HoserLC
Tue, Feb-10-04, 20:22
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_021004/content/cutting_edge.guest.html
wsgts
Tue, Feb-10-04, 20:41
He tried, but he has a point. He didn't get into the PETA PCRM link, but did pose the question.
One day, despite his best effort, Dr. Dean Ornish will die. When he dies (not if), I wonder if the whole world will let him rest in peace, or if they will say it is diet related. Let's not even think about Dr. Weil, who is so obese you wonder how he ever got a wellness guru title, and when he dies, will he it be diet related?
I doubt it on all counts. No one has yet to develop a diet makes anyone live forever.
Later,
wsgts
SisterT
Wed, Feb-11-04, 10:38
Well, today, Rush is all over this and he is bringing up the PCRM (PETA) connection.
reversengr
Wed, Feb-11-04, 11:10
And he's mad as hell about it :devil:! Hopefully, all this exposure will backfire on the PCRM and expose them for what they really are!
moe146
Wed, Feb-11-04, 11:15
For the first time EVER, I actually agree with Rush Limbaugh! :agree:
pd Rydia
Wed, Feb-11-04, 11:24
For the first time EVER, I actually agree with Rush Limbaugh! :agree:
That smiley is scaring me. :[
But yeah, this (Rush defending Atkins and all) is rather nice.
katwoman
Wed, Feb-11-04, 11:39
Not a Limbaugh fan--but at least he questions the truth of reports instead of blindly following the crowd--which seems to be what most of the media does.
kyrasdad
Wed, Feb-11-04, 12:46
I'm of the same mind...I don't agree with Rush that often, and even when I do, I'm offended at the way he presents himself.
However, if I had a choice between the opinions of Rush and the liars in PCRM, I'd have to say megadittos. At least when it comes to low carb. :)
FrecklFluf
Wed, Feb-11-04, 13:09
Okay, Rush just went up a little bit on my respect-o-meter.
mrfreddy
Thu, Feb-12-04, 15:13
he's still at it, read this... it's a bit incoherent, but I guess it was just an extemporaneous rant...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_021104/content/cutting_edge.guest.html
RUSH: “The debate over Dr. Robert Atkins' high fat, low carb diet flared posthumously Tuesday over news that Atkins himself weighed 258 pounds at his death though the reasons for his bloated condition were immediately disputed. A physician's group highly critical of the diet, released details of a city medical examiner's report [to which they had no right, to which they had no right to see or possess] after Atkins' 2003 death which showed that the six-foot doctor was at a weight normally considered obese. The group claimed the Atkins…” The group is a fraud! This whole story is a fraud because the group is a fraud. And this is the point.
“The group claimed the Atkins diet led to weight and heart troubles for the 72-year-old Atkins but his allies countered that he had gained more than 60 pounds through fluid retention in the eight days he spent in a coma before dying last April.” Don't make me tell you how I know this is true, don't make me tell you how I know it can happen. I'm just going to tell you I've seen it in my own family. Don't make me tell you any more. But this is all such a crock. “Physicians for Responsible Medicine, the group that released the report [to which it had no right to possess] and promotes a vegetarian diet acknowledged that fluid retention may have been responsible for some of Atkins' weight gain, but probably not all.”
Well, what is this probably? How did you even give them credit as a source, Associated Press? You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. These people are nothing much more than a bunch of partisan activists posing as doctors, they're a bunch of kooks from the animal rights community, they possess a man's medical records illegally and you're giving them credence. What do you have against this diet, what does it matter to you how people lose weight? What the hell business is it of yours? People aren't dying because of this diet or any other diet. People are dying because people die, and they die for a whole lot of reasons. Atkins died because he slipped on the ice. Some people die because they reach 50. Some people die because they reach 85. Some people die. I guess some people don't die. And so we've got to look into why people are dying. Life expectancy in this country is skyrocketing, even with the Atkins diet.
I'm reading a book. Started a book last night, The Greatest Game Ever Played. It's about Francis Ouimet, the amateur who won the U.S. Open at Brookline in the early 1900's against the greatest player in the world, Harry Vardon from Great Britain. This is not a golf story. The cast of characters is listed and the dates of their birth and the dates they died. These are all people born in the mid-to-late 1800's. They died in the early to mid-early 1900's, and for some reason I started adding up how long these people lived. It was an exception if any of these guys was over 50 when they died, 55. Today the life expectancy is approaching 80, and we've got all these… I was going to use the name of a bodily orifice. I caught myself in the nick of time because of the FCC hearings going on in Washington. But I'll tell you these people, these Cymers, that's exactly right, these Clymers just frost me, folks. These Clymers frost me to the point I'd need two Viagras to come alive. I cannot tell you how anger angry this makes me. I don't know Atkins, I don't know him from a pile of coal, he could have been the biggest liberal Democrat on the face of the earth, it doesn't matter to me. This is absolute crock. All did he was come up with a diet, this whole country we're attacking everybody that has any success at anything. It is kick-butt time for the people that are doing good, and it is make people who are risking us and putting us at risk, it's time to elevate them.
I interviewed him about his diet. I don't know what his politics are. I interviewed him twice for 30 minutes on the radio. I don't know Dr. Atkins, and I did this, you know, back in the seventies. But the whole culture that we're in here, we're celebrating all this guttural trash, or at least we're getting to the bottom of this now, we're celebrating a bunch of people who have screwed this country. We're now getting ready to coronate a guy like John Kerry and his whole political party, no, we're not going to coronate, the press is in the process of acting like we're going to coronate him.
These people are responsible for the situation in which we face with international terrorism. These people ran the country for eight years and did diddly squat. Now we got somebody in the White House who's putting it all on the line so save and protect this country. He's having success, and so, what, we've got to tear him down, we've got to kick his butt, we've got to kick Atkins' butt. Everybody is getting their butt kicked these days, and the people getting their butt kicked are the people we ought to be thanking for doing what they're doing. Instead we got to run around and destroy these people.
It's to the point now where it literally is p-ing me off. And I don't know what it is, I haven't really gotten to the bottom of it yet what it is about this Atkins business, but there's something about this that's just unseemly and I know that it wouldn't have gotten off the dime were it not for the cooperation of a willing press who, for some reason has its own bias against a doctor. A diet doctor, a guy who was trying to help people, which is what I thought the left claimed to own as a mantle, helping people.
What's even worse, now the guy is dead, can't defend himself, his poor widow is out there doing the best she can, but I mean the guy is being ridiculed and made fun of, his wife is being laughed at, his whole organization is being trashed. Meanwhile, his diet is so popular that big bread and big milk are all upset because their sales are down. Hey, Rush, don't you think that might be one of the problems? It could well be, I don't know. But I don't think so. I think it's the press and their typical association with environmentalist wackos, a bunch of loose-screw kook burgers, and now these PETA people, and, you know, there's a story in the stack here, these environmentalists have joined with the anti-immigration forces to oppose building a second fence down in the border area of San Diego in California. These leftist groups work together, folks, they don't tear each other apart and rip each other into shreds, the anti-immigration, folks, I'm sorry, the pro-immigration, folks, and the environmentalists are all working together to thwart the effort to keep illegals out of the country, and the press of course out there praising them for their civil rights devotion and their humanitarianism and so forth and these are the same people that consider themselves humanitarian who want to destroy a man who's dead. They were unable to do it when he was alive and now they're trying to do it when he was dead! Didn't do anything to anybody. He didn't do diddly squat to anybody.
I don't care if his diet is wrong, he didn't do diddly squat to anybody, people have a choice to do his diet or not. And now these people are trying to gin up all this scare and fearmongering, am I going to die on the Atkins diet? And there's probably an answer to what's going on in that question and that effort as well. I just had to get this off my chest. Get this, by the way. The medical examiner's report, to which these people are not entitled to see, or which they are not entitled to see nor possess, the medical examiner's report was not based on an autopsy but an external exam. There's no way these doctors, this phony doctor's group can possibly know what killed this man, they haven't seen an autopsy. You know why? There wasn't one!
They didn't do an autopsy, they've got a medical examiner's record of an external exam, and from that, from the simple fact of what he weighed they're off to the races and guess who are allied with them? The mainstream press, yip yip yip yip yahoo. "Ellen Borakove, spokesman for the medical examiner, declined to comment on the report. What she said was erroneously released to a doctor in Nebraska who requested it and apparently gave it to the vegetarian group." Why don't you call them who they are? They're PETA. Don't give me this vegetarian BS, name 'em! They're PETA! AP, if you don't have the guts to name 'em, I will, for crying out loud.
tholian8
Fri, Feb-13-04, 07:04
<checks out window to see if pigs are flying>
Never, ever in all my life would I have expected to agree with Rush Limbaugh on ANYTHING. Whaddaya know?
But he's absolutely right about the disgusting way the press has been all over this.
Emily
pd Rydia
Fri, Feb-13-04, 08:15
Just a little incoherent yes. o_o
Kristine
Fri, Feb-13-04, 08:27
I'm no Rush fan, but if he's helping to expose the PCRM as the "loose-screw kook burgers" ( :lol: ) that they are, more power to 'im.