common sense!

Common sense tells you not to starve yourself scared because
of cholesterol fears, something you lack.

> If you aren't sick how can they make their livelyhood?

Health food stores don't depend on you being sick or
preventing sickness? Whose livelyhood depends on discrediting
conventional medicine in order to sell alternative health
care? Answer me that please.

[Nick]

Maybe you knock nutrition in favor of drugs?

Rob medicine has its porpose but its not meant to be dependent
upon. You need it to treat the symptoms only until you find
the cause.

Doctors don't know as much about causes as they do symptoms.
Becoming dependent on the treatment of the symptoms without
addressing the cause excuses people to continue to live in a
wrong way.

Doctors won't tell you to change your lifestyle. They'll just
give you a drug instead.

"Let your food be your medicine."

If you have a problem with health food stores don't blame
nutrition for that. In other words don't throw the baby out
with the bathwater.

[Nick]

Blame my doctor for what buby? I am in control of my health.
Why would I need a doctor if I can solve the problems of my
own health?

Half of what doctors have been taught is wrong the other half
is right. The problem is they don't which one's which!!!

[Sbharris-L]

Nick wrote:
> We all gotta die. Which hill are you going to die on?
>
> In control of one's life? Or dependent on doctors and drugs?
>
> I don't need anyones authority SB

Since I prescribe my own, I don't need anyone's authority.
Which makes YOU look like Mr. Sour Grapes, turning necessity
into virtue.

I've not news for you. You're probably not going to be in
control of the end of your life, whether you refuse to have
anything to do with doctors, or whether you ARE a doctor. Get
used to that idea. If you want to reject it, fine, but you
haven't got much experience.

Denial isn't just a long river in Egypt, Bub.

SBH

[Nick]

I reserve the right to fire my doctor if I see fit SB. You can
do what you want.

"Let your food be your medicine."

[Robert]

"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124868077.033306.137890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Maybe you knock nutrition in favor of drugs?

Maybe you should have the same standard for nutrition that you
do for medicine. If it works then fine. If it doesn't then
don't say it's fine.

>
> Rob medicine has its porpose but its not meant to be
> dependent upon. You need it to treat the symptoms only until
> you find the cause.

Please tell me how a type I diabetes lives without medicine
and is cured by nutrition. One is dependent on meds because
there is no alternative. If you don't believe in taking any
medicine then more power to you. No one is forcing you to take
anything. I am not going to beg you to take your blood
pressure medicine. I don't care if you take it or not. I don't
care if you don't take your cholesterol lowering medication.
IF you were so concerned about your cholesterol in the first
place you wouldn't have let it get so high to begin with. It
was you lousy diet, eating habits and genetics that gave you
that cholesterol. Most people don't starve themselves by
eliminating every food group they can think of in order to get
their cholesterol levels down.
>
> Doctors don't know as much about causes as they do symptoms.
> Becoming dependent on the treatment of the symptoms without
> addressing the cause excuses people to continue to live in a
> wrong way.

Nutitionist know the cause of disease? Do you think you
getting your cholesterol down by such extremes is healthy for
your body? Do sick people go to "health food" stores when they
are not healthy? They should be called "sick food" stores.
People go to doctors because they have symptoms and not
because they are healthy. Of course they treat the symptoms.
The entire sections of health food stores are based on
symptoms. Food and food supplements are drugs. Is folate a
food or drug? Can eating certain food kill you? Food is a
foreign substance just like a drug. You can die of food
allergy just like a drug allergy.
>
> Doctors won't tell you to change your lifestyle. They'll
> just give you a drug instead.

Please dude. Doctors wouldn't tell you to lose weight? Doctors
don't tell diabetetics to control weight? They don't tell you
to exercise? They need to tell you to eat healthy? You need a
doctor to tell you that? Tell me the truth here. Everybody
thought that hambergers and french fries are healthy and they
need a doctor to set them straight. They are overweight
because the doctors didn't tell them that. Is that what
happened to you? You want to blame your doctor for what you
eat or don't eat?

>
> "Let your food be your medicine."

And as a medicine it should be judged as such. Is it working
and effective or is it not working. If it is not working then
meds are needed.
>
> If you have a problem with health food stores don't blame
> nutrition for that. In other words don't throw the baby out
> with the bathwater.
>
I don't have a problem with health food stores selling
supplements exploiting people when they can get the same
nutritional foods from a common super market. I don't have a
problem with the market exploiting people and making money off
of health food concerns like selling low cholesterol pop-corn
or organic carrots for twice the cost. Just because something
is food doesn't mean it will do squat for your condition. A
balanced diet is needed and it's the personal responsibility
of that person.

I just don't know where you get off blaming your doctor for
your high cholesterol, high blood pressure, or anything else
pertaining to your body. If you are a fat slob who doesn't eat
right, exercise and stressed out with health problems then you
need a doctor. If you eat right and correct any health issues
on your own then you don't need the doctor. Most of us are in
between. As stated by Steve the longer you live on this earth
the higher the chances you will have chronic disease because
of wear and tear. Your GI track doesn't work the same way with
nutrient absorption so there are limitations of diet.

[George Che]

"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124868077.033306.137890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Maybe you knock nutrition in favor of drugs?

It's not an either-or situation. Wisdom seeks the middle way.
Sometimes it's BOTH nutrition AND drugs. For example, if you
have atrial fibrillation you ought to take BOTH a
clot-preventer like Coumadin AND omega-3 (because among other
benefits, omega-3 helps prevent heart arrhythmias). AND spend
some time on a biofeedback machine like RESPeRATE.

George W. Cherry

[Robert]

"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124868077.033306.137890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Maybe you knock nutrition in favor of drugs?
>
> Rob medicine has its porpose but its not meant to be
> dependent upon. You need it to treat the symptoms only until
> you find the cause.
>
> Doctors don't know as much about causes as they do symptoms.
> Becoming dependent on the treatment of the symptoms without
> addressing the cause excuses people to continue to live in a
> wrong way.
>
> Doctors won't tell you to change your lifestyle. They'll
> just give you a drug instead.

Here's one for you Nick

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468618/posts

Posted on 08/22/2005 6:54:25 PM PDT by Ellesu

New Hampshire Doctor Outraged By Complaint

ROCHESTER, N.H. -- The New Hampshire attorney general is
investigating a Rochester doctor because a patient complained
that he bluntly told her she needed to lose weight.

Dr. Terry Bennett said that he's outraged by what he calls a
baseless complaint. A patient was apparently insulted when
Bennett told her that she was obese and could only get
healthier by losing weight.

"It's an epidemic in the United States, and it's croaking us,"
Bennett said.

Bennett said that it's a lecture he gives to many of his
overweight patients.

>
> "Let your food be your medicine."
>
> If you have a problem with health food stores don't blame
> nutrition for that. In other words don't throw the baby out
> with the bathwater.