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Crowis
Wed, Oct-17-01, 14:58
Greetings and Salutations,

One of the members asked me to write an article here about my successes so far. I've also had a couple people ask me about various things regarding my diet and the weight I've lost so here it is. . .

Eight months ago I weighted 321.5 lbs. I was eating out every night, drinking large amounts of anything. I hadn't exercised regularly for nearly five years and my life was slowly going down hill (but picking up speed). I had tried every diet including the one I am currenlty on before and was so sick of the pain I felt at failure that the thought of going on another diet was enough to make me nearly want to cry.

My best friend Lee and I had been discussing in depth the psycholigical and physiological differences we had noted in people who had succeeded even for a short while (such as Lee who lost 65lbs on the weight watchers diet only to put it right back on again) at diets. We also examined our friends who were already skinny and tried to figure out the differences between our lifestyles.

We came to one conclusion. People who have determination, and hope feeding that determination will be more successful. When hope dies, and determination falters is when people back-slide or fail. However regardless of our multiple conversations we never started or did anything. We would sit at a Shari's (much like Denny's) and eat fudge brownie delights while discussing how to lose weight :eek: .

Lee and I argued vehemently about which diet program would be successful, would it be a high protein low carb as I espoused or a low fat/high carb diet such as he believed in. We also argued about exercise. Lee believed in long slow work outs or in his case if it was fast, something that would be managed from home, such as Tae Bo. I argued that only class settings managed enough peer pressure to get most people on the boat long term.

One monday evening (February 19th to be exact) I went to my friends house and we discussed dieting yet again, for the tenth time that week probably. The discussion quickly turned into one of the more nasty arguments we've ever had. Him saying the protein diets were ridiculous and me arguing that high carb diets caused the body to go into metabolic stalls and dead-ends.

Finally I just got tired of it and said. . ."Put up or shut-up". He looked at me and a sly smile crossed his face.

"What are you saying?" he replied.

"One month," I replied. "Atkins vs. Weight Watchers. Tae Kwon Do (which I had chosen) vs. Tae Bo."

"You can't beat me," Lee advised in his best Schwartzenhegger.

"I can and I will," I replied in my best William Wallace.

So for the next twenty minuts we hammered out the following bet. Which was that for one month we would exercise and diet following our own programs. We could take no supplements excepting a daily vitamin and chromium. We could not discuss our poundage with each other. We could not eat under 1500 calories a day. At the end of one month we would weigh and find out who was the winner. If I won Lee had to join my Tae Kwon Do classes and go at least 3 times a week for one month. If Lee won I would have to do Tae Bo with him 3 times a week and buy him 55 bucks worth of Tae-Bo tapes (since my class costs 55$ a month).

We immediately ran to my house and stepped on the scales. I was at 321.5 lbs. Lee was at 278 lbs. Lee being a couple two to three inches shorter than I am agree our fat % was relatively close. Neither of us had been making any pre-diet preparations or adding weight. Being male and within a couple of years of each other we determined this to be a relatively fair contest. Lee brought the contract he had drawn up. . . we both signed. The race was on.

I was temping at a construction in firm in town (both of us worked in the office) at the time so we would both come into lunch. Lee would bring in subway and I would bring some meat-treat and cheese. We would stare at each other across the table adding and subtracting things in our minds. . . who was winning. . . who would bet he victor.

I weighed one week later and a grin lit my face like the Griswald Family House Lights (see Christmas Vacation movie for reference).
I was at 305.5lbs. 15lbs in one week. Lee was toast.

At lunch that day I must have been glowing because Lee got a look of suspicion on his face that made me smile all the more.

"So," he asked nonchalantly, "how you doing."

We had agreed not to mention pounds. So I said, "Lee, I often don't use this word. . .but I would say, Fabulous."

Lee went back to his sandwich.

"So," I said, "how bout you?"

"Pretty good." His face had squinched a little when he said it, I was off to a good start.

Two weeks later Lee gave up and quit. He admitted he had only lost roughly 6 lbs the first week had then gained 4 back and had stalled out. I was up to twenty five pounds by that point. We compared notes.

Lee's calorie counting system had not been working because he didn't feel he could eat what he wanted. He didn't work out ever because he had no pressure to. I had won. But Lee to this day still demands that Weight Watchers and his program are better.
He's right and he's wrong. He's wrong because I know and so do many other people that the WC program is not the best diet. But he is right, he lost becaus he gave up hope.

But, by this time I had noticed some things. My pants which had been tight were a little loose around the edges. My speed and strength had increased a little because of Tae-Kwon Do. My dizzy spells had passed and I was actually more awake and having more fun than ever before.

I continued. I had hope.

I achieved my Gold belt in Tae Kwon Do in April that year, and was down 40 lbs to boot. Most people hadn't noticed my weight loss yet, but because I was determined and hopeful of my future, and since I was enjoying my class I wasn't giving up like I would have before.


I went to the store in May and bought smaller pants. I felt like Michael Jordan walking out of that store with pants, that while still bought in the big&tall section, did not take enough fabric for a hot-air balloon. :roll:

I achieved my Orange belt in July. I was 75 lbs down and looking great (for me). People were saying things to me like "what are you doing" etc. I was working like heck and I was able to sleep on my back without choking for the first time in years. My body was responding, my flexibilit was up and I was lighter making it easier to get around on my feet.

I went shopping and picked up my first pair of 44 size waists since Junior high in August. I also found my license from when I turned sixteen and it stated a weight of 238 lbs. I was at that point down to around 230, so this felt great.

Yesterday I achieved my Green Belt in Tae Kwon Do. At 105 lbs down I was slimmer and better than ever. And even though I have recieved a nerve injury to my neck (non Tae Kwon Do related) and until I get done with therapy it hurts, I am still going strong, both in TKD and my diet. Because I can see the end of the tunnel. Somewhere at least.

Things have been tough. I have alienated friends, felt rejection at events where others wanted me to join in the drinking and fun, I've looked in the mirror and realized that even though I have lost over a hundred pounds I still have a long journey in front of me. But through all this I hope to succeed. and that is my greatest assett.

And I thank the stars that my friends and family and instructor have stood by me this entire time and continue to stand with me. . .well at least as far as my weight loss is concerned. Now I try to give others the message that "You Can! If only you realize how wonderful you are. . . cause for godsakes. . . if I can lose this much weight, than so can you."

Sorry that took so long.

Thanks

Mike

Ruth
Wed, Oct-17-01, 16:47
Mike,

Thank you for sharing your story. You have done a "fabulous" job with this new WOL and winning different colour belts in Tae Kwon Do.

What a great way to start, on a bet with your best buddy! Hopefully one day you will get Lee converted to LC. There's hope for him. .... and your story was not too long, it was just right.

3 cheers for Mike :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Ruth

Sharon
Wed, Oct-17-01, 17:09
As I said yesterday, what a great job you've done. You also did a fantastic job of telling your story.

I'm sure it will be motivation for all who read it.

LC Sponge
Wed, Oct-17-01, 17:23
That's an amazing story Mike, and brilliantly told.

I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I was particularly intrigued by how detailed you and Lee made your contract. You both gave it a tremendous amount of thought - how clever to but a bottom-limit to your daily calorie intake.

You both obviously wanted to be healthy, not stupid :)

Do you think Lee would ever give low-carbing a chance? After seeing how terrific you've done?

I feel like there should be a continuing series to your story.

Congrats on your green belt BTW.

Have a great LC day and thanks for telling your story.

doreen T
Wed, Oct-17-01, 20:50
Wow, great story .... and well-deserved success. Thankyou for sharing and inspiring!

And no doubt you will reach your goal soon enough ... both with your health and weight AND with the TKD. Congrats!

http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/kao/otn/blob_box.gif

Doreen

Karen
Wed, Oct-17-01, 21:15
Great story Crowis!

I have been intrigued by your sig line ever since you first started posting and am glad to know the history behind it.

Hope without action is a dream, and you have certainly activated your hope in a big way. More power to 'ya!

Karen

Homegirl
Wed, Oct-17-01, 22:14
Mike,

For sharing your story. I love hearing/reading stories like yours particularly when you are able to share the things you have learned about yourself along the way.

Isn't it great to gain all that self-confidence in your ability to follow through with something. I think it gives one a strength we don't always recognize is there beneath the surface.

And I think you are right, hope is a very important component in our lives.

Best of luck on your continued weight loss journey :)

Crowis
Thu, Oct-18-01, 12:06
Thanks for your responses to my little tale.

In regards to my friend Lee. . . Let's just say that he is very determined to never try a low-carb diet. He is absolutely convinced that the AMA is correct in their portrayal of the low carb diet. And while he (obviously) can not comment about its effectiveness, he does comment about its health factors.

While I have shared studies with Lee, he is quite content in cross sharing his own studies (that he's found) and admits that while not all physicians agree the weight of doctor opinion still swings to low fat diets.

I must admit that I am very aggressive in trying to get Lee to switch to LowCarb attempts, but honestly Lee must try a program he believes will succeed or his chances will be minimal to nill.

Currently he is trying the Body for Life program by a man I truly admire (regardless of his poorly hidden cash quest), Bill Phillips. The program is an excellent one, and I think Lee is very revved up about trying it. Unfortunately life is already getting in Lee's way (The Mariners in Post Season), so I'll have to see how things go. Hopefully well.

In regards to my future and the future of those on this board. . . like I said, I think its all about hope. If you have it and build your determination airliner with it, you can fly anywhere. I know I tend to be a little firm with some of my posts (regarding exercise especially), but that stems from a belief that people who always push themselves will succeed.

I hope no one takes that the wrong way.

But again, thanks so much for your responses and hope to you all


Mike

sylvie p
Thu, Oct-18-01, 14:18
Hi Mike,

I truly enjoyed reading your story. You are an inspiration to us all and to low carb. I hope one day your friend joins you on this forum so he can benefit from all the knowledge and expertise available.

Sylvie p

Natrushka
Thu, Oct-18-01, 16:01
Mike, I just got around to reading your story. Thanks for sharing. I latched onto the comment a bout "hope" for I too felt and feel that way. Low fat/low calorie had me hopeless and frustrated; Low Carb has given me back hope and faith in myself. Although I am not yet at my goal, I now refer to it as "when i reach it" and not "if"; this is something new and has me quite in awe of what I can do. Sharing such stories and insights only increases my desire to strive for greater success and to help others acheive their own.

I hope your friend, Lee, finds something that works as well for him as LC has for you :)

Nat

joanne42
Thu, Oct-18-01, 20:20
Fabulous story mike.. You sound like you are going through with your friend what I went through with a gentleman I know.. Nothing or no one could convince him that he would give up his bread or potatoes or sugar to lose weight.. Well with much convincing on my part and after a few talks he finally gave it a try..NOT to mention my showing him my before pic.. He decided to give it a try and with much success has lost over 50 lbs in less than a year...

John2001
Tue, Oct-30-01, 22:20
Good stuff. I enjoyed reading your post. I too stand about 6.1 and was around 290-300. I too tryed other diets for years without half the sucess I've had on this WOL.

About 7-yrs ago, I was around 260-lbs, went on my own diet plan and lots of exercise. At work, was always running all day long, walked 3-miles, 3-4 times a week, and had a softball practice and game every week.
In about 6-months time I lost 28-30lbs (230-232) and couldn't get below that for the next 6-months. Like everybody else, and results like that, I fell off the wagon.

Now with the LC plan, no real added exercise (exept AM walking) I've dropped approx 60-70lbs with realitive ease. Blew right thru that stall area of years ago to 225-lbs and still going. The LC way is just amazing.

Keep up the good work, as will I.

Cheers, John
PS: I am trying to get a friend of mine on this plan. He is probably just under my start weight and once I get to where I want to be, hopefully he'll see how great this plan works. Just can't seem to get him motivated to do it currently.

Shimmer
Thu, Nov-01-01, 10:48
I had to read your story twice! I loved it! You should write books! I can speak well but I can never get my word typed to where they sound right! Your story is an inspiration to those of us that are just beginning our journey! Thank you for sharing!And again I must say WOW! :thup:

kezza
Fri, Nov-02-01, 20:50
Thanks Mike for writing your story.
I want to lose as much as you have lost already. I think you are right about the hope bit. It is the hope that keeps you going.
I noticed that you also exercise a lot. I think I'll have to get back to yoga and walking the dog.
Keep winning those coloured belts,
kezza

itsjoyful
Fri, Nov-02-01, 21:10
mike -
you rock. it was so very kind of you to share your story. did you see pay it forward? this is a huge forward.

p.s. christmas vacation is one of my favorite movies :D
thanks
brenda

Andy Davies
Sat, Nov-03-01, 17:31
Hi Mike,

I too would like to thank you for your story and the inspiration it offers. There is nothing so powerful as anecdotal narrative, and you have done a brilliant job of combining factual detail with abstract issues like hope, determination and the will to succeed. It is a tour de force, in which you totally and conclusively prove your point.

All power to you

Andy

bonnie5501
Sat, Nov-03-01, 20:57
hi mike , what a wonderful story, you should be so proud of yourself, keep up the good work,
i have lost 58 lbs in the last year, with another 30 to go, i can understand your feeling of pride when you get into a size smaller pants, what a wonderful feeling
i am so happy for you

danume
Mon, Nov-05-01, 10:47
Mike....I am soooo proud of you....and I hope you really take the time to see what a great thing you are doing for yourself ...
:Party: :clap:
I too have lost over 40lbs in just a 3-4 month period and feel motivated and good about the furture success of my last 20lbs... :D Marcie

alikat3
Sat, Nov-10-01, 13:47
wow Mike, your story made me cry!!
:tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears: :tears:
You have done a fantastic job so far!! your story is such an inspiration to me. I hope, no, I know that i will be successful in my new journey of life.

:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

And I believe your right, everyone needs to find their own way to happiness. be it low/fat,, or low/carb. Everyone is different and their bodies handle things differently.
I wish you the best of luck in all you do!! And Please tell your friend that i wish him the best of luck in his journey to weight loss.

:wave: Ali :wave:

gecolon
Sun, Nov-11-01, 13:47
:clap: Wow! Thanks for posting. That was a great and inspirational story. It is like you said hope plays a big part in ones determination. Thanks for the big dose of hope. Gina-

KASSY
Wed, Nov-14-01, 22:25
when I read your story, it motivated me to start the Atkins Diet. Congratulations on such a great success!

jazzyflyer
Thu, Nov-15-01, 09:37
Way to go Mike!!!!!

Being a newbie to LCing .... in my first week of induction ... I can relate ... so many of my friends are waiting for me to fail again .... but do I have news for them ... I just weighed and have lost 11 pounds!!!!

Thanks for the inspiration ... I want to lose another 70 and see from your experience I am not being idealist, but realistic.


Jazzyflyer

Andy Davies
Thu, Nov-15-01, 13:53
Well done on the 11 pounds, Jazzyflyer, let's hope it's the start of many more to come. Stick with it, even when no movement on the scales can be detected, and you will get there!

Good luck

tamarian
Wed, Jan-02-02, 20:55
Happy birthday Mike! :bday:

Let us know how you're doing!!!

Wa'il

Andy Davies
Wed, Jan-02-02, 21:46
And Happy Birthday from across the pond, too!

Andy

ruby
Sun, Jan-27-02, 22:13
Thanks for very inspiring story. IT makes me want to continue, esepcially after my cheating days, I take inspiration from you.

Thanks,
Ruby :)

Crowis
Tue, Jan-29-02, 21:53
Greetings and Salutations,

I apologize if I have not been responding to E's as much as I once did. However, things have been relatively difficult for me of late.

New relationships, new job, and a whole lot of other things going on.

February 19th, 2002 will be my anniversary for my diet. 1 year of concentrated (and at times not so concentrated) effort. I plan a new post in the success category that has a few more details than my last one here (hopefully no one will think me too much a narcissist). I also hope to include before and after photos.

I never could have achieved so much had it not been for the support of many people in my life. . . and this board helped hold me together when all I had left was a string.

Thanks so much and have fun.

Michael Crow

Cher
Tue, Jan-29-02, 22:18
Wow! It's so awesome to see your success AND the success of many others who have posted in this thread. It's also sad to hear about your friend's struggle...I feel pain for anyone who struggles with their weight! This WOE has been really helpful for me. I couldn't lose weight as a "Vegan" so it shocked me when I lost weight with Dr. Atkins.

Also, I wasn't used to eating any kind of meat...so, I didn't know if i would stay with this in the beginning, but, I kept losing weight and now I eat fish, chicken, turkey ans some cheese...so, there you go! Just so you know, a friend of mine tried to convince me to start this almost 5 years ago...and I wouldn't do it. Then all of a sudden last August I decided to give it a try. So, maybe your friend will come around soon (or, maybe in 3 - 5 years)! Either way, you'll be a role model for what he can achieve!

Hope that things are quieting down with the new relationships and new job.
Congratulations on your upcoming atkinsversary!

SLynnTx
Mon, Feb-11-02, 12:01
I too want to say thank you for sharing your story...I also want to say that it was not too long...It was perfect.

mythreeson
Wed, Jun-05-02, 20:38
just wanted to say how much i liked reading your story and what a great job you did inspireing us all . :cheer:

mal
Sun, Jun-09-02, 16:25
wow what a wonderful story thanks for sharing it mal :roll: :wave: :roll: :wave: :roll:

shelly
Sun, Jun-23-02, 12:29
That was a great story Mike! Congrats on your success!

Shiphrah
Tue, Apr-12-05, 21:19
Now I try to give others the message that "You Can! If only you realize how wonderful you are. . . cause for godsakes. . . if I can lose this much weight, than so can you."

That's a fantastic story...I was captivated from beginning to end. And I needed that little pep talk at the end...hey maybe I AM wonderful! :) Well done, Mike, and good luck!

Carina8
Wed, Apr-13-05, 13:31
WOW!!

Awesome, all with some good exercising 3x/ week and eating right. You must feel amazing!

I think I need to get to some kickboxing classes here soon.

Congrats
:cheer:

Carina

maddison27
Wed, Apr-13-05, 16:52
I love your story!!!, you are a great inspiration, congrats on your loss!!!.

karbkicker
Thu, Apr-14-05, 15:21
That is one of the best success stories I've ever heard. You are such an inspiration :wave:

susansmk
Thu, Apr-14-05, 16:36
Mike,

Thank you for sharing your incredible story! You are quite an inspiration. Congratulations on your success in both weight loss and in life!!

Susan

Sun-angel
Thu, Apr-14-05, 16:41
What a wonderful story for anyone trying to lose weight or going through any hardship for that matter -- a sincere congrats and keep it up!!!

LOWCARBR
Thu, Apr-14-05, 18:01
i read this story somewhere else a few months ago..maybe on the atkins website i believe..can't remember. but good to see it shown on the lc website for inspiration to others.

Midori
Fri, Apr-22-05, 20:55
Mike,
You rock! You're a huge inspiration, and I am so happy for your successes. Reading your success story has given me a big grin. Keep up the awesome work!

grits088
Thu, Jun-23-05, 07:17
Congrats!!! I know you feel better. I am sure you feel you look better. I have alot of questions...so if you are interested in helping someone please do. I can use all the help I can find. Anyway.....KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

MissyMonet
Thu, Jun-23-05, 09:10
Wow, Mike. What an inspirational story. It's unfortunate that you have alienated some people/lost friends along the way, but you know, they couldn't have been such great friends if they let a thing like you weight loss get in the way. If they were your friends, Mike, they'd be cheering for you. Misery loves company. And I'd be willing to bet you it's much harder, emotionally/pyschologically, being overweight than being a smaller size! I think being overweight is a terrible burden. I've had a few smart~ss comments from people myself and I'm not at my goal weight! My stepmother has made some of the dumbest remarks ever "Make sure you don't get too skinny. You look fine!" Good night, Irene. I'm 5'4" and weigh about 165 - that is not "great." Yeah, I have a lot of muscle and carry it well, but still.... It's just the sabotage thing and it hurts my feelings. People who are supposed to love me are extremely jealous that I'm doing this. Well, pooh on them - I don't need them! I refuse to be miserable anymore. And I have pretty much written off those people.

I'm really proud of you, Mike. Keep us informed.
Missy

paladiin
Fri, Jul-01-05, 09:24
Thanks for taking the time to post your story Mike. I've been struggling lately (getting back on track now) and examples like yours keep me going.

plumtired
Fri, Jul-01-05, 12:48
Ohhhh Mike!!!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!!

This is an AWESOME success story. I am so motivated by it! Thank you & keep up the GREAT work!!! :thup: :thup: :thup:

Nancy LC
Fri, Jul-01-05, 16:41
Inspirational! What happened to your friend, did he join you at TKD for a month? I used to love doing martial arts, but I had so many joint issues I finally had to give it up.

KimNWI
Fri, Jul-01-05, 20:57
You are so inspiring I really throughly enjoyed your story!! I think you have done an amazing job!! I be that friend that challenged you is very impressed.

KimNWI

ICANDOIT2
Mon, Aug-01-05, 10:02
I read this a couple weeks ago and just wanted to tell I started my LC diet a week ago today and you inspired me to do it thank you for your inspiering story and I long for the day I can tell my story like you just did. Thank you again ..