View Full Version : Hoodia side effects
Welcome to the Active Low-Carber Forums
Support for Atkins diet, Protein Power, Neanderthin (Paleo Diet), CAD/CALP, Dr. Bernstein Diabetes Solution and any other healthy low-carb diet or plan, all are welcome in our lowcarb community. Forget starvation and fad diets -- join the healthy eating crowd! You may register by clicking here, it's free!
wordlady
Thu, Feb-17-05, 12:17
I think I am feeling some side effects from the Hoodia. (Which works great, by the way) Before I spell them out, I just want to ask. Have any of you had ANY kind of side effects?
Ginga
Thu, Feb-17-05, 15:04
It made me breal\k out in bumps on my face. My skin is very sensitive though
Maybe it is making my mouth feel dry/cottony, particularly during the night -- otherwise, no side effects.
Lanny
Fri, Feb-18-05, 06:35
I typed in Desert Burn in Google and saw a few webpages..fell on this one and not sure if its true or not...
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff130294.htm
im just wondering where do they sell the pure stuff if there is any...
Lanny
Fri, Feb-18-05, 06:39
sorry forgot this webpage too
http://www.thehoodiafactor.us/hoodia_free.htm
Lanny,
I read both links, and all I can say is -- I've read a LOT about the available hoodia not being "real" and that this or that propuct is the only good one and etc., etc., etc. I guess that this is a fairly "new" product on the market, not subject to much control -- so who knows just what is in any particular brand???
I think that my "opinion" on hoodia is -- it is working for me (and believe me, I had tried any number of supplements, diet tweaks, etc. before trying the hoodia) -- today I'm down 16 pounds (144#! ) since I started it early January, haven't been at this weight for several years -- and I intend to continue with what works!
That said, I've ordered a bottle of the Desert Burn capsules but haven't started them yet -- if they work, I will continue with them -- if they don't, I'll go back to the hoodiahoodia.com (with their shipping/time problems!).
There's a website particularly devoted to users of Desert Burn Forum (http://www.createforum.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=2&mforum=hoodia) -- and reading this, it looks like some people are very happy with the product, and some are not seeing much effect -- it seems a very individual response to any particular formulation.
There are some people on this thread who are very happy with the Source Naturals 20:1 hoodia (which I also take along with the hoodiahoodia) -- and others who see no effect.
I think that if you suspect overeating/too many calories are a part of your weight problem, and if you're interested in trying the hoodia, then you shuold try a variety of brands/formulations until you find one that works for you.
Bottom line for me -- I weighed in this morning at 144 pounds, I'm wearing a pair of jeans that hadn't seen the light of day for a few years -- and the waist is standing away from my body!, and I see a real possibility of achieving my goal weight!
Lanny
Fri, Feb-18-05, 10:15
Like i said once, im glad it works for you and yes it sure feels good to wear them good old jeans we keep for that day...you go girl..
Lanny
Fri, Feb-18-05, 10:23
forgot to ask something....basically on the webpage of Hoodia Factor would be the real stuff?
http://www.thehoodiafactor.us/default.htm
Lanny,
Your link goes to a site maintained by "The Hoodia Factor" -- this appears to be a privately-managed site as far as I can tell, and seems to be a marketing page for a few brands.
If it were run by Consumer Reports (for example) then I think it would state that.
When I first ordered the hoodia, I came to a website that advertised hoodiahoodia.com -- and of course, they claimed that their's was the "real" stuff -- and apparently it was, it's worked very well for me. However, I had so much problem getting my order that I bought some of the 20:1 extract from Source Naturals, then got the hoodiahoodia capsules (lots of emails, apologies, re-orders, etc. -- took perhaps 2 months to arrive???).
The link that you're pointing to could well be advertising some very effective formulations -- and please note that all of the above is simply my opinion!
wordlady
Fri, Feb-18-05, 15:56
BKM; what you are taking is a liquid?
I am also taking Source Naturals. I wonder if it just interacted with the beer I had that day.......LOL....I was like totally stoned!
No, I take a tablet (source natural) and a capsule (hoodiahoodia). And the Desert Burn looks like a capsule (but I've not broken the seal on the bottle yet).
Today I had my daughter and family, along with my son, visit us -- took them to a local Gem and Mineral show, then back to the house for a "fitting" (wedding dress) -- then we had an afternoon dinner of meatball soup (homemade, low-carb) with french bread and cheesecake (not low carb, bought for them).
I took my hoodia about 45 minutes before eating -- had a small bowl of soup with 1 slice of Eziekiel bread -- not another bite -- and I wasn't tempted for any of the extras! This stuff is great! And I was down a pound this morning!!!
HerbNurse
Sun, Feb-20-05, 10:40
I have joined the group and purchased a bottle of Hoodia (NOW brand).
I will let everyone know how it works for me.
HN
fdia1142
Wed, Mar-02-05, 10:32
Hi, The first message in this forum caught my attn and w/ the exception of "bumps on face" I've not seen any mention of other side effects from Hoodia. My google searches have come up blank too. I think I'm gassier than normal (sorry... but want to get others to share too!) but would like to hear if you have experienced any other side effects. I'm using TrimSpa w/ Hoodia and am not entirely convinced it's working, but I'm only on day 2. I'd love to hear anyone else's thoughts. The only pages my searches (besides this) have come up with are the actual manufacturers sites bragging of no side effects. I want real people's reactions!! Many thanks!
-f
threegmom
Wed, Mar-02-05, 10:39
You can go to Hgpills.com forum, they have a couple of people discussing side effects. Mine has just been the dry mouth, but thats about it.
Reduced appetite -- nothing more -- not even the increased energy that some report.
And I'm down to 142 pounds!!!!!! :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:
Just a comment -- sometimes on the board there are threads about people outside the low-carb community making disparaging remarks about our WOE, etc. -- and of course, we all jump in and say "it's none of their business..." -- but when it comes to taking hoodia (or relacore or OoO or whatever) these same people jump in and tell us we shouldn't ..... Don't understand why it bothers some that we've looked outside of simply low-carbing (hey, for me it wasn't working completely, I was actually gaining weight) -- I for one am not pushing the hoodia on anyone, simply reporting my success with it. I do read anything posted (such as a link about studies), but ....
Just felt like venting -- enough said!
fdia1142
Thu, Mar-10-05, 11:12
Hi guys,
I'm about a week in, and not seeing any results, but am willing to stick w/ it. I do notice the dry mouth, now that you mention it. And I think TrimSpa has a diaretic in it... and you know what that means. But, on a good note, I'm not speedy or jumpy. That's a plus!
-f :q:
FabByFifty
Fri, Mar-11-05, 20:41
I Have taken the Hoodia for 4 days now. I got on the scales this morning and was down 2 pounds, but I blieve that was because of the Gallon of water I drank yesterday! I, like the post above believe something I am taking has a diaretic effect to it. I'm not taking Trim Spa, so I tend to sway towards the Hoodia. I am also suddenly getting headaches. I am going to continue to use the Hoodia for the month that I have the pills for, we will see after that. If the weight goes down, and the craving go I will purchase more. I am still craving, but I can't blame the hoodia for not changing that because I have read that water relieves that problem if you drink enough. I think I may drink more than enough, and it's not working. But, that is the big hype on the Hoodia also, it is sapose to supress your appetite and stop the cravings, and it has done neither yet. I have not caved into the cravings though, and I won't!
Brenda
way2busy
Sat, Mar-12-05, 11:36
I just started hoodia yesterday (source naturals)....I'll keep you all posted....
briansgirl
Sat, Mar-26-05, 13:07
Hi--I was using the new trim spa with Hootia in it for about 2 weeks--the stuff works--I had used the original trim spa before and lost over 50lbs. I really wanted to maintain now so just would take 2 a day--but I developed a sun burn like rash all over my body--the dr. said it could be an allergic reaction to something--not sure what so I thought the only new thing I was trying was the trim spa--maybe the hootia or the red dye--not sure--anyone else have any probs?
Hi, The first message in this forum caught my attn and w/ the exception of "bumps on face" I've not seen any mention of other side effects from Hoodia. My google searches have come up blank too. I think I'm gassier than normal (sorry... but want to get others to share too!) but would like to hear if you have experienced any other side effects. I'm using TrimSpa w/ Hoodia and am not entirely convinced it's working, but I'm only on day 2. I'd love to hear anyone else's thoughts. The only pages my searches (besides this) have come up with are the actual manufacturers sites bragging of no side effects. I want real people's reactions!! Many thanks!
-f
LOOPS
Mon, Mar-28-05, 12:27
Hello.
Due to my uncontrollable fruit cravings, and also problems keeping low carb enough to lose anything yet keep from feeling 'blah', I have been taking the Source Naturals Hoodia for a few days.
What I have noticed is a feeling similar to when I used to take Guarana, but a bit less caffeinish. Yes, my appetite is definitely down, and I have quite a hyperactive sort of energy going on, which is odd.
I have been out 3 times already today to buy food for a casserole (kept forgetting things), and am suddenly in the mood for tidying the house.
Anyone else have this effect? I mean, it's nice, but I only take 1 capsule 2-3 times a day, and I'm actually wondering if this stuff is a stimulant. ALso, what happens when it wears off? I mean, when you get used to it and it doesn't have any effect? Am I just going to bloat again?
Loops
fdia1142
Wed, Mar-30-05, 11:01
Hi all, I stuck to the hoodia (in Trimspa) for a couple of weeks and genuinely decided it made me hungrier. I would be interested if anyone else had the same experience and if they ever tried another brand that gave them the desired (less hungry) results. ??
:help:
thanks!!!!
-f
jaimejo
Thu, Apr-21-05, 14:12
I have been taking Trimspa for a couple of months. I was taking 2 in the morning, 1 before lunch and 1 before dinner. It did help some, but not what I was hoping for. As of today, I am taking 2 in the morning, 2 before lunch and 2 before dinner. So far, it DEFINITELY decreases the appetite. I feel more energized, yet relaxed and not jittery. I'll keep you all posted on the progress.
I haven't noticed any side effects, other than decreased appetite.
I have been steadily losing weight -- and am now down to 131 pounds! One more pound to goal! This stuff works for me!
LUVTRISH
Thu, Apr-21-05, 14:47
Where do u guys get that hoodia thing and how much ?
I buy Desert Burn hoodia from www.thebestlittlevitaminshop.com (http://www.thebestlittlevitaminshop.com ) -- cost is $22.50 for 120 capsules (no shipping and handling).
I take 1 (sometimes 2) capsules per day; the recommended dosage is 6/day. I think the amount you take is very individual -- you want enough to decrease your appetite but no more....
LUVTRISH
Thu, Apr-21-05, 14:55
THANKS SO MUCH BKM. Does it matter what time? before or after meal?
any heart beating fast or being weird sensation. I'm kind of scared to take "diet" pills coz i had been taking some bfore and my heart was pounding like crazy. So i want to know first before i try it.
So, you've been taking this for 4 months i guess?
I take one just as I leave work (around 5:30 PM) -- this has enabled me to eliminate snacking (that was my weak point -- as soon as I arrived home until supper was ready). I also take one just before walking into a restaurant (another weak time for me). A friend of mine (who has only 10 pounds that she wants to lose) is taking 2 just before she leaves work...
I think that you are typically directed to take 2 before each meal (6/day)?
I think you need to get it into your system, then tweak the dosage until you find what works for you -- and I would be careful to not take too many, that may be when side effects (like heart pounding, etc.) appear????
I have absolutely NO side effects.
LUVTRISH
Thu, Apr-21-05, 15:05
OKidok, i'll do that .. thanks :) again and goodluck in your weightloss
skytrance
Sun, Apr-24-05, 18:12
does anyone know if you can take hoodia if you are hypoglycemic?
i know the ephedra type speedy diet pills really messed with me and made me feel like i was going to pass out, i think the speedy stuff makes your sugar drop faster, is hoodia considered another speed diet pill?
LUVTRISH
Mon, Apr-25-05, 09:44
I took hoodia last friday and didn't like it at all. I was dizzy and nauseous. I couldn't sleep that night. bad luck for me i guess...
Katyreeson
Fri, May-06-05, 15:49
I am taking some from simplyhoodia.co.uk for 2 weeks now and I must say no side effects and they seem ok.
Will let you all know how they work out.
Susanspar
Tue, May-17-05, 10:21
:wave: [QUOTE=SusansparHi all, I stuck to the hoodia (in Trimspa) for a couple of weeks and genuinely decided it made me hungrier. I would be interested if anyone else had the same experience and if they ever tried another brand that gave them the desired (less hungry) results. ??
]Hi - I haven't added to this forum yet, but I think I can help you. I too had the hungry problem. What I noticed, however, through my persistence, is that Hoodia does not mix well with most other medications. They seem to dilute its effects and in some cases, make you hungry. For me, it was any ibuprofen and/or sedatives. If I took a pill to help me sleep the night before, the next day I experienced hunger from the Hoodia. If I took an anti-inflammatory, such as Advil or Naproxen, then the hunger would kick in frequently during the day. Also I have come to learn from other sources and from my own experience that water - not coffee, tea, etc., activates the Hoodia. So you need to follow your first dose with about 8 to 10 ounces of water. Then wait befrore eating anything. I also learned that it doesn't work well with antidepressants. I stopped taking my Prozac - I live in the Northwest and get seasonal affective disorder. It was OK to stop the Prozac because Hoodia has a mood elevating effect and it seemed to be OK. It took me a long time to work out how to take this stuff and make it work for me. I'm still tweaking the dosage and sometimes have trouble sleeping. But for the most part, no pounding heart, etc. I purchase from both Hoodoba and Hoodiaman.com. I found Hoodoba to be inconsistent and like Hoodiaman's products a little better. Hope this helps.
HoodiaUser
Tue, May-17-05, 13:44
Hello All:
I have been very successful using a Hoodia Plex product (500ml) that I purchased from my local vitamin shop. (17 lbs loss in 2 months)
Unfortunately I got sucked into the Desert Burn scam recently and purchased 3 bottles. It is total SAWDUST. Using 4500 ml of it a day (as suggested) had totally no effect on me and I know Hoodia works for me. REAL Hoodia that is. If they ever sold a real product, it was just to get established. Now they sell sawdust.
If you research them hard enough you find that:
davisbiotech.com (suppliers of Desert Burn)
desertburnindustries.com
hgpills.com
kinghoodia.com
are all one and the same person behind a computer scamming the masses. He uses netzero (free) as his provider and his email is yahoo (free). The 'girl' that answers the phone (when she does) uses yahoo messenger to chat with him about business.
The address for the "company" leads to a mail express postal mail box.
Do yourselves a favor and read this site:
http://www.newstarget.com/002703.html
I suggest you buy from GNC or your local vitamin store that stands behind their products. The majority of Hoodia sellers on the internet are just scammers.
Good luck in your weightloss endeavors.
HoodiaUser
Tue, May-17-05, 14:11
One more thing:
TheHoodiaReport.com which has been taken down (listed DesertBurn in top ranking) was also ran by DesertBurn.
Unfortunately I got sucked into the Desert Burn scam recently and purchased 3 bottles. It is total SAWDUST. Using 4500 ml of it a day (as suggested) had totally no effect on me and I know Hoodia works for me. REAL Hoodia that is. If they ever sold a real product, it was just to get established. Now they sell sawdust.
Have you had this product analyzed? I would be interested in your findings. "Now they sell sawdust" is a statement that seems as though you've had the stuff tested. Did you?
The address for the "company" leads to a mail express postal mail box. This is a strange thing to say as I clearly read an address in Georgia on the Desert burn sites.
I read the newtarget articles on hoodia and the publisher does not say that Desert burn is a scam. Are you reading a new article? Is there an update?
I also saw something like 5 certificates on the Desert burn site and on HGPILLS.com. I don't think that you can make claims like the ones you mentioned with those kinds of proof. They certainly beat out the products that you are tooting with impressive credentials.
This is what I found when I checked out the product you purchased:
Welcome to the website of MäritzMayer Laboratories.
We carry HoodiaPlex!
We are currently updating our website. To place an order or for more information, please contact us at 1.800.432.9130, or email us at customerservice~maritzmayer.com.
Thank you for visiting.
This is really scary. And there is no address on this sight...not even a PO Box!
I suggest you buy from GNC or your local vitamin store that stands behind their products. The majority of Hoodia sellers on the internet are just scammers. I do believe that I saw a refund if you are not happy with the desert burn stuff. How much more "stand behind" do you expect?
Does your local vitamin shop take back opened hoodia?
HoodiaUser
Wed, Jun-01-05, 08:15
Desert Burn which is the product HGPills also peddles is pure junk. Sawdust! I have several bottles gathering dust.
I bought real hoodia from GNC. I opened a capsule and put the powder in a glass of water and the powder was dark clumps that would not dissolve. Also had a strong smell.
I did the same with Desert Burn and it was a light powder that dissolved easily. No smell.
Proof positive enough for me. Desert Burn is sawdust.
Sidenote: Ive lost 17 lbs on Real Hoodia from my local vitamin store. :)
tagcaver
Wed, Jun-01-05, 14:36
Desert Burn which is the product HGPills also peddles is pure junk. Sawdust! I have several bottles gathering dust.
I bought real hoodia from GNC. I opened a capsule and put the powder in a glass of water and the powder was dark clumps that would not dissolve. Also had a strong smell.
I did the same with Desert Burn and it was a light powder that dissolved easily. No smell.
Proof positive enough for me. Desert Burn is sawdust.
Um, last I knew, sawdust (wood) doesn't dissolve in water. At least my wood fence is still standing today after an inch of rain. How could something that dissolves in water be sawdust?
I can't say anything on the Desert Burn Hoodia that's being sold today, but I purchased some in February and it was so effective that I had to force myself to eat. Just my $.02
Joan
Odelay
Wed, Jun-01-05, 19:02
Hiya. Well, I have been taking Pure Hoodia (see link below) for 2 days now and it really seems to have cut the snack-cravings waaaay down. So far, so good.
http://purehoodia.com/
Peace,
Lena
HoodiaUser
Thu, Jun-02-05, 08:06
Um, last I knew, sawdust (wood) doesn't dissolve in water. At least my wood fence is still standing today after an inch of rain. How could something that dissolves in water be sawdust?
I can't say anything on the Desert Burn Hoodia that's being sold today, but I purchased some in February and it was so effective that I had to force myself to eat. Just my $.02
Joan
Well maybe its not sawdust, that was just a generalization. Whatever it is, it isn't "pure" Hoodia Gordonii. They probably sold the real thing at one time. What they are selling now is not the real thing or so little of it (as in Trimspa) that it isnt effective.
The Hoodia I take now, I have to make myself eat. And that is just with 1000 total ml's a day. (2 pills)
Six (6) 750 ml's (4500 ml) of Desert Burn wouldnt even curb my appetite.
willeke
Thu, Jun-02-05, 17:12
so what do I do now? I just started on my first bottle of Desert Burn and indeed, it doesn't "do" much for me. How do I know I can trust other sources? I don't want to throw my money down the drain! I started with Natural Trim, which has hoodia in it, and that gave me energy, but it also has green tea which I don't do well on, so I thought I'd be better off taking "pure" hoodia. GNC prices are a lot higher, too! But if those pills work, I'm willing to give it a try, of course.
Anybody out there who can tell me which brands are really trustworthy??
thanks in advance
Willeke
burtonar
Thu, Jun-02-05, 19:04
I have tried several different brands of Hoodia. Each brand has different "suggested dose", amount per capsule, etc. I have tried the Source Naturals brand which you can purchase at most vitamin stores, however it is expensive. Hoodia seems to work extremely well for some people and have zero effect for others, without considering the brand, dose, etc. I have been taking Desert Burn Hoodia- 750mg which i order through www.thebestlittlevitaminshop.com. I have looked at several different brands, prices, and have found that this is the best deal. There is no shipping cost and the total is aprox $22 for 120 capsules. I can say they definitely work for me because, i have tested my hunger with and without under different situations, and i am able to control my binge urges much much easier when i take them. I take 2 capsules 1 hour before BF and 2 capsules 1 hour before dinner.
willeke
Thu, Jun-02-05, 19:35
hi Burtonar,
thanks for your input. I found the best little vitamin shop but the price is up to 32 dollars now. Maybe I should try the pure hoodia? I think that for now I'll just go on with the Desert Burn till I finish it, see what it does in the course of next week, and then I'll decide if I go on using this brand or go for a more expensive (better?) brand.
Willeke
Willeke,
Don't give up!
It takes a week or two for the full effect sometimes.
I read this on another board and people are putting the powder in hot liquid - - like teas hot chocolate and so on
it makes them full really fast.
If you go to desertburnindustries.com (i think it is) there are many proofs of desertburn being real. I researched those companies and i believed them. they have a new kind called Hoodia za750. I ordered that one and am waiting for the delivery. I'll tell you what I think.
Purehoodia.....i read someone is taking this brand. I read the newstarget.com exposing hoodia scams article and they are the ones - or one of the ones - selling bogus stuff. the company is globebix industires. go to that web site and read about purehoodia, hoodonii and one other (i cna't remember the other one)
this is what I found out about Pure hoodia form the patent office of the US:
Word Mark PURE HOODIA
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 030. US 046. G & S: Processed herb specific type
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78336968
Filing Date December 5, 2003
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Zegan, Tom, E CORPORATION NEVADA 30336 Marne Way Menifee CALIFORNIA 92584
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date December 30, 2004
LAST APPLICANT(S)/OWNER(S) OF RECORD
1. Zegan, Tom, E
Address:
Zegan, Tom, E
30336 Marne Way
Menifee, CA 92584
United States
Legal Entity Type: Corporation
State or Country of Incorporation: Nevada
Phone Number: 909 301-4074
GOODS AND/OR SERVICES
International Class: 030
Processed herb specific type
First Use Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
First Use in Commerce Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
Basis: 1(b)
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
(NOT AVAILABLE)
MADRID PROTOCOL INFORMATION
(NOT AVAILABLE)
PROSECUTION HISTORY
2005-02-10 - Abandonment Notice Mailed - Failure To Respond
2005-02-09 - Abandonment - Failure To Respond Or Late Response
2004-09-10 - FAX SENT
2004-06-30 - Non-final action e-mailed
2004-06-29 - Case file assigned to examining attorney
2003-12-31 - New Application Entered In Tram
CORRESPONDENCE INFORMATION
Correspondent
Zegan, Tom, E
30336 Marne Way
Menifee, CA 92584
Phone Number: 909 301-4074
So, why does this company still have the "TM" symbol on their label??? Can anybody explain that to me?
there seems to be a big fight with newstarget.com Mike Adams and Pure Hoodia, Inc.
mpooh32
Fri, Jun-03-05, 09:18
I tried pure hoodia (Hoodoba) and it gave me massive headaches. I took it for about 7 days and had to stop. Personally during that time I did not notice any positive results as far as appetite suppressing.
mpooh32,
wow, headaches for that long?
Did you stop eating sugar suddenly or stop drinking coffee - something that would give you headaches other than the hoodia stuff?
Are you trying another hoodia product?
mpooh32
Sat, Jun-04-05, 07:53
BSB,
I didn't try another one. I didn't consume alot of caffeine, so I'm not really sure what caused the headaches. But after I stop taking them the headaches went away. Maybe I'm just sensitive to the supplement. :q:
Susanspar
Sun, Jun-05-05, 08:39
I got headaches when I used Hoodoba brand and I've heard of others getting them too. They did work for a short while but then not. I've found this to be true of many of the brands. I believe it is because there isn't any way to regulate the consistency of the plants that are farmed. Some may have greater amounts of P57 than others but the batches are mixed together and ground up. I haven't had any consistent luck with the product and I've used three different brands - one from my health food store, Hoodoba brand, and a wild farmed source that Hoodiaman gets. The other two brands didn't give me headaches though. I have noticed that after a week or two of taking the product, I start to develop Pepcis. This is a kind of acid condition that immitates hunger. Almost nothing will turn it off except stopping the pills.-- It is also possible that other kinds of Hoodia that are not Hoodia Gordonni are being mixed in with some of the batches that South Africans send out. There are only a couple of actual farms that are licensed to export and they are under a lot of pressure to produce. Remember this is a slow growing plant. Also, one man's food is another's poison.
Zuleikaa
Sun, Jun-05-05, 11:42
Has anyone noticed heavier TOM with hoodia?
I took Desert Burn (still use it for "emergency" situations) -- and it worked for me. I'm fairly ceratin that other brands work for other people -- and some of us will see no effect from any of the hoodia products -- essentially, I think you have to try one and see how you do, then go from there -- everyone's body chemistry is a bit different!
And as for the claim that desert burn is simply sawdust -- I think the poster is quite disgruntled and is trying to slam one particular product -- last time I looked, I have no termite genes in me, but the stuff still worked really, really well (I lost 30 pounds and got (and am maintaining) to my goal weight....
And I did try Oil of Oregano (no effect), coconut oil (no effect), CLA (no effect), etc., etc. -- these worked for others, but not for me -- possibly each addresses some need in your chemistry, and if that's not your "problem" then you'll not have any success with it.....
HoodiaUser
Tue, Jun-07-05, 14:03
Disgruntled? Well if that's what you want to call being "ripped off" then go ahead.
Tell that to the lab that found little or no Hoodia Gordinii in the capsules.
The only people I've seen praising it are the ones "running to the bank" with innocent people's money.
Hoodiauser,
What company did you use to test the product? Can you tell us what the lab said? What product did the lab use to compare to?
For strong remarks, strong proof is expected!
I didn't know anyone was selling hoodia brands here? Who is that? I didn't see any posts that have people selling.....did I miss a post? Are you selling hoodia? Is it HoodiaPlex?
Tried to find HoodiaPlex as you suggested in an earlier post. The manufacturer still has the "Sorry" messgage displayed with no information about HoodiaPlex except a phone number to order it. I did find HoopdiaPlex on another site... what store did you buy this brand in?
This is from a web site that sells many different products. It was the only site that I could find to purchase it. Very interesting combo of ingredients. But I wonder, with only 500 mg, how much hoodia can you get in the caps, and how many do you need to take as there is only 60 caps per bottle. Is this a good bargain?
500 mg caps at $29.95 - Hoodiaplex
What other Ingredients did we include in the HoodiaPLEX formula to make it even better?
Hoodia Cactus (appetite suppressant), THeobromine (well-being, diuretic), Green Tea (fat burning), Magnolia Bark (cortisol control), Glucomannan (fiber), Gugglesterone, Chromium, Banaba (blood sugar), L-Theanine and Guggul.
HoodiaUser
Fri, Jul-29-05, 19:06
Hoodiauser,
What company did you use to test the product? Can you tell us what the lab said? What product did the lab use to compare to?
For strong remarks, strong proof is expected!
I didn't know anyone was selling hoodia brands here? Who is that? I didn't see any posts that have people selling.....did I miss a post? Are you selling hoodia? Is it HoodiaPlex?
Tried to find HoodiaPlex as you suggested in an earlier post. The manufacturer still has the "Sorry" messgage displayed with no information about HoodiaPlex except a phone number to order it. I did find HoopdiaPlex on another site... what store did you buy this brand in?
This is from a web site that sells many different products. It was the only site that I could find to purchase it. Very interesting combo of ingredients. But I wonder, with only 500 mg, how much hoodia can you get in the caps, and how many do you need to take as there is only 60 caps per bottle. Is this a good bargain?
500 mg caps at $29.95 - Hoodiaplex
What other Ingredients did we include in the HoodiaPLEX formula to make it even better?
Hoodia Cactus (appetite suppressant), THeobromine (well-being, diuretic), Green Tea (fat burning), Magnolia Bark (cortisol control), Glucomannan (fiber), Gugglesterone, Chromium, Banaba (blood sugar), L-Theanine and Guggul.
Sorry this took so long to answer, I have been very busy at work and just now checked back.
To answer your questions, the MaritzMayer Laboratories have reserved the domain name of hoodiaplex.com but are in the process of putting up a website to sell online. Thus far, they sell to independant vitamin shops and they carry many products, not just hoodia. I've actually called the 800 number on the bottle and have been talking to a rep there. I'm interested in being a distributor because I've had such great success and all my coworkers as well that I've been sending over to my vitamin shop. They sent me alot of info on their products.
Also, I've noticed that "other" company raising the price of their hoodia due to the so called shortage and droughts in Africa but the prices are consistant with MaritzMayer Labs.
I am going to start selling it and I've already bought a domain name and am in the process of publishing the website.
Also they sell the 750 mg caps and 1000 mg tabs of pure hoodia but I had such great luck with the 500 mg and those other ingriedients they add (all good stuff and appetite suppresants). I think it's different for different people. Another lady at work prefers and has great success with the 750 pure caps. I've actually lost too much weight now but take 1 a day to maintain the appetite control. I will say that I never took more than 3 caps a day which is 1500 mg total where "that other" brand suggested 2 (750mg) caps 3 times a day. lol, thats 4500 mg a day. That should tell you something.
I'll check back in case you have anymore questions. Good day.
HoodiaUser,
Also they sell the 750 mg caps and 1000 mg tabs of pure hoodia
What size capsules can a manufacturer get to stuff 1000 mg of pure hoodia in?
You stated that Desert Burn was a rip off, however we have no indication that you tried the product.
Tell that to the lab that found little or no Hoodia Gordinii in the capsules. One of my questions was - What lab did you have Desert Burn tested in? What results did you find?
I'm sure that if you REALLY had Desert Burn tested in a lab and found sawdust as you claimed, you would have posted the results for all to see. So, my guess is that you were considering selling a competitive brand of hoodia and just wanted to knock other brands. If this is the case, your integrity is in question my dear. How can buyers believe you about your product when you make false claims about the competition's products? That's just bad business practice!
If you wanted a winner product, you should have chosen Desert Burn to sell! Good luck anyway in your hoodia sales.
HoodiaUser
Wed, Aug-03-05, 20:16
HoodiaUser,
What size capsules can a manufacturer get to stuff 1000 mg of pure hoodia in?
You stated that Desert Burn was a rip off, however we have no indication that you tried the product.
One of my questions was - What lab did you have Desert Burn tested in? What results did you find?
I'm sure that if you REALLY had Desert Burn tested in a lab and found sawdust as you claimed, you would have posted the results for all to see. So, my guess is that you were considering selling a competitive brand of hoodia and just wanted to knock other brands. If this is the case, your integrity is in question my dear. How can buyers believe you about your product when you make false claims about the competition's products? That's just bad business practice!
If you wanted a winner product, you should have chosen Desert Burn to sell! Good luck anyway in your hoodia sales.
Your loss or not, lol. As I posted before: Also they sell the 750 mg caps and 1000 mg tabs (1000 mg TABS) Not capsules. Sounds like you work for Desert burn. As far as Desert Burn, I have 2 and a half full bottles gathering dust as I stated in an earlier post here. I bought the 3 bottle special they ran a while back. I was going in with co-workers but refused to sell them junk. I got stuck with it all. Live and learn. And Hoodia will just be a small part of what I plan on representing. (if I ever find the time that is) I'm more into vitamins, whole food vitamins to be exact. I am thinking of including Hoodiaplex because it's a good product.
And I never said I had it tested in a lab. I read that on the internet and after reading it, I did the disolving test into separate glasses of water to see if they did the same thing. They did not. Go back and actually read my posts and you will see that.
You seem to be trashing all hoodia brands so I guess you are one that didnt have any luck with it. All I can say is keep trying. Maybe go to a vitamin store that has a money back policy. Personally, I'm skeptical of most products on the internet myself. I do buy alot of hardware but I make sure there is money back policies in place due to the fact that it's easily damaged in handling and shipping.
Goodbye and good luck....
Personally, I'm skeptical of most products on the internet myself. I do buy alot of hardware but I make sure there is money back policies in place due to the fact that it's easily damaged in handling and shipping.
I buy LOTS of stuff off the internet -- viatamins, makeup, books, clothing, our newest TV and computer, etc., etc. -- and I find that basically most internet-sold products are really good, priced well, and the people selling them are eager for your business and work hard to keep you happy. I rarely wait very long for an order (my vitamins, from iherb.com, are delivered within 2 days -- sure beats running to the mall and not finding everything on your list). And I have yet to receive anything damaged, our delivery systems (post office, UPS, etc.) are good.....
I think you simply need to research the group you're looking at, find out their return policies, and then go for it. I for one find it so much easier to do much of my shopping this way!
HoodiaUser
Sun, Aug-07-05, 02:13
:) well I'm guilty of the same. It is much easier to shop online and I've had great luck. The only thing so far I feel a loss on besides the DB is a compact flash card for my canon camera, it quit working after about 2 months and they wouldnt replace it so I dont do business with that site anymore. Once some computer ram didnt work but the company promptly replaced it. Another time I received a computer motherboard barebone kit and the cpu was flopping (broken lose) around in it, they replaced it but it was during the Christmas rush and and they shut down for the holidays and it was a month or so to get it all straighened out.
One Christmas I never set foot in a store, all my gifts were purchased online. That was convienient. Plus the fact that online shops are driving down the prices at the local merchants. Foley's has great sales now. :lol:
But, you can't help but be skeptical of sending financial info thru the internet to people you dont know but I do check out the sites thoroughly before I do.
:q: :q: :q: :q: :q: :q: :q: :q: :q:
....it quit working after about 2 months and they wouldnt replace it so I dont do business with that site anymore
Ahhh ... HoodiaUser! Finally the real story behind the Desert Burn complaints and rants!!! You could not get a refund after 30 days (as standard good business practices offer) and you decided to lash out to the world all that negative vitriol.
You admit that it worked for you for 60 days....admitting that it wasn't sawdust the first 60 days....find another product to sell on line (Hoodiaplex) and then trash DB.
You don't do business with that site because you are selling another - competitive brand - yourself.
ummm -- I think the above response is based on an incorrect interpretation of what was said -- the product that was defective after 2 months was a compact flash card, which ought to work for years....
Although I disagree with hoodiauser's disgruntlement with Desert Burn, I don't think we ought to misread what is said -- and actually I think we ought to drop this entire thread -- some people like a product while others hate it. I find Desert Burn very effective but I certainly don't guarantee that it will be for the next person....
I'm out of this discussion...
:q: :q: :q: :q:
There seems to be a gaps from one message to the another. The last message from BKM doesn't make sense either.
HoodiaUser
Tue, Aug-09-05, 14:50
I had no problem understanding what she wrote.
BSM is Bonnie B from Desert Burns forum, she just posted my comments over there. Only she left out what was really said. I told you all those people were crooks and frauds. Thanks Bonnie for proving it.
She posted bits and pieces of what I really said to discredit me. Too bad it backfired. You cant delete posts here like you do over there. Negative posts about Desert Burn and HG Pills that is.
Here is her post:
I have always contended that many people that "trash" DB are one of the 1-2% that it has no effect on or have no real basis for negative comments. I have an example of just one incident/person that I found somewhere else on a forum. The quotes are from the same member on different days. This person without provocation decided to trash DB.
Unfortunately I got sucked into the Desert Burn scam recently and purchased 3 bottles. It is total SAWDUST. Using 4500 ml of it a day (as suggested) had totally no effect on me and I know Hoodia works for me. REAL Hoodia that is. If they ever sold a real product, it was just to get established. Now they sell sawdust.
Desert Burn which is the product HGPills also peddles is pure junk. Sawdust! I have several bottles gathering dust.
I bought real hoodia from GNC. I opened a capsule and put the powder in a glass of water and the powder was dark clumps that would not dissolve. Also had a strong smell.
I did the same with Desert Burn and it was a light powder that dissolved easily. No smell.
Proof positive enough for me. Desert Burn is sawdust.
Disgruntled? Well if that's what you want to call being "ripped off" then go ahead.
Tell that to the lab that found little or no Hoodia Gordinii in the capsules.
The only people I've seen praising it are the ones "running to the bank" with innocent people's money.
I'm interested in being a distributor because I've had such great success and all my coworkers as well that I've been sending over to my vitamin shop. They sent me alot of info on their products.
Also, I've noticed that "other" company raising the price of their hoodia due to the so called shortage and droughts in Africa but the prices are consistant with MaritzMayer Labs.
I am going to start selling it and I've already bought a domain name and am in the process of publishing the website.
....it quit working after about 2 months and they wouldnt replace it so I dont do business with that site anymore
So, ......here was my response:
Ahhh ... HoodiaUser! Finally the real story behind the Desert Burn complaints and rants!!! You could not get a refund after 30 days (as standard good business practices offer) and you decided to lash out to the world all that negative vitriol.
You admit that it worked for you for 60 days....admitting that it wasn't sawdust the first 60 days....find another product to sell on line (Hoodiaplex) and then trash DB.
You don't do business with that site because you are selling another - competitive brand - yourself.
THANK YOU BONNIE FOR PROVING DESERT BURN, HG PILLS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ARE FRAUDS AND DISONEST.
I thought that was a pretty good forum at one time until I saw so many posts getting deleted by people that posted how your product didnt work.
Also I read it long enough to know you are involved and also selling for HG Pills and Desert Burn so dont try to deny that either.
You may be BSB here but you are Bonnie B there. At least you got the BS part right :p Shame shame Bonnie B.
HoodiaUser
Tue, Aug-09-05, 14:55
By the way, I know you read the part about it being a chip and you left that out on purpose. So much for your credibility :(
And hardware parts have a 90 day policy just for the record.
Nor did I ever try to sell you anything. And I dont "sell" anything in fact. I am an tech at a major corporation. If I do decide to sell something, I will represent a reputable company.
This is an open forum and I responded to someone elses post that posted a link discrediting Desert Burn. You started attacking me for that.
I dont doubt Desert burn has some Hoodia Gordonii in it. Just not 100% Pure like you all claim. Or else it wouldnt take 4500mg per day and give it a month at least to kick in, It's more like one of the 20 to 1 products we are warned to stay away from. I personally dont like putting something into my body that I don't know what it is.
I took real Hoodia and I had to force myself to eat the second day. End of story.
HoodiaUser,
There is a BSM and a BSB on this site that have been responding to you mostly here. You seem to have some confusion about who is who.
Why would people care what is on another site? Why is that important to what is being said on this site. This is where you are posting. This is where I am posting a reply. Who are you addressing so I am clear?
That is interesting that you took a quote from another site, cut and pasted it here and then commented. If anyone cared about reviewing who wrote what, they can clearly see that the quotes are from your posts.
In order to discredit someone you must first start with a reputation. I have only noticed a couple of members responding to you here. Who are you trying to reach and for what purpose?
Have you seen me selling Desert Burn on this site? No. Have I promoted a site for selling Desert Burn here? No. No such thing exists, either.
I see that you started a job as a tech at a major corporation as you stated above. Good. You told us before that you quit working and have been establishing a website to sell a brand of hoodia with perhaps other products. You said it will be a reputable company that you represent. Who would that reputable company be and how can you know that? What standards are you using to determine that?
I see no real purpose in continuing with this as it really isn't accomplishing much of anything other than perhaps a forum for attacking and insults. When I ask you a question all I get in return are accusations and insults from you. Telling me or us here that Desert Burn is a rip off company and does not work is your opinion which you are entitled to express. Ok. We all know now that you are not happy with the company. So....what proof can you offer about a "reputable" company with facts to back up the claims of pure hoodia in it?
It's a simple request. Have you clinical study reports? Have you clinical analysis on the product that you are standing behind? How are you comparing different products such as Desert Burn to the one you are standing behind?
There is no reason to insult and become caustic about product comparison. You prefer one product and I prefer another. So...??? There is no competition about which is the best needed here! People are posting that they tried a product and it either worked or didn't work for them. There is no need to accuse and insult others on this website. What's the purpose for that?
Mahatma Ghandi once said, "Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it stands than to anything on which it is poured."
Kristine
Sun, Aug-14-05, 11:49
Messages in this thread have been deleted for violation of the forum rules (http://forum.lowcarber.org/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_forum_rules). Please refresh your memory and have a look at them. While we welcome constructive debate, we will not tolerate name calling. Further violations will result in suspension of your posting privileges.
mgood
Sun, Aug-14-05, 12:43
THANK YOU KRISTINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they just need to agree to disagree for heavens sake.
fastek2000
Tue, Mar-28-06, 11:49
This seems to be one of the hardest products to find legitmate sources of. Check out this link http://www.cellhealthmakeover.com/how-to-compare-hoodia.html
I will try it if I can find a good relativly inexpensive source.
Rick
monster66
Fri, Apr-21-06, 18:32
I found some at GNC and have been taking it this week and I really like it. It definitely suppresses my appetite with no jittery feeling at all. I am taking 3 a day, 1 before each meal. I cant say what would work for others but it has definitely worked for me.
Dianee
Fri, Apr-21-06, 20:34
I just received my first bottle of Hoodia. I didn't realize it has been around as long as it has. I will start taking it tomorrow. I can't remember the site right off hand, it is on my other computer. I know it had a certificate saying the product was 100% pure and it is 1000mg. I am only suppose to take 1, 3 times a day. I will let you know how it works for me.
nitromoose
Tue, Apr-25-06, 21:48
Got some a while ago. Didn't suppress my appetite at all, if anything it was the opposite. Strange how it works differently on different people? £20 down the drain. Grr.
Rochelle16
Tue, Oct-24-06, 17:17
Hi, I am new to this forum and I have been reading all these threads about relacore and trimspa and am trying to figure out which one to get on. I have a question, I have seen OoO mentioned quite a bit, can someone tell me what that is?
Thanks
Rochelle
Reduced appetite -- nothing more -- not even the increased energy that some report.
And I'm down to 142 pounds!!!!!! :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:
Just a comment -- sometimes on the board there are threads about people outside the low-carb community making disparaging remarks about our WOE, etc. -- and of course, we all jump in and say "it's none of their business..." -- but when it comes to taking hoodia (or relacore or OoO or whatever) these same people jump in and tell us we shouldn't ..... Don't understand why it bothers some that we've looked outside of simply low-carbing (hey, for me it wasn't working completely, I was actually gaining weight) -- I for one am not pushing the hoodia on anyone, simply reporting my success with it. I do read anything posted (such as a link about studies), but ....
Just felt like venting -- enough said!
NYNikki
Tue, Oct-24-06, 17:28
I have a question, I have seen OoO mentioned quite a bit, can someone tell me what that is?
Hi Rochelle, welcome to the forum :wave:
OoO = Oil of Oregano
You can read all about it here:http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=167955
Nikki
skeeweeaka
Mon, Apr-23-07, 00:56
Here is some info I found....basically states that it only works in its natural form and that only one company has been licensed to make it...
http://www.foodprocessing.com/articles/2006/024.html However, naturalhealthhoodia.com has a free trial so I might try it...
Copyright 2000-2009 Active Low-Carber Forums @ forum.lowcarber.org
vBulletin, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.