protein fast .... Group Journal

[doreen T]

Well, I'm about to bite the bullet - or the hard-boiled egg, I should say - and begin a stint of Stillman. I really hope this shakes things up, or OFF rather.

Now, I'm going to go make a batch of Diet Revolution Rolls with dry cottage cheese and no fat. At least I can then have "sandwiches".

Wish me luck!

Doreen
202/179/145 since July '00


[Edited by doreen T on 17-11-00 at 12:29]

[r.mines]

Keep us posted on your progress! I might do a couple of days of Meat Fast next week, but I seem to be losing, though slowly, finally. Was 'stuck' for over two weeks after Induction, but I'm definitely down a pound over the last couple of days. I think I'll give my body some time to adjust to being in a 'losing' mode. It's only been just over a month since I restarted Atkins, after all. Musn't be too impatient!
Rachel

[doreen T]

Well, I'm completely anorectic today. Same thing happened to me when I did Stillman in the summer. Not that I'm complaining, I suppose it might be worse to be ravenous all the time. I just have to remember to eat. Drank lots though, 4 liters +. And I am in ketosis. Didn't expect that until Day 3.

I'm going to try supplementing with 0 carb isolated-whey protein shakes, just a 1/2 portion, twice a day. Maybe add some flax meal. The Original Stillman program didn't allow it, but the diet was created 30 yrs. ago before we had such things. I figure as long as it's high quality protein, 0 carb and fat, it should be ok. Anybody else have ideas on this?? (I know flax meal has some fat, but it's the good Omega-3 type)

Wish me luck (please). I'm determined to stick this out for the long haul. :)

Doreen

[NNN]

HI
Here I am joining you in a way I think. I just have to do something to start my losing engine up and running, I said I was going to go on a meat diet for two days and now I am not sure just what it is Low carbs maybe.
Today I had 2 eggs
1 piece of bacon( I forgot and ate it)
9 inches of pepperoni ( I was shopping and starved)
2 pork chops and coffees. two of them had Splenda and coffee whitener
And I had a big glass of diet pop ad a small but of dulce. Oh I am hungry. Now can anyone offer ant suggestions, I guess I should really be aiming for as lowest carbs as possible and low fat. What do you think ladies? And I am feeling very cold and that is how it was months ago when I was losing. I guess I am too excited as I only restarted today.LOL
Norma NNN

[tamarian]

Originally posted by NNN
Oh I am hungry. Now can anyone offer ant suggestions, I guess I should really be aiming for as lowest carbs as possible and low fat. What do you think ladies?

If I say something, does that make me a lady? :p

Hunger while on low-carb can be eliminated by drinking plenty of water, which is the best filler. All this is assuming you eat plenty of frequent low-carb meals.

Wa'il

[NNN]

Hi Wa'il Rumour has it that you have experienced PMs recenty so maybe you can let your feminine side out now and then. Okay I have the water in front of me and I just cooked and ate some hamburger as those 2 pork chops did not help much and I did beg DH for an Atkins bar that he is controling for me as I ate all of those Ross bars up and sometimes had 3 or 4 a day. So the atkins Bar I get one a day. And I am now having an Atkins Bar and if I crave anymore food I am going to bed!! Alone!!
NNN

[tamarian]

Hehe, private messaging system (PMS). Now here's one for you, atkins bars are not meat :) so (technically) you're not on a meat diet! How much water have you had? It is best to drink water frequently and with meals (before, during and after).

Wa'il

[NNN]

Okay I think I am on induction maybe but then Atkins bars should not be on induction. I guess I am just going low carb as I acan. Yes the back teeth are starting to float as I am downing the water. Oh and I guess I will have some green tea or that herbal laxative that really did not "lax" me. Now Wa'il how did you gain your 90 some pounds back and how are you doing now?
I used to do so well without cheating and now it seems such a struggle to lose that it frighens me. I am 140 already and you know how fast it comes back on. I keep fairly low through the week at times But oh I can just feel the pounds going on. I was just so cute and petite there for awhile. What a love affair I had for awhile with myself but alas, it did not last long. Why I could not keep my hands off myself. I was forever feeling my bum and wondering where it had gone.Now when I run I am starting to feel something shaking behind me and it is the fat on my back and pounds on my hips. Oh woe is me. I need a grip before I get right back up there. I am trying today , honest.
NNN

[doreen T]

hi NNNorma,

If you want to do a protein fast of some sort, then you must be prepared. The protein you eat will be cooked by you at home, will not be processed or full of nitrates, hidden carbs or other additives. You will drink liters and liters of water. Your coffee and tea will be clear, maybe a little 0 carb sweetener, like liquid SugarTwin or the tablets.

Even Atkins Induction requires you to plan ahead and be prepared (I feel like my own echo :D ) LOL Anyway, you know what I mean. You sound as though you're making a lot of positive changes. Probably all you need is just a jumpstart to get things rolling again.

You can do it! If you want to try one of the protein fasts, there are links listed here in this forum. Try to remember to have high-protein, no-carb foods cooked and ready to grab in the fridge when munchies strike, or when you're in a rush out the door and starving (my personal mistake :rolleyes: )

Doreen

[tamarian]

You'll do fine, especially that you are alarmed quite early before the weight comes back! In a sense, the 90 lbs. I gained is a blessing, I was quite under-weight. I didn't beleive it when people said I'm skinny at 200 lbs (6" large frame), but it showed. But the weight came back slowly within 3 years, I was just being a workaholic and neglected my health and diet. In essense I'm glad it's only 90 lbs. since I started losing at 400 lbs. and you usually gain the weight back and then some! So I'm still 110-120 lbs below my start weight. I've got 60 more to go, but thankful, I'm no where near where I was!

Wa'il

[NNN]

Thanks for the pep talk Doreen and Wa'il. I will quit my whining and try to get my act in gear. :o)
Catch you later
NNN

[doreen T]

hi everybody,

This isn't difficult to do at all. I think the difference between now and when I tried to do Stillman this summer is all the positive support and encouragement from you, fellow forum members.

I am not experiencing any of the negative side effects like headaches, irritability, etc. In fact, I have been sleeping well (I have a sleep disorder) and have more energy than in a long time. Wow :cool: My ankles have re-appeared after being puffy for months. In 4 days, I'm down 2 lbs, although I'm less concerned about weight loss than mobilizing fat cells and excess fluid in my body. So far, this seems to be working. Keep wishing me good luck, it really helps!!

It definitely requires advance preparation though. If I didn't have some cooked chicken and a batch of Atkins Revolution rolls handy for frequent small snacks between main "meals" I'm sure I would be tempted to eat the wrong things, like fast food, cheese or sliced deli meats. And drink the water, drink the water, drink the water :p

THANKYOU,

Doreen 202/178/145

[r.mines]

Good on you, Doreen, keep us posted on your progress! How's your Stillman stint coming along, Wa'il?

Rachel

[tamarian]

It's going well, no cravings, and I don't miss anything (yet). I'll weight myself at the end of the week, since my weight swings a lot.

Wa'il

[doreen T]

Okay folks, I need you.

The lack of appetite is really bad in the early part of the day, I have to force each and every bite down. But, I know it's important to have some protein every couple of hours to keep blood sugar stable. And I'm pushing the water.

It's like I drink a big glass of water, sometimes squeeze fresh lemon in it, then 1/2 hr to 1 hour later I eat something, a chicken thigh or whatever. Before I know it, and certainly before I'm hungry, it's time to drink more water and have something more to eat!!

But in the evening . . . . last night I found I was REALLY craving - not carbs, but cheese and butter and mayo. and FAT. I found it really hard to choke down another piece of "dry" meat without some fat on it. Today, I'm going to make soup. Fat-free, carb-free broth with chicken, some fresh herbs and egg - kind of like egg-drop soup. Maybe that will satisfy my "tooth".

If I can stick out the rest of the week, I might even go for a 2nd.

Doreen

[tamarian]

Me too, it starts to get bland after a few days. I'll just complete the 7 days, and plan to do it frequently as a stall buster. One thing for sure, I need to do more shopping next time!

Wa'il

[NNN]

How are you doing today?
NNN

[doreen T]

Well, I lasted the whole week, only cheat was I could not drink coffee without cream. I freely admit my caffeine addiction, so NOT drinking coffee was not an option. :p However, I did measure carefully and 5 ml of 18% cream per cup was enough to satisfy the tooth without blowing it.

I lost 3 lbs in one week, which is a big deal for me, normally it takes 3 weeks for one lb! And I have ankles and knuckles again - anyone else who suffers chronic fluid retention will undrestand what I mean ( I am also hypothyroid).

I did not go hungry, the 'anorectic effect' lasted two or three days only, after that I ate a small protein meal every couple of hours. I found it absolutely imperative to have some protein foods cooked and ready to grab in the fridge - chicken thighs, boiled eggs, Atkins Revolution rolls and small cans of water-pack tuna. Oh yes, diet Jello! Boredom was a challenge; to overcome this I made sure to use plenty of herbs and spices - and garlic - to keep things tasty and interesting. Stillman allowed it, so I took advantage!! The only cravings I experienced were for fats. Mostly, I just wanted something creamy textured or to moisten the meat and chicken. Blenderizing boiled eggs with a blob of dry cottage cheese, a little water, lemon juice and herbs made an acceptable creamy dip, which helped.

Tomorrow, I will begin adding back fat, which is what I'm craving anyway. As long as I'm still in ketosis and not gaining (notice I'm not going to worry if I stop LOSING) in 3 or 4 days, I will slowly add back carbs, in 5-gram increments, until Atkins Induction level is reached.

That's my plan, hope I can stick to it. Thankyou everyone for your interest and support, I might not have stuck to it without you.

Doreen ;)

[sugar]

Doreen:

Keep up the fight. Think of me since I've finished up my last two nights--I have had my sugar binge and back to diet tomorrow. I think I'm craving protein and will fix that tomorrow. As I may have told you eating after 8 is usually a no no--I will pay for it all night. The good thing about falling off the wagon is you can get back on tomorrow. Have you noticed the tomorrow theme in my message? Remind me of it--tomorrow.

Sugar

[NNN]

Got a message to day to go to the forum thread 168 and when I clicked on it, it is from last fall. Wonder hwere that notice has been all of this time LOL It says:
Hello,

sugar has just replied to your thread entitled - protein fast - in the Stalls and Plateaus forum of Low Carber Forum.

This thread is located at:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?threadid=168

There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the thread.

[doreen T]

Originally posted by NNN
Got a message to day to go to the forum thread 168 and when I clicked on it, it is from last fall. Wonder hwere that notice has been all of this time LOL It says:
Hello,

sugar has just replied to your thread entitled - protein fast - in the Stalls and Plateaus forum of Low Carber Forum.

This thread is located at:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?threadid=168

hi NNNormajean,

I THINK (not 100% positive) there are two things going on. First, I started this thread back last fall when I did a week of Stillman, and if I remember correctly, it was originally posted to the "Daily Lowcarber" forum (which you moderate). And then our Great and Magnificent Webmaster created this "Stalls and Plateaus" forum.... and I later moved the thread down here.

Second, the post from sugar was only made last nite (Friday), I think she meant to post to another thread in this forum, where I am once again whining and spouting off my dietary woes! Or WOE's..... :rolleyes:

Not sure if this is helpful or even accurate!! Oh well, I tried.

Doreen

[Erin4980]

I was searching around to get some feedback on Meat Fasts and stumbled upon this thread. Doreen, when I saw your results, it was kinda inspiring. My only question is that I read that extra protein turns to glucose?? I been having all sorts of questions conerning protein/fats (despite my 5 month tenure on Atkins)...I really need to refresh my WOL reading. Anyway, I'm starting Meat Fast tomorrow and you're right, preparation is key...eggs for breakfast and then off to the grocery store;) I just wanted to see if you had any other tips/ suggestions about it. Like, I know you weren't really doing the meat fast to lose weight (I think you said to break a stall?) anyway, did you gain before you lost?

I don't know...I've been toying with doing this for a while...so I might as well see what happens.

Monday thur Thursday is the length of it. I hoping to curb my appetite and jump start my loss and regain some control;)

I think that four days will be just enought time before I get bored of the lack of fat...lol. Plus I driving to Memphis on Friday - I think broccoli is the more acceptable car food than steak and sprimp...lol

Thanks,
E

[lony_ca]

Who makes ZERO carb protein powder? The lowest I've been able to find has 3 gm of carbs/svg (24 gm Protein. Made by Sisu~~in BC I believe)

[Erin4980]

I use Carbolite, which says zero, but is probably wrong...

[MaryErics]

Prolab Isopure whey carb-free has 0 carbs, and Prolab Isopure whey low-carb has 1.5 carbs.

[donnaj]

Could someone please explain this fast for me? I would like to jump start my weight loss again.
Thanks in advance.
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

I am curious about this meat fast too....how does it work?

I also have a question about whey protein powder....I make goat cheese and inevitably have lots of liquid whey left over from the process. Does anyone know if I can drink this on Atkins and how many carbs there is in it? I know some folks feed it to livestock and even raise pigs on whey alone.....it is supposed to be really good for you, and I have used it to make great bread and pizza dough...(alas, pre low carb/// :( )

I see at the GNC stores there are tons of different kinds of this whey protein powder, and wonder if I have a possible lo carb gold mine in my kitchen!!?

Thanks for any information!

Carol

[donnaj]

Carol,
I started the fast this morning. I am eating 6 to 8 small potion of protein a day for about 5 days to see if this will help. So far,
I have had 3 pieces of sausage and 3 eggs and 3 slices of ham.
I plain to have chicken and hamburger this evening. I am drinking water until I am floating. I will report if anything happens.
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

What is all this stuff about a protein fast? Isn't a fast where you don't eat anything at all? Shoot! What you guys are doing is kind of what I do every day. I don't mess with all of that whey and protein powder (which is usually made from milk by-products, anyway) and go straight to the source...MEAT! I find that I'm not really eating that many calories, after all, even though I eat a lot of fat. Anyway, what is the point? I'm just interested in finding out more, all of the time. If there is a good, sound reason for all of this, I would like to know. Always looking for faster ways to lose my unwanted fat globules...Hey! I have recently lost 43 pounds and figured it out that this is the equivalent of 172 1/4 pound cubes of butter up against the wall! That's a lot of, heavy, disgusting, evil fat!

[Ranger]

What a great way to think of the weight loss....I have lost 28 lbs so far and I think that I have lost more than the Thanksgiving turkey from my bod!

Donnaj, good luck on the meat fast...I have been indulging a little too much in the peanut butter jar the past few days....I think I will try to eat just meat too....my homemade goat cheese has 0 carbs.....is it ok to include that too? What do you think? We can all do this together!

Carol

[donnaj]

Hello Carol and and captxray, I weigh myself this morning and I have lost one pound. Captxray, I was reading in my Atkins News revolutionary diet book about fat fast on Pg.272 and I decided to try a protein fast to see if it was protein that I was missing in my diet that caused the stall. Well, I think one of the problem is not eating enough protein. I will stay on this for a couple of days to get my metabolism going again then add my carbs slowly so I can check the sugar level to see if they spike my sugar level up.
So, this morning so far I have had 1 egg and 1 piece of sausage and one 12 oz glass of water.
Carol, have you started the protein fast yet? I think you can have the cheese because it is protein. I might add cheese maybe tomorrow to my list of protein. Well I hope you both have a great day.
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

Yes, I started the protein fast today....4 fried eggs in butter sprinkled with hormel bacon bits...(sometimes I am just too lazy to cook bacon!) I've had about 20 ozs. of water so far, along with my supplements.....do you take any supplements? This time I bought the Atkins supplements, Essential oils, dieters advantage, and Basic #3, I bought about a 3 month supply, figuring I would have so much invested that I had better stick with it!

Not sure yet what is for lunch, perhaps chicken or tuna salad with mayo, and steak for dinner. and perhaps some goat cheese here or there for a snack...I love that stuff!....I too will go downstairs and do some more spring cleaning and also the workout video...if my daughter lets me use the TV for a minute!

Stick with it Donna! Together we can do this! :roll:

Carol

[donnaj]

Carol, It sounds like you had a good day with the protein fast. I had a steak around 3 this evening and I am thinking about having a hamburger this evening. I lost a lb over night and hoping he whoosh fairy will take some more this evening. I had about 64 oz of water so far and 2 cups of coffee amd 1 cup of decaf. tea. I really appreciate you being their for me. Well I better get going I need to get something in my stomach. Oh, watch your sugar level my dropped down to 68 last night and that is a little too low. Well girlfriend I hope your evening is wonderful and that the whoosh fairy comes and takes away allot of fat.
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

I stuck to this all day...but honestly I want something else!!! Had eggs for breakfast, chicken salad (mixed with goat cheese spread and a little mayo for lunch) it was really good, and ended up having pork ribs for dinner.....no salad, jello or anything....oh I also had about 2 oz. of cheddar....I have had about 50 0zs of water so far...the good thing is it is getting close to bed time for my daughter so that will keep me away from the fridge. I did do my exercise video again....we shall see if I can stick with it.

I shall see if the the woosh fairy drops by tonight.....

The only discouraging thing that happened today, was some one emailed a photo of me that was taken this am. I brought my daughter to the elementary school dressed in lederhosen and did a talk about Germany, as that is what they are all studying....even though I have lost a bunch of pounds I still look terrible in photos....I never took a good photo....oh well....I guess it is just more incentive to stick with this WOE.....!!!

Good luck Donnaj, I'll check in tomorrow to see if we were successful with our whoosh fairy invitations....lol!
Carol

[donnaj]

Well the fairy did come but she/he only took a pound. I weigh in this morning at 166. I have one more day at the protein fast and then I will add my salad. I did start a exercise program. I did belly dancing for about 30 min.

Carol, don't worry about your photograph. I even take a bad picture when I am skiny. I am glad you are teaching about Germany. My father family came from Germany. My last name is Klieves. When I was growing up in the 50's I was called every bad name you could think of and I was born here and so was my father and grandparents. My father was raised in Wheeling West Virginia and it had a huge German population.

Well, I hope the whoosh fairy visited you also. We can do this !!!!
Carol are you big boned. I am and so is my sister. It makes a different I think because it is harder for me.

Well have a good day , my friend.
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

Congrats! One lb is one lb.....I stuck with it yesterday and so far today.....but didn't lose....that's ok...it is getting to be that TOM so the fact that I didn't gain is a big plus!

I ended up having to work this am, so ended up skipping breakfast, which I know is not good, but haven't gone off it yet...when I got home I had 4 eggs, (I share them with my daughter) then I made banana muffins......was really tempted to lick the spoon, but didn't....I could just stay away from baking, but the rest of my family love sweets.....plus those bananas looked pretty brown! (I can't let anything go to waste!)

So now I have to clean up the kitchen, and drink some water, do my excercise tape and think about dinner......tonight I think I will cook 2 steaks, one for me and one for DH and daughter!

It was fun volunteering at the school...the kids were a riot! My dad is from Cologne, Germany or (Koln) on the Rhine river. He came here in 1957 when he was 22....my maiden name is Besgen which is not a common German name. Even when I was in elementary school in the mid 60's kids would make fun of me for being a "kraut."

My mom's side of the family is from the Stuttgart area in southern Germany....they are having a family reunion there in the fall and my folks are going to go....that should be fun.

Well we are having a wicked snowstorm right now...about 4 inches on the ground and it is coming down like crazy.....so much for "Happy Spring!" Oh well it is bound to come sooner or later!!!

Good luck, and stick with it....we can do it! Together it is easier!

I bet the belly dancing is kind of fun, I will go and work on my aerobics video....and smell those muffins while I am excercising!
Way to torture myself, don't you think!? LOL
Carol

[captxray]

What is wrong with people, anyway? Why do people have to constantly segregate themselves into little groups, or big groups? Why can't we all just be one big happy family? After all, we are all just members of one race...the Human Race. The last true "race" was the Neanderthals of the Ice age about 40,000 years ago. They were actually quite different than us. They couldn't talk the way we can, which may be one reason why they died out. The insides of their mouths were much flatter and their tongues were also flatter (as evidenced by the fossil bone fragments left behind). Therefore, they couldn't say any of the vowel sounds and could only make high pitch squeaks and gutteral grunts. Not much of a language. Not much different than the great apes. As humans, we have a lot of problems with easily choking because of the structure of our mouths and throats which are desingned for the sake of language. It's a survival mechanism in human beings. All of us are built the exact same way whether we are black, white, yellow, or green. I just hate racism in any form. Oh well, I guess that's just one of the ugly little aspects of being human. Enough of my soapbox.

You know, I think I may have been doing this fast thingy without realizing it and losing a lot of weight, too. My wife is out of town visiting our youngest daughter who is about to have her first baby and our first grandchild. Because she hasn't been around, I have been a little depressed and working very late hours in my private practice. Because of all of that, I have been coming home to something easy to cook late at night. So, I've been eating meat, meat and more meat...along with a salad. Sounds like a protein fast, doesn't it? I think so. Am I right? Anyway, in the last week, I've lost about four pounds after about a three week hiatus. This is good! I think I see something to what you are talking about. Now, that I'm aware of it, I think I will experiment with it a bit and see if I can continue to lose weight at this pace and remain healthy.

[donnaj]

Hello Carol and captxray,
Well the rain has stopped and now to clean up the mess. It has been raining for 3 days and we had water covering almost all of West Virginia.
Carol, Tom can really cause trouble but I bet you will lose several pound afterward. That the way I did when I was having Tom visit. I haven't seen him since 1985. I know what you mean about being called "kraut" but I am proud of my German heritage and well as my Irish and Scottish. I hope your parent reunion will be wonderful for them. We well do this girlfriend. I am going to start adding one cup of lettuce with mayo dressing tomorrow and then go from there. I was doing some research on protein fast it not recommend to go over two days because of the protein spill into the kidney. Have you been drinking your water? It is very important. Well I email tomorrow have a wonderful evening.

Hello captxray,
It sound like you are doing a protein fast. How much weight have you lost so far? I am going to start adding lettuce tomorrow and then start adding my vegetables again. I just wanted to start my weight loss again.
Congratulation on becoming a grandfather. When is your daughter due?
Captxray, if I have offended you I am sorry. I don't like racism either in no form. You are welcome to email me anytime.
Congratulation on losing 4 lbs that wonderful.
Well you two, I have to go but I pray that both your evening is wonderful full of joy.
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

Donnaj you didn't offend me! I was commenting on the way people call each other names and discriminate on each other for being of one or another group.

My daughter is expecting the baby in about a month and a half.

Well, now that I know what a protein fast is, I think I will continue to do this. Although, most of the time, that's what I do, anyway. The great amount of weight loss (four pounds) came in the last five days, since my wife has been gone and I've been very lazy about just eating the easy stuff to make, namely meat.

[donnaj]

Captxray,
Is this your first grandchild? I have no children but I have plenty of neices and nephews and now allot (7) great neices and nephews. They are a joy. I am expecting two more in June and July.

When I was in my 30's I was on Nutribolic. It was a weigh center and their menu was very similar to Atkins.
They had 2 slices of sugar free bacon and 1 egg fixed any way you wanted it. Then for luch you had 1 cup of lettuce with one tablespoon mayo for dressing. A choice of 3 oz protein.
For dinner, you had 3 oz of protein and 1 cup of green beans.
You did this for 2 weeks and then you started adding vegetables but they had supplement that you could have. They were 2.00 a piece and you could have 3 a day. I lost weight but after having several illness and going through college that added the weight for me.
I am proud of you for losing four pounds and I will pray that the whoosh fairy will visit and take some more away.
Have a good evening.
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Congrats on the 4 lbs lost! Isn't it funny, that when you get a little lax and don't want to bother with the veggies, how easy it is to lose? I get very lazy and sometimes eat the same things over and over....I won't even cook bacon sometimes and just sprinkle some Hormel bacon bits over my frying eggs....just for the taste! Sometimes, I get lazy 'cause I still make a regular meal for the family and then have to decide what I will have...but it is usually not that tough... :p Good luck with the future grandbaby!

Well Donna, You are getting rain and we are getting snow! Tons of it....we have about 10 inches on the ground and it is still coming down...so far this is the biggest storm we have had all winter...or should I say Spring!? Oh well, they are all worried about a severe drought around here, so this should help a little...I like snow, unfortunately we have not had our snowmobiles out at all this year.....they say we might have 2 more storms this week, so who knows, maybe we will get to ride after all....

Yes, I have been drinking my water, but I will be glad to have a salad again tomorrow....I have made it 2 whole days without carbs, but I must say I am a bit of a crab today....I had a huge steak for dinner...it was excellent. :wave:

I won't be weighing myself tomorrow, since I brought the scale out to the barn to weigh our new baby goat.....I will stand on the scale with him, and then weigh myself and subtract the difference, but I usually weigh myself right when I get up without clothes....so being all bundled up won't be accurate....(at least in my mind! ;)

So, I am excited to hear how you guys do tomorrow...I will report my weight on Friday....I am happy that I did my aerobics tape for the third day in a row....now my daughter wants to do it with me, she is so funny!

Keep the faith friends, and we can surely do this together!
Carol

[captxray]

Hi, Ranger and Donna J

We have four daughters, but they are, for the most part, not being very cooperative about giving us grandchildren to spoil. Our two oldest are 26 year old twins. One is working on her PhD in biochemistry at Scripps Institute, in La Jolla, Calif. She wants a career and no children...bummer! Our other twin is about to become a Captain in the Air Force. She says she wants children, but not until she makes Major! Well, who knows? That's about 6 more years. My 25 year old is engaged and plans to be married next Easter...not this year. She is attending college as an Art History Major. The problem is that she is only in her second year of a PhD program and she plans to complete it before children!!! That means at least another 6 years! Our youngest dropped out of high school, got her GED (of all of the girls, she probably has the highest IQ, but whatever), married an Air Force enlisted man, who hasn't made sergeant yet, is living in near-poverty, and is very unhappy. My wife is with her, right now, trying to cheer her up with the upcoming little bundle.

Last night, I came home very late and pigged out! I ate a pile of meat, loaded with fat, and a huge salad that I made, full of nuts and home-made dressing and home-made mayonaise, with brocolli, asparagus, and onions...I ate until I couldn't eat anymore! I thought, "Now, that probably really messed up my protein fast." I cringed as I got on the scale this morning. To my surprise, I didn't gain! In fact, I stayed the same! That probably means that I really did lose some weight because I ate and went to bed. I only slept four and a half hours, too. I need my wife to be home to take care of me!!! Am I disgusting, or what? I really want her home. Not just because she feeds me right, but because I really miss her! I really don't like this bachelor lifestyle. If you're into women's lib, you are probably thinking, "What a disgusting blob of male humanity. Can't even make it without a woman to take care of him...pathetic!" And you know what? You'd be right! Enough whining! I think it's this lousey virus I've had for almost four weeks talking.

[Ranger]

hi Captxray,

I have been married almost 9 years now and my husband just started a job that is rotating shifts...I miss him terribly when he works nights, and I know I will see him the next day! Take heart, time will fly and your sweetie will be home before you know it.

My daughter is my parents first grandchild...they have a blast trying to spoil her.....of course I am the mean mommy and have to say no to all there offers of treats and candy! Funny they don't remember not spoiling me???LOL

Well, even though it wasn't a protein fast, it still sounds pretty lo carb....don't fret...that weight will come off before you know it...I was shocked today when I dug my scale out of the barn and had lost two more lbs today....I am finally at the weight I was when I got married. (Got to try on that old wedding dress)

Take care! Good luck
Carol

[captxray]

:cheer:
Two pounds in one day?!!! That's it! Tonight I vow to stay on the fast that I again started this morning. So far, all I've had is Kippered Snacks for lunch. I'm a school teacher by day and a psychotherapist and domestic relations mediator by night. My students are wondering what that awful smell is in the classroom after lunch...HA! I've found a way to get even with all of them for being typical teenagers! HA! HA! HA! HA! This is great! I told them that if they aren't quiet and don't do their work, I will make it smell even worse, tomorrow. I think they've bought it! HA! HA! We'll see how good they can be, now! I need to have my wife return. I'm becoming a little sadistic. I think I may be enjoying this a bit too much!

[Ranger]

Kippered snacks! Perhaps those poor kids will drop your class!?
Just kidding, it might keep them in line(LOL!)

Just remember to drink lots and lots and lots of water.....that is what I did on Donnaj's advice, and she only recommended doing the protein fast for 2 days....then adding a salad again....on the third day....make sure you eat enough too.....man cannot live (lose) on kippered snacks alone.....or maybe you can, what do I know? LOL I know if you don't eat enough protein it is hard to lose also......Take care teach!
Carol

PS: I am a fitness for duty technician at a decommissioning nuclear power plant....a pretty much full time mom and I am also hoping to get into the goat dairy business....(I like to make cheese! Yikes is that a weird resume or what!)

[captxray]

Wow! That is quite a resume. What is a "fitness for duty technician at a decommissioning nuclear plant?" Just curious. Sounds like you want out of the "usual humdrum of daily living" to me! I have some friends who are in the dairy goat business out here in rural Oregon. They love it, but they don't seem to make much money. But, money isn't everything, that's for sure! Whatever turns your crank. I grew up on a small farm. We had a bunch of dairy goats. I especially loved to chase them all over the pasture and squirt the cats in the face at milking time. When my dad finally figured out the reason for low production was because I was chasing them all over the pasture and feeding half of the milk to the local cats, whose numbers kept growing and growing, to my youthful surprise, it all came crashing to a halt! I became the chief goat milker ("if you have so much fun milking the goats, it's now your job!"). For about twelve years I got up before the sun and milked goats. After my homework, I was again milking goats while other kids were playing. We had three nasty geese who used to creep up on me while I was busily milking so I could go out and play with the other kids. All of a sudden I would hear the telltale hiss and wham! One of them would bite my back! I got to where I was swinging those devilish birds over my head by their unbreakable necks and throwing them as far as I could. They never seemed to tire of their little game, either.

I have been drinking so much water, I think I'm floating up in my chair. Yeah, I figured it wasn't too good to last too long on this fast. Probably makes your kidneys look like a gravel pit! Kidney stones! Now, that's another story I won't bore you with.

Maybe you could figure out how to make your goat's milk glow with low amounts of nuclear waste...you know, not enough to hurt anybody. Boy! Just imagine the kids across North America eating the Wheaties most of them are allergic to and going to school with that "certain glow." HA! HA! Of course, I'm only kidding. I wouldn't wish Wheaties on my worst enemy!

[donnaj]

Glad to see that we our losing on the fast. I dropped another pound and now down to 165 lbs. I added a slice of tomato slice but today I will add a salad to my menu.

The rain has stopped but now it is snowing. I just go with the flow and do what I can. Carol, I bet it is fun to ride a snowmobile. Our climate is not that cold here. Carol, I bet your goat cheese is wonderful. I grow up drinking goat milk. I am lactose intorlant. I can drink small amount of milk but over 1/2 cup and I get sick.

Cataxray and Carol, you both sound like you have interesting jobs. I have a BA in counseling and rehab. but since the strokes I have lost allot of memeroy and as you can tell my spelling is gone.
I went back to school at 40 and graduate from Marshall University in 1998 with a 3.44 average. I would love to go back to get my masters but it would not be in counseling. It would probally be in social work. But I am 48 now and there in prospect of jobs in that field here in West Virginia. My husband is a diabetic and just recently been able to walk again. But, I am not sorry about getting my degree because it helps me in my daily life to cope with what every comes my way.

Cataxray, No I don't think it wrong in wanting your wife home with you. Me and my husband has been married for 28 years and we miss each other. My husband can not cook. He has tried but oh boy the mess. I think it is sweet that you love your wife that much.

Well friends, I am going to get started on finishing my spring cleaning and I well email this afternoon. I hope you two a must wonderful day.

Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Captxray and Donnaj,

A fitness for duty technician such as myself does drug and alcohol testing on new contractors coming in to the plant as well as random testing for employees. Just to keep everyone honest and safe....you don't want an alcohol impaired crane operator dropping a heavy load on anyone! So I do breathalyzer testing (just like the state troopers, and folks come to me and pee in a cup!) They call me the pee lady...LOL. Some might think it is a stange job, but it pays tremendously well, is only part time a few hours per week, and I get to meet some really interesting people from all over the world. The other great aspect of getting out of the house is I don't have to listen to Barney and Clifford and Sesame street for a few hours! LOL.

My husband is a control room operator at the plant as well. I met him when I worked in the engineering dept there 10 years ago, prior to the shutdown.....I lost my job at that time and went to work for six years at Vermont Yankee, which is an hour away from us.... FYI, for the entire ten years that I have worked at an atomic plant, I have never received one tiny bit of dose (radiation) ever....so contrary to popular belief, my "glowing" personality comes from within, not from the plant! LOL!!

Donnaj, cogratulations to you for overcoming those strokes and still continuing your education, you are a warm and wonderful lady and anybody would be lucky to have you as their social worker!

Hope you don't have too much snow, we had 12 inches, and it melted like crazy yesterday, (those snowmen didn't last!) There is still not enough snow for snowmobiling.....oh well, at least you don't have to feed them like the horses we have!

I went to the easter goat and lamb auction yesterday...it was a bout an hour away....I am such a lousy farmer....I feel bad for all the broken down animals that get sent there, and want to take them all home...of course I went knowing that most of the animals would become Easter and Passover dinners....oh well, you can't save them all.....at least I got an education on how it works, and how to plan my strategy next year when I (if) I want to buy....

I love my goats, they are all so different and sweet, my daughter does really well on the milk and I have a blast making cheeses, I think I finally found something that I really truly can enjoy for a long time....I am just starting looking into being a commercial dairy, but in Mass. the regulations are very restrictive...I figure I need about $50k to start up.....yikes I don't have that kind of $$...but it is my dream, and I don't plan on becoming rich....just happy in what I am doing...I think it would be great for my daughter to grow up on a farm....of course my husband who did grow up on a cow dairy farm, thinks I am nuts! We shall see.....Captxray do you friends who have a goat farm have a website? I am trying to talk to as many commercial folks as I can to see which way works the best!

Well enough of my rambling...better get out and feed all the critters....I swear the horses hear me when I wake up and can almost peer into the windows from the pasture......I look at them from the bedroom and then when I get to the bathroom....they are looking up at the window with pleading eyes!!!! Feed me!!

Take care my lo carbing friends, lets all stick with it today!
Carol

[captxray]

Donna J and Ranger! What a couple of interesting people you both are!! I've worked with many stroke victims, Donna J, as a psychotherapist, and I must say, you seem to be doing quite well. Imagine getting a college degree after something like that! Wow! I'm impressed with your fortitude and determination. That proves that this WOE will be a success for you, too. I, too am lactose intolerant and even a small bit of milk products makes me drive the porcelain steering wheel for about an hour. I can take half a bottle of Lactase and it doesn't even phase it. Goat milk was easier on me, as a child, but still made me sick until I finally realized that milk just wasn't for me. That's one reason why Neanderthin isn't that hard for me. It doesn't allow any milk product, or by-products, which is no big deal for me. The theory is; if you were naked with a sharp stick in the wilderness, what could you forage for food? therefore, anything processed isn't allowed. Only nuts, seeds, fruit, veggies, meat, fowl and fish, and monounsaturated fats (olive oil) are what I eat. I have no cravings, and when I get hungry the only way that I know I am hungry is that I feel weak.

My middle daughter is coming to see me this weekend! She's going to keep Dad company until Mom gets home. I'm so excited! We are probably just going to hang out and watch movies and laugh a lot, because I'm really pretty sick with this awful virus that is sweeping through Oregon like a sythe. I've been sick for almost four weeks and I'm sick of being sick!

Ranger...I know what you mean about the "Pee lady." I used to be a deputy sheriff and a probation officer and also worked in a boy's ranch. In all of those jobs, I got the privilege of doing pee tests. Wow! That's the way I like to spend the day! NOT!!!

I have a confession to make...I blew it again last night! I got home at about 10PM...tired, sick, worn out, and weak. I knew I must be hungry because I hadn't eaten since noon and that was only that can of kippered snacks. I made a strange concoction of ground beef, roast beef (leftover in fridge), mixed in with four eggs, and some of my home-made pesto. Up to this point, pretty good for the protein fast. Then, I had some frozen grapes, a small apple, and a bunch of dried prunes that I dried last summer...After I ate the last prune, I thought, "Now, what is wrong with this picture? Oh, no!!! I forgot about the fast!!!" Well, I lost another pound!!!

[Ranger]

Hi Captxray,

Sounds like whatever you did, it worked for you! Congrats...funny how it works sometimes isn't it?

I just went to the cheesemaking supplier today and got a fantastic deal on a cheese press, and she told me of a terrific deal on a commercial cheese process for sale...too bad it is $12K....I haven't established myself enough to invest that much....yet....hopefully I will be able to find a deal like that when I am ready.....oh well back to the kitchen to make some cheddar or gouda? we shall see....best of luck! Take care all!
Carol

[captxray]

I'm off to Spring Break. Won't be back for 9 days. It's tough, but somebody's got to take all this time off. I sure like to see people who are so enthused about life! Both of you seem to be real fun people. Ranger, extra good luck getting your little business going. Hope you find a cheese press to your liking! I think it's so neat that you are so excited about your goat milk, and cheese business. More power to your entreprenurial accumen!

Donna J, if you really want to go back to school for that master's degree, do IT! If going to school at one of the "regular colleges" is too tough a grind, timewise, why not try one of the "alternative colleges" that are all over the place (especially in California) where you can do all of the work at home and go to, maybe one two week seminar a year. It is all done at home and your life experiences can even get you some entrance credit. I'll bet you're even qualified for some sort of grant or scholarship, being as how you are a stroke victim. You just get them to send you the paperwork, there are rarely entrance exams...no GRE is needed, and voila! You're a graduate student! A lot of these schools are not accredited, but they are "approved" for qualifying you for licensure in your state as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. You might even contact the national associations of Licensed Clinical Social Workers and see what schools they could recommend to you. I think there is a good chance for you to get your dream...I mean it. That's what I did. I had a full time job as a probation officer in L.A. county, had a baby, and no way to go to graduate school, when I found out about this type of a school. It was also much cheaper and faster. I got my master's degree in less than 8 months, instead of the usual two or three years. I got my Master's Degree and then got my license as a California Marriage and Family Therapist. I have NEVER...That's N-E-V-E-R been asked if the school I went to was "accredited." All employer's seem to care about is that you have the master's degree in your field. I practice in Oregon without a license because they don't require a license to be a counselor in this two-bit, wild west, cowboys and indians state. They do want me to show evidence of my Master's Degree, though. I was well on my way to having my PhD in clinical psychology when my first wife left me and I went bankrupt. I had to drop out with only 6 chapters left in my dissertation and I would have had the degree. All of my coursework was done, my research was finished, everything...I would have been a clinical psychologist and been making around one hundred thousand a year, but, alas, it was not in my kharma. I became a therapist, instead, and actually think I like it a lot better than doing psychometric testing all day long, anyway. Besides, money sure isn't everything! My baby is now 25 years old, and I've never looked back. I have three other babies that are in their twenties, now...one is pregnant, one is working on her PhD at Scripps Institute, one is a Captain in the Air Force, and one is working on her PhD at University of Oregon. They are what life is all about. That's one of the main reasons I want to lose weight and be more healthy. I want to enjoy my family and grandkids. Life seems to get less complicated as I get older and realize that I'm never going to be famous, never going to be a millionaire, and probably won't make much of a mark on history. But, I am a Dad, with four wonderful daughters and a loving wife. What more could I truly ask for? See you in a week!

[Ranger]

Mornin' Captxray and Donnaj,

I believe you have said it all.....and you sound like a really great husband and father.....enjoy your spring break!

See you in a week...

Donnaj, he may have a point about one of those University without walls" programs, your life experiences count for a lot.
I hope you look in to it.
Carol

[donnaj]

Sorry, I didn't get to email yestersday. It was one of those days that everything went wrong. It didn't start that way. The only thing that was great I went down to 165 and today I could believe it that I am 163.5. Thank you whoosh fairy.

I wish I could go back but I didn't realize that I gave the impression that I got my degree after the stroke. No, I had the storke 3 years after I graduated. Now, since the stroke I have trouble with memory. :( I went to school so that I could help other people but I am lucky that I can still help. I work at food and clothing pantry and I am there for my friend if they need someone to listen to. My doctor still won't let me work yet. Stress caused me to have the first one plus my heritary cholestrol.
My right aurotola was 98% blocked when I had the first stroke. The doctor was very surprised that I finished my degree with the grades I had. I did have headache and days that I could remember anything.

I started adding items back and I think 2 days or maybe three is what I needed to get my weight started again. I even got into my size 12 dress for Easter.

Cataxray, have a great spring break. You sound like a great dad and father and I bet you are a very good therapist. I am so glad I have you and Carol as friends.

Well I have to get going and get ready for my volunteering at my church's food and clothes pantry.

Have a great lo carb day.

Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

Sorry you had a bad day yesterday, I was wondering where you were, but yahoo, 163.5! That is awesome...you have lost like almost 5 lbs in the past week or so....I guess you are jumpstarted again....doesn't it feel great to fit into special clothes? Yesterday I tried on my wedding dress and my husband could zip it all the way! It was a little snug, but I remember it being that way on my wedding day too! LOL!

I also found a pair of black jeans that I wore the first time I did Atkins before my daughter was born...I tried them on and I could get them up but couldn't zip them......they fit me when I was 180 lbs the last time....so I have 15 more lbs to go before I fit into the "goal" jeans....just another incentive to keep pushing! Of course, compared to what people are wearing these days, low cut, belly button hangin' out, torn bell bottoms......they are horribly out of style...oh well....I don't really need anyone to be peering at my belly button anyway!!!!

So I haven't lost for 2 days, but haven't gained either...planning to do my workout tape again...funny when my DH is home from work, I feel self concious about doing it....with me jumping around the living room and rattling all the pictures off the walls! Yikes....

Can't wait until Tom is gone...then hopefully more weight will be gone too....

Well, I have to go work on a batch of Gouda cheese....I love this cheese stuff.....

Donnaj, your church is lucky to have you help with so many things...God bless, I am lucky to have you for a friend too....Thank you,
Carol

[donnaj]

Carol,
Wow, I know what you mean about fitting into clothes that you haven't worn for a long time. My wedding dress was destroyed in a fire right after we were married but I would have to anexeria again to wear it and it not worth getting sick again. I am glad you could get into your. What did your husband think? I bet he was very proud of you and had love in his eyes.

I have never eaten gouda cheese. What do you use it with? I am not very knowledgable about cheeses. I need to try some different cheese. I wil look at the store and see what they have.
I think it is great that you love what you do and hope that you can get your business started soon. Do you sell your cheese and how much do you charge for it?

Carol, I am so glad your my friend too and I know that we can do this together.

Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

It was really fun trying on my wedding gown again....it is kind of funny, I was so busy and rushed at our wedding, I really didn't get to play around in it at all....yesterday I was spinning around and stuff like a little kid....my daughter thought it was great! My husband I think, was kind of happy that it fit again!

Gouda is a Dutch cheese, it is usually round and wrapped in a red wax coating....the goat cheese comes out very white, where if it was made with cow's milk it would be a yellow gold color...right now most of my hard cheeses are "experiments" I can make an excellent chevre which is a french style soft goat cheese, (kind of like a cream cheese texture) It can be eaten plain, spread on crackers, used in baking, (cheesecakes) in omelets, etc. Very versatile...so far people love this one the most. I mix in herbs, like dill, garlic and cracked pepper, basil and sun dried tomatoes, caraway seeds, chives etc. It is really good rolled in chopped fresh basil from the garden in the summer.....

Legally I cannot sell my cheese until I actually have a commercial dairy in place...the laws are very strict in Massachusetts...but I have given a lot away as gifts so far and I always take a platter to pot luck suppers in town and church....that way I can get a feeling for what people like and dislike....When I go commercial, I can probably sell my chevre for about $5 per 6 ozs...if I decide to try producing completely organic cheese, I could probably get more, but I have to figure all that out down the road...

So far, other cheeses I have made are cheddar, feta, mozzarella, and ricotta, Ziegerkase(Alpine goat cheese) camembert and lemon cheee....it is an addictive hobby with yummy results....the best part is, it is on my diet!!!
I read a lot on the subject and seem to learn more about it every day...it certainly keeps me off the streets! The whole process is very time consuming.

Well time to get to bed...talk to you tomorrow!
Take care,
Carol

[captxray]

I need a break! Spring Break was nothing but "honey-do" projects. I'm worn out! I got to see my daughter..twice! My wife went to Idaho and visited another daughter who is pregnant for a week. I wish I could say that i was ready to be back to wrk, but I wish i could have had a bit of a break! I did mediations for about half of the "break." God! I really hate being in the same room with some of the angry people I have to mediate! I told one guy, who was trying to lord himself over his ex that I was stopping the meeting because he just wouldn't shut up and let her have a word in edge-wise. However, I got to go on a few motorcycle rides (two with my daughter, who thought it was a blast!). The weather suddenly got really beautiful. Today, it is about 70 degrees! I guess that's why I love living on the west coast. Well, cheese lady! How are the goats? Both of you are still losing? I maintained over the break. Actually, I think I may have actually lost something, but it's not showing up on the scales, yet.

[Ranger]

Hi captxray!

I know what you mean....sometimes you need a vacation from a vacation!

Things are slow for me in the weightloss dept....I fell off the wagon over Easter and haven't weighed in since....I'm too chicken! Well back on induction for me.....I bought a new goat on Saturday, a beautiful 2 week old French Alpine....we named her Maple Cream....our Emma, was just getting fat and decided that she wasn't really pregnant......so she is lo carbing it with me now!
LOL....
Take care,
Carol

[captxray]

Now, how does a goat LC? Has she been into the molasses and oats more than one would want their goat to be? Bad Goat! Man! That brings back happy memories! When I was kid, we would often raid the oats and molasses and eat them, ourselves. Might be one reason I have a weight problem now...HMMMM...I wonder...

I stuck to my WOE for the entire Break and didn't lose an ounce! I'm back to one of those plateaus we've all read about and experienced. I've been maintaining now, for about two weeks. It's about time for another five pound weight loss...then back up a couple of pounds to maintain for another two weeks. At least I know the way my body works, now. It's still a bit disconcerting, though. Where's DonnaJ? I hope she's alright.

[donnaj]

Thank God things are getting back to normal again. I have been good and I am staying at the same weight. Oh well, I am like you catxray. I am thinking about going back on our fast for two days to see if that well break it. Easter was so busy, I really did haven't had time to overeat. I am glad you had a good break.
I am glad you had a good Easter Carol. I wanted the Easter candy so bad but my husband kept a watch on me and I made it. I am going to make some bread. I bought some vital wheat gluten flour. My sister said it was great. With only 3 carbs, I think it is a great treat. Well guys, I need to go and get the dishes done but I will be here tomorrow .
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

So glad to hear from the two of you! I'm thinking that this fasting thing is a good idea for a couple of days, too. Maybe that will break up the globs of disgusting fat and get them on the move out of me,again. Keep up the great work. Thank God for your husband, DonnaJ. You know, a goat eats pretty much LC all of the time, unless we feed them grains. I mean grass isn't high carb, is it?

[Ranger]

Yes captxray, no more sweet feed for poor Emma....I think she is kind of ticked at me! These goats really do have personality! I think she was too chunky at breeding time to conceive, it is actually a pretty common problem with goats....I have had a wicked headache since Easter....and I finally realized it is probably from eating all that high sugar junk, and now I am in withdrawal again....yikes....I ate some more chocolate today....I know it is wrong, but I do it anyway, then I feel like a creep.....argh.....

I put all the hubby's and daughter's easter candy in one basket and he is putting it away somewhere tonight so I can't get it....isn't that ridiculous?

I think I will try the protein fast again for two days starting tomorrow and see if I can't get back in the swing of things.....of course my daughters birthday is Friday and we are having a kids party on Sat. and the family party on Sunday.....no cake! No frosting!!! I have to do this! I am just in a rut...

Well, enough of my complaining.....shall we do the protein fast together? The three musketeers! (not refering to the candy bar of course) What do you think?
Donnaj, you are awesome sticking to it with all that food and company. Your DH is a prize! (Mine is too, but he never talks to me about food, but he is also very supportive of this woe)

Take care you two,
Carol

[captxray]

:hyper:
I love it! What day should we all start? This will be great! I love to get the extra support when I'm starting something like this. I actually think I'm holding a bunch of water, too. My hands are all swollen and my feet don't feel too good in my shoes. See? Men hold water, sometimes, too. I actually gained a couple of pounds, yesterday even though I stayed religiously on the eating plan. It's kind of discouraging, but I have concluded, long ago, that I would never return to my old WOE or WOL, so this is just a small bump in my road to better health.

Poor little goat! I'll bet she feels quite deprived. She'll be better because of it, though. And, maybe a mom, next year.

[donnaj]

I would love to do the fast again. How about starting Monday. I will weigh myself Sunday and post and I think I will even do my measurements and see if it affect inches also. It is so much better to have support doing this. Carol and catxray, I have been faithful to my plan but I ate some low carb bread yestersday and I notice I feel different. So let us do it and get back on track.
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

:roll:
Okay, Monday, it is!! How many days should we do this thing? Do I just eat protein? I have this one major weakness...I love fruit! I can't even have one prune, or apple, or piece of pineapple or I will not be able to stop! I seem to be back in the losing mode, but I'm still 2 pounds heavier than I was last week. So, I'm ready to take the plunge with you two!!

[Ranger]

Monday sounds good for me too....although I tried to start yesterday. I was fine until lunch and we stopped at Wendy's and I had a great salad? DUh, what about my protein fast? It totally slipped my mind....oh well, at least I stayed under 20 grams of carbs like on induction......today I was down 3 lbs....but of course I was up 5 whole stinking lbs from my Easter binge.....hardly worth it...I am still at 197 and hope to get down below 195 this week......come on whoosh fairy!

Lets plan on Monday.....ok?
Carol

[captxray]

I'm starting on Monday, then. Good luck to us all! Leaving for the weekend. Hope to read about your successes...until then...Happy Trails to you...

[seashell]

I'd like to do the protein fast...I just am not sure how to do it! I saw that ya'll were starting today...somebody clue me in!

By the way Ranger...didn't you say that your goat was due anyday now or has she already had it?

[donnaj]

Good morning are you ready for our two day fast. I am. I weigh this morning and I weigh in at 162.5. I was going to measure myself but I could find the tape. I will get to you today. I am glad to see Seashell in with us. Seashell, the protein fast is eating allot of protein. Carb count should be as low as you can get to 0. Here is what I plan to eat today.
Breakfast: sausage and eggs, coffee
Snack: water
Lunch: Fried chicken, ice tea
Snack: water
Dinner: Fried chicken with roast beef , ice tea
Snack: water
I try to drink at least 128 oz of water to flush out the protein. The first day is kind of hard but the second day your energy will be out of sight. Just like when you first started Atkins.
Well I am going to try to finish answering my email. I hope everyone a great day and well check back this evening.
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

:wiggle:
Ready, set, go! I told my wife that today is the day. Hopefully, she will remember to not make me any veggies. Yesterday, I was finally back to the spot I was at two weeks ago. This morning, I was one pound over what I was two weeks ago. I'm ready for this thing to break the fat globules loose! Whoosh Fairey! Come and get this fat!!!

Ray

[Ranger]

Hi all,

I have not started out very well.....it is 2 pm and I have yet to eat anything today! Yikes, better go hit the leftover turkey from the party......and I will drink some more too....I usually only drink about a 1/2 gallon, but I will try to drink more today!

Glad you could join us seashell, my goat never did have her babies...so I guess she is lo carbing with us too...LOL. I have another goat that is due, the 24th or 26th....so it will be soon...she is enormous, so hopefully all will go well.

I am still up a lb...so I will be psyched if I can get below 195 with this fast....we can do it!

Carol

[captxray]

Ranger, I was thinking...If your about to have a couple of more kids, does this mean you're a mom? Ha! HA!

I am committed to this thing. I'm also getting rid of the scale. To heck with it! If this is a WOL what do I need a scale for? "Normal" people aren't always watching the scales. Do hunters and gatherers in Australia watch the scale? NO! Are they fat? No! There! You see? If we quit watching and worrying about the scale, we will all lose weight and get down to our "regular" selves. I don't know about you, but I have followed the rises and falls of the scales for years. What has it gotten me? About 150 lbs of excess flab, that's what!

Proof! Scales are what has made us fat! Well, maybe that's a bit extreme...but, see my point? Ha! My scale is going to become a fat frisbee at the dump. I'm going to watch it sail into the trash heap! HA! HA! HA! (that's meniacal laughter). Protein fast, here I come...Eat that Protein
Get less fat!
No to veggies!
That's where it's at!

[Ranger]

Hi captxray....I prefer to think of myself as a goat "auntie"...although our new baby thinks I'm her mom...cause, I always have the bottle of formula...she nearly attacks me whenever I head out to the barn....

I liked your poem....very true.....I should throw out my scale too, but I just bought a new fancy one....cause my old one was broken...damn thing kept going up and up and up!!! (Just kidding).

I like to look at the scale cause it makes me feel so good when it moves down.....of course, I just totally deny that it ever goes up!!! I fly to the computer to change my profile when I have a loss, but can't seem to bring myself to change it when it goes up!
:rolleyes: oh well, I love the sound of saying I lost 30 lbs since New Years....today I was totally late for work, and never bothered to put on a jacket...some people I see every week stopped me and couldn't believe how much I had lost....they said I was always covered up by my big jacket, and now it was really visible to them.

That made me feel great.....those are the comments that keep me going. I still see pictures of me and cringe....it is hard for me to see that 30 lbs is gone...(I take awful pictures!)

I was so late today, I didn't eat breakfast, and ate nothing but water until 2 pm....I know you are supposed to eat small meals all during the day, but it just didn't work out so far.

Today I have had: about 8 ozs. leftover white turkey with homemade feta cheese melted on top.

For dinner I had about 1/2 of a leftover roasted chicken with a little 0 carb Thai/lime dipping sauce.

So far, I have had about 60 ozs of water....but plan to have more.

I will probably have some smoked mozzarella as a snack.....

The two leftover birthday cakes keep calling my name! But I can resist...(actually I am making DH bring them to work with him tomorrow....so I won't be able to hear them anymore!!!LOL)

Hope all of you are sticking with it....one day down, one to go!
Good luck.....good bye weight, hello whoosh fairy!
Carol

[captxray]

Ranger! Did you just have a birthday and did I know this and forget it? I am fifty-five today, so now that I am officially a "senior citizen" I may be having a "senior moment." The kids are driving me insane in school, today! Teenagers! I love them, but can't stand them, at the same time...does that make sense? I'm old! I'm fat! I'm tired! I need a break! Enough feeling sorry for myself! I have a terrible thing to admit...I weakened last night and raided the fridge at about 10PM and ate five (5) prunes that were in the freezer! Consequently, I didn't lose a pound, an ounce, or anything! And, Yes, I weighed myself and haven't tossed the scale...yet...It sits in the bathroom lurking and waiting for me like a cat waiting for a mouse! I did so good, too! Then, a moment of weakness and poof! I'm starting again today. Oh, no! I forgot and ate a bunch of melon at break that another teacher brought for me instead of cake! It was so nice of her, and I totally forgot about my protein fast! What's wrong with me? Okay, okay! I'll start it from here...I sure hope the rest of you are doing better than I am! This is embarrassing!

[Ranger]

Happy Birthday captxray!!!! Now you can officially join AARP, Right? Just teasing you! No, I didn't have a birthday, but my 3 yr old daughter did on Friday......age is how you feel, and sometimes I feel really old!!!! Jimmy Buffett has a line in a song, "wrinkles only go where the smiles have been..." I am living by that motto!!

Don't beat your self up about the prunes...for goodness sake....you only had a couple, and they were only prunes, good healthy dried fruit...not processed sugar, or a banana split...right? The great thing about this is everyday is a new beginning.....I'll talk more later, I have to run off to work!
Carol

[captxray]

:spin:
I'm already a member of AARP...you can join that when you're 50. But, now, I'm eligible for all of the discounts and special deals you get when you have blue hair...or no hair...that's getting to be my case. It's just that I hate to admit I'm so old. What you said is true! Most of my wrinkles are smile wrinkles. I guess that's a good thing, huh?

[Ranger]

I just turned 40 in december....it was kind of big for me, since I always felt I was a kid....like 18......the big 40 was one reason I embarked on this woe....been heavy all my life, and decided to be thin for the 2nd part of it....back to the protein!

I had turkey with some 0 carb dressing for brunch, and some cheese so far today....smoked mozzarella...yum, I am going to try to make some of it myself....drinking lots of water too....looking forward to the scale tomorrow to see if I actually make it back down to 195...hopefully lower!

Take care,
Time to go out to the barn....lots of hungry noises coming from that direction!
Carol

[donnaj]

Sorry I haven't been on line. The computer has been down :( .
Happy belated birthday catxray :bday: and you are right about the scales. I need to start weighing in about once a week. I get on the scales and if it has gone up I feel bad the rest of the day.
I have been faithful to the fast and I have only lost one lb but it started the ball rolling again and that what I wanted it to do.
Carol, I know what you mean about birthday cake calling your name. It was the m&m's that called my name overt Easter and I send all the sweet home with my relatives. It has helped. Well friends, Pray that are car will be back today. It has been in the shop since Friday and we our running out of food. I can't wait to get some meat in the house. I am getting tired of chicken.
I am proud of both of you. It just prove that when you have friends you can do anything. Do you both want to stay for a couple more days or go back to Atkins? I am welling to do it for a couple more days.
Have a great spring day!!!!!
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Good to hear from you Donnaj, congrats on the weightloss.....I actually lost another lb, but now I am legitamately at 195 again....that Easter Binge really set me back.....

I have been faithful to the protein fast today as well...so another couple of days should be ok.....I think before you mentioned that we weren't supposed to do this for too long, but I really want to get out of the 190's....actually my small term goal is to get to 50% of my goal....I've been at 46% for too long!

The cake is sealed up in Tupperware and no longer calling to me....but my animals are....it is so nice to have long days now, I end up putting off my chores until late.....I plan on setting up a seed starting table with lights in my basement this evening....to get some seedlings to plant by the end of May....early June.

Hope all is well with you too captxray!

Seashell, did you stick with the protein fast?

Take care all,
Carol
We can do this together! :wave:

[seashell]

:( UMMMMM...welllll, I haven't been doing that well...I guess I just need to get good with the induction I guess...I might have to try the protein fast after I'm doing well on the induction...thanks for asking...btw ranger...any new stories???

[Ranger]

Hi Seashell,

Don't worry about it.....the weight will come off...induction is great it always jumpstarts me too....I stuck with the protein fast again yesterday, but the scale didn't move...ok..it looks like the line is on the down side of 195, but not quite 194....so I am not going to change the ol' profile yet.....come visit me whoosh fairy!!!! Please!

Oh well, I feel thinner anyway...my tight jeans are not so tight, I should try on the really tight ones.....for added incentive....not too much in the way of stories...the poor dog had a rough week though....on SUnday she got into a porcupine, not too bad though only about 15 or 20 quills in her nose....then she was teasing my horse when I was feeding them the other night, and I heard a whomp, then a yipe...and the horse had kicked her in the head....turns out she was ok, she had a little swelling on her cheek, but it was gone overnight....then DH had reconnected the electric fence that had been off all winter....now that we have the little goat, she keeps getting out of the fence...and nibbling at my flowers that are just coming up...(I don't want her to eat them, plus some plants are toxic to goats)

The poor dog ran smack into the wire fence and when yelping off around the far end of the house....poor Zoe, she doesn't know which end is up these days....last night when she went out to the barn with me....she just layed down in one side of the goat barn, and would'nt budge, she wouldn't go near the horse, or the fence....I practically had to drag her out of there......I guess she is kind of smart and learns from her mistakes! LOL

Well, got to run, the children's author Eric Carle, who wrote and did the artwork for several children's books is speaking at a school in the next town and autographing books....we have "The Very Hungry Caterpillar", so that should be nice.....then we are off to reserve some fruit bushes...blueberry, raspberry, currants and gooseberry....I love to make jams and jellies to give as gifts...actually I used to love to eat them too! Not any more! LOL
Take care,
Carol

[captxray]

:rolleyes:
I'm feeling kind of down. Nothing is working for me right now, because I'm not really working my program right now (I mean, the protein fast). I tried to stay on my fast yesterday and did really well...We had a huge all-staff meeting (about 70 people) at my work at a Shiloh Inn convention center. They catered the lunch...for free! I didn't eat any of it. I had my wife come for lunch and we went to a park and I ate cold roast beef! Ha! Then, later, they served everybody ice cream and apple pie! Ha! I turned it down and drank water, even though they had all of the coffee, tea, and soft drinks you could ever ask for. Then, they gave everybody a small package of peanuts, Cracker Jacks and two free movie tickets! I gave the peanuts (a large bag) and the Cracker Jacks away! Ha! I even went with my wife to a rib place, last night, and ordered "all you can eat beef ribs." This is good...but, then, I had three sides that I could have...what to do? What to do? Oh, well, I had a huge salad made out of lettuce, carrots, onions...and lemon with a sprinkling of salt as dressing. Then, I got home...did good...until late...went into the freezer, again! Ate four frozen prunes!!! Why?!! I'm so mad at myself! I got on the scale that I keep meaning to toss out and had gained a pound! Of course, the ribs were huge and I stuffed myself, so I might be heavier just because of that. But, I want to be lighter, NOW!!! I've been on this plateau forever! I need to lose some weight! I'm depressed! Incidentally, thank you, all for wishing me happy birthday...even though I am now as old as dirt! I guess it's better than the alternative...I guess I'm just feeling overly sorry for myself.

[captxray]

Poor Zoe!

Her day was definetly worse than mine was!

[Heather]

Captxray, you could have done so much more worse than eating 4 itty-bitty-frozen prunes. Look at all the other stuff you passed up! You did a great job!

I just came off a 6 week plateau, so I understand how you're feeling. Stick with it, you will see results in no time. Patience is the key here.

As far as being older than dirt, 'fuhget about it!' I've read some of your posts and you are quite energetic and give off megawatts of positivity.

By the way, have you read 'Native Nutrition?' It's right up your alley!

p.s. I'm going to transplant my seedlings this weekend.

[Ranger]

Hi captxray....I stuck with the darn protein fast now for 3 1/2 days and am still not below 195! Patience, I want patience and I want it now!!!...LOL, it stinks being on a plateau, and if you ate a bunch of ribs, that was probably the one lb....I never weigh myself after I eat, usually early in the morning, after I have gone to the bathroom and before I have a glass of water....can't have any extras throwin' off the scale! LOL

Heather was right, you turned down a ton of stuff, and had a few prunes....it will happen again....that whoosh fairy must be on vacation!

I'm sure Zoe would have switched with you....she loves ribs! She is so funny, she used get all hyper when I put on my barn coat....today I had to practically drag her out of the house, and she just sulked in the hay barn until it was time to go in...which of course was a disaster, cause my daughter tripped and fell behind my horse and he stepped back on both of her little legs....It was awful....our very first trip to the emergency room....all is well though, they didn't even feel like they needed xrays, she is limping pretty good though....I'm sure she will be sore for a few days.....she certainly tends to limp more when Mommy and Daddy are looking....it is unbelievable how they can manipulate at such a young age!

We can all do this together! (Darn it all....implied!)
Carol

[donnaj]

I am glad to finally be back on the computer. Wow I missed everyone. We finally got the car out of the shop. It took them 6 days to get the old girl back in running condition. Remember that flood we had last month here in West Virginia. Well, our car was flooded and now we had to pay $400. 00 to get everything fixed.
Ranger, Catxray, I stayed on the fast for two days and only lost 1 lbs. I have come to realize that our body well not move to lose
anymore until it is ready. I was hoping to lose at least 10 more pounds before going to the doctor in June. I am proud of all of us in staying with the fast. Catxray, I have been eating frozen strawberries and now I can stop. I go in the freezer and get a couple almost every night. I haven't gained so I well probally keep on eating them. So took be to hard on yourself. Our body knows what it needs and well tell us.
Ranger, I am glad your little girl is okay. Did you find your berries bushes? I have been thinking about finding some for my back yard. I have strawberries plants and would love to find some raspberries and blackberries.
Well everyone, I hope the good whoosh fairy well finally come out of hidding and visits us soon.
Donna :wave:

[seashell]

Didn't feel well yesterday, so I didn't post. I did however eat two pieces of toast...that's how terrible I felt! Then I felt even worse that I ate two pieces of toast! I'm feeling better today though! My hubby surprised me and took the day off to spend it w/me.

Ranger, what kind of dog do you have? We have a 10month old rottweiler (pushing 100 lbs named Merlin), a little mutt that we took in...she was sitting at our front door in the snow, shivering...her name is Zoe...and we just got another rottweiler from the animal shelter...we get to bring him home on Sunday,(he has to get "fixed") he's 10 wks old and we named him Zeus.

Well, I'm gonna head off here...ya'll have a great day!

[Ranger]

Yippee the whoosh fairy came last night! Down another lb. finally!
I suppose if I had stuck with it on Easter....it wouldn't have taken so long.....think I will actually have some carbs today....just a few.

Donnaj, those strawberries sound great...I did order my blue, and raspberry bushes and currants and gooseberries...it will probably take about 3 years to get a good crop of blue berries, and a little earlier I thing for the others.....I got them from Nourse Farms which is about 45 minutes from here. They have a huge mailorder business and ship them all over...the plants looked extremely healthy...you can order from Noursefarms.com. Prices seem to be reasonable...they come dormant/bare root. The lady told me to get them in the ground as soon as it can be worked so that is now....guess I have some gardening work to be done!
Glad to see you back with us!

Seashell, I hope you are feeling better....I know when I had the flu, I had the worst cravings for comfort food....it is ok....we are all human! The key is to get right back on it! Take care everyone!
Carol

PS: Zoe is supposed to be a purebred German Shepard, but she has a very light colored face, almost like a Husky....she was so different from the others in the litter, that is why we picked her....she ran into a stick in the woods last year so she had a bad eye...she is finally becoming a nice dog....or getting more mature, I should say.....I love her, she thinks she is a big baby and gets jealous when I pet the goats, and shoves her nose in to be scratched too! Ya got to love em!

[captxray]

Ranger, you have outdone yourself with that little daughter of yours! Poor little thing...getting stepped on by a horsey. I'll bet she is going to keep her distance, too. Pretty soon, you'll be the only one going to the barn! Donna, I wish I could eat strawberries! However, I am pretty allergic to them. I still break down and eat them, sometimes, and then pay for it, BIG TIME! However, my wife and I dried pineaplle, cherries, prunes, apples and...get this...zuchinni, last summer. I go to the freezer every night and get something out. The Zuchinni is great! My wife powdered it and I use it like flour in some of my made-up recipes. It actually adds body to the casseroles and stuff. I also use my little food processor on nuts and put them in my salad dressing and casseroles (fritattas).

Heather, thanks for sharing that about the six week plateau! I will keep at it and know that it will eventually come off. I was going to, anyway, but it really helps when somebody else has "been there, done that." "Native Nutrition.(?)" I haven't heard of that one. I will see if I can find it. I love to read things about paleo-type diets, or hunter and gatherer nutrition. Thanks, again!

Okay, okay! Enough feeling sorry for myself! I'm back on track, now! HA! HA! HA! I am going to put a cloth over my scales...It has been laughing at me every time I go into the bathroom. No more Mr. Nice Guy! I am in charge! Not some dang scale! I sure would like the Whoosh Fairey to come by, tonight and take about five pounds with her. That would sure show the scale, huh?

Hope you feel better over the weekend, Seashell! You have a nice husband...although, he may have been looking for a good excuse to stay out of work for a day! That was unfair, huh? I think he was being a great husband, and making the rest of us dolts look pretty bad. Don't feel bad about that toast...oh, go ahead and feel bad. Who am I to tell someone what to do? I know just how you felt, though. It's actually quite unproductive to feel bad about it, but it's hard to help, isn't it? Well, everyone...those of us who fell off the wagon...here it comes, again! Let's jump back on and ride this thing out!

One thing I've been doing again, is eating too much salt. My wife noticed it the other night. I'm going to try to cut down on that stuff over the weekend and see what happens.

[Ranger]

Yeah, captxray, we kind of like her.....she was a little more cautious today in the barnyard...nothing really slows her down!

Glad you are back on track and smiling again!

Gotta' run, take care!
Carol

[donnaj]

First things, Wow!!! What a beautiful child. Ranger she is beautiful. I am sorry to hear about her accident but glad it didn't keep her down. I have a confession, friends. I ate a pint of frozen strawberries last night. I could believe it. I was reading a good mystery and did realize I had eaten the whole bags. Oh, I hate to get on the scale. But, I went back to straight low carb food today and see if I can get rid of my binge. I am glad to hear Heather that there is light after the stall. Thanks for sharing your story. I am cleaning house and laundry so I have to keep this short but I hope everyone has a great low carb day.
Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Hi Donnaj,

Glad you are back....I wouldn't worry about the berry binge....if you think about it, a few extra berries...is nothing compared to say a banana split? So I guess if you are going to binge, at least they are lo carb....I find that if I go overboard with anything, I just drink lots and lots of water to wash it away!

Your nephews' surgery is coming up soon, right? I hope all goes well for him and your family....We will say prayers and think of you all often.

I have found that it is hard to get off of this protein fast....the weight is starting to come off again, and it seems now when I add carbs, I get stalled out, so I am really sticking below 10 grams a day if I can....I am hoping to lose about 8 lbs so I can fit into a certain dress, for Mothers' day, when my brother in law is being ordained as a priest......that might be too hopeful, but I will give it a go....the good thing is, now the weather is so nice, I want to be outside working in the gardens all day, so I don't even think about food or snacks.....that will help too.

I have a feeling, I won't be posting as much when I am outside all day.....it is easy to sit at the computer in the winter!

Take care,
Carol

[captxray]

:rolleyes:
I spent the entire Saturday moving my office across town with my wife. We were worn out after the move. Although, it's a much nicer office in the best office building in town! I'm really happy with it, but that's another story. Anyway, after working hard moving all day, I took my wife to the best Chinese restaurant in town...first time I've gone off the WOE in 3 1/2 months...I gained 5 POUNDS!!!! AGH!!! I knew I would, but I didn't seem to care...until the next morning when I weighed myself...and...It hasn't come off after two days!!! Oh, well. I'm back on the wagon, now. I thought that maybe going off for a night would stimulate me to start losing, again...talk about rationalization, huh?

It was a beautiful week, last week. Then, this morning we woke up to snow on the ground! There go the beautiful flowers, and Spring blossoms! It was starting out to be the prettiest Spring in many years. That's the problem with living on the east side of the Cascades. People around here say, "If you want to know the weather in Klamath Falls, just wait five minutes. It'll change that fast."

Well, I'm off to be better and back to my WOL and WOE.

[Ranger]

Hi captxray,

I am willing to bet that the Chinese food you had was loaded with MSG, monoSODIUM glutamate...(I love it too!)

You have probably gained some water weight, try to drink, drink, and drink some water to see if it helps "whoosh" it away!
You can do it!
Carol

[captxray]

I've been drinking water like a fire truck! Still hanging onto that five pounds! They insist that they don't use MSG, but I'm very allergic to it and I know that they do use it. I really stuck to the program yesterday, and didn't lose a thing! I know that it will take some time, so I'm just working at it and know that it will come off in due time. About every three or four months I do this. You'd think I'd learn, but it just comes out of the blue and I lose my ability to be resistant...even though I have no cravings for anything other than what I'm supposed to eat. It's kind of hard to comprehend. I will stick it out because, after 44 pounds, I know that I will eventually start to lose, again. It is pretty dumb to get discouraged now! Besides, this is a WOL and I don't intend to go back to my old ways. Using that point of reference, it doesn't really matter when the weight comes off, because I know it will. It's just that I had planned to be down around 200 pounds for the end of July for my hike into the High Sierras with my brother. I don't think I'm going to make it unless I really start to lose, soon! As soon as the SNOW clears (!), I will begin an outdoor exercise program, including riding my bike the 8 miles to work at least three days a week and other outdoor activities. The weather is supposed to start cooperating this weekend, according to the weather man (who is rarely right). Something's got to work! Obviously, my flawed idea of eating the wrong foods to stimulate the end of the plateau didn't work!

[Ranger]

It sounds like you have the right attitude...there is no turning back now! Plus you have a goal in mind to be in shape for your hike...the High Sierras....that sounds wonderful....we are having some strange weather....today it was about 85 degrees! Yikes everything is greening up almost overnight....I brought my daughter to our town lake to play in the sand and go on the swings, and some kids were already swimming! Now the water was pretty darn cold, and I like cold water.....we still had ice on the lake just one week ago.....how is that for a turnaround in the weather.....only trouble is, it is too hot now to do stuff....I have plenty of gardening work and yard work....but I'm not used to 85!
Holy Moly!

We can do this together!!! Good luck, I will share the whoosh fairy with you....I finally broke the 50% mark....so I'm on the downward slide to my goal! I am hoping by the end of the year, but that might be too much to wish for......

See ya, good luck in the new office!
Carol

[captxray]

:cheer: :angel: :hyper: :wiggle: :yay: :dazzle: :lol: Way to go, Carol!!!! 51% Yea! Yeah! What a great thing...on the downward slide...it's not going to be long, now!!!

[donnaj]

Carol, congratulation on being 51% that is wonderful.

Catxray, I am sorry I haven't been much encouragement lately but like Carol said you sound like you have the right attitude. I have a confession too. I ate a pint of strawberries and have gained three pounds. Now I am working to get it off. By the way, we visit your state and I fell in love with it and Washington. I wanted to move but my husband said it was to darn cold. We was up in July and stayed close to a logging camp. I really enjoyed it.
Carol, I have to say again how cute your little girl is. I hope she had a good time at the lake.
Well friends, I have been busy working getting everything orgainized here for my nephew's surgery. When I make it home on my shift. I will email both you and catxray. You will probally be the only thread I will answer while he goes through this. I have been making low carb foods to take with us and trying to get my husband enough food laid in. He will not cook so I am making cakes and pies and cookies for him. By the way is low carb but he does not know it. :D I have missed you both. Please keep in your prayer. His surgery is next Friday so I will be able to correspond until then.
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

:wave: Well, Donna... Have a safe trip and good luck with LCing while you're away from home. Wow! A pint of strawberries did that! Even I didn't experience my body being that uncooperative. Bad body! Bad! Bad!

[donnaj]

Thanks catxray, His surgery is next Friday. I am fixing things to bring with us to the hospital. I am having trouble eating right now I broke my denture. My front tooth fell out last night. Hey, it might be a new fast to start losing. Here is what I plan to eat today.
Tuna salad
Water
protein shake
Water
Tuna salad

I let you know tomorrow if it work. Well I hope you have a great low carb day. Remember together we can to all things.
Donna :wave:

[captxray]

:cool: If you don't lose with that, I'm giving up!!! Incidentally, I am within one pound of what I was down to before the Chinese Restaurant fiasco...tonight I'm taking my wife to the rib place...all you can eat...and all I'm eating is ribs, ribs, ribs!!! HA! HA! HA! This is great!

We need to get the whoosh fairey and the tooth fairey over to your house, pronto! What a bummer! I've been very fortunate in not having to get any dentures....yet...my former wife had them all over her mouth...it was a real pain. I feel for you. It's a major hassle. Good luck! Safe trip!

I've eaten some olives (green) and some SPAM (Smoked flavor-YUUUUUUK!)...yukky, poo poo! Now, I'm eating cold corn beef...out of the can...Sugar is #5 in the ingredients and according to Overeaters Anonymous and Weight Watchers, that's supposed to be alright. Ray Audette, In his book, "Neanderthin," says it's okay, too...we'll see. Of course, I'm not real fond of this cold canned corned beef, either!

[Ranger]

Hi guys,

Poor Donna, it must be a pain with a missing tooth....what kind of protein shake do you use....I bought some atkins ones, and they are gross.....I have about $50 worth of yukky atkins products filling up my shelves....

Ribs, ribs, ribs! Sounds great, (I think I am starting to drool...)
Have fun tonight!

Do you have any problems with the salt in the canned meat products?....I have sworn off salt....and even the canned chicken for chicken salad with 250 mgs of sodium, seems wicked salty to me....

Oh well out to the critter barn!

Take care you two!
Carol

[captxray]

:cool:
I am oblivious to the salt...well not really....It might be one of the reasons I'm not losing like I'm supposed to. Canned meat is very high in salt. OOOOPS! Gotta go! School is over! the kids are all leaving without my permission! AHG!

[donnaj]

Carol, I buy a brand called Carb Solution frow Walmart. It is really great tasting. I use 2 scoops for only 3 carbs. I make peanut shakes and strawberry shakes. I had one today and it was great. I have been eating very soft foods tody. I had sausage and eggs for breakfast, shake for lunch and sausage and eggs for supper. I looked around for denture repair and the lowest cost is $70 so next week I will get it fix. No money at this time.

Well, I better go for now but I hope everyone have a great evening and a great low carb weekend.

Donna :wave:

[Ranger]

Well, captxray, so much for all my lo salt advice...today, I had salted peanuts....about 1/3 of a can....I seem to really crave it sometimes....don't dare go on the scale tomorrow...I just have to drink that h20!

Hi Donna, I love the carb solution bars, so i will have to try the shakes too....they would be nice as a treat in the summer....(I just love(d) goin out for an ice cream on a hot night.....oh well, I will have to come up with some lo carb splenda type ice cream concoction...I have a ton of goat cream in the freezer, so maybe I will do some experimenting.....

My Lizzie goat is showing signs of early labor, so I'm sure the minute my head hits the pillow, I will hear her on the baby monitor! I will keep you guys posted.

Take care, my fellow protein fasters!
Carol

PS: I hope you get those teeth fixed soon! You will need a pretty smile for your next Progress report photo!

[doreen T]

hi everybody,

I've been lurking now and then, and reading along how you folks are doing. :thup: This thread has grown from just a question and answer thing about protein fasts, to become a wonderful journal of all your progresses and daily struggles. I've moved it to the Group Journals forum for you, and hope you all continue on with your journeys and sharing.

Donna, sorry about that tooth, hope you can get it repaired soon. Carol, I posted a slew of home-made lowcarb ice cream and sherbet recipes in the Kitchen forum ... let me go hunt 'em up for you .............. Here ya go, they're in the Sweet Treats section ...http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6730. They're from Fran McCullough's LowCarb Cookbook, and are made in a food processor, so no need for a fancy ice cream machine.

Take care all :)

Doreen

[donnaj]

Carol, Thanks I will be getting them fix shortly. I ate a whole skillet of taco meat filling and it had allot of sodium. I am retaining water today so I am afraid the picture will have to wait but I promise I will send another one soon. I hope everything goes will with the goat. I love animals especially baby ones. We have been thinking about getting a new kitten. I am trying to hold my husband off until after Cody surgery and recovery. I spend the day with him and he is such a joy. I thank God every day for my neices and nephews. And now my great ones. I hope you get some rest. By the way, some one kidnapped that darn whoosh fairy again. Have you seen here?

Thanks Doreen and thanks for the ice cream recipes. I will be trying them shortly with the weather getting hotter.

Well everyone have a great low carb evening.
Donna :wave: