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Peanutjake
Wed, Aug-11-04, 18:19
Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
they could harm children
CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
Associated Press
COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
if eaten regularly. The 18 products, which include enriched
versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like
Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be launched
in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications for a number
of enriched products which will have toxic effects in the
doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of the Danish
Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby said that if eaten
regularly, the products could damage children's livers and
kidneys, as well as the fetuses of pregnant women. Kellogg
said it was puzzled by the rejection, as many of the products
are being sold already in several other European countries.
"We're extremely concerned and mystified, as we never have had
such problems with health authorities before in Kellogg's
history," said John Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in
the Nordic region. The 18 products include 12 types of cereal
brands and six types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles said
the European enrichment recipes were slightly different from
the ones used in the United States, although Kellogg's
products are fortified there as well and have been since the
1930s. "Our next step is to work with Danish authorities and
see if we can come up with a solution. The important thing
here is for us to work in concert," Buckles said. Chris
Wermann, a spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have
further discussions with Danish authorities about the
importance of vitamins in cereals." Meanwhile, Drotsby said
Kellogg could apply again if the company removes or reduces
the doses of the vitamins and minerals in question. The
rejection was delivered to Kellogg last month after a
government laboratory conducted a scientific examination of
the ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
Bj In Texa
Wed, Aug-11-04, 18:20
"Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote in message
news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
> they could
harm children
>
> CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
>
> Associated Press
>
> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
> they have
banned several
> vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
> Kellogg, saying
they could be harmful if
> eaten regularly.
It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. Has
the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What contry is
the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly someplace besides
Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing facility in Demark?
BJ
Alan Macke
Wed, Aug-11-04, 18:20
Peanutjake <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote on Wed, 11 Aug 2004
13:10:55 -0400:
> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
> they could harm children
> CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
> Associated Press
> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
> they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
> breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
> if eaten regularly.
> The 18 products, which include enriched versions of popular
> brands already on the Danish market like Corn Flakes, Rice
> Krispies and Special K, were to be launched in Denmark soon.
> "We've turned down applications for a number of enriched
> products which will have toxic effects in the doses Kellogg
> uses," said Paolo Drotsby of the Danish Veterinary and Food
> Administration. Drotsby said that if eaten regularly, the
> products could damage children's livers and kidneys, as well
> as the fetuses of pregnant women.
But, presumably, other foetuses will be OK. Provided, of
course, they don't eat too much Special K. Which reminds me -
some while ago, I remember Special K being reclassified by the
BDA from "sort of OK in moderation" to "only touch with a
barge pole" after its recipe was changed to use vastly more
sugar than previously.
> Kellogg said it was puzzled by the rejection, as many of the
> products are being sold already in several other European
> countries.
> "We're extremely concerned and mystified, as we never have
> had such problems with health authorities before in
> Kellogg's history," said John Buckles, managing director for
> Kellogg in the Nordic region. The 18 products include 12
> types of cereal brands and six types of snack or breakfast
> bars. Buckles said the European enrichment recipes were
> slightly different from the ones used in the United States,
> although Kellogg's products are fortified there as well and
> have been since the
> 1930s. "Our next step is to work with Danish authorities
> and see if we can come up with a solution. The
> important thing here is for us to work in concert,"
> Buckles said.
> Chris Wermann, a spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We
> will have further discussions with Danish authorities about
> the importance of vitamins in cereals."
Talk about patronising bastards! Perhaps Mr. Wermann would do
better to learn from the Danes about the importance of
properly balanced diets, and to modify his company's recipes
to conform.
> Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could apply again if the
> company removes or reduces the doses of the vitamins and
> minerals in question.
> The rejection was delivered to Kellogg last month after a
> government laboratory conducted a scientific examination of
> the ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
> Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
> countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
> afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
--
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decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"),
remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").
David
Wed, Aug-11-04, 18:20
What the cross-posting, folks.
Hmmm, maybe that explains me being diabetic? I grew up eating
Rice Krispies. Snap, Crackle, Pop!
David
Peanutjake wrote:
> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
> they could harm children
>
> CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
>
> Associated Press
>
> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
> they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
> breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
> if eaten regularly. The 18 products, which include enriched
> versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like
> Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be
> launched in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications
> for a number of enriched products which will have toxic
> effects in the doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of
> the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby said
> that if eaten regularly, the products could damage
> children's livers and kidneys, as well as the fetuses of
> pregnant women. Kellogg said it was puzzled by the
> rejection, as many of the products are being sold already in
> several other European countries. "We're extremely concerned
> and mystified, as we never have had such problems with
> health authorities before in Kellogg's history," said John
> Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in the Nordic region.
> The 18 products include 12 types of cereal brands and six
> types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles said the European
> enrichment recipes were slightly different from the ones
> used in the United States, although Kellogg's products are
> fortified there as well and have been since the 1930s. "Our
> next step is to work with Danish authorities and see if we
> can come up with a solution. The important thing here is for
> us to work in concert," Buckles said. Chris Wermann, a
> spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have further
> discussions with Danish authorities about the importance of
> vitamins in cereals." Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could
> apply again if the company removes or reduces the doses of
> the vitamins and minerals in question. The rejection was
> delivered to Kellogg last month after a government
> laboratory conducted a scientific examination of the
> ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
> Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
> countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
> afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
>
>Subject: Re: Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K
>From: "BJ in Texas" bjtexas@hotmale.com Date: 8/11/2004 11:46
>AM Mountain Daylight Time Message-id:
><TXsSc.1687$U12.1179@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>
>
>
>"Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote in message
>news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1@uni-berlin.de...
>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
>> they could
>harm children
>>
>> CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
>>
>> Associated Press
>>
>> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said
>> Wednesday they have
>banned several
>> vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
>> Kellogg, saying
>they could be harmful if
>> eaten regularly.
>
>It is likely political rather than content of the cereals.
>Has the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What
>contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly
>someplace besides Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing
>facility in Demark?
>
>BJ
Could it somehow relate to the fact since another of the
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country .. with .. iron .. they have had a 25% drop in
antidepressant medication in their country .. ?
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Pete
Thu, Aug-12-04, 05:17
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
<peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
>they could harm children
Why you x poast this shit?
J. David A
Thu, Aug-12-04, 05:17
Pete wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
>>they could harm children
>
>
> Why you x poast this shit?
>
If you object to the crossposts so much, why didn't you remove
them before replying?
I don't feel that the crossposts were excessive, the post
is likely to have interest in all of the groups where it
was posted.
Regards
David
J. David A
Thu, Aug-12-04, 05:17
BJ in Texas wrote:
> "Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
>>they could
>
> harm children
>
>>CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
>>
>>Associated Press
>>
>>COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
>>they have
>
> banned several
>
>>vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
>>Kellogg, saying
>
> they could be harmful if
>
>>eaten regularly.
>
>
> It is likely political rather than content of the cereals.
I doubt it.
Denmark has high standards regarding food laws, and a policy
of not accepting political interference. It has banned other
products that are readily available in the western world. It
has banned Red Bull, most common pesticides, amalgam in
dentistry, water fluoridation, many supplements, etc., etc.
Denmark is probably less politically influenced than most
western countries. It seems (unusually) to put its people
first, ahead of profits for the private sector. Other
countries could learn from it.
Regards
David
Ted Rosenb
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels
of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe
in added vitamins.
Peanutjake wrote:
> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
> they could harm children
>
> CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
>
> Associated Press
>
> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday
> they have banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S.
> breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful
> if eaten regularly. The 18 products, which include enriched
> versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like
> Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be
> launched in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications
> for a number of enriched products which will have toxic
> effects in the doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of
> the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby said
> that if eaten regularly, the products could damage
> children's livers and kidneys, as well as the fetuses of
> pregnant women. Kellogg said it was puzzled by the
> rejection, as many of the products are being sold already in
> several other European countries. "We're extremely concerned
> and mystified, as we never have had such problems with
> health authorities before in Kellogg's history," said John
> Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in the Nordic region.
> The 18 products include 12 types of cereal brands and six
> types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles said the European
> enrichment recipes were slightly different from the ones
> used in the United States, although Kellogg's products are
> fortified there as well and have been since the 1930s. "Our
> next step is to work with Danish authorities and see if we
> can come up with a solution. The important thing here is for
> us to work in concert," Buckles said. Chris Wermann, a
> spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have further
> discussions with Danish authorities about the importance of
> vitamins in cereals." Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could
> apply again if the company removes or reduces the doses of
> the vitamins and minerals in question. The rejection was
> delivered to Kellogg last month after a government
> laboratory conducted a scientific examination of the
> ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said.
> Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160
> countries. Its shares rose a penny to $41.11 in early
> afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
>
>
>
--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
observing from the present" Glen Cook
Jren57
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
"Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
news:2o19hpF5l4klU2@uni-berlin.de...
> The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
> levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't
> believe in added
vitamins.
The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high
levels of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz
products as well!
Peanutjake
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>
> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
> >they could harm children
>
> Why you x poast this shit?
>
Because it may be important news to the readers of four
diabetic newsgroups.
It is not off topic. It is not spam.
PJ
Ted Rosenb
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
No twit try learning how to read, they were banned because of
too many added VITAMINS, not sugar or salt.
jren57 wrote:
> "Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
> news:2o19hpF5l4klU2@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
>>levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't
>>believe in added
>
> vitamins.
>
> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels
> of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz products
> as well!
>
>
--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
observing from the present" Glen Cook
Ted Rosenb
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
Instead of simply crossposting some half baked comment, it
would have been helpful to bother to check the FACTS first,
and find out that the reason they are banned is because
Denmark, like many other countries, is getting concerned that
people, particularly children, are taking to many vitimines,
and that they are BAD for them.
Peanutjake wrote:
> "Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
> news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
>
>>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>><peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying
>>>they could harm children
>>
>>Why you x poast this shit?
>>
>
>
> Because it may be important news to the readers of four
> diabetic newsgroups.
>
> It is not off topic. It is not spam.
>
> PJ
>
>
--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
observing from the present" Glen Cook
Pete
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
<peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
>news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
>> >saying they could harm children
>> Why you x poast this shit?
>Because it may be important news to the readers of four
>diabetic newsgroups.
What is so important about it?
>It is not off topic.
I never said it was
>It is not spam.
I never said it was
>PJ
Tim Kettri
Thu, Aug-12-04, 18:19
"Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
news:2o1k55F5t5a7U1@uni-berlin.de...
> No twit try learning how to read, they were banned because
> of too many added VITAMINS, not sugar or salt.
>
Yes , and the radio news said ( citing the posted article )
said that Denmark says that too much vitamin fortification can
cause kidney trouble and trouble with other organs too ,
especially in children .
> jren57 wrote:
> > "Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
> > news:2o19hpF5l4klU2@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
> >>levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency
> >>doesn't believe in added
> >
> > vitamins.
> >
> > The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high
> > levels of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz
> > products as well!
> >
> >
>
> --
> "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
> history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
> observing from the
present"
> Glen Cook
Bob ...Wit
Fri, Aug-13-04, 18:20
On 12-Aug-2004, "J. David Anderson"
<jdavidanderson_@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Denmark ... seems (unusually) to put its people first, ahead
> of profits for the private sector. Other countries could
> learn from it.
IF ONLY. I don't know what the reason is for this, but I would
congratulate a government that banned high carbohydrate foods
for children.
Regards, Bob
--
Bob Dx T1 4/4/2003, just a few units of novorapid when I need
it (trying zeroish carb - kiddies, do not try this at home)
Schuyler C
Sat, Aug-14-04, 05:17
In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>
> >"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
> >news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
> >> >saying they could harm children
> >> Why you x poast this shit?
>
> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four
> >diabetic newsgroups.
>
> What is so important about it?
>
>
> >It is not off topic.
>
> I never said it was
>
> >It is not spam.
>
> I never said it was
>
> >PJ
>
>
>
This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is
that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of
corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together
with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding
about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're
talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size
microwave bowls full of cereal.
The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after
eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or
more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't
understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating
all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The
only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed
vegetables?
Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat
a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can handle
that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to do with
the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
Later
Wood
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:30:12 -0400, Ted Rosenberg
<tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote:
>No twit try learning how to read, they were banned because of
>too many added VITAMINS, not sugar or salt.
>
>jren57 wrote:
>> "Ted Rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
>> news:2o19hpF5l4klU2@uni-berlin.de...
>>
>>>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high
>>>levels of VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't
>>>believe in added
>>
>> vitamins.
>>
>> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels
>> of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz products
>> as well!
>>
>>
the real problem with kelloggs products is that they are shit,
which also isn't in the article - try learning how to tolerate
Alan
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:47:51 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
<schuylercolfax@charterinternet.com> wrote:
>In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
>aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
>> >news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>> >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
>> >> >saying they could harm children
>> >> Why you x poast this shit?
>>
>> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four
>> >diabetic newsgroups.
>>
>> What is so important about it?
>>
>>
>> >It is not off topic.
>>
>> I never said it was
>>
>> >It is not spam.
>>
>> I never said it was
>>
>> >PJ
>>
>>
>>
>This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
>because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
>blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is
>that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of
>corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together
>with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding
>about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're
>talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size
>microwave bowls full of cereal.
>
>The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after
>eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200
>or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't
>understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating
>all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The
>only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed
>vegetables?
>
>Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
>problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat
>a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can handle
>that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to do with
>the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
>
>Later
What are the times after eating that those readings represent?
Are they one-hour, two-hour or something else. Presuming you
are T2, I'd suspect you're peaking very high very quickly then
plunging low.
Try a test next time at 30 mins and 1 hr.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to
email.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Jenny
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
It sounds like you are experiencing a reactive low blood
sugar. This is not good. Your blood sugar probably surged very
high and then over time secreted a large amount of insulin
which brought the blood sugar down again.
Typically this will happen for a while, then it will
stop--because your beta cells have lost their ability to make
any more insulin. At that point you'll just go high and stay
there longer and longer.
I experienced the same thing when I was younger. Now I don't
go low no matter what I eat but I sure can go high.
But the important thing to note is that this reactive swing
means your beta cells still can make insulin. Why not take a
load off them by cutting way back on the carbs now, so that
you preserve what function you have left? That will mean you
need a lot less medication later.
--
Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight.
Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my
email address!
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"Schuyler Colfax" <schuylercolfax@charterinternet.com> wrote
in message news:MPG.1b878db04af90a309896f2@news.charter.net...
> In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
> aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> > <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
> > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> > >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
> > >> >saying they
could harm children
> > >> Why you x poast this shit?
> >
> > >Because it may be important news to the readers of four
> > >diabetic
newsgroups.
> >
> > What is so important about it?
> >
> >
> > >It is not off topic.
> >
> > I never said it was
> >
> > >It is not spam.
> >
> > I never said it was
> >
> > >PJ
> >
> >
> >
> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
> because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
> blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is
> that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of
> corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together
> with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding
> about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're
> talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size
> microwave bowls full of cereal.
>
> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after
> eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200
> or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't
> understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating
> all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The
> only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed
> vegetables?
>
> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
> problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to
> eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can
> handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to
> do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
>
> Later
Ted Rosenb
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
I doubt seriously your reading is correct.
Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and see
what you get
My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken
immediately) were 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading
Actual is obviously in the 90-110 range
Schuyler Colfax wrote:
> In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
> aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
>
>>On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>><peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
>>>news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>>>><peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
>>>>>saying they could harm children
>>>>
>>>>Why you x poast this shit?
>>
>>>Because it may be important news to the readers of four
>>>diabetic newsgroups.
>>
>>What is so important about it?
>>
>>
>>
>>>It is not off topic.
>>
>>I never said it was
>>
>>
>>>It is not spam.
>>
>>I never said it was
>>
>>
>>>PJ
>>
>>
>>
> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
> because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
> blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is
> that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of
> corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together
> with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding
> about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're
> talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size
> microwave bowls full of cereal.
>
> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after
> eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200
> or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't
> understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating
> all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The
> only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed
> vegetables?
>
> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
> problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to
> eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can
> handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to
> do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
>
> Later
--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
observing from the present" Glen Cook
Schuyler C
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
In article <rutrh0ds6pbu0tj6taamrqvd3er9v0ehsp@4ax.com>,
loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au says...
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:47:51 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
> <schuylercolfax@charterinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
> >aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
> >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> >> >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
> >> >> >saying they could harm children
> >> >> Why you x poast this shit?
> >>
> >> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four
> >> >diabetic newsgroups.
> >>
> >> What is so important about it?
> >>
> >>
> >> >It is not off topic.
> >>
> >> I never said it was
> >>
> >> >It is not spam.
> >>
> >> I never said it was
> >>
> >> >PJ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
> >because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
> >blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here
> >is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big
> >bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed
> >together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started
> >adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now
> >we're talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium
> >size microwave bowls full of cereal.
> >
> >The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after
> >eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200
> >or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just
> >don't understand why it is dropping instead of rising after
> >eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours
> >ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate
> >of mixed vegetables?
> >
> >Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
> >problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to
> >eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can
> >handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to
> >do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
> >
> >Later
>
> What are the times after eating that those readings
> represent? Are they one-hour, two-hour or something else.
> Presuming you are T2, I'd suspect you're peaking very high
> very quickly then plunging low.
>
> Try a test next time at 30 mins and 1 hr.
>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs
> to email.
>
I there, well about twelve hours had passed when I took the
tests. I just awoke now and took my sugar. It is "101" That's
really weird. I have eaten nothing in the last 5.5 hours while
I slept, but it went up 23 points.
I've lost about twenty pounds over the last few months also.
Perhaps that is making things a little easier. I'm just glad
it didn't drop to below zero while I slept. I could have woke
up to find that the groundhog was bringing me my mail.
Spater
Ted Rosenb
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
font problems - I am now assuming that you are posting "73"
followed by an exclamation point, not "731"
The reading STILL may be wrong, asnd should have been chcked.
Also remember that a reading of 73, WITHOUT a major problem
means between 59 and 91.
going from 71 to 78 is NOT "rising". The readings are too
close to tell
Ted Rosenberg wrote:
> I doubt seriously your reading is correct.
>
> Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and
> see what you get
>
> My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken
> immediately) were 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading
> Actual is obviously in the 90-110 range
>
> Schuyler Colfax wrote:
>
>> In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
>> aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>>>>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
>>>>>> saying they could harm children
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why you x poast this shit?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Because it may be important news to the readers of four
>>>> diabetic newsgroups.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is so important about it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is not off topic.
>>>
>>>
>>> I never said it was
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is not spam.
>>>
>>>
>>> I never said it was
>>>
>>>
>>>> PJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
>> because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
>> blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here
>> is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big
>> bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed
>> together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started
>> adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now
>> we're talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium
>> size microwave bowls full of cereal.
>>
>> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after
>> eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200
>> or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just
>> don't understand why it is dropping instead of rising after
>> eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours
>> ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate
>> of mixed vegetables?
>>
>> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
>> problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to
>> eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can
>> handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to
>> do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
>>
>> Later
>
>
--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
observing from the present" Glen Cook
Alan
Sat, Aug-14-04, 18:18
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 09:25:46 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
<schuylercolfax@charterinternet.com> wrote:
>In article <rutrh0ds6pbu0tj6taamrqvd3er9v0ehsp@4ax.com>,
>loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au says...
>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:47:51 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
>> <schuylercolfax@charterinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
>> >aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
>> >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>> >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
>> >> >> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
>> >> >> >saying they could harm children
>> >> >> Why you x poast this shit?
>> >>
>> >> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four
>> >> >diabetic newsgroups.
>> >>
>> >> What is so important about it?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >It is not off topic.
>> >>
>> >> I never said it was
>> >>
>> >> >It is not spam.
>> >>
>> >> I never said it was
>> >>
>> >> >PJ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
>> >because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
>> >blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here
>> >is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big
>> >bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed
>> >together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started
>> >adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now
>> >we're talking about a quart of milk and one of those
>> >medium size microwave bowls full of cereal.
>> >
>> >The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically
>> >after eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up
>> >to 200 or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I
>> >just don't understand why it is dropping instead of rising
>> >after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12
>> >hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a
>> >big plate of mixed vegetables?
>> >
>> >Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
>> >problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to
>> >eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can
>> >handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something
>> >to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products?
>> >
>> >Later
>>
>> What are the times after eating that those readings
>> represent? Are they one-hour, two-hour or something else.
>> Presuming you are T2, I'd suspect you're peaking very high
>> very quickly then plunging low.
>>
>> Try a test next time at 30 mins and 1 hr.
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs
>> to email.
>>
>I there, well about twelve hours had passed when I took the
>tests. I just awoke now and took my sugar. It is "101" That's
>really weird. I have eaten nothing in the last 5.5 hours
>while I slept, but it went up 23 points.
>
>I've lost about twenty pounds over the last few months also.
>Perhaps that is making things a little easier. I'm just glad
>it didn't drop to below zero while I slept. I could have woke
>up to find that the groundhog was bringing me my mail.
>
>Spater
That time difference explains it.
Two points. To see what a specific meal or food does to you,
test at one and two hours after eating, not half a day later.
And we call the "high" in the morning the "dawn effect",
where your body releases stored energy to get you going in
the morning.
Jennifer explains it better than I at
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm . Read
that, and put it into practice.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to
email.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
In article <2o7hmbF7shd7U1@uni-berlin.de>,
tedrosenberg@iname.com says...
> font problems - I am now assuming that you are posting "73"
> followed by an exclamation point, not "731"
>
> The reading STILL may be wrong, asnd should have been
> chcked. Also remember that a reading of 73, WITHOUT a major
> problem means between 59 and 91.
>
> going from 71 to 78 is NOT "rising". The readings are too
> close to tell
>
> Ted Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > I doubt seriously your reading is correct.
> >
> > Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and
> > see what you get
> >
> > My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken
> > immediately) were 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading
> > Actual is obviously in the 90-110 range
> >
> > Schuyler Colfax wrote:
> >
> >> In article <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>,
> >> aspen3 @freeuk.com says...
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> >>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> "Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> >>>>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
> >>>>>> saying they could harm children
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why you x poast this shit?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Because it may be important news to the readers of four
> >>>> diabetic newsgroups.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What is so important about it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> It is not off topic.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I never said it was
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> It is not spam.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I never said it was
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> PJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
> >> because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my
> >> blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here
> >> is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big
> >> bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all
> >> mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I
> >> started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it
> >> right. Now we're talking about a quart of milk and one of
> >> those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal.
> >>
> >> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically
> >> after eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone
> >> up to 200 or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78.
> >> I just don't understand why it is dropping instead of
> >> rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal
> >> about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten
> >> today is a big plate of mixed vegetables?
> >>
> >> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
> >> problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to
> >> eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I
> >> can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have
> >> something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg
> >> products?
> >>
> >> Later
> >
Well I had a huge bowl of cereal about 60 minutes ago. It was
Rice Krispies and generic brand Corn flakes. Again I used 5
packs of Splenda, 4 packs of Nutrasweet 1 pack of sweet and
low, along with about 2/3rds of a cup of real sugar. I'm going
to take my blood sugar now; again. I messed up the first strip
by not pushing it in far enough. so I have to stick it
again.Ill do my little finger this time so I don't get blood
all over the keyboard. :-)
And the reading issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Damn! 389!!!
Well that certainly seems more like I thought it should be.
Now I will wait and not take any pills to see how fast it goes
down on it's own.
So much for my cereal theory of controlling blood sugar! :-((
I t looks like the only thing that will really keep it
regulated is when I assume room temperature.
Beav
Sun, Aug-15-04, 05:17
"BJ in Texas" <bjtexas@hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:TXsSc.1687$U12.1179@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "Peanutjake" <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:2nv2j2F53ggkU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products,
> > saying they could
> harm children
> >
> > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG
> >
> > Associated Press
> >
> > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said
> > Wednesday they have
> banned several
> > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker
> > Kellogg, saying
> they could be harmful if
> > eaten regularly.
>
> It is likely political rather than content of the cereals.
> Has the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What
> contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly
> someplace
besides
> Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing facility in
> Demark?
BJ, not every decision in the world is political, or based on
the American view. Kellogg puts way too much crap in it's
"special brew" cereal, and the Danes don't like it. It's
simple really.
Beav
Alan
Sun, Aug-15-04, 05:17
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:25:15 +0100, Wood
<bhwiHELLODOLLY@dol.ie> wrote:
>>> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high
>>> levels of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz
>>> products as well!
>>>
>>>
>the real problem with kelloggs products is that they are
>shit, which also isn't in the article - try learning how
>to tolerate
The brand is irrelevant. It's the contents that matter.
Processed cereals.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to
email.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Alan
Sun, Aug-15-04, 05:17
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 19:05:26 -0500, SC
<thewisestone@charterinternet.com> wrote:
>So much for my cereal theory of controlling blood sugar!
It does. It keeps it high if you keep eating it:-)
Hold a little ceremony as you put all the cereals in your
cupboard in the garbage bin.
As a Scandinavian, you should be able to find a good
high-fibre whole grain muesli. Do not add sugar when eating
it, and eat it in the evening, not for breakfast. Try a
zero-carb breakfast instead, but test everything an hour after
you eat until you know what it does to you.
Not a half-day later.
Good luck.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to
email.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Schuyler C
Sun, Aug-15-04, 05:17
In article <MPG.1b8864c41c801dcd9896f6@news.charter.net>,
thewisestone@charterinternet.com says...
> In article <2o7hmbF7shd7U1@uni-berlin.de>,
> tedrosenberg@iname.com says...
> > font problems - I am now assuming that you are posting
> > "73" followed by an exclamation point, not "731"
> >
> > The reading STILL may be wrong, asnd should have been
> > chcked. Also remember that a reading of 73, WITHOUT a
> > major problem means between 59 and 91.
> >
> > going from 71 to 78 is NOT "rising". The readings are too
> > close to tell
> >
> > Ted Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > > I doubt seriously your reading is correct.
> > >
> > > Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings
> > > and see what you get
> > >
> > > My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken
> > > immediately) were 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading
> > > Actual is obviously in the 90-110 range
> > >
> > > Schuyler Colfax wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article
> > >> <ovnnh05nfs86dtq89noq8eo4ecl0u3dtag@4ax.com>, aspen3
> > >> @freeuk.com says...
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> > >>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> "Pete" <aspen3@freeuk.com> wrote in message
> > >>>> news:t9dlh01lot635fndpjrf0ik00iph7qi989@4ax.com...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake"
> > >>>>> <peanutjakeNO@usa.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg
> > >>>>>> products, saying they could harm children
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Why you x poast this shit?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Because it may be important news to the readers of
> > >>>> four diabetic newsgroups.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> What is so important about it?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> It is not off topic.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I never said it was
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> It is not spam.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I never said it was
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> PJ
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342
> > >> because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took
> > >> my blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd
> > >> here is that all week I have been eating nothing but
> > >> one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and
> > >> Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and
> > >> Nutrasweet. I started adding about a cup of sugar to
> > >> really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart of
> > >> milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full
> > >> of cereal.
> > >>
> > >> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically
> > >> after eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone
> > >> up to 200 or more. I took it just now and it is up to
> > >> 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping instead
> > >> of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened
> > >> cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have
> > >> eaten today is a big plate of mixed vegetables?
> > >>
> > >> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other
> > >> problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is
> > >> to eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think
> > >> I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have
> > >> something to do with the Denmark controversy over
> > >> Kellogg products?
> > >>
> > >> Later
> > >
>
> Well I had a huge bowl of cereal about 60 minutes ago. It
> was Rice Krispies and generic brand Corn flakes. Again I
> used 5 packs of Splenda, 4 packs of Nutrasweet 1 pack of
> sweet and low, along with about 2/3rds of a cup of real
> sugar. I'm going to take my blood sugar now; again. I messed
> up the first strip by not pushing it in far enough. so I
> have to stick it again.Ill do my little finger this time so
> I don't get blood all over the keyboard. :-)
>
> And the reading issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
> Damn! 389!!!
>
> Well that certainly seems more like I thought it should be.
> Now I will wait and not take any pills to see how fast it
> goes down on it's own.
>
> So much for my cereal theory of controlling blood sugar!
> :-(( I t looks like the only thing that will really keep it
> regulated is when I assume room temperature.
>
Well, I just finished playing two games of Chess with a buddy
of mine, I won both by the way. I haven't had anything to eat
or drink since that scary reading I got around 1800 or so.
2345 CDT
I took my blood sugar just now and to my amazement, it is
"99!" It has dropped nearly three hundred points in 5.5 hours
with no medication of any sort. My blood is flowing like
water! Very thin. I bled all over my clothes when I stuck my
middle finger on my left hand.
I'm going to take it one more time now to be sure-------------
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------------------------Ahhhhhhhhhh This time it said "106"
Now I have also lost about 25 pounds in the last three months.
Could that be a factor in my body suddenly seeming to be able
to handle sugar again?
In any case, I won't press my luck. I'm going back to just
using artificial sweeteners. I may be on to something good
here after all. It must something in certain cereals that
brings it down. I'm going to do a search on Copernic and see
what I find.
Anyway, I feel good! :-)2358 CDT
Spater
Alan
Sun, Aug-15-04, 05:17
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:57:58 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
<schuylercolfax@charterinternet.com> wrote:
>I took my blood sugar just now and to my amazement, it is
>"99!" It has dropped nearly three hundred points in 5.5 hours
>with no medication of any sort. My blood is flowing like
>water! Very thin. I bled all over my clothes when I stuck my
>middle finger on my left hand.
Why does that surprise you? It doesn't surprise me. it just
means that you are producing some insulin, just not enough and
at the wrong time.
Read Jennifer, start testing to a system instead of randomly,
and you will start to understand what is happening after you
eat and what you need to do to get a degree of control.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to
email.
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Andrea
Sun, Aug-15-04, 05:17
Earlier you said this:
>> And the reading issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
>> Damn! 389!!!
And now you say this:
> Could that be a factor in my body suddenly seeming to be
> able to handle sugar again?
What in the world makes you think your body is handling carbs
(not sugar) well? You don't want to get readings like 389!
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hatred, let me sow love.
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Wes Grolea
Mon, Aug-16-04, 05:17
SC wrote:
> Well I had a huge bowl of cereal about 60 minutes ago. It
> was Rice Krispies and generic brand Corn flakes. Again I
> used 5 packs of Splenda, 4 packs of Nutrasweet 1 pack of
> sweet and low, along with about 2/3rds of a cup of real
> sugar. I'm going to take my blood sugar now; again. I messed
> up the first strip by not pushing it in far enough. so I
> have to stick it again.Ill do my little finger this time so
> I don't get blood all over the keyboard. :-)
>
> And the reading issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
> Damn! 389!!!
Rice Krispies and corn flakes. Two grains with most of the
fiber removed and the remainder ground very fine to ensure
rapid absorption. Look at the label: total carbohydrates--how
many grams? Now subtract the _small_ amount of fiber. The rest
is starch and sugar, both of which will raise your blood
sugar. Look a little lower at the ingredients. Notice how many
different sources of sugar are added?
Then there's milk: 13 grams sugar per cup.
And 2/3 cup of plain sugar--by itself enough to add about 200
mg/dL to the blood sugar of a 200 pound diabetic male.
So you see a level of 389. Twelve hours from now, whatever
insulin you produce in response to that will have knocked it
down to normal, more likely below normal. But if you are a
type 2 diabetic, this will take more time and more insulin
than a "normal" person. During that time, the higher level of
BG is damaging your body. And some medical researchers believe
the higher level of insulin also causes damage.
I sound a bit harsh and blunt, but I am not trying to hurt
your feelings. You REALLY need to learn a little more about
metabolism in general and yours in particular. For the sake of
your health.
--
Wes Groleau
People would have more leisure time if it weren't for all the
leisure-time activities that use it up. -- Peg Bracken
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