DREAMFIELD'S PASTA!

[tashinpa]

Weight Management
Hi folks,

This just in from my favorite store Wegmans....

I'd be interested in your opinion, because of the things I miss most it's definitely pasta!!! I am no crack with the glycemic stuff and 42g of carbs sounds like a boat load.....

Let me know what you think.

Tash

Pasta to Dream About
Dreamfields, new in our diet food section, hopes to bring dieters back to pasta. It's certainly not low in carbohydrates with 42 grams per serving. Yet it claims "5 grams digestible carbs." What does that mean?
Net Carbs versus Glycemic Index
Whereas 'net carbs' are the result of a simple calculation subtracting fiber from total carbs, Dreamfields was tested in real people to see how quickly blood sugar rises (called glycemic index). Today's popular diets promise that a slower rise in blood sugar will reduce insulin production, hunger and weight gain. Though the calorie level is similar, a serving of Dreamfields raises blood sugar only 25% as much as a similar serving of regular pasta. And that makes it a fine choice for someone seeking better carbs as a way to eat less at this meal and the next. Yet, I caution anyone who takes insulin to talk with their diabetes educator before using this product
Great Pasta Taste
Dreamfields has a classic pasta taste. Other low carb pastas are rich in soy protein, have a gummy texture and leave an aftertaste. The fiber coating slows down digestion while making Dreamfields slide around on your fork. Try it and let me know what you think!

[CarolynC]

I bought a box of Dreamfield's Penne Rigate last night as Super Wal-Mart. I saw the 5 g digestible carbs on the front of the box, it looked very much like "real" pasta, and it was only $1.98. So, I put it in the cart without even reading the rest of the box.

Now, I see each serving has 190 calories with 42 g total carbohydrate, 4 g fiber, and 1 g sugar. The "Carb Facts" on the box says there are 37 g of "Controlled Carbs," leaving a "Net digestible Carbs" of 5 g per serving. But, what are these controlled carbs? The box says it's made of "quality durum wheat semolina, but with only 5 grams of digestible carbohydrates". Why would wheat semonlina be low carb and also low fiber? Sorbitol is an ingredient, but it's way down on the list, third item from the bottom. So, I doubt that a serving has 33 g of sugar alcohols. The box also says that the product "has been clinically tested to establish disgestible carbohydrate levels".

What's going on here is a mystery to me--although if the digestible carbs count is true, it would certainly be great.

I'm going to give this a try with a half serving or so. I'm a type 2 diabetic who controls my blood sugar by low carbing and exercise alone. I should be able to tell roughly how many digestible carbs are really in this by how much it raises my blood sugar 1, 2, and 3 hours after eating. It's worth a try.

[CarolynC]

I found this link to the Dreamfields's website whcih explains why the pasta is low in digestible carbs. I hope this is not too good to be true.

http://www.dreamfieldsfoods.com/healthyfaqs.html

[CarolynC]

I've now tried the Dreamfield's pasta twice. it takes great--just like regular pasta.

I'm a type 2 diabetic and I've taken my blood sugar at 30 minute intervals after eating the pasta. It's effect on my blood sugar is low. Within two hours after eating Dreamfield's pasta, my blood sugar is back to what it was before eating. At least for me, my blood sugar readings indicate that the "5 grams digestible carbs" listed on the Dreamfield's box is accurate.

[tashinpa]

neato. maybe now I have to try this as well....

[rosethorns]

Carolyn C thanks for your research with the Dreamfields product. I went looking last nite on there website and couldn't find anything. It's made by Dakota Growers pasta co. I'm severe Hypoglycemic and have not had real pasta in 15 years . But I tried atkins and it was so gross. I think I'm going to try this.


Ess

[rosethorns]

Great website Carolyn. I tried to find this website for 2 hours last nite . Thanks

[sandylevit]

tried it last night. It tasted like real pasta! I hope the claims
are true!

got it in kroger

sandy

[SCOTTSDALE]

I ordered it on line this weekend, and I can hardly wait to get it. Can anyone say vodka noodles.

[springdale]

I have gestational diabetes and my hubby is a low carber. This pasta is great and did not raise my blood sugar either. Early in my pregnancy I ate regular pasta (1/2 cup of it--which is not much) and my blood sugar was 147 after 2 hours. I ate twice that much of the Dreamfield's pasta and my blood sugar was 97 after 2 hours. So, I don't know how they figure the net carbs but I'm taking their word for it. I figure it is safe to feed to my husband as well.

Rhonda

[kywoman]

Thanks so much for the testing reports on this product. I've tried both the macaroni & spaghetti. I haven't experienced any problems(no weight gain, bloating ect) w/them, but your blood sugar testing is the real test! I've seen reviews on other forums & only one person reported a substantial rise in their testing, however they didn't say what kind of sauce they used. I made a lemon cream sauce last nite and it was awsome!

[Angel66668]

Just bought some at Kroger, can't wait to try it!

[nomosketti]

VEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY yummy :D but I need to limit this to a once in a while treat. I can't keep myself to a single portion. :blush:

[Marie63]

Wow..ultra yum!!! Tried the spaghetti last night and it tasted just like regular pasta. Felt as though I was cheating big time. I was really surprised when I stepped on the scale this morining and my weight was down by at least a pound! I don't know how much I ate of it but I was pretty full.

[Angel66668]

Yes this stuff is GREAT! VERY YUMMY!

[RCG]

This stuff is better than the "real" pasta out there. I too was wary about the 5g net carb, but after a large plate of it, I experienced no water weight gain as I normally would after a carb binge :). Two thumbs way up!

[CarolynC]

Here's a webpage about Dreamfields past from Rick Mendosa's diabetes site. It also has minimal effect on his blood sugar. Mendosa interviewed the inventor of the process that's used to produce the pasta.

Mendosa page on Dreamfields (http://www.mendosa.com/dreamfields_pasta.htm)

[BettyR]

We had the spaghetti for supper tonight. This stuff is awsome!!

[scott123]

What I would like to see is the number of "digestible carbs" in regular pasta. I think they might be playing on the misconception that every carb we eat is digested. We aren't an automobile with a gas tank. "Digested carbs" are always going to be a fraction of what we consume. It doesn't matter what food it is. It's how our bodies work.

It's common knowledge that fiber (soluble or otherwise) gets in the way of digestion. It's why you shouldn't take fiber with vitamins. But is there any difference between eating this pasta and eating regular pasta with a soluble fiber sauce?

I would love it if this truly were low carb, but at the moment, it's looking a lot like a shell game to me.

[silverfang]

I wrote dream feilds about a lasagna noodle but they said they aren't planning one at this time. too bad. but they ARE working on rice and potato products!!! I believe their claims about carbs, this pasta doesn't kick me out of ketosis. nor does it make me tired like real pasta.

[CarolynC]

It's common knowledge that fiber (soluble or otherwise) gets in the way of digestion. It's why you shouldn't take fiber with vitamins. But is there any difference between eating this pasta and eating regular pasta with a soluble fiber sauce?
As a diabetic, I can tell you that there's a great difference between eating regular pasta and eating Dreamfield's pasta. Regular pasta shoots my blood sugar up very fast and high. The Dreamfield's pasta does not.

[scott123]

As a diabetic, I can tell you that there's a great difference between eating regular pasta and eating Dreamfield's pasta. Regular pasta shoots my blood sugar up very fast and high. The Dreamfield's pasta does not.

There are also some high fiber legumes that you can eat that won't spike your blood sugar but that doesn't make them low carb.

I don't think anyone is arguing that dreamfields isn't low on the glycemic index. I have seen enough proof to assure me that the impact on blood sugar is minimal. Glycemic impact and metabolic impact are two different animals. It is possible for a food to have little impact on blood sugar and yet still be high carb.

I have heard of quite a few people that are consuming dreamfields and losing weight. I'm happy for them, but at the same time, I need a little more proof than that.

[Ziggy13]

Silverfang.....I saw the lazagna noodles at my local Walmart last week. Wonder why they didn't tell you that??

[amazonann7]

The elbow pasta and a little bit of added cheese. I'm a college student so it makes me really happy to eat mac and cheese again. So good.

[ItsTheWooo]

There are also some high fiber legumes that you can eat that won't spike your blood sugar but that doesn't make them low carb.

I don't think anyone is arguing that dreamfields isn't low on the glycemic index. I have seen enough proof to assure me that the impact on blood sugar is minimal. Glycemic impact and metabolic impact are two different animals. It is possible for a food to have little impact on blood sugar and yet still be high carb.

I have heard of quite a few people that are consuming dreamfields and losing weight. I'm happy for them, but at the same time, I need a little more proof than that.

Isn't the whole reason carbs need to be restricted in the first place because of what they do to blood sugar & hormones? If a carb has no or very little impact on blood sugar, doesn't that also translate into low metabolic impact?

An avocado is "high carb" too. But you know 75% of the carbs in avocado have no impact on blood sugar (actually they inhibit insulin secretion so they are almost "negative carb" in a sense), so in reality avocado is a very low carb food.

I'm convinced by the diabetic trials. If their blood sugar isn't going up, that means they aren't recieving starch energy from the product. No starch energy = no insulin spike, no calories, and no metabolic impact.

What I am worried about is how they managed to make the starch undigestable. That could have negative health implications.

[potatofree]

I live in North Dakota, where it's MADE... and I can't get it yet. <pout>

[scott123]

Isn't the whole reason carbs need to be restricted in the first place because of what they do to blood sugar & hormones? If a carb has no or very little impact on blood sugar, doesn't that also translate into low metabolic impact?

Not according to Atkins. Ketosis is contingent on total carb consumption, not the rate at which the carbs are consumed. Blood sugar impact is important from a craving perspective but not from a perspective of ketosis.


I'm convinced by the diabetic trials. If their blood sugar isn't going up, that means they aren't recieving starch energy from the product. No starch energy = no insulin spike, no calories, and no metabolic impact.

No, that's not true. They are receiving starch energy, it's just spread out over a longer period of time, with less impact on blood sugar. Carbohydrates absorbed over, say, an 8 hour period, with little or no impact on blood sugar, are still absorbed and still count negatively towards ketosis.

Atkins is not a low glycemic diet. Dr. Atkins writes extensively about this in DANDR. The glycemix index is a helpful for tool for controlling cravings but there are low glycemic foods that impact ketosis adversely and should be avoided. The bottom line for ketosis is carbs, not glycemic impact.

[ItsTheWooo]

Not according to Atkins. Ketosis is contingent on total carb consumption, not the rate at which the carbs are consumed. Blood sugar impact is important from a craving perspective but not from a perspective of ketosis.

Yes, the efficacy of your LC diet depends on total sugar entering the blood regardless of time taken.

You are assuming these products work like sugar alcohols (meaning they are reduced sugar & over a long period of time), when diabetic tests have shown this not to be true. There is a blood glucose rise congruent with 5 carbs, and then after 2 or 3 hours the BG is back to pre-prandial levels. If it worked like sugar alcohols, the BG would keep going up and up until all the sugar energy was digested. Diabetic tests of high GL sugar alcohols show this to be true. The BG goes up and up and up... this is not what happens with dreamfields pasta. Quite simply no sugar is entering the blood other than the advertised 5 grms regardless of time period examined.

It seems to me there is something special about what they do to this starch that really makes it non-digestable.

No, that's not true. They are receiving starch energy, it's just spread out over a longer period of time, with less impact on blood sugar. Carbohydrates absorbed over, say, an 8 hour period, with little or no impact on blood sugar, are still absorbed and still count negatively towards ketosis.

Atkins is not a low glycemic diet. Dr. Atkins writes extensively about this in DANDR. The glycemix index is a helpful for tool for controlling cravings but there are low glycemic foods that impact ketosis adversely and should be avoided. The bottom line for ketosis is carbs, not glycemic impact.
Nothing I've read shows that the dreamfields pasta raises BG over a longer period of time. As I said before, tests show there is a 5 grm BG rise and then BG drops to as it was before eating a few hours later. If you have evidence to the contrary I would be really interested in seeing it :).

[CarolynC]

Nothing I've read shows that the dreamfields pasta raises BG over a longer period of time. As I said before, tests show there is a 5 grm BG rise and then BG drops to as it was before eating a few hours later.
That is definitely my personal experience. I've monitored my blood sugar at 30 minute intervals for 4 hours after eating the pasta. My blood sugar is back down to pre-pasta levels within 2 hours and it stays there. Also, the initial rise is consistent with eating about 5 g carbs.

In addition, the pasta does not knock me out of ketosis (I even bought ketosticks just to check this). Eating a 2 oz serving of regular pasta would have given me a large blood sugar rise and would have knocked me out of ketosis.

Plus, in the past two weeks I have eaten 2 oz servings of the Dreamfields pasta 4 times. During this same time period, I have lost 3 pounds, which is a lot for me. At least for me, the Dreamfields pasta is behaving as if I have ingested primarily non-digestible fiber. (And it has given me no digestive tract upset of any kind.)

[scott123]

Nothing I've read shows that the dreamfields pasta raises BG over a longer period of time. As I said before, tests show there is a 5 grm BG rise and then BG drops to as it was before eating a few hours later. If you have evidence to the contrary I would be really interested in seeing it :).

So are you telling me that for very low glycemic foods, once 3 hours have passed, digestion just stops? That a BG reduced to pre-prandial levels is proof that a food has simply ceased digesting?

I haven't seen anyone take readings past 3 hours because the next meal is usually consumed by that time. Also, won't BG be affected by not eating for 4 and 5 hours straight?

I have no evidence to the contrary, because, being a low glycemic food, this pasta acts accordingly. Just because I can't show you evidence of starches being digested 5 or 6 hours past eating, it doesn't mean that it's not occuring, though.

Glycemic impact is not irrefutable proof of non digestion.

[silverfang]

Well if BG isn't proof enough for you, think about this. I ate 4 servings of this pasta yesterday, in one meal and checked keto sticks every hour after the meal (4 p.m.) until midnight. there was no change in my ketosis level. period. with regular pasta it would have kicked me out of ketosis after 1 serving.

[barefoot51]

I think of this issue using the analogy of throughput vs. bandwidth.

Throughput is a measure of total data transferred - i.e., ECC in this analogy. Bandwidth is the rate of transfer over time, absorption rate, and while can't be measured exactly, could be inferred from glycemic index.

It's my understanding that insulin is released when our blood sugar increases above a certain threshold, telling our insulin receptors to store fat. So, if I eat 50g carbs, and it's all absorbed immediately no matter what food choice I eat, then the blood sugar spike and insulin production is the same for any food choice with a like carb content.

However, the key to me is absorption over time. Consider one of highest glycemic index foods (and I use the term "food" liberally here ), sugar. Using glycemic index theory, consuming 100g ECC would be all absorbed almost immediately, creating quite an insulin release.

However, an equivalent 100g ECC of a a lower glycemic index food, say, whole milk, would have much slower absorption over time because of the fat content, limiting the blood sugar impact at any point in time and triggering a lesser insulin release.

This all hinges upon two points: 1) blood sugar threshold for insulin release, and 2) carbs absorbed over time have a lesser impact on blood sugar at any given point in time than carbs absorbed almost immediately.

It seems to me that all carbs are NOT created equal in that regard - and that both total throughput (ECC) and bandwidth (absorption rate as indicated by glycemic index) are useful tools.

Barefoot - don't remember what my original point was!

[ItsTheWooo]

So are you telling me that for very low glycemic foods, once 3 hours have passed, digestion just stops?

I am suggesting that the 33 grams of carbs in this product act like fiber - the body lacks the necessary enzymes to deal with them and they pass through unassimilated.

That a BG reduced to pre-prandial levels is proof that a food has simply ceased digesting?

Well, if they had only eaten 1 or 2 grams of very low glycemic food, it may produce but a blip on their meters and yes, it wouldn't be strong enough evidence to show that gram per gram dreamfields pasta has virtually no sugar energy and therefore no metabolic impact.

However, 40+ grams of digestable carbohydrate, regardless of glycemic index and type, should produce a noticable glycemic load with half hour tests. This is what the sugar alcohol tests show... a typical serving (15 grams) yeilds noticable net glycemic/metabolic impact. Even fructose (a sugar so low GI that it is considered "safe" for diabetics) would produce a glycemic load half that of a serving of white bread at a consumption level of 40 grams.

This is not what the dreamfield pasta tests show - and let it be known that the amount of carbohydrate consumed in a serving of pasta is usually twice as large as the amount eaten in a typical LC candy bar (20 grms maltitol vs 40 grams of this "special" starch).

This leads to one obvious conclusion. The starch in dreamfields pasta contains little to no assimilatable/useable energy, so that it produces an extremely low glycemic load/metabolic impact, even at very high consumption levels. You can think of this type of starch as xylitol or erythritol if it helps your understanding. These sugar alcohols contain so little sugar energy (like .02 gram), that their GI is near 0. So little of it is used as energy, that even when they are being consumed in high carbohydrate quantities (20 grams in a candy bar for example) the glycemic load isstill negligable as your body isn't getting any sugar from them. They pass through almost completely unabsorbed.

It seems to me that the processing dreamfields does to its starch makes it unassimilatable, like xylitol and erythritol. There is really no other explanation other than this -- dreamfields pasta acts like fiber. It would be a miracle of science if they were able to make a digestable starch product break down so slowly to the point where it has no obserable impact on blood glucose after 3 hours, even at 40 gram consumption levels. Frankly, it would be impossible.

I haven't seen anyone take readings past 3 hours because the next meal is usually consumed by that time. Also, won't BG be affected by not eating for 4 and 5 hours straight?

I have no evidence to the contrary, because, being a low glycemic food, this pasta acts accordingly. Just because I can't show you evidence of starches being digested 5 or 6 hours past eating, it doesn't mean that it's not occuring, though.

Glycemic impact is not irrefutable proof of non digestion.
You are absolutely right, just because we haven't seen the evidence doesn't mean the evidence doesn't exist.

But, based on what I know about the way the body works and sugar metabolism, I am sufficiently convinced by these tests. Even the lowest glycemic index sugar will yeild a considerably hefty glycemic load when eaten the quantities of 40 and 80 grams (1 or 2 cups of dreamfields pasta, which many diabetics have consumed and reported no blip on the meters 3 hours post-prandial).

So one of two things must be going on. Either gram for gram dreamfields pasta has a glycemic idex signifigantly lower than any known completely digestable food on earth which makes it unable to be measured by standard tests, or the body isn't able to break it down into sugar and it is acting as fiber. Personally, I think the latter is much more likely. But hey, I do recognize the possibility that anything is possible and it is your choice to believe what you want.

[barefoot51]

ItsTheWooo...


I want to make sure I understand you correctly.

Are you saying that the human digestive system "sees" the Dreamfields pasta in the same way it "sees" a bowl of flax meal? - in essence, just one big 'ole serving of undigestible fiber? Not to be too indelicate, but isn't this noticeable when exiting the body (produce the same effects as a large serviing of fiber?)

If this is all true and yet the product tastes like and has the texture of regular pasta, it may be time to call my stockbroker - ( I wonder if it's even a publicly traded company?)

Barefoot

[BlitzedAng]

My children had walked in the kitchen when I was making it for them and said," Mommys making sketti?" I just had to snicker. They really enjoyed it.It was at the local grocery, Winn Dixie.

[ItsTheWooo]

ItsTheWooo...


I want to make sure I understand you correctly.

Are you saying that the human digestive system "sees" the Dreamfields pasta in the same way it "sees" a bowl of flax meal? - in essence, just one big 'ole serving of undigestible fiber? Not to be too indelicate, but isn't this noticeable when exiting the body (produce the same effects as a large serviing of fiber?)

Well, that's the only conclusion I can come to based on the evidence given - the body regards the dreamfields treated starch as it would cellulose or erythritol. Since there is such a high volume of it (40 grams), I imagine it would work like fiber does too (in that it would increase stool volume).
If this is all true and yet the product tastes like and has the texture of regular pasta, it may be time to call my stockbroker - ( I wonder if it's even a publicly traded company?)

Barefoot
I was thinking the same thing ;)

If they can do this with rice and other starches, and if there are no undesirable side effects they are going to be huge.

[Angel66668]

This stuf is soooo good. I can't get enough!

[Jopalis]

I am near Valencia, CA. Tried Albertsons, Kroger/Ralphs, Vons/Pavilions, etc. No one has it. I am dying to try it!!! Please help. Thanks. :(

[Angel66668]

you can buy it online, see the link earlier in this thread. Also it will tell you what stores you can find it at.

[potatofree]

I bought some today. it tastes so much better than the low-carb pastas I've tried before! I was at the point of re-introducing limited amounts of grains again, so this fits just fine in my plan. Admittedly, I'm hedging my bets that it ISN'T exactly as promised, but hey... it's made in North Dakota ;)

[BBQman]

This stuff is amazing. It tastes just like the real thing. After potatoes and rice I hope they do corn!!! (just kidding)

Chris

[blue4lemon]

Is it with the regular pasta? Or in the health section? I'd like to try this because I like to cook for my boyfriend, stuff we will both eat, and we have had enough burgers. I miss making fettucine alfredo!

[Jopalis]

:D I found it and made some of the linguine tonight! I posted this elsewhere but anyway, I made it with some homemade pesto, diced fresh tomatoes, garlic and some Trader Joe's yummy Spicy Italian chicken sausage. I felt like I was cheating big time!! It's fabulous. I won't buy any of that other stuff again!! Made it for my family too and they couldn't tell the difference! Thanks so much for the info! Yummmmmmm

[SpecialK]

I found it today at super Wal-Mart. They were in the same section as all the other pastas. The Wal-Mart I shop at has put all their Lo-Carb foods in the same sections as the regular foods. Therefore I found the Heinz 1 carb ketchup right next to the regular Heinz ketchup. Once I get used to this it will make shopping a lot easier. Right now I keep trying to find the LC section. Can't wait to try the pasta's. Blessings, Karen

[Bandito]

So does this mean that it has less calories than stated on the box????

[cheez whiz]

Does Trader Joe's have this pasta???

[peapod]

oh i found this at super walmart today.. like $1.60 a box or something.. I was looking at the carb options alfredo but i decided not to get it (even though it is DELICIOUS.. last time it ruined in the fridge).. i FORGOT i picked up the pasta!

im just going to try it with butter for now :yum:

also wanted tot hank you all for starting this thread.. ive told my mother about it who has diabetes and about the sugar testing.. thank you for taking the time to do that as well

[BlitzedAng]

My children miss goolosh. Not sure how to spell it,lol. But anyhoo, I have this pasta in the cupboard and plan to make it for them on the weekend. I myself use to LOVE pasta. But for some odd reason it doesn't appeal to me AT ALL now. Go figure.

[scott123]

If anyone is interested... I up 4 lbs since last week, averaging a serving a day of dreamfields pasta. I've been keeping my carb consumption at the same level as previous weeks. This marks my first weight gain since beginning this WOE.

Could the response have been a psychosomatic response to my skeptism? Perhaps. Regardless, 4 lbs. is 4 lbs. anyway you cut it/slice it/twirl it around your fork :)

[xvxwickdxv]

I also found the pasta at my Super Walmart. We had it last night for dinner and I couldn't tell the difference between this and regular pasta. It's very good! I am in OWL btw.

I have a pasta addiction (I must have been Italian in another lifetime) and I will save this as a "treat" a couple times a month. It would be very easy for me to revert to old eating habits if I had pasta more than 2 x a month.

Weight wise, I was 142 yesterday and am back to 141 today, so it did not impact me weight wise, nor did it knock me out of ketosis.

I still don't understand the digestible carb thing though.

Wickd

[SpecialK]

I just had a little of this with my lunch. Just buttered and sprinkled with garlic salt (always loved pasta this way). WOW! Was this good. I gave my daughter a taste and she asked me if I accidently grabbed the wrong box and made the regular high carb kind :) I found that a single serving was plenty and almost didn't finish it all. All I had with it was a bratwurst with out bun or any fixings.

[Jopalis]

I also use the pasta as a treat so I don't get into carbing as much as before. I have not had any negative impact. Did you post your journals for the week? Are you watching your salt? Also, too many calories do impact some even if low carb. Sometimes carbing, even if legal makes you eat more. I don't know---Puzzling. I try to be conscious of my overall calories (portions), fats and salt. I made the mistake when I first switched to Atkins of using it carte blanche. Too many convenience foods, too much protein at a sitting, etc. Now I try to find a happy medium. Maybe you could get some feedback from your journals? :eek:

[Jopalis]

PeaPod, It is super easy to make your own Alfredo sauce. Butter, cream and grated cheese! You could make a small quantity probably cheaper and not have to worry about the jar spoiling. Buon Appetito!!

[Jopalis]

CheezWhiz--Not at Trader Joes here. I got it at Vons/Pavilions. The rep told me Kroger/Ralph, Albertsons, etc. will have it in about 2 wks. Some find it at a Super Walmart. I know I couldn't wait to get it too. I made it with homemade pesto and some Trader Joe's spicy Italian chicken sausages----Yummmmmy!!!!

[potatofree]

As far as it's real "absorbed" carbs and all... there is no way to put it delicately, but I'll try... anybody notice a greatly increased, um..."volume of output" after eating it? :blush: You have to realize SOMETHING isn't getting completely broken down and used when it makes such a noticable difference....(we're talking coming out of the bathroom a few pounds lighter here...;) )

[BlitzedAng]

Yesterday I posted that it didn't appeal to me as pasta use to. In other words I don't "crave" like I use to. But I did enjoy it with the children.I only use a small amount myself. Fely full right away. All the meat on top and the green beans kept me from eating too much.While it was very good and all, I don't plan to eat this more than once a month or less.Was odd after not having pasta since October of 2003.(lol)
ANgel

[dixiemamma]

As far as it's real "absorbed" carbs and all... there is no way to put it delicately, but I'll try... anybody notice a greatly increased, um..."volume of output" after eating it? :blush: You have to realize SOMETHING isn't getting completely broken down and used when it makes such a noticable difference....(we're talking coming out of the bathroom a few pounds lighter here...;) )


ROTF LMAO! Well that does it for me, you have proved the "digestable" carb mystery!!!... I gotta get some now! LOL LOL LOL

[lilgizmo]

This so good...my family even ate it and loved it...the best thing is that 2 hr postprandial blood glucose levels were back to where they started! I have lost 2# in the last 3 days of eating it. (I don't go hog wild...just 1 cup of the spaghetti with meat sauce, and I am very careful about what I eat up to that point in the day) Guess I'll be making some homemade mac n cheese tomorrow!!

[dixiemamma]

OMG... I LIVE for homwmade mac and chees. I still have a box of the regular kind that i make up for the kids. This is so great.. it scares me it might not be for real since it is so good! ;~)

[ItsTheWooo]

Well, I finally bought a box and tried it for myself.

I prepared half a cup of fatty, meaty, spicy tomato sauce (roughly 300 calories & 8.5 carbs). I then cooked 2 ounces of dreamfields spaghetti (roughly 60 effective calories & 5 carbs) for 9 minutes (so it was still firm; I have heard rumors that the protection is sensitive to over-cooking). Along with this I ate a very low calorie salad (like 60 calories, 2 carbs?) and a tablespoon of parmesan cheese.

Estimated carb & calorie count... 450 cals & 15 grams of carb. This is rather high for me, typically my meals are 350 calories and under 10 grams of carbs. But hey, it was the first bowl of pasta I've had in a LONG time... why not splurge?

First thing I notice while eating it is that it tastes exactly like regular pasta. It was strange to eat starch again... I didn't miss it as much as I thought I would (even though it tasted good I did not feel like I was being given some rare treat... I could take it or leave it).

Second thing noticed is that I became full really really fast. Pasta never filled me up like that before. I wanted to stop eating about halfway through the meal, however I was naughty and ate it all :blush:. Normally if I take more than I want to eat, I would just put the leftovers in the fridge and heat it up later, but I've heard rumors that the "protected starch" is sensitive once prepared. I've heard of cases where dreamfields leftovers caused diabetics to spike and I didn't want to take a chance.

Here I am, almost 3 hours later and I still feel like I ate a huge truckload of food. My stomach is rather visibly distended. To me, this is a good sign that the starch isn't being digested much at all, as it is obviously physically still sitting there inside me like a rock, making me feel all bloated and uncomfortable even 3 hours after eating :D. So yes, most of the starch will pass through undigested into the large intestine. In the large intestine it is possible for bacteria to ferment the starch and derive sugar energy from it, but how much is suspect (probably not very much at all, as we are primarily carnivorous omnivores and therefore do not efficiently derive energy from bacterial fermentation).

On the other hand, I did experience some questionable side effects. When eating the meal I couldn't help but feel like I got "carb sleepiness". I am not sure if this was psychosomatic or not, but I have to admit I felt that "bear hit by a tranquilizer dart" feeling of suspended animation that carbs tend to give ;). Also, my tum feels very "acidy" if that makes any sense... like I have bad indigestion/heart burn or something. I used to get this frequently on high carb, haven't had it in a REALLY long time. Seems the dreamfields pasta gives trouble for those who have problems with starch just as any other starch product would.

I wish I had a meter so I could provide some sort of hard blood sugar data for you all, unfortunately I do not :(. I'll let you know if I notice any scale gain tomorrow (if the carbs were completely digested, it certainly would cause water weight gain I should think).

[SpecialK]

HI ItsTheWooo, I was wondering if you could give your sources for the Dreamfield Pasta loosing it's effectiveness. (Anything I can access/read up on) Last night I made up a big bowl of macaroni salad for a picnic lunch and was really excited about being able to have this again. Now I'm not sure if I should be eating it. Does the over cooking or refrigeration somehow destroy the fiber? I have recommened this product to my SiS who is type 1 and has been for 21 years and has ALL the complications. Would really like to know if I've given her a 'bum steer'.

Anyway I will read whatever journals or papers or whatever if you could help me out with some sites. Unfortunately (actually fortunately) I'll be leaving for 2 days in just about an hour so I won't be able to research this until probably Tue or Wed night. Thanks alot, Karen

[ItsTheWooo]

Special K... alt.support.diabetes is a great resource for info on dreamfields pasta

Here is a link to a post written by a diabetic who reports that all the times he ate dreamfields pasta right after cooking it he was fine (he even ate a huge 4 oz portion :D), however when he used it in macaroni salad & left it standing in the fridge it spiked him:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showpost.php?p=2143542&postcount=26

I should also mention that some (although rarely) diabetics are reporting getting spikes with dreamfields regardless of how its prepared. Here is one such post:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=183324

However, mendosa (a great web resource for diabetes) reports that those diabetics who report spikes with dreamfields pasta at all times usually are using a broken meter, or if not turn out to be very, very, very insulin resistent... meaning, 5 or 6 grams of any kinds of carbs tend to spike them as dreamfields does. This reassures me that the general population who has no or minor insulin resistence should do fine with dreamfields pasta. You can read that here.:
http://www.mendosa.com/dreamfields_pasta.htm

Here is another discussion on the pasta where it's talked about and various people report how it effects them.:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=182049

Hope this helps

[ItsTheWooo]

Oh and by the way, my scale weight was the same this morning, though what I ate yesterday was almost 70 carbs (if not protected).

[Jopalis]

Can you e-mail me? I would like to discuss the contact issue with Dreamfields. We can all share the info we receive. So, after you talk to them perhaps you won't mind sharing. Jopalis ;)

[Jopalis]

Yummmmmy. Last night we prepared above w/olive oil, garlic, parsley, pinch white wine, chopped clams and some grated romano cheese. Totally great! Is 2 oz. about a cup prepared? My whole family eats it! My 3 yr old devoured it!

[BBQman]

Indeed it is good stuff. I don't know why but I never thought about a clam sauce... probably because I'm the only one that likes clams

Thanks for the idea!

[SpecialK]

WOW Woo, You really came through for me. I appreciate it. Will investigate when I have time. Thanks again, Karen

[amazonann7]

Had some tonight for dinner, with just a little butter, freaking good.

[lilgizmo]

I am a diabetic, and I refrigerated mine and ate it over the course of 3 days, and checked my blood glucose ~ 1 hr after eating it, and then 3 hrs. At 1 hr, it is only slightly elevated, like 129, then at 3 hrs, it iwas back to 96, whcih is where mine is "normal" for me. This has happened every time I ate it, and I have also lost a few more pounds...so...I don't know how to explain it, but I love it! Made mac and cheese with it...verrry goood!

[dixiemamma]

oh yall sold me.. going to the grocery today and getting some.. guess we get to have italian tonight! YUMMY! ohhh the choices... what 2 have what 2 have??? My hubbies is gonna think he has died and gone to heaven!

[imlosingit]

I fixed this yesterday. I fixed one serving and served it with meat sauce. It was sooo good. I got full really fast. I do believe what it says about digestable carbs. This morning I weighed, and I was down 1 lb.

However, I do think I will use this as a treat, maybe once a week. I feel like I'm cheating when I'm eating it! Next time, I think i will have a small piece of lc garlic bread with it.

[fabdumplin]

Does anyone know where to buy this in the nyc area especially around in the bronx/manhattan. I went to the website and it said for nyc in several health/speciliaty stores. Does whole foods or anywhere else sell it? thanks

[barefoot55]

I understand the importance of making sure that "carb-like" foods don't trigger one's blood sugar and why this is of importance to diabetics, but how does this relate to a low carb dieter who is more concerned with staying in ketosis than monitoring blood sugar?


I would very much appreciate it if someone could explain this - seems to me we are back to the issue of total carbs per serving versus how fast they are absorbed?

Barefoot

[barefoot55]

Also, I have another question :

Is whether you gained or lost a pound the next day an effective measure of whether your body is digesting all the carbs in this product?

Maybe you would need to see whether it stalls you over a longer period of time?

Not to sound obvious or cynical, because believe me, I love pasta more than anything, but my health is paramount.


Thanks in advance for all the comments and feedback!


Barefoot

[imlosingit]

I have not had sugar, or "carby" foods, in a very long time. The only (1) time that I have on this WOL, I could tell that I had, because I got a headache, dizzy, etc. This did not cause that. I'm not concerned about staying in ketosis-have never bought the strips, and don't really care, as long as I am losing weight and getting to a healthier lifestyle.

I weigh once a week and that is what I go by. I weigh everyday, but not to go by, just to see. I can say, that this morning is the lowest it has been, but since it's not my normal weigh in day, I did not change my profile.

I am not using this everyday, as some might do. It's going to be more like a once or twice week treat.

I think it was potatofree that said something about coming out of the bathroom a few lbs lighter after eating this pasta. Well, she was right. I'm pretty sure I didn't digest all the carbs. ;)

[dixiemamma]

I couldn't find this brand at the store just now, but they did have one made by Mueller's. It's just suppose to be reduced carbs... it has like 12 g of fiber and a total of 31 g carbs.

Where can u find Dreamfields?

[imlosingit]

dixiemamma- I found it at Wal-Mart. They have a lot of different spaghettis and it took me a few minutes to find it. It has the net impact carbs, (or says something like that) in a small yellow circle on the front of the box, and says 5 carbs. It is in a blue box. If only the ends of the box are showing, it only says authentic pasta, so you would never know it was low carb, so to speak, until you picked it up and looked at it. Hope this helps.

[dixiemamma]

ahhh yes it does help. I will be going to ole wally world then. thx!

[serrelind]

Kinda skeptical about this, but excited to try it out. How can so many people's reaction to this be wrong? Hehe. At the moment, I'm not concerned about getting kicked out of ketosis (not even sure if I am in ketosis in the first place) or getting a blood sugar spike. I'm mainly watching my calories. The reason why I'm drawn to this Dreamfield pasta is that it seems to be a pretty filling food -- sorta like eating protein -- you don't get hungry fast after eating it. That seems to be what I'm seeing as I'm going through all these posts. Like a few of you, I have no craving or desire to eat pasta (like I used to), but I am curious to see what this stuff tastes like and if it can help me to control hunger and whatnot.

Going grocery shopping later and see if I can find it!

Serri

[patnaude12]

Hi All,

Wow, this sounds great, our Super WalMart just had its grand opening this week, need to go and see if they have the Dreamland's Pasta.

It is usually very hard to find a lot of products in Montana, we are always at the end of the line.

Will come back when I find some.

Thanks again.

Carol :rose:

[MyJourney]

There is a wall mart near my gym. I will pick up a box tomorrow just out of morbid curiosity.

I am in ketosis now, and when I have too many sugar alcohols (before I used to count them as carbs) I would get knocked out.

If this can knock you out of ketosis it will knock me out.

I think I will make some on Sunday and test my blood glucose every 30 min for the next few hours after just to see the impact.

Will let you all know what happens.

[irinka]

Hello,
I was reading all the posts about Dreamfields and although i really like to try it, I am a bit skeptical.
The Dreamfield company claims that the GI of their pasta is 12.... that is very low. The equivalent food with the same GI would be peanuts and chana dal. I was wondering that maybe the low rise of blood sugar is due not from the undigestible carbs but from the low glycemic value of those carbs. Have any of diabetics out here tried eating about 37 grams of carbs worth of chana dal, or peanuts(that would be a lot!!! of peanuts)? Maybe the carbs in Dreamfields are really 37 but due to low GI they only cause a 5 to 15 mg/dl blood sugar rise. And maybe that is why some people report blood sugar still 5 to 15 points higher 3 to 4 hours after eating. Dreamfields might be a great low GI low Gl food to help you control your blood sugar, but if eating it would contribute extra carbohydrates, even if slowly absorbed throughout the day, 37 gr of carbs would lessen the ketsis, if not hault it.
I am not trying to protest the pasta, I am just carefull about eating it before hearing a little more feedback. If any one ever had the low GI food like chana dal and had their blood sugar tested, please give us some feedback. I would love the statements Dreamfields makes to be true, but when it comes to new low carb products out there I always say "guilty before proven overwise".

[CindyLJP37]

At WalMart in the regular pasta section..black box.

I got 2 boxes of penne at $2.38 each. Not too bad I thought.

I measured 3/4 cup dry (older Tupperwear measuring cups actually have a 3/4 measure) and cooked it up. Made a nice size portion :)

I had it with 1/4c. Carb Options Garden Sauce and 1/4c. mozzerella cheese and omg was soooo good. Exactly as I remember regular pasta but it's been over 5 months since I had any.

I am just thrilled to death to have this! My BF thinks I'm nuts to be so happy over something like LC pasta but he got a kick out of me just reveling every bite!

If you haven't tried it yet I recommend it highly!

[Nancy LC]

So it really is low carb? I seem to remember someone checking their blood glucose after eating it and it didn't go up much.

[potatofree]

There's a whole thread debating it under LC Products. I like it, personally.

[imlosingit]

I like it too. I had it twice this past week, and still lost 3 lbs.

[Mua'Dib]

It's not low carb it just has fiber added to reduce the GI.

[CindyLJP37]

Bleh well after eating 1 portion 2 days in a row I can now say it DOES cause major cravings for me about 2 hours after eating it. Darn it gonna have to save it for special occasions now but it's sooo good....

[potatofree]

It's not low carb it just has fiber added to reduce the GI.

Actually, they claim the blend of fibers are used to somehow coat the starches, limiting absorption. This is one of the reasons it shouldn't be overcooked, and people are finding you can't make pasta salads with it or refrigerate and re-heat the leftovers without having more of a reaction to it.

[DeanaJane]

and people are finding you can't make pasta salads with it or refrigerate and re-heat the leftovers without having more of a reaction to it.


Oh my, now I understand what happened. I'm not diabetic so I don't test my sugar levels. BUT what I did was cook the pasta like normal. THEN put it in a pan into the oven to cook longer with some meat and cheese. I froze some of it. Twice I've pulled it out of the freezer and ate it for dinner, both times I'm up a pound or two on the scale. I had no idea why. Maybe now I know.

Thanks
Deana

[irinka]

For a change, if you are a diabetic and take 5 gm of carb witha GI of approximately 12, will it raise your blood sugar similarly over a few hours as the Dreamfields pasta would?

[Alleine]

I just had the penne rigati and alfredo sauce last night and OMG be-still my full-blooded italian heart!!!!!!!! It was so good. It cooked al dente perfectly. Good body, great taste! I can have pasta! AND I was down a pound on the scale this morning. MOLTO, MOLTO BENE!!!!!

[patnaude12]

Hi All,

Our Super WalMart has the pasta, bought some last weekend and when I got home I put a small saucepan with water on the stove to boil and threw in some macaroni. I cooked it exactly as they said. I threw it in a bowl with butter, garlic powder, onion powder and pepper. Oh my gosh, it was fantastic. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. :yay: :cheer:

DH and I had spaghetti and meatballs for dinner on Sunday, he didn't notice any difference, DH does not lc. The only thing missing was the garlic bread. Had I been thinking I could have used some lc bread with butter and garlic and toasted it in the oven. Will remember next time. :D

Will catch you all later.

Carol :rose:

[patnaude12]

Hi All,

Our Super WalMart has the pasta, bought some last weekend and when I got home I put a small saucepan with water on the stove to boil and threw in some macaroni. I cooked it exactly as they said. I threw it in a bowl with butter, garlic powder, onion powder and pepper. Oh my gosh, it was fantastic. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. :yay: :cheer:

DH and I had spaghetti and meatballs for dinner on Sunday, he didn't notice any difference, DH does not lc. The only thing missing was the garlic bread. Had I been thinking I could have used some lc bread with butter and garlic and toasted it in the oven. Will remember next time. :D

Will catch you all later.

Carol :rose:

[Lipid]

I tried it last for dinner yesterday and my Keto sticks have always been dark purple every time I test and this morning it was barely pinkish at all... I think that I will only have this on rare occasion until I am at the maintenance phase of this WOE.

I had not read this thread yet when I made it last night and I have a bowl of leftover waiting for me in the fridge for my dinner tonight.... now I guess I should just dump it even though it was really good because of whats been said here about the "protection" leaving if its refrigerated and so forth.

On the bright side.... I didn't gain anything from eating it...I'm the same exact weight today as yesterday.

[BettyR]

Lipid-
How long did you cook the pasta?

I've read that if you over cook it (longer than the time stated on the box) that it breaks down the fiber to a point that you can digest it just like regular pasta.

[uneamie]

Perhaps if you email the company who makes this pasta about the cooking and storing procedures they may be able to give you the correct information. I may do that myself and if I get an answer I will post it. Personally I would think they would want you to know how to use this product and supply that information on the box. Better to forwarn diabetics of blood sugar rising after cooking too much or eating left-overs, for that could cause a negative response on their sale of this. That is what makes me think that this is not true....or they would tell you how prepare it etc.

[BoogieBlue]

Iam Type 2 Diabetic....My BG levels have changed to great since beging atkins....in the none Diabetic range now...I tried Dreamfields twice...first time made spaghetti using Hunts sauce with ground beef,mushrooms and a little onions added...cooked it on the low time of suggested cooking time...was great...no significant BG spike..stayed in Ketosis...second time I made Mac and Cheese...boiled it drained it put back in pan added cheese ect...during this process I reheated to get the cheese to melt good..It was good...within 30 mins my BG spiked 120pts...one hr...126pts....two hrs....back down from 226 to 140 where it stayed most of the day....back to 90 the next morn...Keto went away at least on my sticks....I think reheating it to melt the cheese messed it up....But here is the wierd part next day I was down 2 lbs...lol...go figure....I will use it for spaghetti once in a while for variety....but I would watch how long you cook it..especialy if you are Diabetic...Big John

[Tess M]

Hi BigJohn--Just wondering... If you deliberately undercooked the pasta before making your mac and cheese (maybe only 4-5 min. to boil instead of the full time), and then let it finish in the oven--would it maybe be better for your reaction? Maybe a good "mad scientist" experiment for next time? :D Just a thought, but if you do try that and do your testing--please let us know how it turns out for you. :)

[BoogieBlue]

Hey Tess
Yep thats where I probably messed up should have undercooked it than finishing it might not have caused the problems...Been wanting to try some cold pasta salads with it but sorta worried about the stories I have read about eating it right away...wonder if you just drain and cool under tap water and eat it than if a pasta salad would be ok...will probably try that next....but will be a week or so before I do it...Dont want to be using it to much...But will let you all know how it works out....Big John

[uneamie]

just found Dreamfields at our local Shop Rite. Bought lots of linguine, mac, and penna pasta. I also emailed the company about the "over cooking" issue. I ask them if they tested it for that and I also gave them the link to this forum so they can see what everyone is saying about this issue. Hopefully I will get a response and if and when I do I will let you all know what they say.

However, the proof is really in the pudding here. If your testing after reheating and getting bad results then that's probably the only proof we need to go by. I am boarder line diabetic so I do not test myself. I just started to do the low carb so I can lose weight and maybe avoid getting this dreaded disease.

[kisler]

Hi fabdumplin,

I also live in nyc. I bought mine at a Shoprite in Yonkers on Tuckahoe Road. Take the Deegan North to exit 6 will see the Shoprite off the highway. They had the macaroni and penne. Next time I go there I will request the spagetti.

[twofoofers]

Love it! My girls were begging for spaghetti for dinner. I broke down one night while at the store and decided, "What the heck, a little won't kill me." That is when I found the Dreamfields. Everyone loved it. Since then I have made it for my dad and he couldn't tell the difference. It makes a great treat. This summer I will even be able to enjoy my favorite pasta salads!!!

[Dstar96920]

OK, now I gotta have it! I went to their website, and they say it won't hit stores til late June, but I've seen other Georgians (Hi Boogie) that have tried it. Please tell me specifically where. I am going by my local Woodstock Walmart today. I am so excited!

[Dstar96920]

HOORAY! My local Kroger has it! They looked for it for me, and said it just came in this week. Aisle two!

[Dstar96920]

The best! I didn't tell my hubby or son it was LC until after they were eating it. No one could tell the difference. I'm buying some for my Dad for father's day (he's borderline diabetic), along with more of the Russel Stover's SF candies he loves.

[ItsTheWooo]

Iam Type 2 Diabetic....My BG levels have changed to great since beging atkins....in the none Diabetic range now...I tried Dreamfields twice...first time made spaghetti using Hunts sauce with ground beef,mushrooms and a little onions added...cooked it on the low time of suggested cooking time...was great...no significant BG spike..stayed in Ketosis...second time I made Mac and Cheese...boiled it drained it put back in pan added cheese ect...during this process I reheated to get the cheese to melt good..It was good...within 30 mins my BG spiked 120pts...one hr...126pts....two hrs....back down from 226 to 140 where it stayed most of the day....back to 90 the next morn...Keto went away at least on my sticks....I think reheating it to melt the cheese messed it up....But here is the wierd part next day I was down 2 lbs...lol...go figure....I will use it for spaghetti once in a while for variety....but I would watch how long you cook it..especialy if you are Diabetic...Big John
Hi Big John,
I am not a diabetic, but carb sensitive. I've felt fine all times I ate Dreamfields Pasta, and have noticed no stalls because of it. In fact I had a bowl yesterday and today my body feels thinner and the scale lower :). *However* when I heated up Dreamfields in the microwave, I noticed the noodles took on a strange mushy consistency. Physically I didn't feel good (energized) after eating them, as I would have felt eating a normal low carb meal... I felt tired & sluggish. Did you notice the "mushiness" of your noodles too?

I really think overcooking/processing compromises the integrity of the protection. It's probably alright to make some and eat it later cold, but heating it up or overcooking is probably not a good idea.

[ItsTheWooo]

The best! I didn't tell my hubby or son it was LC until after they were eating it. No one could tell the difference. I'm buying some for my Dad for father's day (he's borderline diabetic), along with more of the Russel Stover's SF candies he loves.
Hi Dstar96920
Just a warning about LC candy & diabetes: make sure you get candies that have very little caloric sugar alcohols in them, as these ARE metabolized into sugar by the body eventually. For people on low carb plans they usually don't pose a problem, assuming they eat them in small portions & as a treat only, however Diabetes is a whole different issue. Diabetics need to limit sugar because they can't metabolize it well at all, even low glycemic sugar. For diabetics it's all about glycemic load not glycemic index. Therefore, something like maltitol - if eaten in a high enough concentration seen in the typical candy bar - can cause a blood sugar spike for them. The only difference tends to be time. The spike comes later due to the complexity of the sugar alcohols.

A really good candy to get diabetics is anything sweetened with polydextrose, erythritol, and/or sucralose/aspartame/saccharin or any of the non caloric sweeteners. An example of such a candy is the Zcarb bar. Though it contains tons of sugar alcohols, they are all the 0 calorie erythritol so it won't be a problem. Another benefit for Zcarb? It's healthy... one bar has 70% dv of calcium, some magnesium, and REAL chocolate fats & ingredients whereas many other bars are loaded with tons of crap like trans fat and have 0 nutrition.

[Dstar96920]

Thanks for the info It's the Woo. I will look for those Zcarb bars instead!

[emilia]

I found this stuff by accident. I was perusing the pasta aisle, dreaming of days gone by, when suddenly, a disembodied ray of light shone down on a shelf spot a few feet down from me. I think I even heard angels singing... and there it was. I read the label, and just thought it was too good to be true. Had some that night, and it was so good, that I REALLY thought it was too good to be true. But I didn't have any trouble with it, no weight gain or bloating or (ahem) ...gas.... I'm still a little incredulous, still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Until then...

Next week... Fettucini Alfredo!!!

[cheeze]

I got found this at Kroger today. Ate one serving for dinner with butter and cheese, it was sooo yummy. I was careful to only cook it for 9 min, hopefully it really only does have 5 effective carbs. I am going to be careful though and only eat it a couple of times a week.

[BoogieBlue]

Yep it was kinda mushy by the time I heated it enough for all the cheese to get melted good.....next time I will undercook it....than add the cheese and goodies....Big John

[Rowan'sma]

I've been eating this stuff for almost a month now, but do find that if it's overcooked, I wake up bloated, and headachy the next morning.

[NannyCakes]

Has anyone heard anything about the nutritional value of this stuff? It tastes great, but if most of it is undigestible, are you getting any nutrition from eating it?

[MelanieH]

I did the same thing I bought the pasta at shaws and then I got it home and I looked on the side of the box and saw it had 42 grams of carbs and I did not understand.. I was afraid to cook it. but now that I saw this post I feel much better I think I will make it tonight with this cheese sauce that I make.. Thanks again.


Mel

[Lisa N]

Has anyone heard anything about the nutritional value of this stuff? It tastes great, but if most of it is undigestible, are you getting any nutrition from eating it?

The same question popped into my head today as I was comparing the nutritional values (vitamins and minerals) to that of regular pasta at the store. They seemed pretty close, but then I thought, "Wait...if you can't digest this stuff, are you really getting the percentages of vitamins and minerals listed here?"
I don't have an answer to that one yet, but it's certainly an interesting question!

[argo2d]

i emailed them about that, they said fda wont let them take off those calories but that their fiber blend protected them from being digested. oh they also said their carbs are onle 1.4 calories instead of 4... have no idea how that works! i for one wont buy this stuff... prefer my tofu shiritake noodles!... TRULY low carb and tasted like pasta and low calorie!

[Dstar96920]

I ate 2 oz. of this pasta (elbows, spaghetti and the linguine) 4 out of the last 7 days. No weight gain! I told so many people about it at my Curves class, that when I went in to my local Kroger to pick up a new box of spaghetti, they were down to six boxes! Now that my pasta craze is coming down, I am limiting myself to twice a week. I did make mac and cheese for the husband and son last night (didn't eat any myself) because they absolutely love the stuff. I think they missed pasta as much as I did! Oh, we've noticed it also helps to keep your system "moving" thanks to all the fiber and faux fiber.

[atlee]

I'm mainly interested in using Dreamfields in casseroles -- for plain old eating, I prefer vegetable pastas (eggplant, sp. squash, zucchini) anyway, but I do have several casserole recipes where the veggie pastas don't stand up very well. Since the key factor of a casserole is that you reheat it :), I emailed Dreamfields and asked about whether reheating it destroys the carb protection. Here's what they replied:

Based on the way the pasta is made, and how our special fiber and protein blend protects the carbs, we don't believe that reheating will affect the level of digestible carbs. This has been supported by initial tests we've conducted under a variety of preparation, heating and re-use methods.

It's a little bit on the vague side, but they do seem to be saying that it's OK to use it in reheatable dishes. Guess I'll just have to try it and see how it works. I may try reheating in the oven, or very gently in the microwave, to avoid any possible overcooking.

[MelanieH]

I made it with last night and made a yummy cheese sauce to go with it and it was great I did not even taste a difference from reg macoroni. I had my hubby try it and compare it to his high carb macoroni dish and he could not tell the difference.. I am going to 2 fathers day partys this weekend and I think I will make a macoroni salad with it...and nobody will know the difference.

[Nancy LC]

Has anyone heard anything about the nutritional value of this stuff? It tastes great, but if most of it is undigestible, are you getting any nutrition from eating it?

Is there really much nutrition in any pasta? Other than what they spray on the flour to add vitamins to it. Really, I'd count on getting nutrition from the stuff that goes on it, not the pasta itself.

[argo2d]

question: is everyone going to the bathroom a lot more now that they're eating this stuff? -- thats the only proof that will convince me its not being digested! :)

[Paris]

I just tried the Dreamfields spaghetti and I feel really good. Nice and full, and not at all feeling like I ate 3 oz of pasta. :D

[wils]

O k people in Ontario, found it at Zehr's today four different types, bought the spaghetti, but will try it later. So any grocery stores that are related by the same supplier should have it soon. Zehr's, Valu Mart, Loblaw's, don't know the store names out West. Since there are only 2 main grocery distributors in Canada, it should be in a store near you soon.

[MissMissy]

:) We have tried so many lc pasta products that taste like, well, you know. yuck.

I saw a tv commercial for this brand, and found it tonight at Cub Foods - the big major warehouse-type grocery store in Minnesota. It was DELICIOUS I couldn't even believe it. Made some pesto sauce & dumped some mushrooms in. YAY! I did have two servings, couldn't really limit myself to the tiny one-serving amount.

just wanted to share with you all how happy I am!

[BrendaS]

I've had this pasta (in tomato soup) two days in a row, and both days I've had just a tiny rise in my insulin readings. Day 1 it went from 97 to 105, and the second day it went from 96 to 107. This was 30 minutes after consuming.

I've also had NO GI effects from eating the pasta... and normally I would since I'm on Metformin.

Definately going to make this a weekly "cheat".

[PecanPie]

We had it tonight and it was great - we made it with italian sausage, mushrooms, zucchinni (sauteed) and added fresh tomatoes, fresh basil and grated parmesan - then mixed it all together - terrific meal and much easier to eat just one serving!

PecanPie

[kevinpa]

nm..........

[Newbirth]

question: is everyone going to the bathroom a lot more now that they're eating this stuff? -- thats the only proof that will convince me its not being digested! :)I fart more when I eat it regularly.

[ginyer]

Tried it for the first time tonight -- so I'm kind of waiting to be hungry or get the shakes from raising my carb level, but so far so good...will see how my appetite is tomorrow, but if this stuff works, I could do this forever and I'm very happy...:)