thecarnivore.com and Dean Ornish

[Nancy LC]

This is a hilarious write up, definitely read it. http://www.theomnivore.com/Ornish.html

Here's a snippet:

Ornish: "When you eat a lot of meat, it takes a long time for it to make its way through your digestive tract. As it putrefies and decays, your breath smells bad, your sweat smells bad, and your bowels smell bad. Not very attractive. You may want to lose weight to attract people to you, but when they get too close, it becomes counterproductive."

Omnivore: It's anyone's guess as to how Ornish arrived at these utterly bizarre conclusions. As meat passes through the gastrointestinal tract it does not simply "putrefy" and "decay" like a pile of week-old garbage--it is being actively digested by gastric enzymes, with its constituent vitamins, minerals, trace elements and amino acids being broken down to fuel growth and repair in the body.

Maybe all the meat-eaters Ornish has encountered have been members of some bizarre cult that eschews washing or bathing, or maybe Ornish is simply high on his own bodily emissions. After all, diets that are high in whole grains and legumes--the very kind that Ornish espouses--are famous for their anti-social gastrointestinal effects. In fact, I'll bet good money that wherever Dean is right now, he's struggling to hold back a really nasty, crowd-scattering bolus of wind…

[Lessara]

Oh my gosh what Omnivore said is so true. In my opinion, no matter what you eat there are "negative" body reactions, in the way of smell as well as "positive" body reactions. If you are low fat, your hair loses its shine, your skin looks drier and older, You lose that "glow". You have much more gas due to carbs and guess what, the breath is bad too for plaque loves carbs. (All dieters should brush your teeth any ways). I notice low fat dieters have a "sweet" smell. If sweet smell is more pleasant I can see the attention drawn to low carbing.

If you are low carbs, you might have breath problems but easily resolved (for me that is) by drinking more water than 2 liters and Brushing your teeth at least once a day. You might break out in zits when you start low carbing as your body purges you of toxins but it does clear up for most of us.

But we won't talk about the health benifits will we? You bet!
Low carb does: lower cholesterol, reduces asthma, lower allergies, makes your skin, hair, nails strong and glow, reduces anxiety and some ADD symptoms, lowers gas and intestinal pains, increase muscles (alittle), and suppresses an overactive appitite. (Not everyone may have these but I am only showing what its done for me) :cool:

Thanks for the article, Nancy :)

[TheCaveman]

Ornish: "When you eat a lot of meat, it takes a long time for it to make its way through your digestive tract. As it putrefies and decays, your breath smells bad, your sweat smells bad, and your bowels smell bad. Not very attractive. You may want to lose weight to attract people to you, but when they get too close, it becomes counterproductive."

Omnivore: It's anyone's guess as to how Ornish arrived at these utterly bizarre conclusions.

Shoot, this depresses me that Omnivore doesn't know where this comes from. It's stock Natural Hygiene. The poopphobic people. If you read some of Herbert Shelton's and John Harvey Kellogg's stuff, it's easy to see how messed up this whole theory is, and how weird these two gents were. It is, however, where we get most of our misguided nonsense about fiber and cleansing and whatnot.

They have good ideas to offer, but most of the theory was developed in a pre-medical age, and the whole putrefication thing has been disproven, about 70 years ago.

[cs_carver]

I start dating a guy who cares much about how my poop smells, I'm out of that relationship faster than Carb Smart chocolate ice cream can make its ill effects known!

Admittedly, herbivore trailings are easier on the olfactory system than carnivore, having cleaned up after both. I have seen recommendations to consider vegetarianism for the bedridden who have to have help. Easier on the support staff.

For today, that's not the case around here.

[Nancy LC]

This just about killed me:

In fact, I'll bet good money that wherever Dean is right now, he's struggling to hold back a really nasty, crowd-scattering bolus of wind…

[Iwilldoit]

:lol:Yes indeed, one of the things I gladly said goodbye to now that I don't eat grain or sugar!