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Squarecube
Thu, Jun-02-05, 15:39
Combining diets best way to lose weight -- expert

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050602/hl_nm/health_obesity_dc;_ylt=Atyk2n7OL13O4RfNqP0D4KkQ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


By Patricia Reaney Thu Jun 2,11:22 AM ET



ATHENS (Reuters) - Combining the best components of low-carbohydrate and low-fat diets could be the most effective way to lose weight and keep it off, a leading obesity expert said on Thursday.


Low carbohydrate diets such as Atkins, which largely exclude fruit, vegetables and grains, produce a greater weight loss initially than reduced-fat plans but in the long-term they are no better and may have side effects.

Professor Arne Astrup, of the Institute of Human Nutrition in Copenhagen, Denmark believes adding the best aspects of both could be the answer.

"Combining some of the good things from the low carb with the good things from the low fat diets seems to be satiating and also to enhance weight loss," he told the European Congress on Obesity.

The more extreme the diet is, the less likely people are to adhere to it, he added.

"You cannot live without carbohydrates for years."

Astrup and his colleagues, who carried out a comparative study of different diets, also found side effects such as diarrhoea, muscle weakness and dehydration in people on low carbohydrate diets.

"In the long-term we fear that this low intake of fruits and whole grains could increase the risk of colon cancer," he added.

Studies have consistently shown that a 10 percent reduction of fat in the diet produces weight loss in overweight and obese patients, according to Astrup.

His suggestion for the optimum diet was 25-30 percent of calories from fat, between 15-25 percent from protein in the form of lean meat and dairy products and 45-55 percent from carbohydrates consisting of fruit, vegetable, whole grains and legumes.

The popularity of low-carb diets which encouraged people to shun bread and pasta in favor of protein such as meat and cheese has faded. In Europe the low glycemic index (GI) diet has become popular.

GI measures how efficiently the body can metabolise carbohydrates. It ranks carbohydrates by how much a person's blood sugar rises immediately after eating.

Starchy foods such as white bread, rice and potatoes tend to have a high glycemic index while whole grain breads and pasta and legumes have a lower GI.

However, Astrup said there was little evidence that low GI foods were better than high GI foods for weight control.

Despite a multi-billion dollar diet industry, the number of overweight and obese people is increasing worldwide. Thirty percent of adults, 60 million people in the United States alone, are obese. European countries, where rates range from 10-25 percent, are not far behind.


About 2,000 delegates from 80 countries are attending the four-day meeting.

tie_guy
Thu, Jun-02-05, 16:50
So basically they are saying that low carb diets work but you shouldn't use them anyway. Instead you should combine low carb and typical low fat diets by consuming 55% of your calories from carbs? That seems like combining skiny dipping with swimming in a bathing suit. Oh and we don't believe in the GI index so combine low carb with low fat by just ignoring the low carb part. Seems logical to me. After all by reducing fat you can decrease your weight even though I went years staying away from all fats and yet my weight just went up and up. Oh and you can't live without carbs but you can go the rest of your life without eating fat?

322432
Thu, Jun-02-05, 16:59
Low carb bashing; He says that the number of overweight and obese people are increasing, then recommends the very diet that caused the increase. I've about given up on these idiots. I think that they need to cut out all carbs for a month or so and detoxify so that their brains will begain to work in a logical manner again.

kwikdriver
Thu, Jun-02-05, 17:08
They are recommending a low fat, high carb diet. It isn't a "combination" of anything. The low fat people seem to be winning the propaganda wars with ease, aided by an almost incredibly vapid and clueless press. How could anyone look at a diet with 50% carbs as a "combination" of low carb and low fat? Why didn't the reporter explain this seeming contradiction?

Trinsdad
Thu, Jun-02-05, 20:28
which largely exclude fruit, vegetables .... no it doesn't

Don't they EVER READ???

H20Goddess
Fri, Jun-03-05, 06:39
which largely exclude fruit, vegetables .... no it doesn't

Don't they EVER READ???


Apparently not.

Roma-girl
Fri, Jun-03-05, 16:05
""""You cannot live without carbohydrates for years.""""

Then it's lucky that on Atkins one doesn't!

This 'expert' doesn't even know the difference between LOW and NO!

ryaxnb
Sat, Jun-04-05, 11:15
How about Somersize? Or South Beach? Like Atkins, but with larger amounts of carbs allowed.

BawdyWench
Sat, Jun-04-05, 11:39
In Europe the low glycemic index (GI) diet has become popular.

This is the line that always irks me. Whatever they do in Europe seems to be "better" or "wiser" or something. In France they do this. In Spain they do this. Who cares? We all (on this board, anyway) know what works. Articles like this that try to paint a broad stroke miss the point. Yes, some people do better with low GI diets, some do better with high-fat/low-carb diets, some do better with low-fat/high/carb (yes, some do), and some do better somewhere in the middle.

In general, I believe in the LC lifestyle, with a reliance on protein and fat, since that's how we evolved. Period. Individual differences count too. I know that when a nutritionist put me on a strict no-fat/high-carb diet and had me doing strenuous aerobic exercise 5 days a week, I gained 20 pounds in a matter of a couple months.

rbednarski
Sat, Jun-04-05, 12:27
Combining diets best way to lose weight -- expert
ATHENS (Reuters) - Combining the best components of low-carbohydrate and low-fat diets could be the most effective way to lose weight and keep it off, a leading obesity expert said on Thursday.


Low carbohydrate diets such as Atkins, which largely exclude fruit, vegetables and grains, produce a greater weight loss initially than reduced-fat plans but in the long-term they are no better and may have side effects.

. . .

"You cannot live without carbohydrates for years."



Don't really have to read past this. This so-called "expert" demonstrates in these two statements that he does not have a clue as to what Atkins is all about. So why should we believe anything he has to say about it? I eat far more veggies on Atkins than I ever ate before.

Rich

rbednarski
Sat, Jun-04-05, 12:47
Astrup and his colleagues, who carried out a comparative study of different diets, also found side effects such as diarrhoea, muscle weakness and dehydration in people on low carbohydrate diets.Can't remember the last time someone here complained about low carb causing them diarrhoea. Generaly the problem, if there is one, is the opposite.

"In the long-term we fear that this low intake of fruits and whole grains could increase the risk of colon cancer," he added.Ah, "we fear", not "we know because of studies on low carb people".

Studies have consistently shown that a 10 percent reduction of fat in the diet produces weight loss in overweight and obese patients, according to Astrup.Bet almost anything that none of these "studies" was done using low carb people. He's using simplistic 2+2=4 logic which is fine in math but in something as complicated as human metabolism is both absurd and is at the heart of the fact that the medical industry has told us more things that turn out to be wrong about nutrition that I could count on both hands and feet. And I'm not just talking about low carb I'm talking about the whole ball of wax. Anyone remember being told how much better margarine is for you than butter? Or that eggs are evil because of cholesterol? Or, or, or. . .

For someone eating a high carb diet reducing fat will lead to some weightloss because the fat is additional raw material for the insulin to order stored. For low carb people, though the dietary fat primes the pump for burning body fat because the low carb keeps the insulin production in check.

His suggestion for the optimum diet was 25-30 percent of calories from fat, between 15-25 percent from protein in the form of lean meat and dairy products and 45-55 percent from carbohydrates consisting of fruit, vegetable, whole grains and legumes.And where are his double blind studies showing that this works better that low-carb in 1) weight loss, 2) persistence, 3) blood sugar, cholesterol, and blood pressure - the big three of metabolic disorder - levels.

The popularity of low-carb diets which encouraged people to shun bread and pasta in favor of protein such as meat and cheese has faded. In Europe the low glycemic index (GI) diet has become popular.Well they do it in Europe so it must be right.

Despite a multi-billion dollar diet industry, the number of overweight and obese people is increasing worldwide. Thirty percent of adults, 60 million people in the United States alone, are obese. European countries, where rates range from 10-25 percent, are not far behind.Maybe that is because most of that multi-billion dollars is spent on low-fat diets of various stripes?

Rich