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Bawl
Thu, Mar-24-05, 06:15
From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...> Date: Tue Feb 22, 2005
11:40 am Subject: Dicey Rice

Dicey Rice

"How many times can a man turn his head, Pretending he just
doesn't see?" -Bob Dylan, 1962

Ventria Pharmaceutical company has genetically engineered
human genes into grains. Ventria has combined human lysozyme
with rice, and have applied to the United States Department of
agriculture for permits to plant 204 acres of their
genetically modified organism (GMO) this spring in Missouri.

One unforeseen problem with new GMO crops is that the winds
spread new genes to other plants producing unexpected results.
Dylan sang, "The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind..."

Ventria attempted to plant their human/rice crop in California
in the Spring of 2004, but the publicity and subsequent
protest uprooted their plans. This time, their strategy is to
keep things low key. Very few Americans are aware of what is
going on. That is, until this very moment.

In 2002, a team of researchers determined that this new
science fiction rice had antibiotic-like properties when fed
to baby chickens. Their work was published in the Journal of
Nutrition (2002, 132: 1214-1218).

The Missouri Department of Agriculture awaits your comments.
Please take this opportunity to show the "Show Me" state that
human DNA should not be implanted into rice.

Email: aginfo@m... Attn: Fred Ferrell, Director

Imagine the consequences?

Combine one part rice with Condoleezza, and you'll produce a
hybrid plant the forever seeks out weapons of mass destruction
that go snap, crackle, and pop.

Combine one part rice with John Kerry and you get a bitter
grain with Heinz-sight.

Combine one part rice with Supreme Court Justice Clarence
Thomas, and you get a grain with a soft black exterior
containing a hard white interior.

Combine one part rice with one part Donald Rumsfeld and the
outside of the grain has an easily penetrable exterior coating
that you have, not a coating that you wish for.

Combine one part rice with one part Bill Clinton, and you end
up with the plant kingdom version of Cialis.

Combine one part rice with Bill gates, and you create a
virtually inedible rice. Each grain requires 64 bytes.

Combine one part rice with Barry Bonds, and you create a new
grain that denies it was genetically engineered.

Robert Cohen http://www.notmilk.com

Jeff
Thu, Mar-24-05, 06:15
The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic
engineering for millenia, ever since man first started
breeding and selecting plants.

The only difference now is that humans are able to select the
genes much more carefully.

I will take changing one known gene at a time rather than
who knows how many genes when different varieties of plants
are crossed.

Jeff

bcpg
Thu, Mar-24-05, 06:15
"The fact of the matter is that people have been doing genetic
engineering for millenia" . REALLY!!!? Is that a fact? Then
perhaps you point out down through history when flounder genes
were spliced into tomatoes; human genes into rice?

Jeff
Fri, Mar-25-05, 06:16
<bcpg@canada.com> wrote in message
news:1111627788.918115.321550@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> "The fact of the matter is that people have been doing
> genetic engineering for millenia" . REALLY!!!? Is that a
> fact? Then perhaps you point out down through history when
> flounder genes were spliced into tomatoes; human genes
> into rice?

New genetic combinations have been made by humans every since
they started doing artificial selection and cross-breeding. I
would much rather have a plant with only one known genetic
change than a plant with tons of different genetic changes you
get when you do cross-breeding.

We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without
any sign of adverse reactions.

Jeff

Pizza Girl
Fri, Mar-25-05, 06:16
LOLOLOLOL..no adverse reactions? How can you tell?

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l6K0e.7950$S46.5609@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without
> any sign of adverse reactions.
>
> Jeff

Pizza Girl
Fri, Mar-25-05, 06:16
Where are your peer reviewed studies for your bold statements?

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l6K0e.7950$S46.5609@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>> We have been eating GM foods for several years now, without
>> any sign of
> adverse reactions.
>
> Jeff

Mmu
Sat, Mar-26-05, 17:16
> The fact of the matter is that people have been doing
> genetic engineering for millenia, ever since man first
> started breeding and selecting plants.
>
> The only difference now is that humans are able to select
> the genes much more carefully.
>
> I will take changing one known gene at a time rather than
> who knows how many genes when different varieties of plants
> are crossed.

Genetically modified? Yes, true- we are eating genetically
modified food for a very long time already.. or since homo
sapiens started to settle and grow plants most probably. Every
domesticated animal and every plant we "optimized" and crossed
with other plants was in fact genetically modified by us.

But the big difference is: until now we could not cross a dung
beetle with a rice plant..

Jeff
Sat, Mar-26-05, 17:16
"MMu" <brilhasti@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:42456929$0$11868$3b214f66@usenet.univie.ac.at...
>> The fact of the matter is that people have been doing
>> genetic engineering for millenia, ever since man first
>> started breeding and selecting plants.
>>
>> The only difference now is that humans are able to select
>> the genes much more carefully.
>>
>> I will take changing one known gene at a time rather than
>> who knows how many genes when different varieties of plants
>> are crossed.
>
> Genetically modified? Yes, true- we are eating genetically
> modified food for a very long time already.. or since homo
> sapiens started to settle and grow plants most probably.
> Every domesticated animal and every plant we "optimized"
> and crossed with other plants was in fact genetically
> modified by us.
>
> But the big difference is: until now we could not cross a
> dung beetle with a rice plant..

While we can import genes from animals to plants, we can;t
insert most of the genes of an animal. And, genes have been
known to cross species. Viruses and bacteria have been doing
this almost forever, at very small rates.

Jeff

Jeff
Sat, Mar-26-05, 17:16
"Pizza Girl" <nospam@4.me> wrote in message
news:1111719961.3c8f458ba93e743bfc90c1086a63025a@teranews...
> Where are your peer reviewed studies for your bold
> statements?
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:l6K0-
> e.7950$S46.5609@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>
>>> We have been eating GM foods for several years now,
>>> without any sign of
>> adverse reactions.
>>
>> Jeff

It is considered appropriate to put your comments below the
comments of the previous poster, to make following the
thread easier.

Below are three cites about the safety of GM foods.

You can find additional ones by going to scholar.google.com
and search for genetically modified foods.

Jeff

http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/plantgm/tpj1119.pdf http:/-
/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMe-
d&list_uids=11344340&dopt=Citation
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint/318/7183/581