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mcsblues
Sun, Aug-14-05, 18:28
Mmm … chops for tea, fresh from the lab
By Ian Sample in London
August 15, 2005

It could be the ultimate conundrum for vegetarians: fresh meat grown from animal cells without a single cow, sheep or pig being killed.

Researchers have published details of how lumps of meat would be cultured in laboratory vats rather than carved from livestock reared on a farm.

Scientists have adapted the medical technique of tissue engineering, where individual cells are multiplied into whole tissues, and applied it to food production.

"With a single cell, you could theoretically produce the world's annual meat supply," Jason Matheny, an agricultural scientist at the University of Maryland, said in the journal Tissue Engineering.

Researchers said meat grown in laboratories would be more environment-friendly and could be tailored to be healthier than farm-reared meat by controlling its nutrient content and screening it for food-borne diseases.

Vegetarians might also be tempted because the cells needed could be taken without harming the donor animal.

Mr Matheny and his colleagues have taken the prospect of "cultured meat" a step further by working out how to produce it on an industrial scale. They envisage muscle cells growing on huge sheets that would be regularly stretched to exercise the cells as they grow. Once enough cells had grown, they would be scraped off and shaped into processed meat products such as chicken nuggets.

"If you didn't stretch them, you would be eating mush," Mr Matheny said. However, tasty and textured cuts are a long way off.

Kerry Bennett, of Britain's Vegetarian Society, will not be tempted, but said "if they're going to make chicken nuggets with it, then it's probably not going to taste much different".

The Guardian


http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/fresh-from-the-lab/2005/08/14/1123957949746.html

ItsTheWooo
Sun, Aug-14-05, 19:11
Oh gross.
This is coming from a carnivore who will literally revel in eating connective tissue, crack open bones and suck marrow (I LOVE the soft spongy "tips" of fowl bones) and do all manner of barbaric meat eating things. That bag of unnamed innards from the turkey? Yum. Stew.

The idea of eating a sheet of muscle grown in the lab, though... well that's where I draw the line. That's so unnatural.

potatofree
Sun, Aug-14-05, 19:37
You know... if you don't know where it comes from, you might never know. :lol: If you over-think ANY food, you can gross yourself out. It would really not be any more disgusting to me than jello. Boiled hooves and bones....

mcsblues
Sun, Aug-14-05, 20:00
Yes, its not the grossness which concerns me - but being left in the hands of scientists as to what nutrients they think we need (presumably this product could be engineered to have zero fat or some truly frankenfood combination which suits the latest fad).

OTOH, it may turn out to a cheap way to mass produce protein to feed the masses which might be more environmentally sustainable than current practices. And, you never know, sooner or later scientists may actually produce something that is as good for us as the natural alternative.

Cheers,


Malcolm

Nancy LC
Sun, Aug-14-05, 21:30
If everyone in the world went low-carb it'd be like... India and China suddenly using lots of oil and driving cars and stuff.

Mandra
Sun, Aug-14-05, 21:30
I'm sure PeTA and PCRM will still find a reason to be against it.....

ProfGumby
Sun, Aug-14-05, 22:11
Not me, no way! That is like the uber franken food!!! That is about as un nerving as dousing your chicken in a slurry of fish goo..........

Make me wanna puke just thinking about it! It is these same scientists that engeneered all the hormones and other crap forced into our livestock now. And look how well that is going!

Isin't it funny that no matter how hard these science tyopes try, you still can't getb a better piece of beef than that from organically raised grass fed cattle. I still say, you can't improve on nature....

My meat will always come from somethig that was walking round just the other day...

potatofree
Sun, Aug-14-05, 22:19
My meat will always come from somethig that was walking round just the other day...

If you think about that too long, it seems a bit creepy too, even if you don't mentally picture the whole butchering process....

kevinm
Sun, Aug-14-05, 23:17
Manufactured meat hum...it does give new meaning to spam in a can.

tie_guy
Mon, Aug-15-05, 06:32
I am hoping that the meat manufacturing will be used for other applications besides replacing it with actual meat in the food supply. Eventually maybe they could produce entire organs in order to save lives, or maybe they could use it during a long term mission to deep space. It could also be used to help with people who may be too poor to afford the real deal. I don't know, if it is chemically identical to real meat then it might not end up being that bad. Of course knowing the food industry I am probably wrong -- they will probabily use it to make a meat like substance that has an infinite shelf life.

Pugzilla
Mon, Aug-15-05, 08:16
Soylent Green is......people! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

grandpa
Mon, Aug-15-05, 09:35
Imagine what people 2,000 years ago would think of our agriculture today - horses made of iron tilling the ground. These iron horses don't eat, but drink flamable poison. The entire harvesting, processing, distribution, retailing, home preparation would be beyond fiction to them.

tom sawyer
Mon, Aug-15-05, 10:01
This must be how the Jetsons got their meat.

Nancy LC
Mon, Aug-15-05, 10:06
Anyone remember in "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe" how the beef was genetically engineer to come out and introduce itself and reassure the patrons that it wanted to be eaten. :)

ProfGumby
Mon, Aug-15-05, 19:07
If you think about that too long, it seems a bit creepy too, even if you don't mentally picture the whole butchering process....

Eh not too creepy....And the butchering process doesn't scare me, I hunt as well.

I cannot speak to how the animals are handled in large commercial operations but some very good friends of mine raise grass fed cattle, and some other good friends have a small USDA certified meat processing plant...so I am reasonably certain how well most of the beef, and such I get from them, is treated and handled.

dannysk
Tue, Aug-16-05, 05:12
<< It could also be used to help with people who may be too poor to afford the real deal. >>

Powdered meat was the first meat product from Argentina to reach Europe (before refrigerated shipping). It reached the city poor, who had no source of protein, and saved many lives.

danny