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4beans4me
Sat, Dec-18-04, 07:33
Which is a better way to lose weight ... cutting fat or cutting carbs?

By Mary F. Longo




It's the time of year when most of us throw our diets to the wind and wait for the new year so we can maybe have success with our resolution in January. A recent news release from Ohio State shared information on what type of diet is best. While you may not be interested in this right now, remember in just three short weeks it will be 2005!

So, which is better to lose weight? Is it cutting fat or cutting carbohydrates? Actually, the best answer is "cutting calories." If you trim the calories you consume and increase calories you burn, then you're on the right road to losing weight.

Still, your question is a sound one, and one that researchers have taken seriously. While juries are still out on definitive answers for long-term weight loss, a study

presented at the North American Association for the Study of Obesity sheds some light.

The study, led by researchers at Brown Medical School, examined more than 2,700 participants in the National Weight Control Registry (http://www.nwcr.ws/), (http://www.nwcr.ws/)) which

began in 1993. The registry asks people who have lost at least 30 pounds and maintained the loss for at least a year to keep track of their weight ups and downs. More than 4,000 people are now registered. Most are women, and they average a weight loss of about 60 pounds.

In the recent study, researchers examined members who had enrolled in 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001 and 2003. No matter what year they joined, participants reported consuming about 1,400 calories a day - that, at least, remained somewhat consistent.

However, members who joined the registry more recently reported increasing intake of both overall fat and saturated fat, while the percent of calories from carbohydrates dropped from 56 percent to 49 percent. In addition, the proportion of members who ate less than 90 grams of carbohydrates per day increased from 6 percent in 1995 to 17 percent in 2003. The low carbohydrate aficionados were out in force.

The researchers said that the type of diet - low-carb, low-fat or low-calorie - that participants initially used to lose weight didn't appear to make much of a difference in whether they were able to lose weight. But researchers found that those who increased their fat intake and cut carbs over the course of a year tended to re-gain at least some of the pounds they had lost. An earlier study of registry participants, published in 1999 in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, reported that those who regained weight tended to decrease physical activity and increase fat intake. They also were more likely to have lost a lot of weight more recently. Those researchers concluded that the longer you can keep the weight off, the easier it gets. So, no matter how you decide to cut calories, remember to keep at it, and keep moving. That should lead to success.

http://www.marionstar.com/news/stories/20041218/localnews/1760802.html

K Walt
Sat, Dec-18-04, 08:17
Okay, sort of interesting stuff. But it's all built on a tiny segment of people who happened to fill out forms in this silly Registry. The data is all self-reported, impossible to verify or check. Is it a representative sample of the entire country? Impossible to guess.

Maybe people who voluntarily seek out Registries and fill out forms have different personalities, needs, and tendencies. Who knows.

The way these people phrase it, it sounds like they're trying to say "if you lose weight by cutting carbs. . . you will gain back any weight you lose, through some mysterious process." So don't even try.

But DUH, anyone who INCREASES (be it fat or carbs) an element of diet after losing weight will gain weight.

If you lose weight by controlling portions, you will gain weight when you stop controlling your portions.

If you lose weight by skipping meals,you will gain weight when you stop skipping meals.

If you lose weight by cutting carbs, you will gain weight when you stop cutting carb.

If you lose weight by cutting out the fat, you will gain weight when you stop cutting out fat.


If you lose weight by following WW, you will gain weight when you stop following WW.

Ad infinitum. . . .

JL53563
Sat, Dec-18-04, 13:40
"But researchers found that those who increased their fat intake and cut carbs over the course of a year tended to re-gain at least some of the pounds they had lost."

Ok, tell me who is more likely to increase their fat intake AFTER they have lost the weight: A low fat dieter or a low carb dieter?

ItsTheWooo
Sat, Dec-18-04, 15:24
Beyond deceptive.
They first mention that irregardless of how /where calories are cut, all dieters tend to eat an average of 1400 calories per day.

OK, great.

Then later they said but of those dieters who gain weight back, fat increases and percentage of calories from carbs decrease.

Notice how they subtley try to make it appear as if this is true for all dieters - even those who reduced calories primarily by cutting carbohydrate. However if you look closer, you'll notice the two statements are unrelated. Meaning, that calories from fat tend to increase in the diet when one regains weight is just a general trend, and by no means the case for every type of diet or dieter. The reason this is a general trend can be easily explained away by the fact that most people in the registry cut calories by eliminating or reducing dietary fat, so once they stop adhering to the diets due to their unsustainability (or due to their own willful non-compliance) it's only natural that calories from fat are going to be increasing.

I also find it interesting that they are implying all those who are successful with weight loss must carefully control and record every morsel that passes their lips. How psychologically unhealthy. How unsustainable.
I count absolutely nothing and I've not only maintained my weight for several weeks now - but my body composition continues to change and I continue to drop sizes as I burn fat and build healthy muscle.
How? I changed what and how I eat. I eat when I'm hungry. When I'm hungry, I eat food that I know will nourish my body and keep it runing well - higher fat, protein, lower carb, unprocessed/whole as possible. I do eat small bits of "bad" food as it becomes me, but never when I'm hungry, and never in large amounts except on special occasions.
It's that simple. Why do we have to complicate such a simple thing as eating?

finnz
Sun, Dec-19-04, 07:53
I have found that losing weight on any diet does require a certain amount of self control. More is required on a low fat diet as you are constantly hungry than on a low carb diet. Those individuals on the LF may have attained a higher level of this self control having to fight their cravings every day and therefore are more unlikely to regress back into their old eating habits.

tom sawyer
Mon, Dec-20-04, 09:44
Thanks for the link to the registry, I had heard about it before and wanted to join. I just signed up, hopefully more of us LCers will join and make the data reflect the facts. Especially men, it seems most of their members are women for whatever reason.