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Arvo Jenni
Wed, Jul-07-04, 19:19
I want to start taking megadoses but where I live Vitamin C is
quite expensive. I was wondering if there is a way to make it
at home, or use an existing Vitamin C tablet and somehow get
it to "breed" more Vitamin C.
I realize this sounds far-fetched but I was just wondering.
markd
Wed, Jul-07-04, 19:19
If you have the knowledge and equipment, yes, but it is not
practical or price effective. The formula is:
ascorbic acid C[6]H[8]O[6]
Have a look at the info the Linus Pauling Institute has on vit
c:
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/-
index.html
They have an excellent review of the scientific research done
on it with regard to nutrition and health, you might know the
person after whom the institute was named. In short, intake of
more then 500 mg cann't be shown to be beneficial,ie. the
benefits max out around that level. In part the max level is
because the cells and blood become saturated and you piss the
rest away, breaking the 500 mg into mealtime doses tends to
keep saturation high. If you really want to get it cheap, go
to the nearest university town and find a lab supply company
who can provide it to you by the pound in powder form at a
very small per unit price compared to buying it as pills.
>I want to start taking megadoses but where I live Vitamin C
>is quite expensive. I was wondering if there is a way to make
>it at home, or use an existing Vitamin C tablet and somehow
>get it to "breed" more Vitamin C.
>
>I realize this sounds far-fetched but I was just wondering.
sstamp
Thu, Jul-08-04, 19:17
markd@toad-net.com wrote:
> In short, intake of more then 500 mg cann't be shown to be
> beneficial,ie. the benefits max out around that level.
Depends on how it is introduced to the body, if you eat it
that is the functional limit. If it is injected there are
benefits to mega-doses.
--
Cliff Stamp sstamp@physics.mun.ca
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~sstamp/
The one unforgivable sin, the offence against one's own
integrity, is to accept anything at all simply on authority
-- Maureen Johnson Long
Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm. --
Publilius Syrus
Arvo Jenni
Thu, Jul-08-04, 19:17
Thanks Mark. Actually, the maxing out thing is hotly disputed
by many doctors such as Dr. Matthias Rath and Ian Brighthope
and others. I find it ironic that Pauling's institute is
contradicting him. Anyway, I will try your suggestion about a
lab supply company. But if I buy it by the pound, how do I
know how many milligrams I'm getting in, say, a teaspoon?
Phil Scott
Thu, Jul-08-04, 19:17
"Arvo Jennings" <arvo@goggo.com.au> wrote in message
news:d2587fbe.0407071123.522faa41@posting.google.com...
> I want to start taking megadoses but where I live Vitamin C
is quite
> expensive. I was wondering if there is a way to make it at
home, or
> use an existing Vitamin C tablet and somehow get it to
"breed" more
> Vitamin C.
>
> I realize this sounds far-fetched but I was just wondering.
Yes. You can breed the tablets. The setting is vital hower.
You need to put the tablets on a soft dimly lit surface..
covered over for privacy... have some nice music playing...
then in a few days you look...and if there are no more
tablets or one tablet has not moved to a position on top of
the other...try different music.
Or you can call Steve... www.herbaladvantage.com he is
rescourceful and may know a way to get bulk C to you... there
are hundreds of other outfits you can find on the web that
might be able to depending what the laws are in your
country... the pharmaceutical company's are trying to
monopolize vitamins, allowing only tiny quantities to be sold
over the counter. You may have to get creative.
Phil Scott
Thepuppetm
Fri, Jul-09-04, 19:18
markd@toad-net.com wrote in message
news:<40ec818f$0$21383$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com>...
> If you have the knowledge and equipment, yes, but it is not
> practical or price effective. The formula is:
>
> ascorbic acid C[6]H[8]O[6]
>
> Have a look at the info the Linus Pauling Institute has
> on vit c:
>
> http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/in-
> dex.html
>
> They have an excellent review of the scientific research
> done on it with regard to nutrition and health, you might
> know the person after whom the institute was named. In
> short, intake of more then 500 mg cann't be shown to be
> beneficial,ie. the benefits max out around that level. In
> part the max level is because the cells and blood become
> saturated and you piss the rest away, breaking the 500 mg
> into mealtime doses tends to keep saturation high. If you
> really want to get it cheap, go to the nearest
http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp?pg=vitc_fan
http://www.lulu.com/ascorbate
markd
Fri, Jul-09-04, 19:18
I read the pages below, it doesn't change what was on the
pauling site. The pauling site uses population and other
intervention research to show where benefits max out. The
below speak of "might" etc. as a hypothetical potential, could
be, but the research is not there. This use of max benefit is
different then the " max which can be achieved for "transient"
blood levels. In every biochem reaction there is a minimum,
optimin, and max level of activity. Beyond the max there is no
added benefit and sometimes the benefits start to decline.
Those who advocate mega doses must show they work by research,
not therotical potential.
>http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp?pg=vitc_fan
>http://www.lulu.com/ascorbate
markd
Fri, Jul-09-04, 19:18
There are two uses of max. One is how much can the body have
based on how much intake. The second is the max level of
intake that produces max results. In biochem activity there is
a max level beyond which no added benefit occurs, that is what
the research surveyed at the pauling site reflects in actual
intervention and population research. If there are other such
research showing other max levels I would be intrested to see
them, web sources please. Pauling was first a scientist and he
would want such research based basis for establishing max
levels of benefit. I have no idea what metric weights are for
teaspoon etc., I'm sure it can be found somewhere on the net.
>Thanks Mark. Actually, the maxing out thing is hotly disputed
>by many doctors such as Dr. Matthias Rath and Ian Brighthope
>and others. I find it ironic that Pauling's institute is
>contradicting him. Anyway, I will try your suggestion about a
>lab supply company. But if I buy it by the pound, how do I
>know how many milligrams I'm getting in, say, a teaspoon?
markd
Fri, Jul-09-04, 19:18
I have no doubt this is the case, the body can remove x
amount of anything, introducing it at a level greater then
that limit will cause blood levels to go up. The real
question is what is the max level at which benefits stop
occuring, and that is an emperical question answered by
intervention and population research.
>Depends on how it is introduced to the body, if you eat it
>that is the functional limit. If it is injected there are
>benefits to mega-doses.
>
>--
> Cliff Stamp sstamp@physics.mun.ca
> http://www.physics.mun.ca/~sstamp/
>
> The one unforgivable sin, the offence against one's own
> integrity, is to accept anything at all simply on authority
> -- Maureen Johnson Long
>
> Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm. --
> Publilius Syrus
Phil Scott
Sat, Jul-10-04, 06:16
"ThePuppetMaster" <tim__64@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> markd@toad-net.com wrote in message
news:<40ec818f$0$21383$4d5ecec7@reader.city-net.com>...
> > If you have the knowledge and equipment, yes, but it is
not practical or
> > price effective. The formula is:
> >
> > ascorbic acid C[6]H[8]O[6]
> >
> > Have a look at the info the Linus Pauling Institute has on
vit c:
> >
> >
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/-
index.html
> >
> > They have an excellent review of the scientific research
done on it with
> > regard to nutrition and health, you might know the person
after whom the
> > institute was named. In short, intake of more then 500 mg
cann't be shown
> > to be beneficial,ie. the benefits max out around that
level. In part the
> > max level is because the cells and blood become saturated
and you piss the
> > rest away, breaking the 500 mg into mealtime doses tends
to keep
> > saturation high. If you really want to get it cheap, go
to the nearest
I took Paulings "heart technology' formula for about 6
months and my stamina on job sites rose dramatically, and
chest pain disspeared entirely...its been a couple of
years now. that formula included massive doses of C and
some other things such as Co Q 10.
Sorry if that offends anyone... but it worked like gang
busters for me.
Phil Scott
>
>
>
> http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp?pg=vitc_fan
> http://www.lulu.com/ascorbate
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