does huffing chemicals count as cardio?

[The Queen]

Two weeks in a row now I've put in 3+ hours in the darkroom
during my Tuesday night class and MAN is it working me! I
got out of there last night feeling like I'd just done a
ten-mile hike.

Except I ended up with 18 prints instead of muddy shoes.

:D

Tuesdays are supposed to be my non-workout day but they sure
aren't feeling much like it. Praise the community college
system and pass the ibuprofen.

[Tabber]

Chemicals can be extremely beneficial to your appearance. Just
look at crack addicts, no fat! There always is that little
fact about it eating away your heart that seems to scare most
away, but I hold to the old adage "No Pain, No Gain" godammit!

Fuck the ten-mile hike, pass me my pipe!

[Elzinator]

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:15:31 GMT, The Queen of Cans and
Jars wrote:
>Two weeks in a row now I've put in 3+ hours in the darkroom
>during my Tuesday night class and MAN is it working me! I
>got out of there last night feeling like I'd just done a
>ten-mile hike.
>
>Except I ended up with 18 prints instead of muddy shoes.

From what I recall of my ex spending hours in the darkroom, a
radio is essential, as well as a few beers, a barstool that
you can park your butt on in between transfers or exposures,
and good supportive shoes. He used to spend 4+ hours in the
darkroom at a time.

My time in the darkroom is much less than yours, but I'm
continually running marathons with the x-ray film and the
timer, with an occasional "Fuck!" after dropping the film on
the floor. I have night blindness, so I can't see jack shit
even with the red lights. (what I like best is occasionally
there's too much protein/antibody/chemiluminescence complex
and it radiates like radioactive substrate.)

Hope your prints were what you expected/wanted.

BTW, since you brought this up, I recently found two slides
taken by my ex. The photos are beautiful and I'd like to have
them printed. One into an 8.10 or larger (preferably). I
recall that he used to send most of his color slides out for
printing to large formats. Got any suggestions? I don't trust
taking these to a local yocal place.

Thanks.

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[Tabber]

elzinator wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:15:31 GMT, The Queen of Cans and
> Jars wrote:
> >Two weeks in a row now I've put in 3+ hours in the
> >darkroom during
my
> >Tuesday night class and MAN is it working me! I got out
> >of there
last
> >night feeling like I'd just done a ten-mile hike.
> >
> >Except I ended up with 18 prints instead of muddy shoes.
>
> From what I recall of my ex spending hours in the
> darkroom, a radio
is
> essential, as well as a few beers, a barstool that you can
> park your butt on in between transfers or exposures, and
> good supportive shoes. He used to spend 4+ hours in the
> darkroom at a time.
>
> My time in the darkroom is much less than yours, but I'm
> continually running marathons with the x-ray film and the
> timer, with an occasional "Fuck!" after dropping the film on
> the floor. I have night blindness, so I can't see jack shit
> even with the red lights. (what I like best is occasionally
> there's too much protein/antibody/chemiluminescence complex
> and it radiates like radioactive substrate.)
>
> Hope your prints were what you expected/wanted.
>
> BTW, since you brought this up, I recently found two slides
> taken by my ex. The photos are beautiful and I'd like to
> have them printed.
One
> into an 8.10 or larger (preferably). I recall that he used
> to send most of his color slides out for printing to large
> formats. Got any suggestions? I don't trust taking these to
> a local yocal place.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ------------------------------
> Reality is an illusion created by an intelligence
> deficiency.

This is really interesting bump

[The Queen]

elzinator <callofthewest@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:15:31 GMT, The Queen of Cans and
> Jars wrote:
> >Two weeks in a row now I've put in 3+ hours in the darkroom
> >during my Tuesday night class and MAN is it working me! I
> >got out of there last night feeling like I'd just done a
> >ten-mile hike.
> >
> >Except I ended up with 18 prints instead of muddy shoes.
>
> From what I recall of my ex spending hours in the darkroom,
> a radio is essential, as well as a few beers, a barstool
> that you can park your butt on in between transfers or
> exposures, and good supportive shoes. He used to spend 4+
> hours in the darkroom at a time.

I should be wearing different shoes, but I pretty much go
straight from work to school so I'm always in a pair of Doc
Martens. They're actually fairly comfortable, but I am so
aware of how limited my time is that I basically don't take
a break for anything except a guzzle of water every half
hour or so.

It's sort of a brutal routine that I set for myself once I get
in there, but it's very effective and it allows me to crank
out the work in the short amount of time I have.

It helps that I mostly get things right in camera. I don't
struggle nearly as much as I see some of the other students
struggling. I rarely have technical difficulties with my
negatives, and that helps a lot.

> My time in the darkroom is much less than yours, but I'm
> continually running marathons with the x-ray film and the
> timer, with an occasional "Fuck!" after dropping the film on
> the floor. I have night blindness, so I can't see jack shit
> even with the red lights. (what I like best is occasionally
> there's too much protein/antibody/chemiluminescence complex
> and it radiates like radioactive substrate.)

Mmmm, glowing stuff. Can you use the films if you drop them or
does it wreck them? I'm guessing dust spots on an x-ray could
be a real bitch.

> Hope your prints were what you expected/wanted.

All but three were perfect, and the only reason these three
are sketchy is because I can't seem to spot them, but I'm
going to try spotting them again and see if I can't get by.
They're just postcards, so it's not a big deal if I can't
save them.

> BTW, since you brought this up, I recently found two slides
> taken by my ex. The photos are beautiful and I'd like to
> have them printed. One into an 8.10 or larger (preferably).
> I recall that he used to send most of his color slides out
> for printing to large formats. Got any suggestions? I don't
> trust taking these to a local yocal place.

If I wanted Cibachrome prints (oh, and I do!), I think I would
use these folks:

http://www.cloneachrome.com/index.html

If I wanted digital prints, I would go with:

http://www.westcoastimaging.com/

Prices are slightly less expensive here:

http://www.photoartsstudio.com/lab_services/index.html

for whatever that's worth. I think for the extra two bucks or
so I'd go with the first place.

Any local place is just going to make an internegative and
then make a print from that - which is ok if you don't
really care that much or are on a budget or whatever. If you
want a real print, you want it right from the slide.
Cibachrome prints are, of course, the shit. Digital would be
my second choice.

I shoot a lot of slides. And since researching those labs for
you, I have been infected with a wild, wild sickness to have
some giclee prints made from my Lomo Colorsplash slides. Like
a burning fever. Ack.

I am really, really fired up about photography right now. I
did more photo-cardio over the weekend: two-point-five hours
of walking and shooting on Thursday night, and another
three-ish hours of the same on Sunday morning. Four rolls
shot, just over a hundred images, about forty of them look not
just usable but quite good. And I managed to combine art with
my strict minimal-sitting-on-the-ass policy, so I'm a very
happy camper.

[Elzinator]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:09:39 GMT, The Queen of Cans and
Jars wrote:
>elzinator <callofthewest@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:15:31 GMT, The Queen of Cans and
>> Jars wrote:
>> >Two weeks in a row now I've put in 3+ hours in the
>> >darkroom during my Tuesday night class and MAN is it
>> >working me! I got out of there last night feeling like I'd
>> >just done a ten-mile hike.
>> >
>> >Except I ended up with 18 prints instead of muddy shoes.
>>
>> From what I recall of my ex spending hours in the darkroom,
>> a radio is essential, as well as a few beers, a barstool
>> that you can park your butt on in between transfers or
>> exposures, and good supportive shoes. He used to spend 4+
>> hours in the darkroom at a time.
>
>I should be wearing different shoes, but I pretty much go
>straight from work to school so I'm always in a pair of Doc
>Martens. They're actually fairly comfortable, but I am so
>aware of how limited my time is that I basically don't take
>a break for anything except a guzzle of water every half
>hour or so.

Pack some protein bars/MRPs/whatever in your back pack. They
worked for me, but now I have a fridge and microwave (and
coffee maker) in my office. They helped out alot. And get a
bar stool for the darkroom.

>> My time in the darkroom is much less than yours, but I'm
>> continually running marathons with the x-ray film and the
>> timer, with an occasional "Fuck!" after dropping the film
>> on the floor. I have night blindness, so I can't see jack
>> shit even with the red lights. (what I like best is
>> occasionally there's too much
>> protein/antibody/chemiluminescence complex and it radiates
>> like radioactive substrate.)
>
>Mmmm, glowing stuff. Can you use the films if you drop them
>or does it wreck them? I'm guessing dust spots on an x-ray
>could be a real bitch.

Yeah, so are fingerprints. I wear gloves ( I call them
'hand condoms')

>> Hope your prints were what you expected/wanted.
>
>All but three were perfect, and the only reason these three
>are sketchy is because I can't seem to spot them, but I'm
>going to try spotting them again and see if I can't get by.
>They're just postcards, so it's not a big deal if I can't
>save them.

Contact sheets?

>> BTW, since you brought this up, I recently found two slides
>> taken by my ex. The photos are beautiful and I'd like to
>> have them printed. One into an 8.10 or larger (preferably).
>> I recall that he used to send most of his color slides out
>> for printing to large formats. Got any suggestions? I don't
>> trust taking these to a local yocal place.
>
>If I wanted Cibachrome prints (oh, and I do!), I think I
>would use these folks:
>
>http://www.cloneachrome.com/index.html

Yup, that's where Cleve sent his colored negs/slides off to
for printing. They do good work.

He mounted and submitted a few occasionally to photography
shows here and there. One winner was done there: a 30 x 40
color pic taken on a foggy morning in the Rockies (with his
old 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 format Hasselblad). It's surreal and won
first place. It hangs in the guest bedroom here. ONe of the
slides is similar to that style (2 grazing horses in the fog
in front of a big oak and a barn entrance that looks like a
cathedral. It's awesome.) He had a very good artistic eye.

>I shoot a lot of slides. And since researching those labs for
>you, I have been infected with a wild, wild sickness to have
>some giclee prints made from my Lomo Colorsplash slides. Like
>a burning fever. Ack.

Hehe. I know the 'bug.'

>I am really, really fired up about photography right now. I
>did more photo-cardio over the weekend: two-point-five hours
>of walking and shooting on Thursday night, and another
>three-ish hours of the same on Sunday morning. Four rolls
>shot, just over a hundred images, about forty of them look
>not just usable but quite good. And I managed to combine art
>with my strict minimal-sitting-on-the-ass policy, so I'm a
>very happy camper.

Excellent. Maybe you should join us for the Utah Canyon Run
this fall. Talk about beauty and color....... My sister and
I are bringing all our cameras, too. Oh, and going for a
trail ride. :)

Thanks for the links. I'm going to try and get a digital copy
of the slides I found (on the converter at work in the imaging
room). I'll email you a few if you'd like, but I need your
email address. And I'd like to see some of your stuff!

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Reality is an illusion created by an intelligence deficiency.