breakfast with steve

[fresh~hors]

Steve Harris' breakfast Shake Serves One

These days I'd replace all the maltodextrin with half a cup
to one cup of frozen fruit (and in fact this is what I do
each morning). Maltodextrin is empty calories compared with
frozen fruit-- why not get the extra nutrients in the
equivalent amount of frozen mixed berries, instead? The
pricing and calories if you get a good frozen fruit mix
(Costco) compare well.

I microwave the frozen fruit (2 min on 50%) in the glass, to
get something I can mix with a plug-in hand drink/cocktail
mixer. This and a very large glass is even easier to use
than a blender. And washes afterwards with liquid soap in
the same way.

Since I published this, whey protein has become much less
expensive (you can Designer Whey online someplace like
Vitamix.com, for half what you can in the stores), and can be
used to replace half the soy, which improves palatability and
solubility. I still use soy for the specific soy benefits. If
you're vegetarian, you can still keep it all soy, no problem.

You can take the fat out completely, but the shake doesn't
stick to the ribs as well. These days I recommend just about
everybody take 5 to 10 grams (5 to 10 x 1000 mg) of cold water
fish oil (containing 1.5 to 3 grams of EPA/DHA), and this adds
another 100 kcal (10 grams). You don't put it in the shake,
but if you take it along with, you can avoid the "Beluga
burps" that sometimes are a problem with fish oil on an
emptier stomach. This much cold water fish body oil and
perhaps 4 grams (4 x 1 gram caps) of borage oils stick to the
ribs as well as the 14 g of avocado oil, and they deliver all
your omega-3s and a big dose of GLA (about a gram), both of
which help a lot as antiinflammatories (for workouts) and
probably general anti-aging substances. You don't really need
monounsaturated fat as an essential nutrient.

Publish away.

SBH

[Christophe]

Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture
and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I use ground flax
seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar gum will thicken the
smoothie, also.

[Mr-Natural]

fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:

> Steve Harris' breakfast Shake Serves One
>
> These days I'd replace all the maltodextrin with half a cup
> to one cup of frozen fruit (and in fact this is what I do
> each morning). Maltodextrin is empty calories compared with
> frozen fruit--

May I suggest that you take 'Writing 101' from a local
community college?

You have my condolences.

[fresh~hors]

I don't know who you are...but even from my bloodied state on
the mat here (post-Harris) I'll defend his talent as a writer.
He's one of the best. And I have some authority to back that
judgement. You don't.

The shake's not bad either.

[Mr-Natural]

fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:

> I don't know who you are...

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

> I'll defend his talent as a writer. He's one of the best.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

You have my condolenses.

[George Che]

<christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance texture
> and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I use ground
> flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar gum will thicken
> the smoothie, also.

Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie also.
We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've left
something out (because my wife makes
it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder also.
What else would be good in it, folks?

George

[Pizza Girl]

Not combining starches and fruits.

"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu>
wrote in message news:8rydnbEhl6ISKJXeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>
> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:112-
> 4612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
> > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I use
> > ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar gum
> > will thicken the smoothie, also.
>
> Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
> also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
> Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
> the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
> cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've
> left something out (because my wife makes
> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
> also. What else would be good in it, folks?
>
> George

[Ommanipadm]

But god already did that.....

In article
<1124651524.ea4c814d608d84dd975d0f75a635e8dd@teranews>, "Pizza
Girl." <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:

> Not combining starches and fruits.
>
> "George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote in message news:8rydnbEhl6ISKJXeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> >
> > <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1-
> > 124612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
> > > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I
> > > use ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar
> > > gum will thicken the smoothie, also.
> >
> > Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
> > also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in
> > the Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then
> > come the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole
> > soybeans, cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No
> > doubt I've left something out (because my wife makes
> > it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
> > also. What else would be good in it, folks?
> >
> > George
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a
son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

[David Wrig]

In article
<1124639185.732835.246810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Mr-Natural-Health
<johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
>
>fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:
>
>> I don't know who you are...
>
>Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
>
>> I'll defend his talent as a writer. He's one of the best.
>
>Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

As the empty head echoes once again.

>You have my condolenses.

You have most everyone's, Toothless John. Your consistently
lame writing style and frequent self-congratulation make you a
model for nobody.

By the way, are "condo lenses" binoculars used to view
condominiums?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If
you meet the Buddha on the net, put him in your
killfile." -- Anon.

[George Che]

"Pizza Girl." <nos.pam@5.me> wrote in message
news:1124651524.ea4c814d608d84dd975d0f75a635e8dd@teranews...
> Not combining starches and fruits.

Oh, lord, lord, what fools some posters be.

> "George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote in message news:8rydnbEhl6ISKJXeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>>
>> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:11-
>> 24612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
>> > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I
>> > use ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar
>> > gum will thicken the smoothie, also.
>>
>> Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
>> also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
>> Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
>> the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
>> cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've
>> left something out (because my wife makes
>> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
>> also. What else would be good in it, folks?
>>
>> George
>>
>

[Rbr]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:56:40 -0400, "George Cherry the
closet vegetarian"
<GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>
>"Pizza Girl." <nos.pam@5.me> wrote in message
>news:1124651524.ea4c814d608d84dd975d0f75a635e8dd@teranews...
>> Not combining starches and fruits.
>
>Oh, lord, lord, what fools some posters be.
>

We know George, we know. :o(

RBR

[Pizza Girl]

Fart on dudes!

"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
news:5uaig1lsqqqsd7s69bag3rhpl6853mt6nl@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:56:40 -0400, "George Cherry the
> closet vegetarian"
> <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Pizza Girl." <nos.pam@5.me> wrote in message news:1124651-
> >524.ea4c814d608d84dd975d0f75a635e8dd@teranews...
> >> Not combining starches and fruits.
> >
> >Oh, lord, lord, what fools some posters be.
> >
>
> We know George, we know. :o(
>
> RBR

[Rbr]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:45:49 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
<nos.pam@5.me> wrote:

>Fart on dudes!

Speaking of fools ...

You never fail to underwhelm me PG.

RBR

[Sbharris-L]

George Cherry wrote:
> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:112-
> 4612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
> > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I use
> > ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar gum
> > will thicken the smoothie, also.
>
> Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
> also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
> Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
> the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
> cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've
> left something out (because my wife makes
> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
> also. What else would be good in it, folks?
>
> George

COMMENT:

It would be good to take out the broccoli. Yecchh.

G. Bush, Sr.

[Sbharris-L]

Mr-Natural-Health wrote:
> fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:
>
> > Steve Harris' breakfast Shake Serves One
> >
> > These days I'd replace all the maltodextrin with half a
> > cup to one cup of frozen fruit (and in fact this is what I
> > do each morning). Maltodextrin is empty calories compared
> > with frozen fruit--
>
> May I suggest that you take 'Writing 101' from a local
> community college?
>
> You have my condolences.

COMMENT: Is that where somebody tried to teach YOU to
write, O Prunefaced One? Why else would you think of it in
this context?

For the record, what Zee has just posted rather spontaneously
and without warning (above), is actually an amputated 2004
footnote of mine originally intended to update an old (1997)
article. You see here the footnote only, and not the article
it was intended to supplement (Zee's fault), so it suffers by
being out of natural context and without any obvious referent.
Sort of like you, Gohde, when you post on sci.nutrition.
Except you do it all by yourself.

SBH

[Fresh~Hors]

Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Mr-Natural-Health wrote:
> > fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:
> >
> > > Steve Harris' breakfast Shake Serves One
> > >
> > > These days I'd replace all the maltodextrin with half a
> > > cup to one cup of frozen fruit (and in fact this is what
> > > I do each morning). Maltodextrin is empty calories
> > > compared with frozen fruit--
> >
> > May I suggest that you take 'Writing 101' from a local
> > community college?
> >
> > You have my condolences.
>
>
> COMMENT: Is that where somebody tried to teach YOU to write,
> O Prunefaced One? Why else would you think of it in this
> context?
>
> For the record, what Zee has just posted rather
> spontaneously and without warning (above), is actually an
> amputated 2004 footnote of mine originally intended to
> update an old (1997) article. You see here the footnote
> only, and not the article it was intended to supplement
> (Zee's fault), so it suffers by being out of natural context
> and without any obvious referent. Sort of like you, Gohde,
> when you post on sci.nutrition. Except you do it all by
> yourself.
>
> SBH

I was supposed to include that part?

----- Original Message ----- From:
<fresh~horses@despammed.com> To: <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:49 PM Subject: veg
shake recipe

> Salut Dr. Harris
>
> I want to use your breakfast shake recipe, and in fact
post it, if I may.
>
> 1. would you make any changes?
>
> 2. may I post it? I know you said so after the recipe. But
that was some time ago. Should I only post the recipe part, or
also the comment?
>
> 3. if one is watching fats is one tablespoon oil
advisable?
>
> I'll only be drinking one-half the recipe at a time. I
intend to use it 2 hours prior to work outs.
>
> Thank you for the advice about fish oil. I'm using a small
amount happily and will gradually increase.
>
> Zee
>
> P.S. I thought to ask you on newsgroup but decided you'd
prefer privately. Hope I haven't offended.
>
>
>
>
>
> Banana-Vanilla Anti-Cancer Anti-Heart-Disease Weight-Loss
> Breakfast Shake:
>
> http://yarchive.net/med/breakfast_shake.html
>
>
>
> Step 1: In a cup mix dry:
>
> 1/2 cup maltodextrin
> 1/4 cup soy protein (get brands with no added methionine
such as
> CHALLENGE brand with 95% isolated soy).
>
> This can be done as dry ingredients the evening before. A
mix of
> 2 parts maltodextrin and 1 part soy protein powder (by
volume)
> can also be made up in bulk, for even faster measurement
>
>
>
>
> Step 2: In the AM, add to your blender:
>
> 8 oz non-fat 6 or 7 gram protein per cup soy milk (author's
> favorite: SOY-MOO brand) 1 tablespoon almond oil 5 drops
> vanilla extract 2 large ice cubes (made from distilled
> water), or 1/2 to 1
cup
> frozen fruit (preferred) 1 large banana (partly for
> sweetness, and also
consistency)
>
> Or the blender pitcher-top can be left in the refrigerator
> overnight with the liquids in it, and the ice in the
freezer
> (there never seems to be enough time in the mornings for
the
> author, so this kind of preparation works well).
>
> Step 3:
>
> In the AM, simply add the protein powder on top of the
liquid
> ingredients, add a banana and ice, and blend on "low"
blend
> setting, until smooth (60 seconds or so), for a drink of
16 oz.
> Chug it down, quickly rinse the blender before it becomes
a
> problem to wash (you can use soapy water and blend again
for a
> few seconds), and you can be out the door in a minute or
two.
>
> For other flavors, frozen whole organic strawberries,
> peaches, blueberries, blackberries, or melon, can be added
to
> taste. Just keep small bags of frozen fruit in the
freezer, and
> prepare and use a packet of mixed frozen fruits in your
shake,
> instead of ice.
>
> Don't be afraid to experiment with mixed fruits (the
purple
> and blue ones may make the shake look strange, but they
taste
> good). Bananas are easy to freeze also, when they are
ripe
> (never mind the dark appearance of frozen bananas--they
also
> taste fine after blending). Epidemiologically,
strawberries and
> melons top the list of anti-cancer fruits, and
huckleberries,
> blackcurrents, blueberries and blackberries are highest in
the
> bioflavonoids which possibly naturally prevent some heart
disease
> and thrombophlebitis problems.
>
> For those mornings when a chance from fruit is in
order,
> Hershey chocolate syrup makes for a health non-fat flavor,
as
> (aside from satisfying the odd craving that some people
have for
> it) it contains healthful flavonoids as well. The banana-
> chocolate shake is excellent.
>
************************************************************
>
> Nutritional Analysis (for the plain banana/vanilla
version):
>
> Protein: 20 grams (about 1/3 of daily protein requirement)
> Carbohydrate: 105 g (~30 grams simple sugars, no lactose)
> Fat: 15 grams (70% monounsaturate) Fiber: 1.6 grams
>
> Energy: 615 Cals (Kcals), 20% from fat
>
> Cost (Banana/Vanilla with 100% maltodextrin): About $1.75,
> depending on where you shop or mail-order. This compares
> reasonably to $1.50 for the same calories from 3 Carnation
> Instant Breakfasts with skim milk (200 Calories each).
> Calorically, note that an "Instant Breakfast" is not much
of a
> breakfast. It would be possible to duplicate the
approximate
> food value in the above shake in the same volume at about
the
> same cost with *two* Instant Breakfasts, condensed skim
and
> regular skim milk (50:50) to make 16 oz, and some almond
oil.
> But the resulting drink would have milk casein in place of
soy
> protein and soy nutrients, and also have a lot of lactose
(unless
> you added lactase enzyme such as Lactaid too...).
Generally,
> this would be inferior.
>
> Again, note that some fat and fat-calories have been
added
> deliberately, in order to avoid "daily Calories eaten late
in the
> day" trap. There is no point in trying to make this a
"low-
> calorie" shake-- that defeats the entire purpose of the
thing!
> Also, vitamins, minerals, and omega-3 fatty acids have
been not
> been balanced, on assumption that supplement pills,
fruits,
> vegetables, and other fat sources will be added later in
the
> daily diet.
>
> Some health-seekers will immediately think of adding
the
> traditional things like brewer's yeast, vitamins,
wheatgerm oil,
> and lecithin to this recipe. My best advice on this is:
don't.
> These things taste awful to many people! It takes an
unusual
> person to drink something most mornings over the long run
if it
> doesn't taste pretty good. If you make these sweet and
tasty
> shakes correctly, however, you can drink one every morning
and
> never get tired of them. The clean taste of strawberries,
> several types of mellon balls, peaches, and almond oil in
a shake
> go particularly well.
>
>
>
> (May be reprinted anywhere without permission, if done
not-for-
> profit).
>

[Sbharris-L]

fresh~horses wrote:
> Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > Mr-Natural-Health wrote:
> > > fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Steve Harris' breakfast Shake Serves One
> > > >
> > > > These days I'd replace all the maltodextrin with half
> > > > a cup to one cup of frozen fruit (and in fact this is
> > > > what I do each morning). Maltodextrin is empty
> > > > calories compared with frozen fruit--
> > >
> > > May I suggest that you take 'Writing 101' from a local
> > > community college?
> > >
> > > You have my condolences.
> >
> >
> > COMMENT: Is that where somebody tried to teach YOU to
> > write, O Prunefaced One? Why else would you think of it in
> > this context?
> >
> > For the record, what Zee has just posted rather
> > spontaneously and without warning (above), is actually an
> > amputated 2004 footnote of mine originally intended to
> > update an old (1997) article. You see here the footnote
> > only, and not the article it was intended to supplement
> > (Zee's fault), so it suffers by being out of natural
> > context and without any obvious referent. Sort of like
> > you, Gohde, when you post on sci.nutrition. Except you do
> > it all by yourself.
> >
> > SBH
>
>
> I was supposed to include that part?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> <fresh~horses@despammed.com> To: <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:49 PM Subject: veg
> shake recipe
>
>
> > Salut Dr. Harris
> >
> > I want to use your breakfast shake recipe, and in fact
> post it, if I may.
> >
> > 1. would you make any changes?
> >
> > 2. may I post it? I know you said so after the recipe. But
> that was some time ago. Should I only post the recipe part,
> or also the comment?
> >
> > 3. if one is watching fats is one tablespoon oil
> advisable?
> >
> > I'll only be drinking one-half the recipe at a time. I
> intend to use it 2 hours prior to work outs.
> >
> > Thank you for the advice about fish oil. I'm using a small
> amount happily and will gradually increase.
> >
> > Zee
> >
> > P.S. I thought to ask you on newsgroup but decided you'd
> prefer privately. Hope I haven't offended.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Banana-Vanilla Anti-Cancer Anti-Heart-Disease Weight-Loss
> > Breakfast Shake:
> >
> > http://yarchive.net/med/breakfast_shake.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Step 1: In a cup mix dry:
> >
> > 1/2 cup maltodextrin
> > 1/4 cup soy protein (get brands with no added methionine
> such as
> > CHALLENGE brand with 95% isolated soy).
> >
> > This can be done as dry ingredients the evening before. A
> mix of
> > 2 parts maltodextrin and 1 part soy protein powder (by
> volume)
> > can also be made up in bulk, for even faster measurement
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Step 2: In the AM, add to your blender:
> >
> > 8 oz non-fat 6 or 7 gram protein per cup soy milk
> > (author's favorite: SOY-MOO brand) 1 tablespoon almond oil
> > 5 drops vanilla extract 2 large ice cubes (made from
> > distilled water), or 1/2 to 1
> cup
> > frozen fruit (preferred) 1 large banana (partly for
> > sweetness, and also
> consistency)
> >
> > Or the blender pitcher-top can be left in the refrigerator
> > overnight with the liquids in it, and the ice in the
> freezer
> > (there never seems to be enough time in the mornings for
> the
> > author, so this kind of preparation works well).
> >
> > Step 3:
> >
> > In the AM, simply add the protein powder on top of the
> liquid
> > ingredients, add a banana and ice, and blend on "low"
> blend
> > setting, until smooth (60 seconds or so), for a drink of
> 16 oz.
> > Chug it down, quickly rinse the blender before it becomes
> a
> > problem to wash (you can use soapy water and blend again
> for a
> > few seconds), and you can be out the door in a minute or
> two.
> >
> > For other flavors, frozen whole organic strawberries,
> >peaches, blueberries, blackberries, or melon, can be added
> to
> > taste. Just keep small bags of frozen fruit in the
> freezer, and
> > prepare and use a packet of mixed frozen fruits in your
> shake,
> > instead of ice.
> >
> > Don't be afraid to experiment with mixed fruits (the
> purple
> > and blue ones may make the shake look strange, but they
> taste
> > good). Bananas are easy to freeze also, when they are
> ripe
> > (never mind the dark appearance of frozen bananas--they
> also
> > taste fine after blending). Epidemiologically,
> strawberries and
> > melons top the list of anti-cancer fruits, and
> huckleberries,
> > blackcurrents, blueberries and blackberries are highest in
> the
> > bioflavonoids which possibly naturally prevent some heart
> disease
> > and thrombophlebitis problems.
> >
> > For those mornings when a chance from fruit is in
> order,
> > Hershey chocolate syrup makes for a health non-fat flavor,
> as
> > (aside from satisfying the odd craving that some people
> have for
> > it) it contains healthful flavonoids as well. The banana-
> > chocolate shake is excellent.
> >
> ************************************************************
> >
> > Nutritional Analysis (for the plain banana/vanilla
> version):
> >
> > Protein: 20 grams (about 1/3 of daily protein requirement)
> > Carbohydrate: 105 g (~30 grams simple sugars, no lactose)
> > Fat: 15 grams (70% monounsaturate) Fiber: 1.6 grams
> >
> > Energy: 615 Cals (Kcals), 20% from fat
> >
> > Cost (Banana/Vanilla with 100% maltodextrin): About $1.75,
> > depending on where you shop or mail-order. This compares
> > reasonably to $1.50 for the same calories from 3 Carnation
> > Instant Breakfasts with skim milk (200 Calories each).
> > Calorically, note that an "Instant Breakfast" is not much
> of a
> > breakfast. It would be possible to duplicate the
> approximate
> > food value in the above shake in the same volume at about
> the
> > same cost with *two* Instant Breakfasts, condensed skim
> and
> > regular skim milk (50:50) to make 16 oz, and some almond
> oil.
> > But the resulting drink would have milk casein in place of
> soy
> > protein and soy nutrients, and also have a lot of lactose
> (unless
> > you added lactase enzyme such as Lactaid too...).
> Generally,
> > this would be inferior.
> >
> > Again, note that some fat and fat-calories have been
> added
> > deliberately, in order to avoid "daily Calories eaten late
> in the
> > day" trap. There is no point in trying to make this a
> "low-
> > calorie" shake-- that defeats the entire purpose of the
> thing!
> > Also, vitamins, minerals, and omega-3 fatty acids have
> been not
> > been balanced, on assumption that supplement pills,
> fruits,
> > vegetables, and other fat sources will be added later in
> the
> > daily diet.
> >
> > Some health-seekers will immediately think of adding
> the
> > traditional things like brewer's yeast, vitamins,
> wheatgerm oil,
> > and lecithin to this recipe. My best advice on this is:
> don't.
> > These things taste awful to many people! It takes an
> unusual
> > person to drink something most mornings over the long run
> if it
> > doesn't taste pretty good. If you make these sweet and
> tasty
> > shakes correctly, however, you can drink one every morning
> and
> > never get tired of them. The clean taste of strawberries,
> > several types of mellon balls, peaches, and almond oil in
> a shake
> > go particularly well.
> >
> >
> >
> > (May be reprinted anywhere without permission, if done
> not-for-
> > profit).
> >

"I was supposed to include that part?" The actual recipe? Duh,
yes, but now you have.

[Sbharris-L]

fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:
> I don't know who you are...but even from my bloodied state
> on the mat here (post-Harris) I'll defend his talent as a
> writer. He's one of the best. And I have some authority to
> back that judgement. You don't.
>
> The shake's not bad either.

Paste-eater.

[Fresh~Hors]

Possibly...but what's the context?

[Fresh~Hors]

Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
> fresh~horses@despammed.com wrote:
> > I don't know who you are...but even from my bloodied state
> > on the mat here (post-Harris) I'll defend his talent as a
> > writer. He's one of the best. And I have some authority to
> > back that judgement. You don't.
> >
> > The shake's not bad either.
>
>
> Paste-eater.

Oh. I don't have television.

[Sbharris-L]

David Rind wrote:
> Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >>>2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or
> >>>1/2 to 1
>
> Distilled water? Why?
>
> --
> David Rind drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

COMMENT: It was cheaper than reverse osmosis purified at the
time I wrote. I don't care about the minerals, I just wanted
the chlorinated organics out.

Since then, I've given up the ice entirely (it was only for
cooling), and use frozen fruit for any cooling I need. So long
as you include banana, no amount of frozen fruit will screw up
your blender.

SBH

[Fresh~Hors]

Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
> David Rind wrote:
> > Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > >>>2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or 1/2
> > >>>to 1
> >
> > Distilled water? Why?
> >
> > --
> > David Rind drind@caregroup.harvard.edu
>
>
> COMMENT: It was cheaper than reverse osmosis purified at the
> time I wrote. I don't care about the minerals, I just wanted
> the chlorinated organics out.
>
> Since then, I've given up the ice entirely (it was only for
> cooling), and use frozen fruit for any cooling I need. So
> long as you include banana, no amount of frozen fruit will
> screw up your blender.
>
> SBH

But what are you eating that is cereal/grain fibre with
this? Anything?

Zee

[George Che]

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
news:1124742113.210526.286310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> George Cherry wrote:
>> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:11-
>> 24612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
>> > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I
>> > use ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar
>> > gum will thicken the smoothie, also.
>>
>> Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
>> also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
>> Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
>> the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
>> cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've
>> left something out (because my wife makes
>> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
>> also. What else would be good in it, folks?
>>
>> George
>
> COMMENT:
>
> It would be good to take out the broccoli. Yecchh.
>
> G. Bush, Sr.

LOL. Actually, it's very palatable! I just checked with she
who blends it. I left out the banana.

Every ingredient has a sophisticated scientific basis. : o )

Oh yes, here's Mark Twain's prescient description of G.
Bush, Jr.:

"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence-- and
then success is sure."

Too bad it was Twain rather than Bush who was prescient.

GWC

[George Che]

George Cherry wrote:
> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:112-
> 4612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
> > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I use
> > ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar gum
> > will thicken the smoothie, also.
>
> Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
> also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
> Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
> the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
> cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've
> left something out (because my wife makes
> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
> also. What else would be good in it, folks?

Excuse the self-response. I left out the

frozen baby carrots infant oat groat sprouts frozen baby peas
ripe banana (but not too old!)

The young blue berries and baby broccoli florets are
also frozen.

GWC

[David Rind]

Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>>2 large ice cubes (made from distilled water), or 1/2 to 1

Distilled water? Why?

--
David Rind drind@caregroup.harvard.edu

[George Che]

"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu>
wrote in message news:MoKdnYCxnJ5cEJfeRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> George Cherry wrote:
>> <christopher.a.dowling@gmail.com> wrote in message news:11-
>> 24612990.917974.147150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Although one may not need the fats, nuts may enhance
>> > texture and flavor, as well as nutritional elements. I
>> > use ground flax seeds for lignans, also. A bit of guar
>> > gum will thicken the smoothie, also.
>>
>> Coincidence! We put flax seed in our breakfast smoothie
>> also. We start out with whole almonds and flax seeds in the
>> Vita-Mix, chopping and grinding them to a powder. Then come
>> the blue berries, baby broccoli florets, whole soybeans,
>> cinnamon, and zero-calorie flavored water. No doubt I've
>> left something out (because my wife makes
>> it). Oh yes, we (well, she) put in Psyllium Husk Powder
>> also. What else would be good in it, folks?
>
> Excuse the self-response. I left out the
>
> frozen baby carrots infant oat groat sprouts frozen baby
> peas ripe banana (but not too old!)
>
> The young blue berries and baby broccoli florets are
> also frozen.

To preserve their newborn freshness.

[Pizza Girl]

Well, if you can't present any intelligent arguments for
yourself, then fine. You sure have presented many
against yourself.

"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
news:8i0kg1d6d69f5alfjvfthho5deu76rrqdn@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:45:49 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
>
> >Fart on dudes!
>
> Speaking of fools ...
>
> You never fail to underwhelm me PG.
>
> RBR

[Sbharris-L]

Man does not live by insoluble fiber alone. The soluble
"fiber" (a bad term in this context because it suggests
qualities different from what the actual stuff has) in fruit
is quite enough, all by itself. You're meant to eat bananas.
Cereals are a quite a recent addition to the human diet. I
don't think there's anything particularly wrong with them, but
there's no RDA for bran or oatmeal roughage, either.

SBH

[Sbharris-L]

George Cherry wrote:

> > Excuse the self-response. I left out the
> >
> > frozen baby carrots infant oat groat sprouts frozen baby
> > peas ripe banana (but not too old!)
> >
> > The young blue berries and baby broccoli florets are also
> > frozen.
>
> To preserve their newborn freshness.

How re-veal-ing.

Nature's first green is gold Her hardest hue to hold Her early
leaf's a flower But only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to
leaf So Eden sank to greif So dawn goes down to day Nothing
gold can stay.

Robert Frost

[Pizza Girl]

I have never heard of a single group from left to rightwing
that can argue against bananas.

Even the Mental health clinics have people going bananas.

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
news:1124821226.467262.166930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Man does not live by insoluble fiber alone. The soluble
> "fiber" (a bad term in this context because it suggests
> qualities different from what the actual stuff has) in fruit
> is quite enough, all by itself. You're meant to eat bananas.
> Cereals are a quite a recent addition to the human diet. I
> don't think there's anything particularly wrong with them,
> but there's no RDA for bran or oatmeal roughage, either.
>
> SBH

[William Wa]

In article
<1124831835.08ffe4f210b2cf6971c262d574337600@teranews>, "Pizza
Girl." <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:

> I have never heard of a single group from left to rightwing
> that can argue against bananas.
>
> Even the Mental health clinics have people going bananas.
>
> "Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote in message news:1124821226.467262.166930@o13g2000cwo.-
> googlegroups.com...
> > Man does not live by insoluble fiber alone. The soluble
> > "fiber" (a bad term in this context because it suggests
> > qualities different from what the actual stuff has) in
> > fruit is quite enough, all by itself. You're meant to eat
> > bananas. Cereals are a quite a recent addition to the
> > human diet. I don't think there's anything particularly
> > wrong with them, but there's no RDA for bran or oatmeal
> > roughage, either.
> >
> > SBH
> >

Yes but they come from the banana republics . Which have OIL
not the edible kind. Going bananas seems all to easy almost
the default.

Now where is my 700 club contribution? Oh I flushed it.

Peace

Bill ranting

--
Garden Shade Zone 5 S Jersey USA in a Japanese Jungle
Manner.39.6376 -75.0208 This article is posted under fair use
rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is
strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This
material is distributed without profit.

[George Che]

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
news:1124821466.713748.181170@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> George Cherry wrote:
>
>> > Excuse the self-response. I left out the
>> >
>> > frozen baby carrots infant oat groat sprouts frozen baby
>> > peas ripe banana (but not too old!)
>> >
>> > The young blue berries and baby broccoli florets are also
>> > frozen.
>>
>> To preserve their newborn freshness.
>
>
> How re-veal-ing.
>
> Nature's first green is gold Her hardest hue to hold Her
> early leaf's a flower But only so an hour. Then leaf
> subsides to leaf So Eden sank to greif So dawn goes down to
> day Nothing gold can stay.
>
> Robert Frost

Despite his name, Robert didn't take into account freezing and
thawing out. (It even works on embryos.)

[Rbr]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:35:40 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
<nos.pam@5.me> wrote:

>Well, if you can't present any intelligent arguments for
>yourself, then fine. You sure have presented many against
>yourself.
>

Argument to what, your fruit loops postings? Like the blood
type diet for example? You're as loopy as the vegetarians PG.

>"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
>news:8i0kg1d6d69f5alfjvfthho5deu76rrqdn@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:45:49 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
>> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
>>
>> >Fart on dudes!
>>
>> Speaking of fools ...
>>
>> You never fail to underwhelm me PG.
>>
>> RBR
>

[Pizza Girl]

I rest my case.

Hung like a pork sausage.

"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
news:jekqg15om5tpj8q720mks806ibm61pb2u5@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:35:40 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
>
> >Well, if you can't present any intelligent arguments for
> >yourself, then fine. You sure have presented many against
> >yourself.
> >
>
> Argument to what, your fruit loops postings? Like the
> blood type diet for example? You're as loopy as the
> vegetarians PG.
>
> >"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
> >news:8i0kg1d6d69f5alfjvfthho5deu76rrqdn@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:45:49 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
> >> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Fart on dudes!
> >>
> >> Speaking of fools ...
> >>
> >> You never fail to underwhelm me PG.
> >>
> >> RBR
> >>

[Rbr]

Say something intelligent first. Your posts have been
completely out to lunch as I cited one example. Your belief in
the blood type diet. You also appear to be milk-phobic. Your
theories have been hung out to dry so often its amazing you
still post here! Where do you get your nutritional advice? You
need to start looking elsewhere.

I rest MY case.

RBR

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:28:47 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
<nos.pam@5.me> wrote:

>I rest my case.
>
> Hung like a pork sausage.
>
>"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
>news:jekqg15om5tpj8q720mks806ibm61pb2u5@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:35:40 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
>> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, if you can't present any intelligent arguments for
>> >yourself, then fine. You sure have presented many against
>> >yourself.
>> >
>>
>> Argument to what, your fruit loops postings? Like the
>> blood type diet for example? You're as loopy as the
>> vegetarians PG.
>>
>> >"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
>> >news:8i0kg1d6d69f5alfjvfthho5deu76rrqdn@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:45:49 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
>> >> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Fart on dudes!
>> >>
>> >> Speaking of fools ...
>> >>
>> >> You never fail to underwhelm me PG.
>> >>
>> >> RBR
>> >>
>> >
>

[Pizza Girl]

LOL

The truth shall set you free.

"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
news:ienug1pvlmrlucfgok71s0uvslihh7lh26@4ax.com...
> Say something intelligent first. Your posts have been
> completely out to lunch as I cited one example. Your belief
> in the blood type diet. You also appear to be milk-phobic.
> Your theories have been hung out to dry so often its amazing
> you still post here! Where do you get your nutritional
> advice? You need to start looking elsewhere.
>
> I rest MY case.
>
> RBR
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:28:47 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
>
> >I rest my case.
> >
> > Hung like a pork sausage.
> >
> >"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
> >news:jekqg15om5tpj8q720mks806ibm61pb2u5@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:35:40 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
> >> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Well, if you can't present any intelligent arguments for
> >> >yourself,
then
> >> >fine. You sure have presented many against yourself.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Argument to what, your fruit loops postings? Like the
> >> blood type diet for example? You're as loopy as the
> >> vegetarians PG.
> >>
> >> >"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:8i0kg1d6d69f5alfjvfthho5deu76rrqdn@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:45:49 -0400, "Pizza Girl."
> >> >> <nos.pam@5.me> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Fart on dudes!
> >> >>
> >> >> Speaking of fools ...
> >> >>
> >> >> You never fail to underwhelm me PG.
> >> >>
> >> >> RBR
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>

[David Wrig]

In article
<0wpQe.3422$9i4.3183@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, George
Lagergren <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote: [ in ref to "Pizza Girl"????]
>> Say something intelligent first. Your posts have been
>> completely out to lunch as I cited one example. Your belief
>> in the blood type diet. You also appear to be milk-phobic.
>> Your theories have been hung out to dry so often its
>> amazing you still post here! Where do you get your
>> nutritional advice? You need to start looking elsewhere.
>
> What is wrong in being cow's milk-phobic?

It makes no more sense than being afraid of thunder or of the
number thirteen.

> Maybe humans should not consume dairy products and drink
> cow's
>milk.

Maybe you should not consume them. Maybe you should leave the
rest of us alone.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you
can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice
Roosevelt Longworth

[George Lag]

"RBR" <rogers@home.com> wrote: [ in ref to "Pizza Girl"????]
> Say something intelligent first. Your posts have been
> completely out to lunch as I cited one example. Your belief
> in the blood type diet. You also appear to be milk-phobic.
> Your theories have been hung out to dry so often its amazing
> you still post here! Where do you get your nutritional
> advice? You need to start looking elsewhere.

What is wrong in being cow's milk-phobic? Maybe
humans should not consume dairy products and
drink cow's
milk.

Pizza Girl's children got rid of their ear
infections by NOT drinking cow's milk. I got rid
of my strep throats; lung congestion; and common
colds by NOT drinking cow's milk.

[George Che]

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
news:1125263302.249885.265690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Meantime, I treat that horrible dry mouth feeling that comes
> after eating a warm chocolate chip cookie, by drinking a
> glass of cold milk. I'd suppose I could give up chocolate
> entirely, but then I'd have to, well, give up chocolate. Or
> drink water after my chocolate. What kind of a life is that?
> Are you mad?

Try this, Steve. Buy some unsweetened cocoa and several jars
of unsweetened apple sauce (I use organic apple sauce). Stir a
heaping tbsp of the unsweetened cocoa into one of the jars of
unsweetened apple sauce. Stir well, eat, and enjoy. Two and
one-half cups will cost you about 250 calories (the calorie
density is less than 0.5 calories/gram). Not enough substance?
Add a level tbsp of
Psyllium husk fiber. Good mouth feel and not dry.

George

[Pizza Girl]

Thanx Yod

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
news:1125263560.778962.127240@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Pizza Girl. wrote:
> > LOL
> >
> > The truth shall set you free.
>
>
>
> COMMENT:
>
> The truth may set you free, but trying to figure out just
> what the truth is, will keep you in perpetual thall. No
> matter. There are worse masters.
>
> SBH

[Pizza Girl]

I am going ot start a new thread on thet dry shit tasting
mouth now.

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message
news:1125263302.249885.265690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> George Lagergren wrote:
> >
> > Pizza Girl's children got rid of their ear
> > infections by NOT drinking cow's milk. I got
> > rid of my strep throats; lung congestion; and
> > common
colds
> > by NOT drinking cow's milk.
>
>
> COMMENT:
>
> I never get those things in the first place, and have drunk
> enough milk in my life to float Captain Crunch's ship. The
> only thing I recognize in your list is the common cold, and
> once every couple of years this manefests in my coming down
> with sneezes and a stuffed up nose for about 24 to 48
> hours. It warrants treatment with a nasal decongestant, and
> that's it.
>
> Meantime, I treat that horrible dry mouth feeling that comes
> after eating a warm chocolate chip cookie, by drinking a
> glass of cold milk. I'd suppose I could give up chocolate
> entirely, but then I'd have to, well, give up chocolate. Or
> drink water after my chocolate. What kind of a life is that?
> Are you mad?
>
> SBH

[Hcn]

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
wrote in message news:1125263302.249885.265690@o13g2000cwo.g-
ooglegroups.com... ...>
> Meantime, I treat that horrible dry mouth feeling that comes
> after eating a warm chocolate chip cookie, by drinking a
> glass of cold milk. I'd suppose I could give up chocolate
> entirely, but then I'd have to, well, give up chocolate. Or
> drink water after my chocolate. What kind of a life is that?
> Are you mad?
>
> SBH
>

If you have really good chocolate (not cheap stuff, but really
good truffles... or a chocolate fondue with a good creamy
chocolate and whole cream) you could follow it with a nice
cabernet saugvinon or a merlot.

But, I agree... nothing is better to chase down a fresh
chocolate chip cookie or homemade brownies than a cold
glass of milk.

Also, I prefer milk to beer for cooling down my mouth after
hot spicy food. Though beer is good... I just sometimes need
more than what is prudent (like with the mustard sauce that I
dip barbecue pork in). So milk works.

[George Lag]

> George Lagergren wrote: Pizza Girl's children got rid of
> their ear infections by NOT drinking cow's milk. I got rid
> of my strep throats; lung congestion; and common
colds
> by NOT drinking cow's milk.

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
> I never get those things in the first place, and have drunk
> enough milk in my life to float Captain Crunch's ship. The
> only thing I recognize in your list is the common cold, and
> once every couple of years this manefests in my coming down
> with sneezes and a stuffed up nose for about 24 to 48
> hours. It warrants treatment with a nasal decongestant, and
> that's it.

Perhaps if you did NOT drink cow's milk, you would
NOT even get a common cold every several years. And
risk prostate cancer in your older years.

> Meantime, I treat that horrible dry mouth feeling that comes
> after eating a warm chocolate chip cookie, by drinking a
> glass of cold milk. I'd suppose I could give up chocolate
> entirely, but then I'd have to, well, give up chocolate. Or
> drink water after my chocolate. What kind of a life is that?
> Are you mad?

So what kind of life do young infants have once
they can no longer take human milk from their
mothers'. Do young infants go mad once they no
longer consume their mother's milk?

What kind of life do even adult humans have since
they do NOT drink human mother's milk? Do adult
humans go mad from the lack of drinking human
mother's milk? Or do adult humans only go mad from
drinking cow's milk?

[Happy Dog]

"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> wrote in
message news:
> "Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com"
> <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> I never get those things in the first place, and have drunk
>> enough milk in my life to float Captain Crunch's ship. The
>> only thing I recognize in your list is the common cold, and
>> once every couple of years this manefests in my coming down
>> with sneezes and a stuffed up nose for about 24 to 48
>> hours. It warrants treatment with a nasal decongestant, and
>> that's it.
>
> Perhaps if you did NOT drink cow's milk, you would
> NOT even get a common cold every several years. And
> risk prostate cancer in your older years.

Prostate cancer? George, name the diseases you think are NOT
caused or exacerbated by consumption of dairy products. It
will save bandwidth here.
>
>> Meantime, I treat that horrible dry mouth feeling that
>> comes after eating a warm chocolate chip cookie, by
>> drinking a glass of cold milk. I'd suppose I could give up
>> chocolate entirely, but then I'd have to, well, give up
>> chocolate. Or drink water after my chocolate. What kind of
>> a life is that? Are you mad?
>
> So what kind of life do young infants have once
> they can no longer take human milk from their
> mothers'. Do young infants go mad once they no
> longer consume their mother's milk?
>
> What kind of life do even adult humans have since
> they do NOT drink human mother's milk? Do adult
> humans go mad from the lack of drinking human
> mother's milk? Or do adult humans only go mad
> from drinking cow's milk?

"Only from drinking cow's milk"? Apparently not. That's one
thing you're living proof of.

moo