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4beans4me
Thu, Aug-11-05, 22:22
Teens struggle daily with weight-loss at camp
Tuesday, August 9, 2005


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By ALINE MENDELSOHN
KNIGHT RIDDER NEWS SERVICE


LAKE WALES, Fla. - The taunting started in first grade.

Flabby Abby, Abby the cow, the other kids would call her. Abby Lewis told her mother she wanted to go to school in China, because it was the farthest place from Florida she could imagine.

Instead of China, Abby, now 16, ended up going to boarding school in Massachusetts and spending summers at a weight-loss camp in Lake Wales, Fla.

Abby, who lives near Naples, Fla., has attended the camp for eight years. She has not managed to maintain her weight loss. But Cindy Lewis says her daughter did maintain something else: friends she has known for years.

These days, shedding pounds is only one aspect of weight-loss camps for youths. Friendships play a key role in the camp experience, directors say.

"A lot of these kids don't have much of a social life at home, and (the social environment) is as important, if not more so, than the weight loss itself," says Tony Sparber, founder of New Image Weight Loss Camps.

For about $1,000 a week, New Image offers a controlled environment for boys and girls ages 7-18 at camps in Florida, Pennsylvania and California. Kids can stay up to seven weeks.

Camp Vanguard, New Image's branch in Lake Wales, attracts youths from throughout the nation and a few from other countries. Each year, the camp hosts dozens of repeat customers - some who hope to sustain their weight loss, others who want to start over completely, and still others who are there simply to be with their friends.

During a cooking class on a recent Thursday, teenage campers are learning to bake low-fat chocolate-chip cookies. At the end of the class, each camper is awarded one small cookie.

"Can I have another one?" a girl asks.

"No," the nutritionist says.

At home, many campers overeat because no one is around to tell them "no."

Here, they have no choice.

A look around the camp reveals a varied group. Some are obese and risk developing diabetes; others are here to shed some vanity pounds. A few don't seem to belong here at all, such as a 12-year-old girl who says her father sent her to camp to pare down to 93 pounds.

Although weight-loss camps were once associated with the morbidly obese, that is no longer the case. Reports of the childhood obesity epidemic have spurred more parents to send even slightly chubby kids to camp before their weight spirals out of control, Sparber says.

Some parents send their kids here with unrealistic expectations, says Maxine Spadaro, director of the Lake Wales camp. Her goal is to teach kids eating and exercise habits that can be integrated into their lives back home.

Most of the kids are overweight because they exercise too little and eat too much.

Why they overeat can be complicated. For some, it's tough to avoid school-lunch temptations, such as pizza and fries. Others eat to cope with depression, their parents' divorce, loneliness or stress.

Isabel Jimenez of Orlando, Fla., doesn't fit the profile of a lonely couch potato.

Isabel, 15, has a dizzying schedule: In addition to Advanced Placement courses, she's on six sports teams and often stays up studying until 2 a.m. Stress contributes to her overeating, she says. And she has grown up on a traditional Puerto Rican diet of rich and fried foods.

At camp last year, Isabel lost 27 pounds. She gained 10 back and returned this summer - using her own money - to lose more weight and spend time with her camp friends.

She is dropping pounds because of the camp's regimented schedule.

The kids rise at 7:45, eat three meals and two snacks at set times, and spend hours a day in physical activities, such as basketball, swimming, weightlifting and yoga classes. It's a drastic change for kids used to channel surfing and grazing from the refrigerator.

Portion-controlled meals add up to 1,600-1,800 calories a day.

When they return home, Spadaro says, about 50 percent of the kids maintain their weight loss. Their success depends largely on their home environment.

Kim Young of Clearwater, Fla., lost 16 pounds last year and 12 more this year. Kim, 15, kept the weight off with the support of her parents, who also made a commitment to healthful eating.

Derek Sanderson's parents also revamped their diet. Derek, 14, first came to New Image four years ago from St. Louis when he was 50 pounds overweight. After his first summer, Derek regained some of the 25 pounds he lost.

His parents have cut back on fatty foods.

"My goal was to definitely try to keep healthy food in the household, try to limit the soda and the sugar," says Derek's father, Randy Sanderson.

This time, Derek, who always has been athletic, hopes to maintain his weight loss by participating in even more sports - including football, basketball and baseball.

Unlike Derek, many campers have shied away from sports.

"These kids are always picked last, and their self-esteem goes down the toilet," Spadaro says. "Nobody gets picked last here."

In a dorm room strewn with clothes and cosmetics, teenage girls straighten their hair with irons, curl mascara on their lashes, swipe gloss over their lips.

As they prepare for a camp dance, the girls talk about not eating in front of others - even small amounts - because they're afraid of someone telling them, "You don't need that."

They talk about envying skinny friends who wear bikinis.

"I have no friends," a 16-year-old blurts out suddenly.

"We're your friends," another girl says.

Of course, camp is not free of the social rules that dictate kids' regular lives. The girls describe a pecking order in which the thinner kids are more popular.

And the most common insult might surprise you.

"I got called fat today," says Monica Barnhill, 15, a camper from Murfreesboro, Tenn.

At the same time, without a trace of irony, the girls call their setting a "fat farm."

One group of teenage girls has named its basketball team "The Hunger Squad." One camper wears a "WWJD for a Klondike Bar" T-shirt.

At dinner, as kids munch on veggie burgers, salads and watermelon, a boy and girl quietly let their fingertips touch.

Puppy love proliferates at Camp Vanguard, even if only for weeklong relationships.

Alex Griffin's relationship has lasted for weeks - eons in the camp dating scene. The 14-year-old Jacksonville, Fla., girl beams when she talks about her boyfriend.

The couple will have to say goodbye soon, though, because camp days are dwindling down.

Some campers are happy about that.

Deborah Immel, 16, is counting the days until she can return to her New York home. She is frustrated that she has lost only 12 pounds in five weeks. She finds the constant activity too demanding.

"I can't wait to go home," she tells anyone who will listen. Fellow campers usually accuse her of having a bad attitude.

She doesn't care. She won't be back.

Kim, the Clearwater girl, already knows she will return. She stayed in touch with the friends she made last summer. Throughout the year, they helped each other stay on track with phone calls and e-mail.

This summer, the friends reunited and formed the Hunger Squad basketball team.

On Kim's last day of camp, she heads to the office to meet her family. The squad trails her.

Kim cries, burying her face in a University of Florida sweatshirt she is holding. Her family loads the SUV with her luggage as Kim and her friends embrace. Her dad starts the engine. Finally, she lets go, climbs into the car and pulls away.

The girls have hatched a plan to get together in December - next summer is too far away.

"I made the best friends of my life here," Kim says.

Weight-loss camps have been around for years.

The first weight-loss camps appeared in the '60s, says Abby Ellin, author of Teenage Waist- land: A Former Fat Kid Weighs In on Living Large, Losing Weight, and How Parents Can (and Can't) Help.

Today, about a dozen weight-loss camps are scattered throughout the country. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that 16 percent of American children ages 6-19 are overweight. Forty years ago that number was between 4 percent and 5 percent.

Kids often do slim down at weight-loss camps, experts say. But many struggle to keep the weight off once they return to normal life.

"Losing weight while they're away from home doesn't necessarily translate into improved health in the long run," says Marc S. Jacobson, professor of pediatrics at Schneider Children's Hospital in New York. "Much of the problem of childhood obesity is related to the child's environment. The real issue is how do we bring that environment with them and change the home environment so it is weight friendly?"

Weight-loss camp may give kids a break and a chance to be around kids with similar problems, says Cynthia Sass, registered dietitian and spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association.

Still, Sass says, kids may resent being shipped off to camp.

Some of her young clients, she says, tell her they felt "they were being punished, like they were being sent away," Sass says.

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-12-05, 07:27
and the reason these kids can not lose weight is because their schools are telling them that these are healthy foods:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=15174&catid=member&imageuser=20510

forget that kids don't exercise -- who can exercise when they are eating all that crap and their insulin is rising and falling like a roller coaster.

Put them on a low carb diet and they will seem remarkable progress - weight wise, health wise, exercise wise. And if they stay away from high glycemic foods then the weight will stay off forever.

But I'll bet no one is telling the kids that.

Collateral
Fri, Aug-12-05, 16:28
The part of them cooking Low-fat chocolate cookies was enough for me to stop reading.

I remember this story on a fat camp on CNN where this kid who was like close to 600 lbs said that he ate 60,000 calories a day. He goes to fat camp and loses alot of weight but what were they eating at camP? You guessed it low fat foods. No more than 12 grams of fat per day at that camp. I congraduate the kid on losing that much weight and i just hope he can keep it off but eating a low fat diet, it sure makes his chances pretty slim.

kathleen24
Fri, Aug-12-05, 16:28
and the reason these kids can not lose weight is because their schools are telling them that these are healthy foods:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=15174&catid=member&imageuser=20510

forget that kids don't exercise -- who can exercise when they are eating all that crap and their insulin is rising and falling like a roller coaster.

Put them on a low carb diet and they will seem remarkable progress - weight wise, health wise, exercise wise. And if they stay away from high glycemic foods then the weight will stay off forever.

But I'll bet no one is telling the kids that.

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Shall we take this to the war zone?

As a teacher in a school with a long, gleaming row of junk food machines, I take daily (in session, anyway) exception to their presence, and to the consumption of these foods by my students. I had students who were foolish enough to brag on their consumption of sodas--some drinking half-a-dozen or more a day. I have students who come to class late because "there was a long line at the candy machine." I fight for the attention of middle-school students who are climbing up on a sugar high--and struggle to keep awake the ones who are coming down off of one. I see beautiful healthy young people who are setting themselves up for a lifetime of health issues, including diabetes, obesity, cancer, and tooth decay (especially ironic with students who are wearing braces.) I see their education being compromised by their crappy diets. I hear other teachers giving lip service to the idea that this endless procession of junk food isn't good for their students, then permitting them to drink soda and eat candy bars in their classrooms during class. The machines are sacred and untouchable because they fund the sports travel. AND YOU SAID (snort) "I bet no-one [SNORT] is telling the kids that."


Mister, you lose that bet.

My students well know that this stuff is not good for them. They hear it from me anytime I see them with it, they hear it from the diabetes prevention educators that come into the school. They know that they are not allowed to bring sugar snacks into my classroom. They weren't at our meeting, but administrators were when teachers stood up and said, "We've got to improve the nutritional offerings for students at lunch." Nothing changed. Students hear teachers say that that stuff will rot out their teeth and brains, and make them fat and give them diabetes. After awhile, it's just "Your lips are moving, but all I hear is blah-blah-blah." They know I'll write them up as tardy if they linger in the hallway to chug a cola before class--big deal. (Think of it--12-13-14 year old kids chugging Cokes, so they can then go into class to --learn???I DON"T THINK SO!!!

As a teacher, there is a limit on the effect that I can have on the decision about having the soda and candy machines in the school. I have suffered enough administrative pats on the head for being anti-soda-machine. You know who's going to make that difference? YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE?????? Parents and communities rising up to take back their children's health, that's who. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, Mr. K.E. Baldwin, to get those machines out of the school system? What have you done about the school lunch menu? When was the last time you called a member of the school board and said, "Get them out of there before I get my child out of there?"

Just because that's what's being offered, doesn't mean that no one is telling them otherwise.

And speculating that no one at schools knows enough or cares enough to tell these children otherwise is not fair, wise, or kind.

End of rant. I'm fine now.

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-12-05, 17:08
deleted. misunderstood.

kathleen24
Fri, Aug-12-05, 17:51
KE,

The above was meant half tongue-in-cheek, and I came back to edit it to make sure that this came through. Apparently I did a lousy job of clarifying that, so I offer my apologies. Mostly, it was an outpouring of frustration with my banging my head against this wall, so hearing that no one was trying to change it went down sideways.

What I was responding to--and what I DO disagree with-- was your statement speculating that no-one was trying to tell the students otherwise, when I (and I know I'm not the only one) fight this battle daily.

No, I don't dispute that this is a real menu--and the grits are a dead giveaway that it's real, and really from NC. :lol:

Nothing in my post should have suggested that low fat/high sugar is a healthy way for kids to eat. Rather the contrary, I should think.

You said, "I disagree with these opinions and are fighting against them."
I'm very pleased to hear that you are taking specific steps to fight this important problem in the schools, though you didn't mention what they are. If you haven't tried these yet, I'd suggest the following:

*go to school board meetings and discuss your concerns
*write to all the members of your local school board letting them know how you feel
*get the local health care providers on your team: doctors, dentists, public health clinics
*write letters to the editor of your local paper bringing these concerns to public attention
*use the forum of radio station call-in shows to get people thinking and talking about health issues regarding student lunches, and access to soda and candy
*get local farmers' market/growing cooperatives interested in marketing produce to local schools

We need more parents and community members who are willing to do that. But please don't doubt that there are people within the system who also feel that way, and want to see this change. It will take more than our lonely voices crying in the wilderness--it takes a community to change this--but it has been done elsewhere, can be done, and should be done for the sake of our children.

So. Am I forgiven?

Dodger
Fri, Aug-12-05, 18:13
Kathleen,

The 'solution' to the soda machines in schools that many school boards have come up with is to allow only juice and flavored waters in them. Unfortunately a lot of juices are just as loaded with sugars (although htey are natural) as the soft drinks that they are replacing. The vast majority of parents are convinced that juices are heathly.

As for the meals, the federal government requires them to meet the USDA standards which are low-fat of course.

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-12-05, 18:39
The above was meant half tongue-in-cheek, ...
So. Am I forgiven?

I apologize, I did not read the sarcasm. Of course you are forgiven. I deleted my response.

Regarding fighting the schools -- where do I start fighting the schools? They do so many stupid things -- I would like to clean house. I don't want to get into politics -- but you have national groups giving our superintendent of schools national honors -- when I think parents should bring a class action suit against him.

I am joining groups that oppose him and want to make sweeping changes.

On the good side, I believe they are making some small changes to reduce carbohydrates in schools. IMHO, they are making small changes -- not the huge changes that they need to make.

I tell my kids everyday -- stop eating high glycemic. But they are confused because the "health and nutrition experts" at school are telling them just the opposite. I feel sorry for the kids getting caught in the middle of this.

One of my favorite sayings is - telling a kid eating a high glycemic diet to exercise more - is like beating a dead horse telling it to go faster. IMHO, You have to cut the insulin first - then kids will have the energy to exercise.

But several times per week there is yet another story saying "eat less fat" and "exercise more".

I have another article analyzing the carb intake of your typical school kid -- let me see if I can find it.

kathleen24
Fri, Aug-12-05, 18:45
Mike,

I know, I know, I know.

I've found a very effective lesson is for kids to calculate out just how much sugar the typical 12 oz soda contains--and to pile it up in teaspoons--then multiply it by the number of cans they drink. It's about ten teaspoons per day, which means my student who drinks six sodas a day was consuming about 60 teaspoons, or roughly 1-1/3 cups of dissolved sugar daily.

I've also found the drop-a-tooth-in-cola lesson effective.

It's the old lead-a-horse-to-water thing. Sometimes the kids just think it's funny--but sometimes you really get through to them. There are several students I know who don't drink soda anymore because of health concerns. That's encouraging.

Some of them shrug and say, "You're not paying my dental bills, why would you care?" For a suggestion of how I respond to that, take a look at the rant above. . .

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-12-05, 18:58
I've been posting a lot of news stories about all these million $ studies to figure out why kids are fat / obese. Let me give you my analysis for free. (okay everyone that reads this needs to mail me a low carb cookie).

I went to school today to have lunch with my kids and the menu was: hamburger with bun, potatoes, peas, milk, and cookie.

Let's see how many carbs that is:

hamburger - 40 grams of carbs
potatoes - 30 grams of carbs
peas - 12 grams
milk - I read it off the carton -- chocolate milk is 25 grams of sugar (same as most juice boxes)
cookie - 20 grams of carbs

So one meal is 127 grams of carbohydrates.

Assuming that an average elementary school kid is 50 pounds, and I weigh 250 pounds, that is like me eating 5 times that many carbohydrates or 635 grams of carbohydrates for one meal! :yikes

Multiply that times three meals, add in two snacks that is the equivalent of 2,300 grams of carbohydrates (NOT calories) per day.

(127 carbs per meal * 3 meals) + (45 carbs per snack * 2 snacks) = 470 grams of carbohydrates per day. If the average kid weighs 50 pounds then multiply that times 5 = over 2,300 carbs.

So a little elementary school kid that weighs 50 pounds eating 470 grams of carbs per day is like me eating 2,300 carbs per day.

Adults only needs about 50 grams of carbohydrates. So little kids probably need half that? I think it is safe to say that little kids are eating at least 10 times the amount of carbs they need per day -- probably more like 20 times.

A McDonald's double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries, and large sweet ice tea is only 136 grams of carbs. So I got fat eating the equivalent of 136 grams of carbohydrates per meal but the schools are feeding kids the equivalent (based on weight) of 4 TIMES THAT! :yikes

But the schools won't let me bring McDonald's into the school! They say it is unhealthy!!!

But not one multi-million $ study as even suggested this might be the problem. See why I am so :sarcasm ?

kathleen24
Fri, Aug-12-05, 19:15
I apologize, I did not read the sarcasm. Of course you are forgiven. I deleted my response.



I should have been more careful about how I phrased that. Thanks for understanding.


Regarding fighting the schools -- where do I start fighting the schools? They do so many stupid things -- I would like to clean house. I don't want to get into politics -- but you have national groups giving our superintendent of schools national honors -- when I think parents should bring a class action suit against him.



I understand your frustration. Get someone in the local news media interested--the `national honors' twist can make it more readable. It's tough fighting the system--but I think too many people nowadays say, "If they don't like it, they can always homeschool." And the problems don't go away, just the noisy parents.


I am joining groups that oppose him and want to make sweeping changes.


You go. Have you thought about running for the school board?


On the good side, I believe they are making some small changes to reduce carbohydrates in schools. IMHO, they are making small changes -- not the huge changes that they need to make.


And to be realistic, not everyone struggles--yet--with obesity and IR and other problems. Those of us that do are much more aware of them as problems. On the flip side, a lot of school systems no longer have a daily recess or p.e. for students--this is madness. The mind cannot concieve what the butt cannot endure--even if they wanted to exercise more, they can't.

I tell my kids everyday -- stop eating high glycemic. But they are confused because the "health and nutrition experts" at school are telling them just the opposite. I feel sorry for the kids getting caught in the middle of this.

One of my favorite sayings is - telling a kid eating a high glycemic diet to exercise more - is like beating a dead horse telling it to go faster. IMHO, You have to cut the insulin first - then kids will have the energy to exercise.

But several times per week there is yet another story saying "eat less fat" and "exercise more".

I have another article analyzing the carb intake of your typical school kid -- let me see if I can find it.

Keep it simple--most kids will glaze over when you start talking glycemic. Tell your children that too much of anything white isn't good for them--if you can get them to cut back on rice, sugar, flour, potatoes, grits, and milk, that will cut out a lot of the toxins. (Tell them if it's in there, it counts. Chocolate isn't good just because it isn't white.) Fruits, veggies, PECANS (boy, I miss fresh pecans!) meat, fish, poultry, eggs are what they need to base their diets on. That's something they can visualize--glycemic index is more abstract. Also, if the frig is always stocked with the best that your garden and grocery has to offer--greens, bright colored salad makings, steaks, etc., they'll get too fussy and particular to want to fill up with crapola.

The best way to make them understand is to keep doing exactly what we are doing--change ourselves. They are much more open to the lessons that they see then the ones they hear, or so I've found. As we lose weight and get more active, they'll notice and remember how we did it. They may have to learn it the hard way once they no longer have a child's metabolism keeping them thin, but at least they'll have the tools for making changes at an earlier age than we did.

And one more suggestion? Rent the movie "Supersize Me" and watch it with your kids. It does make an impact. . .

Thanks again for understanding my twisted sense of humor. . .
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