locarbbarb
Fri, Apr-01-05, 10:49
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I have come across many posts about folks who are stuck at one weight, in spite of being careful of their food, and some who are so hungry, they go off plan. I, too, have gone through these things (and more!).
I was re-reading my Rosedale diet book this morning, and I came across this info. I just wanted to share it with you, in case it might help, or shed some light. I do not take this book as gospel. I take it as a source of info that might or might not work. We are each different, even if it is only in a small way of how we metabolize foods. I just wanted to 'give back' to this forum, in case it might help someone. (Please don't get upset if you believe something different than what I quote here. I only want to share this in case it might help someone. I am not trying to 'convert' anyone to switch plans.Thanks! :) )
Here is what I read:
"The fact that protein is essential for life, however, doesn't mean that you can eat it in unlimited quantities. When you eat more protein than your body needs to replace and repair body parts, excess protein is largely converted into glucose and burned as fuel. It turns you into a sugar maker and sugar burner! This is not desirable or healthy. On the Rosedale Diet, I limit the amount of protein that you can eat daily. I advise most people to eat between 50 and 75 grams of protein daily (depending on their body size, height, frame, and activity level) spead out among their meals with not more than 15 - 20 grams per meal. (he provides charts to calculate how much you need) That's enough protein for the body to do it's work, but not so much so that you will burn it as fuel, which will prevent you from burning off excess fat as fuel.
Most of your protein should come from fish and (skinless) poultry which is low in saturated and omega-6 fats, and to a lesser extent from foods that contain more saturated fat, such as beef. Nonfat or lowfat dairy products (in limited quantities) are another acceptable source of protein. You will also get some protein from eating nuts and eggs.
I know that many popular diets today allow you to eat all the protein you want, to lose weight, as long as you avoid most carbohydrates. On the surface, this is a very appealing promise. Many of these diets lump all protein sources together, and allow you to gorge on high saturated fat cuts of meat such as rib steaks and brisket, and even cured meats such as pastrami and hot dogs as long as you stay away from carbs. And at least initially, most people lose weight. However, our goal is not just to lose weight, but to lose fat and achieve maximal health. If you cut carbs out of your diet and load up on protein, you will lose some weight, no question about it. But high protein-low carbohydrate diets, like other diets, are not long-term solutions. I have treated hundreds of patients who have been on such diets, but who have reached a plateau with still more fat to lose, and they are not healthy. Many still have carbohydrate cravings! Why? Because the extra protein they are eating is being converted into glucose and burned as sugar, which causes spikes in leptin and insulin levels, which in turn cause sugar cravings. These diets are particularly bad for diabetic patients because they can raise blood sugar and insulin levels.
There are other reasons why a high protein diet falls short of the ideal diet. As you know by now, the type of fat you eat is very important. Foods high in protein are generally high in saturated fat. Saturated fat is much harder to burn off than good fat (until you become a good fat burner), so if you eat high amounts of saturated fat, you will interfere with your body's ability to burn fat. A diet high in saturated fat promotes insulin resistance, and may increase the risk of heart disease. To me, the goal is not about weight loss. It is to achieve optimal health and to lose undesirable weight as a result."
Well, I hope this helps, at least to understand the physiology of how protein and fats are metabolized. BTW, Dr. Rosedale considers his plan to be high-fat, but the good fats.
Again, I am not knocking anyone's plan. If your plan is working and you are healthy, keep at it! I only present this here as a means to offer an opportunity to see Rosedale's point of view, and maybe help someone who is having a difficult time.
Happy Lo-Carbing! :heart:
I have come across many posts about folks who are stuck at one weight, in spite of being careful of their food, and some who are so hungry, they go off plan. I, too, have gone through these things (and more!).
I was re-reading my Rosedale diet book this morning, and I came across this info. I just wanted to share it with you, in case it might help, or shed some light. I do not take this book as gospel. I take it as a source of info that might or might not work. We are each different, even if it is only in a small way of how we metabolize foods. I just wanted to 'give back' to this forum, in case it might help someone. (Please don't get upset if you believe something different than what I quote here. I only want to share this in case it might help someone. I am not trying to 'convert' anyone to switch plans.Thanks! :) )
Here is what I read:
"The fact that protein is essential for life, however, doesn't mean that you can eat it in unlimited quantities. When you eat more protein than your body needs to replace and repair body parts, excess protein is largely converted into glucose and burned as fuel. It turns you into a sugar maker and sugar burner! This is not desirable or healthy. On the Rosedale Diet, I limit the amount of protein that you can eat daily. I advise most people to eat between 50 and 75 grams of protein daily (depending on their body size, height, frame, and activity level) spead out among their meals with not more than 15 - 20 grams per meal. (he provides charts to calculate how much you need) That's enough protein for the body to do it's work, but not so much so that you will burn it as fuel, which will prevent you from burning off excess fat as fuel.
Most of your protein should come from fish and (skinless) poultry which is low in saturated and omega-6 fats, and to a lesser extent from foods that contain more saturated fat, such as beef. Nonfat or lowfat dairy products (in limited quantities) are another acceptable source of protein. You will also get some protein from eating nuts and eggs.
I know that many popular diets today allow you to eat all the protein you want, to lose weight, as long as you avoid most carbohydrates. On the surface, this is a very appealing promise. Many of these diets lump all protein sources together, and allow you to gorge on high saturated fat cuts of meat such as rib steaks and brisket, and even cured meats such as pastrami and hot dogs as long as you stay away from carbs. And at least initially, most people lose weight. However, our goal is not just to lose weight, but to lose fat and achieve maximal health. If you cut carbs out of your diet and load up on protein, you will lose some weight, no question about it. But high protein-low carbohydrate diets, like other diets, are not long-term solutions. I have treated hundreds of patients who have been on such diets, but who have reached a plateau with still more fat to lose, and they are not healthy. Many still have carbohydrate cravings! Why? Because the extra protein they are eating is being converted into glucose and burned as sugar, which causes spikes in leptin and insulin levels, which in turn cause sugar cravings. These diets are particularly bad for diabetic patients because they can raise blood sugar and insulin levels.
There are other reasons why a high protein diet falls short of the ideal diet. As you know by now, the type of fat you eat is very important. Foods high in protein are generally high in saturated fat. Saturated fat is much harder to burn off than good fat (until you become a good fat burner), so if you eat high amounts of saturated fat, you will interfere with your body's ability to burn fat. A diet high in saturated fat promotes insulin resistance, and may increase the risk of heart disease. To me, the goal is not about weight loss. It is to achieve optimal health and to lose undesirable weight as a result."
Well, I hope this helps, at least to understand the physiology of how protein and fats are metabolized. BTW, Dr. Rosedale considers his plan to be high-fat, but the good fats.
Again, I am not knocking anyone's plan. If your plan is working and you are healthy, keep at it! I only present this here as a means to offer an opportunity to see Rosedale's point of view, and maybe help someone who is having a difficult time.
Happy Lo-Carbing! :heart: