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nobimbo
Mon, Jan-31-05, 05:11
Darwin's Revenge
Why are we getting fat? Because our genes date from the last Ice Age.By Fred Guterl

Newsweek InternationalFeb. 7 issue - Of nature's many guises, winter at the Arctic Circle would have to be one of the least subtle. It's hard to imagine that humans would have survived generations of frigid climate without some adaptation giving them a way to cope. Scientists have in fact postulated a "thrifty genotype" that some humans acquired 30,000 or so years ago during their migration from Asia, across a land bridge at what's now the Bering Strait, to North America. These genes may have given cold warriors an ability to store fat and metabolize it sparingly, a handy trait for the dark, cold months when food is scarce.

Now that the land bridge is long gone, the descendants of these first North Americans are stuck with genes optimized for life in the Ice Age. The same traits that allowed their ancestors to thrive in the Arctic wilderness may be making them uniquely vulnerable to the high-fat, high-cholesterol, sedentary American lifestyle. Members of the Pima tribe of Arizona, for instance, suffer one of the world's highest rates of diabetes—50 percent among adults over the age of 35—and 95 percent of the diabetes sufferers are overweight. The problem with evolution, as the Pimas know firsthand, is that it can't keep pace with the modern world.

What makes the Pima tribe so interesting is that they're like the rest of us, only more so. Asians are thought to possess many of the Pimas' thrifty-genome traits, which may explain why the number of obese Chinese doubled between 1992 and 2002 to 60 million, according to China's Health Ministry. Some Mediterraneans and Africans may not have acquired the thrifty genes of Arctic peoples, but their hunting-and-gathering ancestors didn't leave them a whole lot better equipped. Half of Brazil is now overweight, and one in eight is obese. In France and Italy, about one in three is overweight, and the proportion is rising. All told, about 1.2 billion people in the world are fat, and another 350 million are obese. Obesity-related illnesses, such as heart disease and diabetes, are rising.

Scientists are beginning to appreciate the variations in how different people respond to diet. For most people—particularly Asians—eating food rich in saturated fats will generally increase the level of "bad" cholesterol and decrease the "good" cholesterol. "When [Asians] move from their traditional environment to the West"—or when they start eating at their local McDonald's in Tokyo or Beijing—"they immediately get into trouble with obesity and heart disease—more than Caucasians," says Jose Ordovas, director of the Nutrition and Genomics Laboratory at Tufts University. By the same token, Northern Europeans and Celts, and some Mediterranean populations, tend to have the same cholesterol levels no matter what they eat—the work of a gene inherited from Viking ancestors.

A person's vulnerability to the diseases associated with obesity depends not just on diet but on his level of activity as well. And there's some evidence that activity is a product of biology as well as culture. In a paper published last week in the journal Science, Dr. James Levine, a nutritionist and endocrinologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, reports that a genetic predisposition to obesity may turn on how much a person fidgets. Levine outfitted 10 lean people and 10 overweight people with special underwear that measured and tracked their body postures. (All the participants described themselves as "couch potatoes," he says, and were instructed not to undertake any exercise during the 10-day study.) In the end, the fitter subjects turned out to expend 350 calories a day more than the fatter ones on average—the equivalent of a weight gain of 30 or 40 pounds in a year—merely by getting up and moving around more. To rule out the possibility that lean people fidgeted more because they happened to be lean, Levine then had them gain weight by eating more. When measured, they still fidgeted just as much. Likewise, the fat people didn't fidget more when they gained weight.

Earlier studies suggest a neurochemical basis for the propensity to fidget. For instance, rats injected with the neuropeptide orexin began to "run around their cages like crazy," says Levine. But scientists are only beginning to get a handle on the problem. There's a possibility that fat in the body slows down the metabolism over the long term—a dynamic that Levine's short-term study would have missed. What's certain is that thrifty genes work in more complex ways than scientists appreciate at present. "There's a profound interplay going on between the amount of energy people take in and their level of activity," he says.

The question scientists would ultimately like to answer is how to compensate for the obsolete genes we've inherited from our primitive ancestors. Identifying the hundreds of genes involved—let alone figuring out how to neutralize their ill effects—won't be easy. Undoing thousands of years of evolution never is.

With Anne Underwood

© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6885161/site/newsweek

tom sawyer
Mon, Jan-31-05, 10:13
I was reading with interest, right up until I got to the part about the special tracking underwear.

Maybe the Asians and Native Americans are responding more poorly to the switch to SAD, because they are super-imposing the high fat and processed foods onto a very high carb traditional diet. Not that I find it difficult to believe that different populations have adapted to diet differently, but I think it is generally believed that the entire period of agriculture (10K years or so?) has not been long enough for genetic adaptation to occur. So likewise, we cannot have drifted apart by too awful much.

tom sawyer
Mon, Jan-31-05, 10:15
I found the use of special tracking underwear, to be somewhat amusing. I hope they got to change it, or that alone might account for a certain amount of fidgetiness.

You don't supppose they measured fidgetiness by the amount of skid... never mind.

littlejohn
Mon, Jan-31-05, 10:42
I got to get some of that fidgeters underware!

This study is amazing to me. The native people start eating a sugar loaded diet and they start getting fat and diebetic. This happens to people every time they get their hands on processed white sugar. To blame this on eating saturated fats at McDonalds is just lazy reporting. T.L. Cleave wrote a book back in the 70s that showed that diabetes shows up about 20 years after a people start getting sugar. They get a bunch of cavities and then a bunch of diabetes. Some change in fat consumption could have a little to do with it. But to me the evidence is convincing that sugar(refined white sugar) is what is killing us. And it makes sense that the more "native" a people, the more severe the effect sugar has.

Na - its red meat. Everyone is healthy until they eat red meat?!

Dodger
Mon, Jan-31-05, 11:03
I have been reading about the trhifty genotype for years, but as anyone ever found that there is a genetic difference between modern man and those from 30000 years ago? Most of the human population did not live where the ice ages were affecting their lives. Most lived more southernly.

As for the tracking underware, they could modify it so that if a person is idle for too long, an electical shock would be delivered to remind them to move. In a short time, those people who got frequent reminders would be very fidgetty!

tom sawyer
Mon, Jan-31-05, 11:04
I could see where maybe Native Americans were eating a fairly protein-rich diet at some point, but not recently and not Asians. And if you're already eating a lot of rice, or corn, how does adding in sugar make that much of a difference? Not saying it doesn't happen, just that what they were already living on was plenty high in carbs. I think then, that adding the high fat to the high carb, may have been the culprit. We know you can't have both.

Nancy LC
Mon, Jan-31-05, 11:36
I'm not sure that's true, Tom. I think some carbs are probably harmless as long as you physically active all day long. I think it is because our activity level has plummeted, and our carb intake has increased, that it has all gone to hell. If you're washing clothes by hand and that kind of activity level, you're probably able to process a lot more carbs than if you sit behind a desk typing all day.

And I don't mean working out at the gym... that only lasts for 1/2 an hour or an hour. I'm talking about being physically active from waking until night fall.

tom sawyer
Mon, Jan-31-05, 16:32
OK but then it is a concommittant decrease in activity that has NAs and Asians seeing the effects of dietary changes? I suppose they are chanigng their habits about like the rest of us, but then why are they having a worse time of it than the rest of us?

Shock me anywhere in the underwearal area, and I'm going to ber one unhappy camper.

Nancy LC
Mon, Jan-31-05, 16:43
I suspect the third world countries are modernizing and using a lot of the labor saving devices we are. And they're probably upping their consumption of sugar and refined carbs at the same time!

ceberezin
Mon, Jan-31-05, 18:54
What a foolish study! It's like the drunkard who's looking for his quarter across the street from where he dropped it because the light is better on the wrong side of the street.

Nancy LC - You can burn all the carbs you eat, but that doesn't render them harmless because the carbs will raise your insulin levels well before you burn them. You may not gain weight, but you're still contributing to insulin reistance.

eepobee
Mon, Jan-31-05, 20:59
first, did anyone notice how the author, ann underwood, conveniently slides here editorial comments in between quotes attributed to dr. jose ordovas. i'll highlight what the dr. was quoted as saying: Scientists are beginning to appreciate the variations in how different people respond to diet. For most people—particularly Asians—eating food rich in saturated fats will generally increase the level of "bad" cholesterol and decrease the "good" cholesterol. "When [Asians] move from their traditional environment to the West"—or when they start eating at their local McDonald's in Tokyo or Beijing—"they immediately get into trouble with obesity and heart disease—more than Caucasians," says Jose Ordovas, director of the Nutrition and Genomics Laboratory at Tufts University. By the same token, Northern Europeans and Celts, and some Mediterranean populations, tend to have the same cholesterol levels no matter what they eat—the work of a gene inherited from Viking ancestors.she did this in another article last month. she added commentary to quotes by the doctor. i notified dr. ordovas of this, and he said he was disappointed with the way it came out. i tried to email underwood at newsweek, but couldn't find her email address. if someone can get it please post it here. this kind of journalism needs to stop! sermon over...

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forget the last ice age, here in south korea we're still in the stone age in terms of medical advice.

i watch a weekly health documentary show. they typically warn koreans of the dangers of saturated fat/cholesterol and eating meat. eventhough i don't understand everything, i spend a lot of timd yelling at the tv during this hour. two weeks ago they had a report on the masai. i thought, hmmm...should be interesting to see how they fit the all meat/high-saturated fat/high cholesterol masai diet into their notions of health. they did so by explaining that despite such an "unhealthy" diet, the masai were the epitomy of health because they walked all day. oh, i see (?)...

anyway, this week there was a report on diabetes. it's on the rise here too, but suprizingly (or not), koreans with diabetes are usually not overweight and almost never obese. they documented "success" stories of diabetes sufferers who overcame their disease with primarily exercise. however, they showed these successful people eating their politically-correct meals of vegetables and rice. they blamed the rise in diabetes on westernization (less active/higher-fat diets). i have a sore throat, so i threw a shoe at the tv last night.

because i teach english to korean children, i can tell you with all assuredness that the children don't eat high-fat diets and have grown considerably larger in my short time here (4 years). each year i have a few more children that i would consider obese. it's still a relatively small percentage, but noticeable nontheless. what i see is kids eating snacks all day long. chips, candy, fruit juice, and even dry ramen noodles. they eat their lunches of rice and kimchee (spicy fermented cabbage), but this isn't where the majority of their calories is coming from for sure. if westernization is responsible for these snack foods, then it probably responsible for future problems here. not that anyone here will recognize it anytime soon.

there are over 100 million chinese with diabetes. similar numbers in india, i believe. can it really just be westernization? i definitely think there is a genentic component.

seyont
Mon, Jan-31-05, 22:39
The question scientists would ultimately like to answer is how to compensate for the obsolete genes we've inherited from our primitive ancestors. Identifying the hundreds of genes involved—let alone figuring out how to neutralize their ill effects—won't be easy. Undoing thousands of years of evolution never is.

Ill effects, obsolete genes, undoing evolution? You got a lot on your mind. Pass me a steak knife, would ya?

Ogden
Tue, Feb-01-05, 08:24
i notified dr. ordovas of this, and he said he was disappointed with the way it came out. i tried to email underwood at newsweek, but couldn't find her email address. if someone can get it please post it here. this kind of journalism needs to stop! sermon over...


Preach it! ;)

I'd start here:

Editors~newsweek.com

It's listed as a contact point for Newsweek International. Point out the issues with the article and include a link. Perhaps mention that you emailed the doctor and that he was dissapointed with the article too. (if you still have the email, perhaps include it?) That may get you more milage than just being a concered reader will.

Note: it looks like there is something in the forum software that changes the "at" symbol to "~" in the email address above, so change the "~" back to the symbol for "at". You would have probably figured that out, but just in case.