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gtarent
Mon, Jan-19-04, 20:39
Since when does meat cause impotence??? :nono:
PETA's impotence ad a no-no with CBS
CNNMoney.com ^ | January 16, 2004
Posted on 01/16/2004 10:42:14 AM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29
This is PETA's Super Bowl ad pitch to CBS: Two scantily clad women try to seduce a pizza man but discover that he can't deliver "the goods". CBS rejected the ad. PETA says the network isn't playing fair.
Michael McGraw, spokesman for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), said the group used the provocative subject matter to make the point that eating meat causes impotence.
You kind of figure that out toward the end of the 30-second commercial when the two women express their happiness with a "vegetarian" delivery boy.
CBS rejected PETA's racy 30 seconds Super Bowl ad. CBS turned down the hefty $2 million that the group was willing to pay the network to have the commercial aired during its Super Bowl XXVIII broadcast on Feb. 1.
CBS spokesman Dana McClintock said the network rejected the ad because of its "general policy against airing advocacy advertisements.
PETA argues that's not true, pointing out that CBS had aired an anti-smoking commercial from Truth.com during the Super Bowl.
"CBS has no problem with airing commercial after commercial advocating the consumption of fried chicken, pork sausage and fast-food burgers, even though eating these products are making Americans fat, sick and boring in bed," PETA spokeswoman Lisa Lange wrote in an e-mail to CNN/Money.
"Our ad has all three of advertising's most popular elements -- sex, humor, and animals --so the network should jump on it." she said.
TBoneMitch
Mon, Jan-19-04, 22:22
Michael McGraw, spokesman for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), said the group used the provocative subject matter to make the point that eating meat causes impotence.
I'd love him to back that up with some science...For one, a low saturated fat and protein intake leads to diminished Testosterone levels, so it's kinda hard to reconciliate with what that guy said. What rubbish.
kyrasdad
Mon, Jan-19-04, 22:30
This makes you wonder how all those meat-eating early humans procreated at all. I mean, can we at least have a bit of logic, a bit of fact, behind all this?
I wouldn't mind a PETA ad during the Super Bowl, but the ad ought to have some science behind it.
ItsTheWooo
Mon, Jan-19-04, 22:30
Wow what logicians! Yes, warning people that tobacco kills is REALLY the same thing as scaring people into eating an evolutionarily unnatural diet, based on one small bit of quack science and a heaping full of a faith-like believe in some "proper ethical treatment of animals"
gtarent
Mon, Jan-19-04, 23:04
Actually wondering how the majority of people remain omniverous. One would think we people who indulge in meat would have limited progeny, while the vegetarians multiplied themselves to dominance!
Here is a link for the actual add, which is quite horrible in my opinion
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=super_bowl_30
Ethical, Truth, (PETA)
What a MIX. bit like
Mustang, speed, (diesel)
Lez
MyJourney
Tue, Jan-20-04, 07:21
Has anyone seen those Anti PETA commercials they air on Fox News?
The first time I saw it my jaw dropped.
The worst PETA ad I saw was the one where they target 6 year olds and show the evil mom holing up a skinned rabbit or something and it says your mom is a murderer or something like that.
These are sick people and I am really happy that CBS wont air their commercial.
MyJourney
Tue, Jan-20-04, 07:25
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/petaPetition.cfm
PETA's tax-exempt status was granted by the U.S. government on the basis of the group's willingness to conduct itself in a lawful fashion. We believe that PETA has failed to live up to its end of the bargain, and that the Internal Revenue Service should cancel PETA's tax-exempt status.
If you agree, please add your name and contact information below. Your "signature" -- along with those of thousands of other Americans -- will be used to encourage U.S. government officials to take action. PETA is currently being investigated by the IRS, so this is the perfect time to make your opinion known.
orchidday
Tue, Jan-20-04, 07:32
I am really sorry to see PETA go down this path. I believe that most of their work is on the right path. I am certainly not a vegetarian but the focus on providing better kill methods and more humane husbandry methods agrees with me. But once again, they go over the line and produce an ad campaign that is ridiculous, lacking facts, and downright offensive!! The whole campaign is just silly! What a leap - the pepperoni pizza is causing erectile dysfunction!
odyssey
Tue, Jan-20-04, 09:33
i have nothing against a vegetarian lifestyle. i even toyed with the idea of it years ago, mainly because of my love for animals(i've come to the conclusion that if i had to kill them to eat them i would *have* to be vegetarian - a cop-out i know but i couldn't even eat the chicken my grandmother used to cook after seeing her and my grandfather kill them lol).
Having said that, it seems to me that there has been quite a growth in the misinformation by more radical vegans and PETA members lately, or at least i have been seeing more evidence of that. i just read this letter yesterday(dated December 27th):
http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-menshealth&msg=153.1
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73 Diets That Didn't Work and One That Did
This is a humorous and inspirational true story of an obese woman who tried 73 different diets. They all failed. But she didn't give up! She finally found one that really works for life.
And the magic number is...
Address:
http://www.vegsource.com/mcdougall/messages/89565.html Changed:7:34 AM on Saturday, December 27, 2003
Diet plans are motivated by the desire to fleece the public and make money. Often, victims do lose weight for a few months, but they almost always gain it back, and then waste more money on another diet fraud. A typical overweight person has been through 7 or 8 diet plans and is still fat.
Almost no one in our culture has any self-control, so the only practical way to be thin is to eat food that fills you and satisfies you but is low in calories, like fruits and vegetables.
Is it possible to be an overweight vegan? Yes. If you eat lots and lots of vegan ice cream (Tofutti), vegan cakes, huge plates of pasta and rice, or if you drink gallons of beer, you can still be overweight. I used to drink huge amounts of beer with a vegan diet, but even then I was only a little overweight.
Being fat is one of the ten deadly sins. It is called gluttony. Of course, people with hormone or genetic problems who try to eat sensibly shouldn't be blamed if they can't help being fat. Some people really can't help it, and even a vegan diet might not bring them down to an ideal weight.
It is horribly cruel to torture and murder innocent animals just to please your palate. It also makes you look gross and disgusting.
A vegan diet doesn't cost anything. You actually spend less money on food, not to mention health care. As you get thin, people may even offer to buy you food!
Many of the people who invented fad diets were themselves sickly and died prematurely.
High protein diets like the Atkins Diet have been around for a century. Each time a new one appears, there is a lot of sensation. After a few years, people see all the sick people, the dead and dying, and the vast majority that lost weight and then gained it all back. Then the fad dies out until a new one starts about 15 years later. The sad parade of high-protein diet frauds is chronicled in the archives of the Self-Improvement Forum.
Stuffing yourself with junk food, fast food, and Atkins food is immoral and unhealthy, and, in the long run, you will remain fat and unattractive, as well as poorer in money.
It's a kind of poetic justice. People say "I don't care anything about animal suffering. I don't care about ruining the environment. I just want to be selfish and have fun in life and be thin." And they end up being sick, fat, unattractive, miserable, and poor. This is justice. Call it karma or call it the wisdom of Yahweh. This is how the world really works.
Atkins got his justice too. He died of a heart attack, which was covered up by his fraud empire. Because of medical privacy rules, his doctors aren't allowed to say why he died. His body was cremated. An autopsy would have exposed a diseased body, to go along with his malignant heart and soul. He caused millions of people to ruin their health and their lives, and billions of animals to suffer and to lose their lives. Where is he now? Hi Atkins. Say Hi to Hitler and Stalin for me.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/thin
http://forums.delphiforums.com/veganhealth23
http://forums.delphiforums.com/selfimprovemen
http://forums.delphiforums.com/animalfriends3
http://forums.delphiforums.com/truthseekers23
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such lies and comparisons really disgust me(and i am not easily disgusted)
TBoneMitch
Tue, Jan-20-04, 10:29
Are they a bunch of crazy morons or what?
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/naiveveg.html
Hellistile
Tue, Jan-20-04, 10:51
I would really like to know where PETA got their evidence that eating meat causes impotence and creates a boring sex life. Since starting low-carbing (and I eat only meat and animal fat not vegetable protein) 9 months ago, my libido has gone from -1900 to +2864. I feel like a teenager again and am ready to find a boyfriend fast.
EvelynS
Tue, Jan-20-04, 11:08
Hitler was a vegetarian.
A few years ago in England PETA members stood outside primary school gates and knobbled little boys as they came out to tell them that, if they kept drinking their milk, they would never be able to father any children!
The sperm count is definately dropping in the UK (don't worry there's still lots left ). Most think it's something to do with environmental toxins--PCBs, organophosphate pesticides, etc.
Dean4Prez
Tue, Jan-20-04, 11:30
Hitler was not a vegetarian, at least not in the PETA sense. Do we have to fight lies with more lies?
from http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/hitler_vegetarian.html:
Hitler wasn't a vegetarian, *was* a big fan of roasted game birds, but didn't eat them because they made him feel extremely ill, at least while he was Fuehrer (as if that weren't enough in itself), and was virtually indistinguishable from a vegetarian in the last 10-12 years of his life.
gotbeer
Tue, Jan-20-04, 11:30
Bacon and other nitrite-treated meats have been found to raise the NO2 levels in the bloodstream - which is pretty much the same thing that Viagra does.
FromVA
Tue, Jan-20-04, 13:26
Many of the people who invented fad diets were themselves sickly and died prematurely.
Atkins got his justice too. He died of a heart attack, which was covered up by his fraud empire. Because of medical privacy rules, his doctors aren't allowed to say why he died. His body was cremated. An autopsy would have exposed a diseased body, to go along with his malignant heart and soul. He caused millions of people to ruin their health and their lives, and billions of animals to suffer and to lose their lives. Where is he now? Hi Atkins. Say Hi to Hitler and Stalin for me.
Are they a bunch of crazy morons or what?
Yes...they are a bunch of crazy morons.
cc48510
Tue, Jan-20-04, 14:18
Hitler was not a vegetarian, at least not in the PETA sense. Do we have to fight lies with more lies?
from http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/hitler_vegetarian.html:
According to the History Channel, Hitler had a "Vegetarian Chef"...which would seem to suggest he ate Vegetarian for most of his reign. Whether or not it was for moral reasons has no bearing on whether or not he was truly a vegetarian. For example, I've eaten vegetarian at various points, falsely believing it was the best thing for me healthwise. I have never had any moral qualms with humanely killing an animal for food [the only exception being veal which I haven't eaten in 10 years]...and thusly have never eaten vegetarian for moral reasons. But, that doesn't mean I wasn't vegetarian at those points in time. Similarly, Hitler may not have cared about the animals [Hell, he didn't even care about Humans - especially Jews]...but, if he wasn't eating meat, then he was a Vegetarian. There are many reasons one could be a Vegetarian. Hitler and PETA may have had different reasons, but both were likely Vegetarians.
jedswife
Tue, Jan-20-04, 14:26
hitler may have been a vegetarian but he was for sure a DRUG ADDICT! so we should follow his example - yeah right!!
MyJourney
Tue, Jan-20-04, 16:20
From what I understood Hitler ate as a vegetarian because he felt that his first and foremost obligation was to be the best he could for the German people and that included being as healthy as he could for the German people.
That was also the reason from what I understand that he didnt have a wife (until the very end) and didnt have children. He didnt want his time split that way.
I dont think he was a vegetarian for any type of humane purposes at all. I think he also stated somewhere that he likes living off the land.
adukart
Tue, Jan-20-04, 17:12
Look what I found. It might have been out for a long time but I just now found a link to it from the CBSnews website.
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/petaPetition.cfm
EDIT:
Ooops, I gues you already posted this.
gtarent
Tue, Jan-20-04, 18:16
Actually after a little thought, I seriously doubt PETA ever really intended this commercial to air during the superbowl. I think they very well knew it would get rejected, and thus gain free distribution from word of mouth and news. (and I fell right into their trap, damn those sneeky PETA people) Thinking about it I wish CBS had allowed them to spend the money on a commercial which most would instantly dismiss, rather than have these funds to run programs terrorizing school children.
cc48510
Tue, Jan-20-04, 19:57
hitler may have been a vegetarian but he was for sure a DRUG ADDICT! so we should follow his example - yeah right!!
Absolutely...My understanding is that he was addicted to Meth...and even gave Methamphetamines to his SS Stormtroopers. The guy is by and a far a perfect example of the worst in humanity. He massacred millions upon millions of innocent people just because they were Jews or some other "lower" race. He was addicted to drugs and it seems, a vegetarian. The vegetarian part is important in the context that some vegetarians and vegans falsely claim that eating meat causes violence. One book I have by the Hari Krishnas even goes so far as to place the blame for several wars ENTIRELY on the eating of "putrid, dead flesh." It is obvious from Hitler [and the Animal Liberation Front] that eating a Vegetarian diet does not make a person a peaceful person and that eating a diet of animal products does not cause a person to become overly violent. In fact, let's not even mention Pol Pot...and his AGRARIAN society.
synn
Wed, Jan-21-04, 06:16
LOL
Impotence...
I am going to have to tell Jake this one. He isn't following the rules...sex is supposed to decrease, not increase.
LOL
*my sides ache*
EvelynS
Wed, Jan-21-04, 15:27
Dean4Prez.........Hitler was not a vegetarian, at least not in the PETA sense. Do we have to fight lies with more lies?
from http://www.urbanlegends.com/celebrities/hitler_vegetarian.html:[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the amusing link...I think "virtually indistinguishable from a vegetarian" will do for me. He fits my dictionary definition. What exactly is the PETA sense of the word, do you mean vegan? He wasn't that.
The funny thing is, his "abdominal distension", flatulence and belching after meals suggests that he would probably have benefitted from a low-carb diet! If he and Atkins meet in the ether, they might have a lot to talk about!!
2Airedales
Wed, Jan-21-04, 16:32
I wish PETA would use their ZILLIONS of dollars to do something useful like SHUT Down Puppymills, BU I bet you if we got to look at their donations that a lot of them come from giant Puppymills like the Hunte Corporation.
The Executives of PETA receive quite the cushy salaries.
Remember the campaign when they were promoting Beer over milk??? MORONS.
gotbeer
Wed, Jan-21-04, 16:35
Remember the campaign when they were promoting Beer over milk??? MORONS.
Ouch.
- gotbeer
2Airedales
Wed, Jan-21-04, 16:39
Ouch.
- gotbeer
:lol: Don't get me wrong! I loooove beer!!
It's the fact that these commercials were directed at youth.
gotbeer
Wed, Jan-21-04, 16:40
Ah, ok. Never mind. ;)
bvtaylor
Wed, Jan-21-04, 22:19
Since when does meat cause impotence??? :nono:
Michael McGraw, spokesman for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), said the group used the provocative subject matter to make the point that eating meat causes impotence.
I'm sorry, but although I care about the environment and the wee beasties, I think that the PETA folks are full of it. That's the biggest crock of .... that I've ever heard.
Diabetes, on the other hand, CAN cause impotence.
ellemenno
Sat, Jan-24-04, 09:14
Impotence...
I am going to have to tell Jake this one. He isn't following the rules...sex is supposed to decrease, not increase.
Yeah, same here. B's co-workers have noticed faster hair growth and he attributed it to a higher testosterone to bodymass ratio, which makes perfect sense, based on the following study:
Low Protein = Low Testosterone
High Protein = High Testosterone (http://www.ast-ss.com/research/breaking/b-r_1-20-00.htm)
A new study leads support to protein supplementation. Diets low in protein lead to increases in sex hormone-binding globulin in men, potentially reducing the availability of testosterone and causing loss of muscle mass, red cell mass and bone density, according to a report in the January issue of The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.
The new finding provides more evidence that high-quality protein supplementation can improve health, maintain muscle mass, and enhance quality of life.
Dr. Longcope and colleagues from New England Research Institutes, in Watertown, examined the correlates of sex hormone-binding globulin levels in 1,552 men, ages 40 to 70 years, who were enrolled in the Massachusetts Male Aging Study.
After accounting for sex hormone levels, the team found that age and body mass index were strong determinants of sex hormone-binding globulin levels in the men. In addition, protein and fiber intake were significant contributors to these levels.
The study results suggest that the natural reduction in protein intake with age, and perhaps even the tendency to eat less red meat for health reasons, could result in lower concentrations of active (unbound) testosterone in men. The decrease in bioavailable or free testosterone can result in declines in sexual function, muscle, red cell mass, and contribute to the loss of bone density.
The new data also suggest the converse, that a high-protein diet could increase bioavailable (free) testosterone and potentially "...mitigate the effects of the age-related decrease in that hormone," the researchers observe. Further studies will be needed to test this hypothesis, they say.
Kristine
Sat, Jan-24-04, 09:33
:lol: Just one more reason to hate PETA.
>>"I wish PETA would use their ZILLIONS of dollars to do something useful like SHUT Down Puppymills"
Amen! Imagine what they could accomplish if they'd stop terrorizing school kids and being general pains in the arse. Their name is a misnomer: they call themselves "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals." Well, if that's what you want to accomplish, go do it. Promote the kind of farming that the Weston Price Foundation promotes, and ensure better conditions for animals. That's not what they're interested in. They should call themselves something that reflects their vision of the entire human race de-evolving into pasty, diabetic herbavores.
FrecklFluf
Sat, Jan-24-04, 09:47
Well, the problem with that is that "People for Pasty, Diabetic Herbivores" doesn't have a good ring to it ... nor a good acronym. How are you supposed to pronounce PPDH?
Frankly, I think PETA is equivalent to a terrorist group, not only because of the tactics they themselves use, but also because of the tactics they advocate.
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