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carlab68
Thu, Jan-22-04, 14:46
Ok there is this doctor that has articles in our local paper. I have written him before with his inaccurate statements about lc, but this one takes the cake. He has NEVER written me back even though I was nice and polite in my responses to him. So read this for yourself and if you feel inclined, send him an email. There is a link to email him at his site. I'm also making sure the Atkins folks are aware, as well as, writing to the paper asking that they post Atkins Nutrional's rebuttal to the NY Times article which they also ran. And if you would share this anyone that might be interested too, that would be awesome!

Carla


http://www.courier-journal.com/features/health/2004/01/hf-3-bod0122-8312.html


Atkins Diet faces the facts about saturated fats

BRYANT STAMFORD
The Body Shop

I have written about the Atkins Diet many times, and each time I do I get lots of e-mails.

The typical e-mail response scoffs at my stance, at my concerns surrounding the long-term negative implications of gorging on saturated fat and avoiding healthy carbohydrates, and then proceeds to tell me about the wonderful things that have occurred during the brief time the writer has been following the Atkins plan. How could I be so blind, so stubborn, so misled?

In my defense, I must plead common sense. Decades of medical studies point to saturated fat as the No. 2 killing agent in our society, second only to cigarette smoke.

Saturated fat is lethal stuff, and the less we consume the better. This message had finally taken hold in the 1990s, and we were making real efforts to reduce saturated fat intake. This is good.

Unfortunately, while reducing this bad fat, we increased our intake of sugar. This was a natural consequence of consuming low-fat and nonfat treats, because manufacturers loaded such treats with sugar to compensate for the loss of taste when removing saturated fat.

Thus, overconsumption of sugar became a plague that needed to be stamped out as well. As those of us who promote health began battling the sugar curse, along came Dr. Atkins, who saw a wonderful opportunity to make lots of money.

The Atkins plan was a brilliant marketing ploy, because it told Americans exactly what they wanted to hear. It told us that it was not only permissible to gobble cheese, eggs, bacon, prime rib and burgers, it was healthy.

Better yet, it claimed that all carbohydrates are bad, which meant we no longer had to be concerned with making certain we consumed those bothersome daily servings of vegetables and fruits. Wow! What a wonderful way to diet!

The only good thing about the Atkins approach was the emphasis on not eating simple sugar. The fact that Atkins dieters accomplished this is the reason why some good things happened to them, especially early on.

Unfortunately, the marketing skills of the Atkins group convinced dieters that good things were happening because they were eating lots of fat, and because they were avoiding "all" carbs.

Shame, shame, shame — nothing could be further from the truth. I have been screaming about this in my columns for the past several years. The truth is, on Atkins, the good things that were happening in the short run were happening in spite of the fact that too much fat and not enough of the healthy carbs were being consumed.

The truth comes out

Finally, after endangering the health of millions of Americans, the Atkins group has come clean ... sort of.

The Atkins group now acknowledges that consuming all that saturated fat is bad for you and has lowered its guidelines to reflect this incredible revelation.

The group suggests that only 20 percent of daily calories should come from saturated fat, and that ingesting all that red meat is a no-no. This 20 percent figure is still far too high (twice the limit for saturated fat set by American Heart Association guidelines), and such a diet is still dangerous to health, but it is at least a step in the right direction.

With 15 million books sold and a booming beef industry, why did the Atkins group change its story?

I'd like to say that it finally got around to reading the voluminous medical research that condemns its approach, and that the group suddenly developed concern for the long-term health of the American public.

Sorry, but I suspect the decision was purely economical — because the South Beach Diet, with its sane approach, is catching on.

South Beach tells us to get the simple sugar products out of our diet, but that's where the similarity with Atkins ends.

Thankfully, South Beach condemns saturated fat, and favors vegetables, fruits, whole grains and other complex carbs. Unlike Atkins, it's a healthy approach to dieting. Physicians have embraced it and are telling their patients about it. As a result, sales of "The South Beach Diet" have soared.

Biting my tongue

So, how have I managed to hold up under the incredible momentum created by the Atkins craze, to bite my tongue and avoid being surly and cynical every time someone told me the Atkins Diet was wonderful and, by inference, told me that I really needed to get onboard and quit being so old-fashioned and out of touch?

One, I trust that the truth has a way of making itself known, in spite of brilliant marketing and millions spent on advertising. And, two, all fad diets, without exception, fail and fade. The reason is, they can't work in the long run. I knew that it was just a matter of time before folks would begin to figure that out.

What I didn't do was invest lots of energy arguing and trying to convince folks who had adopted Atkins that they were making a mistake.

How can you turn someone around who has lost lots of weight quickly on a crash diet that allows them to eat good-tasting sludge and convince them that their efforts are foolhardy and potentially health damaging?

You can't. It's like trying to tell investors that buying too many high-flying tech stocks in 1999, even though the stock market was skyrocketing, may not be a good idea in the long run.

I have learned that you cannot save folks from themselves when they are determined to do foolish things. Heaven only knows how many times I've worn those shoes myself.

No, instead of wasting my energy, I saved my breath, biding my time, knowing the day would come when the truth would unfold and I could smile broadly and shout from the rooftops — "I TOLD YOU SO!"

The bottom line

If the Atkins Diet had emphasized ridding the diet of sugar, while telling how bad saturated fat is and how good complex carbs (vegetables, fruits, whole grains) are for you, it could have made a wonderful contribution to the health and well-being of Americans.

But then, it wouldn't have sold 15 million copies, would it?

Thank goodness the latest diet craze, South Beach, is correcting the foolishness that Atkins imposed on the American public for so long.

"Body Shop" runs Thursdays. Bryant Stamford is a professor and director of the Health Promotion Center at the University of Louisville. If you have questions or suggestions, go to his Web site at DrBryantStamford.com. Or address questions to "Body Shop," The Courier-Journal, P.O. Box 740031, Louisville, KY 40201-7431.

gotbeer
Thu, Jan-22-04, 16:48
Dear Dr. Stamford:

Regarding your article "Atkins Diet faces the facts about saturated fats".

I'm afraid that your lack of understanding of the Atkins Diet is undermining the credibility of your columns. It is one thing to criticize the diet for what is it, but you are attacking the diet for what it is not.

First of all, Atkins has NOT changed its position on Saturated Fat. The Atkins position was misreported by a NY Times reporter (who happens to be pushing a high-carbohydrate cookbook of her own). Had you made even one visit to the Atkins website lately you could have confirmed this.

Second, Atkins does NOT demonize fruits and vegetables - I'm eating more of each on the diet than I ever did before. Atkins does restricts some high-starch, high-sugar fruits and vegetables. Starch, as you should know, increases glucose levels even faster than sugar (sucrose) does - and you've admitted that restricting sugar is a good thing.

Third, Atkins does NOT demonize all carbohydrates. Fiber, a carbohydrate, is exalted in the diet, for example.

Fourth, Atkins does NOT succeed because of brilliant marketing - in fact, it took 3 decades for the diet to catch on in a major way. Any professional marketer that took 3 decades to produce results would deemed be a piss-poor one - NOT a brilliant one. Atkins has succeeded for three very important reasons: one, it works for a lot of people. Two, recent studies show that it is safe and effective. And three: the low-fat diet alternative has created an epidemic of obesity because it is too hard to follow, and counter-productive to boot.

I could go on and on, but it is clear to me that you are too personally invested in low-fat dieting to ever even seriously consider alternatives that may work better for some people. The truth will NEVER come out for you because you can't handle the truth.

The good news is that you are so out of touch with the fundamentals of the Atkins diet that fewer and fewer people will be taking your flawed message seriously.

Nancy LC
Thu, Jan-22-04, 17:11
Good job, Gotbeer! Too bad he'll never understand. These folks have too much riding on being right, their credibility, their jobs, their books, they'll won't ever admit they were wrong.

Grendeldog
Thu, Jan-22-04, 17:20
Gotbeer, that is an excellent and well-formed rebuttal. Good work.

adkpam
Thu, Jan-22-04, 18:37
Excellent response, gotbeer!
I tried to find the email address, was unsuccessful. But I agree in this case we are preaching to the choir: that is, we are talking evolution, and they are only listening to creationism!
I will check back. Glad to send an email...but people talk only about what means something to them. I thought I had found THE WAY by exercising like mad and eating low fat/high carb...thank goodness I found a better way. I don't know what my older body would have thought of the exercise regime as I got older.
Maybe I would be able to handle it...or maybe I'd have all the injuries I see in the med tent at the latest Ironman I attended...should we really be exercising THAT MUCH to keep the weight off?
I don't think so!

ellemenno
Thu, Jan-22-04, 18:43
What I would really like to know is how can someone write an opinion column if they don't take the time to have an informed opinion? People like this annoy me to no end, mainly because they give the plan such an undeserved bad image. I would think someone considering starting the Atkins plan would take the time to read the books and that someone trying to dispute the Atkins plan would do the same. Isn't it better to know your enemy when it comes to situations such as these?

I have to commend gotbeer on such a great response. I would have completely flamed this guy. Good work!!

gotbeer
Thu, Jan-22-04, 19:39
Thanks, good folks. He really made it easy, though, by being so painfully uninformed. I really pity the poor student who writes a paper with a contrary opinion to this professor.

Try this link to get into their email system:

http://www.louisville.edu/cgi-bin/uofl.mail?bryant

I believe this is his email address: bryant~louisville.edu

(just change the "~" to a shift-2.)

And for the smirking bastard's homepage:

http://drbryantstamford.com/

carlab68
Fri, Jan-23-04, 13:01
BTW if anyone is so inclined I also wrote to the newspaper itself. This is the editor of that section.

Arlene Jacobson 502-582-7147 Features section editor
ajacobson~courier-journal.com

Carla

Kristine
Fri, Jan-23-04, 14:14
>>"Decades of medical studies point to saturated fat as the No. 2 killing agent in our society, second only to cigarette smoke."

Where did he dig up that BS statistic?

cc48510
Fri, Jan-23-04, 15:34
>>"Decades of medical studies point to saturated fat as the No. 2 killing agent in our society, second only to cigarette smoke."

Where did he dig up that BS statistic?

Cardiovascular Disease is the #1 Killer if I remember correctly. If you subtract those who smoked from that figure, it would likely show that Cardiovascular Disease [not related to smoking] is the #2 Killer. Thus, using the flawed theory that Saturated Fat causes Heart Disease he came to the incorrect conclusion that SATURATED FAT is the #2 Killer in America. In fact, studies have shown that just as many people die every year [who eat large amounts of TRANS-FAT] as die from Smoking. So, if you were to remove those who ate large amounts of TRANS-FAT from the stats, I'd bet Cardiovascular Disease [not due to smoking or TRANS-FAT] would fall several positions, and probably below AUTO ACCIDENTS. Now, since we know Sugar, Alcohol, and Grain raise Triglycerides, which is an independent risk factor for Cardiovascular Disease, we must also deduct those folks...since their Cardiovascular Disease could well have been from those factors, rather than Saturated Fat. Now, we know that too much Sodium can cause Hypertension. So, we need to deduct those who eat excessive amounts of Sodium on a regular basis. Once all these groups are deducted, I'd bet you'd have virtually noone left with Cardiovascular Disease.

Of course, the average American who eats lots of Saturated Fat has Cardiovascular Disease, because he is also likely consuming copious quantities of Sugar, Grain, Alcohol, Sodium, and Trans-Fats at the same time. All the studies that have shown increased risk of Cardiovascular Disease in persons who ate copious amounts of Saturated Fat, were based on studies where the participants were also fed copious amounts of Sugar, Grain and possibly Trans-Fat. That's like doing a study to assess the risk of tumors from Cell Phones in the middle of Nuclear Reactor.

Samuel
Fri, Jan-23-04, 21:43
Here is a part of the e-mail message which I received from Atkins center concerning their stand on "saturated fats":

We want to assure you that when you follow the Atkins Nutritional Approach (ANA), the consumption of all forms of natural fat is perfectly safe. Let us also remind you that despite numerous studies that have supported the safety and efficacy of the ANA, the conventional nutrition community has no scientific research to back up its claims that consuming fat (including saturated fat) is bad for you in the context of a controlled carbohydrate lifestyle

So, Dr. Atkins has never said that saturated fats are not harmful as a general rule, he has only said that they are not harmful when carbohydrates are limited. Unfortunately, most people who are for and against Atkins tend to neglect this fact. Should'nt we try to fix the dispute peacefully by clarifying our stand to them?

IvannaBFit
Fri, Jan-23-04, 23:05
Any professional marketer that took 3 decades to produce results would deemed be a piss-poor one - NOT a brilliant one

I liked that line the best. hehehe

gotbeer
Sat, Jan-24-04, 19:42
No response yet from Dr. Stamford to my email to him.

(Not that I expected anything ever from the craven dolt.)

He has 24 more hours, and then I'm recasting my email to his editor (thanks, Carla!).

gotbeer
Mon, Jan-26-04, 12:25
Dear Ms. Jacobson:

Regarding the article "Atkins Diet faces the facts about saturated fats" by Dr. Bryant Stamford (The Body Shop).

Dr. Stamford has made a series of misstatements about the Atkins Diet that indicate he either lacks a basic understanding of it, or is deliberately falsifying information. In any event, his errant claims are undermining both the credibility of his columns and any publication that reprints them.

It is one thing to criticize the diet for what is it, but Dr. Stamford is attacking the diet for what it is not.

First of all, contrary to Dr. Stamford's claims, Atkins has NOT changed its position on Saturated Fat. This bogus "change" in the Atkins position was misreported by a NY Times reporter (who happens to be pushing a high-carbohydrate cookbook of her own). Had Stamford or your fact-checkers made even one visit to the Atkins website you could have confirmed this.

Second, contrary to Dr. Stamford's claims, Atkins does NOT demonize fruits and vegetables - I'm eating more of each on the diet than I ever did before. Atkins does restrict some high-starch, high-sugar fruits and vegetables early in the diet, adding them back in as weight loss and exercise permit.

Third, contrary to Dr. Stamford's claims, Atkins does NOT demonize all carbohydrates. Fiber, a carbohydrate, is exalted and encouraged in the diet, for example.

Fourth, contrary to Dr. Stamford's claims, Atkins does NOT succeed because of brilliant marketing - in fact, it took 3 decades for the diet to catch on in a major way. Any professional marketer that took 3 decades to produce results would deemed be a lousy one - NOT a brilliant one. Atkins has succeeded for three very important reasons: one, it works for a lot of people. Two, recent studies show that it is safe and effective. And three: the low-fat diet alternative has created an epidemic of obesity because it is too hard to follow, and counter-productive to boot.

Stamford claims that the truth will win out in the end. I agree, but the truth will suffer delays if it is misrepresented along the way.

The good news, however, is that Dr. Stamford appears to be so far out of touch with the fundamentals of the Atkins diet that as the truth spreads, fewer and fewer people will be taking Dr. Stamford's risible rants seriously.

Best regards,

Frank Edwards
Dallas, TX