Has anyone had any luck with the fat flush plan?

[Kazaa]

If you have had succes on the fat flush plan, I would love to hear about it!

[ajmom]

I tried it but didnt do well. Lo carb is the only woe that works because I "need" to be able to eat as much as I want of something,even if its chicken salad!!!lol

[Bizzy_Mom]

Kazaa,

Hi! Yes, I have had success with the Fat Flush Plan and so have many others on this site. CSoar is a moderator for their forum and is a frequent (daily visitor) here. Check out her journal or mine. The FFP website is www.fatflush.com. It has lots of useful information, testimonials and FAQ site.

I lost most of my weight on Atkins and dropped 55lbs within 6 months. Then I stalled. Charli (CSoar) introduced me to the FFP to break my stall, but I liked it so much I've stayed.

The basic concept is to detoxify your body. One drinks 64oz of diluted unsweetened cranberry juice throughout the day of P1 along with hot lemon water in the early morn and a LLC (Long Life Cocktail) consisting of the cranwater and psyllium husks. One omits dairy, caffeine, sugar, wheat, salt and alcohol from the diet. Lean meats and lots of veggies (unlimited) are crucial. Exercise is limited to 20 to 30 minutes of moderate exercise in P1. The cranwater aids in the elimination of cellulite along with the omission of dairy from the diet.

My overall experience has been good. I have lost about 10lbs since September, but lots and lots of inches! Initially I was a size 12 loose, or snug 10 when I quit Atkins. Yet, having only lost 10lbs on FFP I am wearing a 6 or 8 now and have lost in all the places I needed to (hips, thighs and tummy). It has reshaped my body in a short period of time. I would recommend it. I don't miss the dairy either much. Another physical change that occurred for me is that my skin is very clear and even, not blotchy anymore and I stopped shedding hair! My hair is gleaming and the cellulite is disappearing. Also, no more dark circles under my eyes. This plan works with the lymphatic drainage system of our bodies to expel toxins.

I hope this helped some. I'm not an expert, I just know what works for me. Good luck!

Bizzy_Mom

[KoKo]

Has anyone doing this made their own cranberry juice ? I'm having a problem finding Pure unsweetened cranberry juice - I thought I found one, but it turns out it also has some grape and some apple juice in it. Any Canadians ever found it anywhere???

[Kristine]

I saw it at Bulk Barn recently, Koko. But when I did FF, I made my own. It was cheaper.

My opinion of Fat Flush is neutral. It works, but I disagree with a lot of what ALG says in the book. It's supported rather weakly, and I honestly believe that the only reason you lose weight on it is because it's low cal, low fat, low protein, fairly low carb, and whole foods. I was adding stuff in that I wasn't supposed to have and I still came in barely at 1300-1400 calories.

It's good if you're really stalled out and you're at you wit's end, or if you sort of want to do the 'cleansing' thing and give yourself a break from artificial sweeteners, booze, caffeine, etc.

[LukeA]

My opinion of Fat Flush is neutral. It works, but I disagree with a lot of what ALG says in the book. It's supported rather weakly, and I honestly believe that the only reason you lose weight on it is because it's low cal. I'd only recommend it if you're really stalled out and at you wit's end, or you sort of want to do the 'cleansing' thing and give yourself a break from artificial sweeteners, booze, caffeine, etc.

Thats basicly my thoughts on the FFP as well. I was on it for a time, and did lose some, but I felt weak and ill for the whole time. I found sticking to the low calorie count was difficult. That said I have a few good friends that still swear by it, so I am not entirely against it.

[SusanKH]

The low calorie count has me worried, too. I wanted to try it but I have a terrible fear of being hungry. Silly, I know but I am diabetic and it's dangerous if my sugars get too low. That said, I think her approach to eating all organic and whole foods is wonderful - just not real practical in today's world. You have to really want to do and be willing to take the extra time and $$$ to search out these things.

[Bizzy_Mom]

KoKo,

I have the book (page 55)and it says the following:

Put a 12oz bag of cranberries into a large saucepan. Add about 4 cups of purified water, and boil until all the berries pop. Strain the juice, and if you like, you can add a touch of Stevia Plus to take the edge off the tartness (brave souls can take it straight). This recipe makes about 32oz of straight cranberry juice, enough for about 4 days.

The ratio to dilute is 4 oz of unsweetened cranberry juice to 28 oz of water. You need two pitchers of this to total the 64oz daily requirement.

Hope this helps~

Bizzy

[Nancy LC]

Not exactly on topic, but I boiled cranberries for the first time over christmas and I had no idea they'd pop like that! It was so much fun!

Now, around here I don't think you can buy cranberries except from Nov-Dec.

[Bizzy_Mom]

Nancy,

They're in season and cheap, cheap, cheap in my neck of the woods!

Biz

[LukeA]

Now, around here I don't think you can buy cranberries except from Nov-Dec.

Most places in the "off season" (not around thanksgiving or christmas etc), have cranberries stocked in the freezer section. :)

[KoKo]

Thanks SO Much Bizzy,

I have a lot of cranberries in the freezer and just tried making some juice by pulverizing them to death in the food processor and then adding some water and cooking them and pressing them (I found that method at the forum you linked us to earlier) - I tasted it and it doesn't taste BAD so I'm thinking it's not strong enough. Your method sounds like it would work better and I'll try that next.

and thanks Kristine, I think we have some bulk barns around here and if I decide to continue will check it out.

[Bizzy_Mom]

KoKo,

Glad to help, anytime!

~Biz

[SusanKH]

After I posted that somewhat negative reply, I felt bad. My only excuse is that my blood sugars really were very low, which causes me to feel negative. Actually I am going to do the FFP. The difference is, I'm easing into the two week Phase 1. In her book, ALG suggests weaning yourself off things before starting. Right now I'm working on caffiene and fried foods. Then, in another week or so, I am really going to give it a heartfelt try. I like the idea of cleansing my liver, especially at my age (48). Our resident expert is csoar2004. If you have questions, you can visit her journal and she is always ready and willing to help you out.

[SusanKH]

On pages 43 -44 of her book, ALG says, "The week before you begin phase 1 is the best tiem to prepare your system for the FFP. Probably one of the most important preparations is to begin increasing your water intake between meals. Begin drinking at least two glasses between breakfast and lunch and two more between lunch and dinner. This will start increasing your hydration and acreate the new habit of powere drinking to get more water into your system. After you feel confident that your hydration levels are increasing, begin to banish all transfats from margarine, fried foods, adn processed vegetable oils. Next, eliminate all of the whites from your diet: white sugar, white rice and white flour. Stock up instead on lots of fiber-rich vegetables in all colors of the rainbow...
By far the most important thing you can do to prepare your system for the plan is gradually taper off all alcohol, coffee, tea, colas, and soft drinks. This includes any regular or decaf or aspartame sweetened beverages."

That's what I'm working on this week and next week. It always did take me longer to learn my lessons than others - that's why a two week preparation period rather than one.

[chmerasfyr]

:help: Can Anyone post an example FFP meal plan for the day (or week :D )? I want to try this. Ive tried atkins but for some reason it doesnt quite work for me. My energy really drops and i find it difficult to stay on it.which isnt good cuase im taking care of an 8 month old baby and he really takes up my energy!! ( maybe i just have to toughen up & get through it?) Its harder for me to find the books cuase i moved to spain recently and so far i havnt found ANY english libraries> :P
thnkx!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dina1957]

Thats basicly my thoughts on the FFP as well. I was on it for a time, and did lose some, but I felt weak and ill for the whole time. I found sticking to the low calorie count was difficult. That said I have a few good friends that still swear by it, so I am not entirely against it.I've tried FF for a few days, felt really sick. I'm not caffein and sugar junkie, so I assumed that it was too little food for me and especially too little fat. I was hungry all the time, and 2 tbs flax oil did not cut in. For me it was same old low calories diet, which would be fine if I'd eating more fat. I was so irritable, and so much cranwater started to burn a hole in my stomach. I was seriously determined to follow this plan, but just could not. I also watch my BGs, and try to avoid snacking. It's easy to lose weight on 1100 calories a day, if you can do this. Also, I use good quality Celtic salt in moderation but could not eat everything salt free, I like spices and such but wihtout a bit of salt it did not work. I was also concern that too little calories for two weeks will crush my metabolism even further, so even if I lose, I'd re-gain it even faster, been there, done this. But I've ordered the supplements and will continue to take them until I'm finished. I think after more than 2 years of high fat diet (about 60%) I simply can't go back to eating low fat, even for 2 weeks. I missed my butter and olive oil, flax oil is fine as long as I take it as a supplement (in my shakes). I'm not against this diet, it can be a life saver but if I have to choose, I'd rather choose Atkins Induction. Everyone's metabolism is different. I also think that good quality sea salt is a must and should not be avoided. Salt free and low calories period is to jump start weight loss, it all comes to calories. I'm not allergic to dairy and do not eat wheat anyway, so if you come from eating a high carb diet, than FF would work for you, I've been sugar and wheat free for years, so it does not make a dramatic impression on me.

[Nancy LC]

You know, a part of me is interested but another part of me is pretty skeptical. No offense to the people on it, I admire your resolve and will-power! I don't think I could do it.

The author of this plan was also involved in Pritikin, way back when. That was another diet that was super difficult to follow. Maybe there's some sort of connection, like the author likes lots of discipline and strict rules.

Another point I think is that the stricter the diet two things follow:

1) It's known, or at least I've heard, that the less choices you have, the less you'll eat. Refer to that old M&M experiment when people eat more of them the more colors there are.

2) The harder it is to stay on the diet.

So I have to wonder, if someone finds Atkin's difficult to stay on because it is restrictive or requires too much cooking and preparation, they're going to have an even harder time on this plan.

Here's another thing that bugs me. The salt restriction will probably make you retain less water so you'll have an instant whoosh when you start following her guidelines. However, its truly just water but people will be excited over it.

So my skeptical nature compells me to wonder whether the weightloss is really due to the lowered calories, which stands to reason, do you really need to go to all this fuss and misery? And then the initial whoosh of a pound or two from lowered sodium intake.

[dina1957]

:help: Can Anyone post an example FFP meal plan for the day (or week :D )? I want to try this. Ive tried atkins but for some reason it doesnt quite work for me. My energy really drops and i find it difficult to stay on it.which isnt good cuase im taking care of an 8 month old baby and he really takes up my energy!! ( maybe i just have to toughen up & get through it?) Its harder for me to find the books cuase i moved to spain recently and so far i havnt found ANY english libraries> :P
thnkx!!!!!!!!!!!!chmerasfyr:
In a nut shell, it's : 2 eggs daily, 8 ounces of cooked lean protein, unlimited non-starchy vegetables (except 1 carrot a day), 2 portions of low GI fruit (midmorning and midafternoon snacks), 64 ounces of clean water made with 8 ounces non-sweetened cranberry juice (cranwater), 2 lc whey protein shakes (only specified brands), and 2 tbs flaxseed oil spread thorughout the day. No salt, no spices or herbs except allotted, no alcohol, no oils or butter except flax oil and also flax meal (2 tbs), no nuts or beans, no coffee (even decaf) , regular tea (except dandelion), dairy, wheat or any grain. I hope I did not missed anything. You can have only thermogenic and cleansing spices This is for Phase 1. You also have to take recommended supplements. After 2 weeks, you proceed to P2 and gradually introduce more cabrs, and then you graduate to P3. 1st 2 weeks is the most strict ones. You definetly need a the book, it has a complete regimen and the recipes. There are ppl that had success on this plan, it works if you can stick to it. I simply could not.
HTH
Dina
P.S. Oh, and I forgot : no soy except fermented, like miso and tempeh

[Bizzy_Mom]

Chmerasfyr,

The website has a sample menu www.fatflush.com. In a nutshell, Dina is correct. One thing you also cannot have during P1 is sugar. Some Stevia Plus is allowed. There is a specific order of doing things though with this plan. Also, you must take psyllium husks and chromium picolinate and a GLA supplement (like borage oil or evening primrose).

Also, the order is something like this for P1 (following the book in front of me):

On Arising:
Drink your LLC (Long Life Cocktail) Diluted cranwater (8oz) with the psyllium husks.

Before Breakfast:
8oz of hot water with 1/2 a lemon squeezed in.

Breakfast:
2 Omega-3 (organic) eggs with veggies (they're unlimited) and 8oz of cranwater

Midmorning Snack:
1/2 large grapefruit (you can also have apple, 2 plums, tangerines)

20 minutes before lunch:
8oz of cranwater

Lunch:
4oz lean meat, poultry or fish with veggies
1tbsp flax oil
8oz cranwater

Midafternoon
8oz cranwater

4pm Snack: 1 apple

20 minutes before dinner: 8oz of cranwater

Dinner: 4oz lean meat, poultry or fish with veggies

Midevening: LLC again

You can also have yummy smoothies (whey). It's really a good idea to have the book. Charli (CSoar) on this site is a moderator for the Fat Flush Forum and is always willing and eager to advise. Visit her journal. We're also online here in chat M-F from 8-9 a.m. (Central time)to answer any questions.

Hope this helps!

~Biz

[dina1957]

Nancy,

They're in season and cheap, cheap, cheap in my neck of the woods!

Biz99 cents for a bag in our area.

[Nancy LC]

Hmmm... Frozen or fresh? As soon as the holidays passed they were gone from Trader Joe's. I don't visit a regular grocery store much, but I will. I lurve cranberries!

[dina1957]

Hmmm... Frozen or fresh? As soon as the holidays passed they were gone from Trader Joe's. I don't visit a regular grocery store much, but I will. I lurve cranberries!Fresh in our local grocery. I like cranberries too but not the variety sold in US. They are the best when the frost just "kisses" them a bit, naturally, not from freezer. Also, those were wild, not cultivated, I can't believe how much it can affect the taste. So, they just juicy and simply pop in your mouth. They are very popular in Northern Russia. :yum:

[chmerasfyr]

Wow!! Than you everyone so much for your suggestions. I will have to go out anf find phylium husk and cranberries and then give it a try! We'll see if it works for me. :) thank u again

Also have any of you heard of a this diet by Lille Ross? Its like a speed diet to jump start the metabl. in 1 week and then afterwards u move on to a maintanence diet.u all know the procedure. But has any one even heard of it and if it does work?

Thankx again!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

[dina1957]

Also have any of you heard of a this diet by Lille Ross? Its like a speed diet to jump start the metabl. in 1 week and then afterwards u move on to a maintanence diet.u all know the procedure. But has any one even heard of it and if it does work?
Never heard if this plan until ur mentioned, so here is the link
http://www.dollardiet.com/.
It's some Souper soup for the 1 st week, for the entire program you have to buy the book. I've learned hard way after many years of different diets: the faster you lose weight, the taster you will gain it back. So, I don't follow any "miracle " soup diets any more. But you can still get your free recipe and tips from this site.
Good luck and let us know.
Dina