new obesity findings

[archie]

At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay for
whatever they want said regardless of the cost to the american
people. Isn't this all really about "cost" (think $$$$$).
Science is being replaced by sales. Very disturbing.

[Andrew B.]

archie@anet.net wrote:
>
> At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay for
> whatever they want said regardless of the cost to the
> american people. Isn't this all really about "cost" (think
> $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very disturbing.

Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter the
marketeers:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Jeff]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> archie@anet.net wrote:
>>
>> At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay
>> for whatever they want said regardless of the cost to the
>> american people. Isn't this all really about "cost" (think
>> $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very
>> disturbing.
>
> Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter
> the marketeers:

Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
published about this diet.

Jeff

[Andrew B.]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> > archie@anet.net wrote:
> >>
> >> At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay
> >> for whatever they want said regardless of the cost to the
> >> american people. Isn't this all really about "cost"
> >> (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very
> >> disturbing.
> >
> > Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter
> > the marketeers:
>
> Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
> published about this diet.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/press.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Jeff]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> Jeff wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>> message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>> > archie@anet.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >> At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay
>> >> for whatever they want said regardless of the cost to
>> >> the american people. Isn't this all really about "cost"
>> >> (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very
>> >> disturbing.
>> >
>> > Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter
>> > the marketeers:
>>
>> Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
>> published about this diet.
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:

The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.

And the Approach has not been described in the peer-reviewed
literature.

Jeff

<garbage deleted

[Andrew B.]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> > Jeff wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> >> in message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> >> > archie@anet.net wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can
> >> >> pay for whatever they want said regardless of the cost
> >> >> to the american people. Isn't this all really about
> >> >> "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by
> >> >> sales. Very disturbing.
> >> >
> >> > Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
> >> > counter the marketeers:
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
> >> published about this diet.
> >
> > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.

We are back full circle:

Who knows an invention better... the user or the inventor?

Here's a hint to help you answer the question more easily:

http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Thorsten S]

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>>message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
>>
>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>>>>message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>>>>
>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can pay
>>>>>>for whatever they want said regardless of the cost to
>>>>>>the american people. Isn't this all really about "cost"
>>>>>>(think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales. Very
>>>>>>disturbing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to counter
>>>>>the marketeers:
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
>>>>published about this diet.
>>>
>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>>
>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
>
>
> We are back full circle:
>
> Who knows an invention better... the user or the inventor?

When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
However, it is still a car to other people.

> Here's a hint to help you answer the question more easily:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe

This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully following
your diet for 5 years is really funny.

Regards,

Thorsten

[Andrew B.]

Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> > Jeff wrote:
> >
> >>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> >>message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> >>
> >>>Jeff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> >>>>in message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can
> >>>>>>pay for whatever they want said regardless of the cost
> >>>>>>to the american people. Isn't this all really about
> >>>>>>"cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by
> >>>>>>sales. Very disturbing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
> >>>>>counter the marketeers:
> >>>>
> >>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
> >>>>published about this diet.
> >>>
> >>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
> >>
> >>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
> >
> >
> > We are back full circle:
> >
> > Who knows an invention better... the user or the inventor?
>
> When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
> However, it is still a car to other people.

The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the
users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better
name, the users or the inventors?

"Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins**
arguments."

> > Here's a hint to help you answer the question more easily:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe
>
> This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully following
> your diet for 5 years is really funny.

Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than
625,500 people have learned this. Your inability to learn this
does not bode well for the genes that you and your ancestors
have carried and yet, God in His infinite mercy has spared
your genes even though natural selection would have wiped them
out. Therefore, it follows that you are living proof that
there is no evolution:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

Again you have been vanquished by the truth as you always will
be. Nevertheless, you will remain in my prayers, dear
Thorsten, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Jeff]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:4274C4B1.885C1887@heartmdphd.com...
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>> > Jeff wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
>> >>in message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
>> >>
>> >>>Jeff wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
>> >>>>in message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can
>> >>>>>>pay for whatever they want said regardless of the
>> >>>>>>cost to the american people. Isn't this all really
>> >>>>>>about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced
>> >>>>>>by sales. Very disturbing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
>> >>>>>counter the marketeers:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
>> >>>>published about this diet.
>> >>>
>> >>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>> >>
>> >>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
>> >
>> >
>> > We are back full circle:
>> >
>> > Who knows an invention better... the user or the
>> > inventor?
>>
>> When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
>> However, it is still a car to other people.
>
> The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the
> users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better
> name, the users or the inventors?
>
> "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins**
> arguments."
>
>> > Here's a hint to help you answer the question more
>> > easily:
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe
>>
>> This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully following
>> your diet for 5 years is really funny.

(...)

> Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than
> 625,500 people have learned this. Your inability to learn
> this does not bode well for the genes that you and your
> ancestors have carried

nice personal attack.

> and yet, God in His infinite mercy has spared your genes
> even though natural selection would have wiped them out.

Actually, it was natural selection that let his genes survive.

> Therefore, it follows that you are living proof that there
> is no evolution:

Another personal attack.

The evidence that evolution occurs is overwhelming.

http://www.nationalacademies.org/attic/evolution/index.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/

You have recently tried to disprove evolution, but failed, in
this newsgroup.

You can't overcome the truth.

Jeff

<garbage deleted

[Andrew B.]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:4274C4B1.885C1887@heartmdphd.com...
> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> >> > Jeff wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> >> >>in message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> >> >>
> >> >>>Jeff wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> >> >>>>wrote in message
> >> >>>>news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists
> >> >>>>>>can pay for whatever they want said regardless of
> >> >>>>>>the cost to the american people. Isn't this all
> >> >>>>>>really about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being
> >> >>>>>>replaced by sales. Very disturbing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
> >> >>>>>counter the marketeers:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have
> >> >>>>been published about this diet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
> >> >>
> >> >>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We are back full circle:
> >> >
> >> > Who knows an invention better... the user or the
> >> > inventor?
> >>
> >> When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
> >> However, it is still a car to other people.
> >
> > The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the
> > users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the
> > better name, the users or the inventors?
> >
> > "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins**
> > arguments."
> >
> >> > Here's a hint to help you answer the question more
> >> > easily:
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe
> >>
> >> This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully
> >> following your diet for 5 years is really funny.
>
> (...)
>
> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than
> > 625,500 people have learned this. Your inability to learn
> > this does not bode well for the genes that you and your
> > ancestors have carried
>
> nice personal attack.

It is understandable why you believe what I have written is a
personal attack on you since you share the same genes.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Manky Badg]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...

> You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in
> Lord Christ's holy name.
>
> May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal
> Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal
> life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

OK if we're abandoning science in favour of religion, how
about this one:

I'm a fat sod. That's the way God made me. Therefore that's
the way God wants me. Therefore if I partake in any kind of
weight loss scheme/diet/call it what you will is going against
God's holy will Therefore if I attempt to lose weight I will
burn in hell fire.

Just a thought....

[Jeff]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)

>> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More
>> > than 625,500 people have learned this. Your inability to
>> > learn this does not bode well for the genes that you and
>> > your ancestors have carried
>>
>> nice personal attack.
>
> It is understandable why you believe what I have written is
> a personal attack on you since you share the same genes.

Another personal attack.

<garbage deleted

[Andrew B.]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)
>
> >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More
> >> > than 625,500 people have learned this. Your inability
> >> > to learn this does not bode well for the genes that you
> >> > and your ancestors have carried
> >>
> >> nice personal attack.
> >
> > It is understandable why you believe what I have written
> > is a personal attack on you since you share the same
> > genes.
>
> Another personal attack.

How you feel remains understandable:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Andrew B.]

Manky Badger wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
>
> > You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in
> > Lord Christ's holy name.
> >
> > May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal
> > Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have
> > eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting
> > kingdom.
>
> OK if we're abandoning science in favour of religion, how
> about this one:
>
> I'm a fat sod. That's the way God made me.

It truth that is **not** the way He made you:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Garyg]

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)
>
> >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More
> >> > than 625,500 people have learned this. Your inability
> >> > to learn this does not bode well for the genes that you
> >> > and your ancestors have carried
> >>
> >> nice personal attack.
> >
> > It is understandable why you believe what I have written
> > is a personal attack on you since you share the same
> > genes.
>
> Another personal attack.
>
> <garbage deleted>
>

Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting people more
lately? In a thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was
questioning his 2PD was "mentally ill". Nice behavior for a
self-described Christian to engage in on a Sunday, eh?

GG

[Andrew B.]

GaryG wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> > message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)
> >
> > >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More
> > >> > than 625,500 people have learned this. Your inability
> > >> > to learn this does not bode well for the genes that
> > >> > you and your ancestors have carried
> > >>
> > >> nice personal attack.
> > >
> > > It is understandable why you believe what I have written
> > > is a personal attack on you since you share the same
> > > genes.
> >
> > Another personal attack.
> >
> > <garbage deleted>
> >
>
> Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting people
> more lately? In a thread last Sunday, he said that a woman
> who was questioning his 2PD was "mentally ill". Nice
> behavior for a self-described Christian to engage in on a
> Sunday, eh?

It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that the
truth has handed you:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Jeff]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com... (...)

> It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that
> the truth has handed you:

LOL. Thanks for the laughs Chung.

You haven't defeated anything, not even the truth, no matter
how much repeat
it.

Jeff

<garbage deletetd

[Garyg]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
> >
> > "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> > > in message news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com...
> > > (...)
> > >
> > > >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
> > > >> > More than
625,500
> > > >> > people have learned this. Your inability to learn
> > > >> > this does not
bode
> > > >> > well for the genes that you and your ancestors have
> > > >> > carried
> > > >>
> > > >> nice personal attack.
> > > >
> > > > It is understandable why you believe what I have
> > > > written is a
personal
> > > > attack on you since you share the same genes.
> > >
> > > Another personal attack.
> > >
> > > <garbage deleted>
> > >
> >
> > Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting people
> > more lately?
In a
> > thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was
> > questioning his 2PD was "mentally ill". Nice behavior for
> > a self-described Christian to engage
in
> > on a Sunday, eh?
>
> It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that
> the truth has handed you:

It seems you are still hearing voices proclaiming your
sainthood.

And, it seems that you are still unable to apologize to Stacey
for losing your temper and inferring that she had mental
illness. Thanks for posting the link to remind us of how you
treat others.

So it goes...

GG

>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

[Andrew B.]

GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> > GaryG wrote:
> > >
> > > "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> > > > wrote in message
> > > > news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)
> > > >
> > > > >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
> > > > >> > More than
> 625,500
> > > > >> > people have learned this. Your inability to learn
> > > > >> > this does not
> bode
> > > > >> > well for the genes that you and your ancestors
> > > > >> > have carried
> > > > >>
> > > > >> nice personal attack.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is understandable why you believe what I have
> > > > > written is a
> personal
> > > > > attack on you since you share the same genes.
> > > >
> > > > Another personal attack.
> > > >
> > > > <garbage deleted>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting people
> > > more lately?
> In a
> > > thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was
> > > questioning his 2PD was "mentally ill". Nice behavior
> > > for a self-described Christian to engage
> in
> > > on a Sunday, eh?
> >
> > It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that
> > the truth has handed you:
>
> It seems you are still hearing voices proclaiming your
> sainthood.

I do **not** believe in saints.

I do believe in the truth:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Andrew B.]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com... (...)
>
> > It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat that
> > the truth has handed you:
>
> LOL.

"Written laughter is silent despair."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Garyg]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:42757685.7B11980A@heartmdphd.com...
> GaryG wrote:
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> > message news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> > > GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> > > > > wrote in message
> > > > > news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a
> > > > > >> > diet. More than
> > 625,500
> > > > > >> > people have learned this. Your inability to
> > > > > >> > learn this does
not
> > bode
> > > > > >> > well for the genes that you and your ancestors
> > > > > >> > have carried
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> nice personal attack.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is understandable why you believe what I have
> > > > > > written is a
> > personal
> > > > > > attack on you since you share the same genes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another personal attack.
> > > > >
> > > > > <garbage deleted>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting
> > > > people more
lately?
> > In a
> > > > thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was
> > > > questioning his 2PD
was
> > > > "mentally ill". Nice behavior for a self-described
> > > > Christian to
engage
> > in
> > > > on a Sunday, eh?
> > >
> > > It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat
> > > that the truth
has
> > > handed you:
> >
> > It seems you are still hearing voices proclaiming your
> > sainthood.
>
> I do **not** believe in saints.
>

> And, it seems that you are still unable to apologize to
> Stacey for losing your temper and inferring that she had
> mental illness. Thanks for posting the link to remind us of
> how you treat others.
>
> So it goes...
>
> GG
>
> >
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

[Andrew B.]

"The untruthful often feel mistreated by the truth."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:42757685.7B11980A@heartmdphd.com...
> > GaryG wrote:
> > >
> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> > > in message news:4275674C.EBF18314@heartmdphd.com...
> > > > GaryG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:117agua6kh113c9@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> > > > > > wrote in message
> > > > > > news:42750F46.B487D7B9@heartmdphd.com... (...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a
> > > > > > >> > diet. More than
> > > 625,500
> > > > > > >> > people have learned this. Your inability to
> > > > > > >> > learn this does
> not
> > > bode
> > > > > > >> > well for the genes that you and your
> > > > > > >> > ancestors have carried
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> nice personal attack.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is understandable why you believe what I have
> > > > > > > written is a
> > > personal
> > > > > > > attack on you since you share the same genes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another personal attack.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <garbage deleted>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you noticed that Chung seems to be insulting
> > > > > people more
> lately?
> > > In a
> > > > > thread last Sunday, he said that a woman who was
> > > > > questioning his 2PD
> was
> > > > > "mentally ill". Nice behavior for a self-described
> > > > > Christian to
> engage
> > > in
> > > > > on a Sunday, eh?
> > > >
> > > > It seems you are still smarting from the sound defeat
> > > > that the truth
> has
> > > > handed you:
> > >
> > > It seems you are still hearing voices proclaiming your
> > > sainthood.
> >
> > I do **not** believe in saints.
> >
>
> > And, it seems that you are still unable to apologize to
> > Stacey for losing your temper and inferring that she had
> > mental illness. Thanks for posting the link to remind us
> > of how you treat others.
> >
> > So it goes...
> >
> > GG
> >
> > >
> > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A821CEA

[Garyg]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:42757BE2.C1468E19@heartmdphd.com...
> "The untruthful often feel mistreated by the truth."

Your opinion <shrug>.

>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
>
> The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

Ditto.

> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

[Andrew B.]

You seem unable to distinguish observation from opinion:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

** Suggested Reading:

(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

GaryG wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:42757BE2.C1468E19@heartmdphd.com...
> > "The untruthful often feel mistreated by the truth."
>
> Your opinion <shrug>.
>
> >
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A
> >
> > The way to the truth is straight and narrow:
>
> Ditto.
>
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

[Thorsten S]

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>>
>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
>>>>message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
>>>>>>in message news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can
>>>>>>>>pay for whatever they want said regardless of the cost
>>>>>>>>to the american people. Isn't this all really about
>>>>>>>>"cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being replaced by
>>>>>>>>sales. Very disturbing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
>>>>>>>counter the marketeers:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have been
>>>>>>published about this diet.
>>>>>
>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>>>>
>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
>>>
>>>
>>>We are back full circle:
>>>
>>>Who knows an invention better... the user or the inventor?
>>
>>When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
>>However, it is still a car to other people.
>
>
> The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the
> users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better
> name, the users or the inventors?

You miss an important point here. The inventors of the first
car invented something new and therefore had a chance to
create a new name for it as well.

All you did was to create just another diet. You may insist on
calling it anything else, but this won't change the fact that
it remains a diet according to conventional usage of language.

Btw., the idea to lose weight by reducing the amount of what
one eats is hardly new. In Germany it is colloquially known as
"FdH" (Friß die Hälfte = Eat only the half). The common
opinion among nutritionists and medical doctors is that this
is no good unless you also change _what_ you eat.

The only thing that is new to your diet is the bizzare notion
that the right amount to eat is 2 lbs for just about everyone,
regardless of whether they are 5 feet inactive females or 7
feet active males, regardless of whether they prefer sweets
and french fries or vegetables and fruits.

> "Men (and women) can't win arguments... The truth **wins**
> arguments."
>
>
>>>Here's a hint to help you answer the question more easily:
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/8fwbe
>>
>>This story of yours with the 625,550 successfully following
>>your diet for 5 years is really funny.
>
>
> Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. More than
> 625,500 people have learned this.

Is this the number of clicks on your homepage or how else did
you come by this number? Yeah, sure, I know: "All **will** be
revealed to those who choose to spend eternity with Lord
Jesus Christ."

> Your inability to learn this does not bode well for the
> genes that you and your ancestors have carried and yet, God
> in His infinite mercy has spared your genes even though
> natural selection would have wiped them out.

I guess it wil remain your secret why a quarrel with you over
semantics should have impaired the fitness of my ancestors.

> Therefore, it follows that you are living proof that there
> is no evolution:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

Once again you give evidence that you don't have a clue how
evolution works.

[...]

Thorsten

--
"Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of
evolution"

(Theodosius Dobzhansky)

[Andrew B.]

Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> >>
> >>>Jeff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
> >>>>in message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Jeff wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> >>>>>>wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can
> >>>>>>>>pay for whatever they want said regardless of the
> >>>>>>>>cost to the american people. Isn't this all really
> >>>>>>>>about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being
> >>>>>>>>replaced by sales. Very disturbing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
> >>>>>>>counter the marketeers:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have
> >>>>>>been published about this diet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
> >>>>
> >>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>We are back full circle:
> >>>
> >>>Who knows an invention better... the user or the
> >>>inventor?
> >>
> >>When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
> >>However, it is still a car to other people.
> >
> >
> > The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the
> > users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the
> > better name, the users or the inventors?
>
> You miss an important point here.

No I have not.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

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(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Bob]

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>>
>>>Thorsten Schier wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote
>>>>>>in message news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists can
>>>>>>>>>>pay for whatever they want said regardless of the
>>>>>>>>>>cost to the american people. Isn't this all really
>>>>>>>>>>about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is being
>>>>>>>>>>replaced by sales. Very disturbing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
>>>>>>>>>counter the marketeers:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have
>>>>>>>>been published about this diet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>We are back full circle:
>>>>>
>>>>>Who knows an invention better... the user or the
>>>>>inventor?
>>>>
>>>>When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
>>>>However, it is still a car to other people.
>>>
>>>The inventors of the car called it an automobile while the
>>>users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the better
>>>name, the users or the inventors?
>>
>>You miss an important point here.
>
> No I have not.

Oh, sure you have. The point is that definitions adhere no
matter what wacky nomenclature you try to hang on a simple and
simplistic diet.

It's that old "A rose is a rose is a rose..." thing. And it
would smell as sweet by any other name.

Like a diet is a diet even when you try to give it a
high-falutin "approach" title. Still a diet. Diets are about
what you eat and how much and lotsa other criteria. Just
like the 2PD.

HTH

Pastorio

[Andrew B.]

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> >>
> >>>Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Jeff wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> >>>>>>wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Jeff wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> >>>>>>>>wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists
> >>>>>>>>>>can pay for whatever they want said regardless of
> >>>>>>>>>>the cost to the american people. Isn't this all
> >>>>>>>>>>really about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is
> >>>>>>>>>>being replaced by sales. Very disturbing.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
> >>>>>>>>>counter the marketeers:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have
> >>>>>>>>been published about this diet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>We are back full circle:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Who knows an invention better... the user or the
> >>>>>inventor?
> >>>>
> >>>>When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
> >>>>However, it is still a car to other people.
> >>>
> >>>The inventors of the car called it an automobile while
> >>>the users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the
> >>>better name, the users or the inventors?
> >>
> >>You miss an important point here.
> >
> > No I have not.
>
> Oh, sure you have.

Sorry, I have not.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

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(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Jeff]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
message news:4278CE38.379EB541@heartmdphd.com...
> "Bob (this one)" wrote:
>>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
>> >
>> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>> >>
>> >>>Thorsten Schier wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Jeff wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
>> >>>>>>wrote in message
>> >>>>>>news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Jeff wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
>> >>>>>>>>wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that lobbyists
>> >>>>>>>>>>can pay for whatever they want said regardless of
>> >>>>>>>>>>the cost to the american people. Isn't this all
>> >>>>>>>>>>really about "cost" (think $$$$$). Science is
>> >>>>>>>>>>being replaced by sales. Very disturbing.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach to
>> >>>>>>>>>counter the marketeers:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that have
>> >>>>>>>>been published about this diet.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>We are back full circle:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Who knows an invention better... the user or the
>> >>>>>inventor?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>When you invent a new car, you can call it an airplane.
>> >>>>However, it is still a car to other people.
>> >>>
>> >>>The inventors of the car called it an automobile while
>> >>>the users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked the
>> >>>better name, the users or the inventors?
>> >>
>> >>You miss an important point here.
>> >
>> > No I have not.
>>
>> Oh, sure you have.
>
> Sorry, I have not.

Are you sure you are not in 1st grade?

You sure sound like it. "Am not." "Am too." "Am not...."

I did notice how you still delete parts of other people's
messages without indicating that fact.

Intellectual honesty is not your strongpoint.

Jeff

> At His service,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
>
> ** Suggested Reading:
> (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
> (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3536240B
> (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

[Andrew B.]

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
> message news:4278CE38.379EB541@heartmdphd.com...
> > "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Jeff wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> >> >>>>>>wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>news:427443A3.3CE8F9C8@heartmdphd.com...
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Jeff wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>news:4273A55A.5FCBEAE@heartmdphd.com...
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>archie@anet.net wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>At this point, it is pretty clear that
> >> >>>>>>>>>>lobbyists can pay for whatever they want said
> >> >>>>>>>>>>regardless of the cost to the american people.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Isn't this all really about "cost" (think
> >> >>>>>>>>>>$$$$$). Science is being replaced by sales.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Very disturbing.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Thankfully, there is now the 2PD-OMER Approach
> >> >>>>>>>>>to counter the marketeers:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Unfortunately, there are no good studies that
> >> >>>>>>>>have been published about this diet.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>The 2PD-OMER Approach *is* a diet.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>We are back full circle:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Who knows an invention better... the user or the
> >> >>>>>inventor?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>When you invent a new car, you can call it an
> >> >>>>airplane. However, it is still a car to other people.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The inventors of the car called it an automobile while
> >> >>>the users called it a horseless carriage. Who picked
> >> >>>the better name, the users or the inventors?
> >> >>
> >> >>You miss an important point here.
> >> >
> >> > No I have not.
> >>
> >> Oh, sure you have.
> >
> > Sorry, I have not.
>
> Are you sure you are not in 1st grade?

Yes.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff whom I love, in
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord
and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life
and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing
that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple
as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds
us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd
part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace
[who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did
not make His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz
plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of
weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic
syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic for
these NGs :-)

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist

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(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
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