A proposal for the America beef industry

[William A.]

With the discovery of Mad Cow disease in a cow from near the
town of Mabton, Yakima county, Washington State, this long
predicted event has come to past. The impact will likely
ripple through the economy for months if not years.

Here is what needs to be done for next time.

There should be regions within the nation that don't permit
the importation of live beef from other areas. In order, to
keep the beef free of BSE without much question. These regions
would be the net growers of beef. Indeed, it might also make
sense to have these areas not import any killed beef from
other areas. This would be of benefit when Mad Cow rears its
ugly head. That way the effected regions and marketing systems
would include areas smaller than the WHOLE nation. And only
part of the system would be held in doubt by the public. Such
a structure would also help preserve international markets.

With strict regional controls of beef growing, cattle
movement, and meat marketing in place, Japan, S. Korea, and
Taiwan would only be rejecting beef from the State of
Washington or perhaps from the Pacific Northwest,.
depending on the size of beef growth and market regions
that I just proposed.

I suppose the areas that are largely none beef raising areas
could be "free trade zones".

Now we are left with the question as to whether Mad Cow came
from animal feed made in the last 6 years or did it come from
contaminate ground?
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What do you think? How would you limit the damage next time?

The status quo has a price...........
.......................William A. Noyes

[Rmp]

Main problem was downed cow meat getting into the system. A
ban on this did not pass th house. Obviously, due to lobbying
by the meat industry. The greedy scumbag farmers deserve it.

"William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> wrote in message
news:3fe97538$0$25366$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com...
> With the discovery of Mad Cow disease in a cow from near the
> town of Mabton, Yakima county, Washington State, this long
> predicted event has come to past. The impact will likely
> ripple through the economy for months if not years.
>
> Here is what needs to be done for next time.
>
> There should be regions within the nation that don't permit
> the importation of live beef from other areas. In order, to
> keep the beef free of BSE without much question. These
> regions would be the net growers of beef. Indeed, it might
> also make sense to have these areas not import any killed
> beef from other areas. This would be of benefit when Mad Cow
> rears its ugly head. That way the effected regions and
> marketing systems would include areas smaller than the WHOLE
> nation. And only part of the system would be held in doubt
> by the public. Such a structure would also help preserve
> international markets.
>
> With strict regional controls of beef growing, cattle
> movement, and meat marketing in place, Japan, S. Korea, and
> Taiwan would only be rejecting beef from the State of
> Washington or perhaps from the Pacific Northwest,. depending
> on the size of beef growth and market regions that I just
> proposed.
>
> I suppose the areas that are largely none beef raising areas
> could be "free trade zones".
>
> Now we are left with the question as to whether Mad Cow came
> from animal feed made in the last 6 years or did it come
> from contaminate ground?
> ------------------------------------------
>
> What do you think? How would you limit the damage next time?
>
> The status quo has a price...........
> .......................William A. Noyes

[Tcomeau]

"William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> wrote in message
news:<3fe97538$0$25366$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com>...
> With the discovery of Mad Cow disease in a cow from near the
> town of Mabton, Yakima county, Washington State, this long
> predicted event has come to past. The impact will likely
> ripple through the economy for months if not years.
>

http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3797510&p1=0

quote:
**************************
The Agriculture Department announced Tuesday that a so-called
downed cow, meaning it was unable to move on its own, had
tested positive for the brain-wasting disease. The cow, which
came from a farm near Yakima, Wash., was slaughtered Dec. 9.

Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman said parts of the animal
went to three processing plants in Washington State. But she
said there was no danger to the food supply because "muscle
cuts of meat have almost no risk."
**************************

I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry, to
allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply? How many
other downed American cows go into the human food supply on a
regular basis? Is this not a dangerous practice? If the animal
is diseased and becomes a downed cow, it still goes into the
American food supply?!?

The cow that was found in Canada went into pet food. It was
never even close to going into the human food supply because
it was a downed cow!!! And the Americans cast doubt on the
Canadian beef supply!!!! And shut its borders to Canadian beef
on this basis!!!

I wil never eat American beef again!

TC

[William A.]

"tcomeau" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b550f406.0312240931.7bc2900@posting.google.com...
> "William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> wrote in message
news:<3fe97538$0$25366$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com>...
> > With the discovery of Mad Cow disease in a cow from near
> > the town of Mabton, Yakima county, Washington State, this
> > long predicted event has come to past. The impact will
> > likely ripple through the economy for months if not years.
> >
>
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3797510&p1=0
>
> quote:
> **************************
> The Agriculture Department announced Tuesday that a
> so-called downed cow, meaning it was unable to move on its
> own, had tested positive for the brain-wasting disease. The
> cow, which came from a farm near Yakima, Wash., was
> slaughtered Dec. 9.
>
> Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman said parts of the animal
> went to three processing plants in Washington State. But she
> said there was no danger to the food supply because "muscle
> cuts of meat have almost no risk."
> **************************
>
> I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry, to
> allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply? How
> many other downed American cows go into the human food
> supply on a regular basis? Is this not a dangerous practice?
> If the animal is diseased and becomes a downed cow, it still
> goes into the American food supply?!?
>
> The cow that was found in Canada went into pet food. It was
> never even close to going into the human food supply because
> it was a downed cow!!! And the Americans cast doubt on the
> Canadian beef supply!!!! And shut its borders to Canadian
> beef on this basis!!!
>
> I wil never eat American beef again!
>
> TC

[William A.]

"tcomeau" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b550f406.0312240931.7bc2900@posting.google.com...
> "William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> wrote in message
news:<3fe97538$0$25366$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com>...
> > With the discovery of Mad Cow disease in a cow from near
> > the town of Mabton, Yakima county, Washington State, this
> > long predicted event has come to past. The impact will
> > likely ripple through the economy for months if not years.
> >
>
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3797510&p1=0
>
> quote:
> **************************
> The Agriculture Department announced Tuesday that a
> so-called downed cow, meaning it was unable to move on its
> own, had tested positive for the brain-wasting disease. The
> cow, which came from a farm near Yakima, Wash., was
> slaughtered Dec. 9.
>
> Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman said parts of the animal
> went to three processing plants in Washington State. But she
> said there was no danger to the food supply because "muscle
> cuts of meat have almost no risk."
> **************************
>
> I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry, to
> allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply? How
> many other downed American cows go into the human food
> supply on a regular basis? Is this not a dangerous practice?
> If the animal is diseased and becomes a downed cow, it still
> goes into the American food supply?!?
>
> The cow that was found in Canada went into pet food. It was
> never even close to going into the human food supply because
> it was a downed cow!!! And the Americans cast doubt on the
> Canadian beef supply!!!! And shut its borders to Canadian
> beef on this basis!!!
>
> I wil never eat American beef again!
>
> TC

Pet food is still not a good place for it. All cats are
subject to prion dieases. This could be the native wasting
disease found in both Canada and the lower 48 States. There is
a very serious concern about the various native wild cats
getting it and dieing. Dogs, wolves, coyote are immune, it is
said. In theory, the spoon that serves the canned pet food
would be a risk, depending on how it is washed.

Then you will never eat ground beef again, TC, if you want to
avoid American beef. Ground beef comes from nearly everywhere.

Yes, the meat lobby is at fault. It didn't work for reasonable
reforms when it had the chance. Rather, big beef spent its
time passing what might be called "anti-Oprah laws";
Washington State has a "food libel laws" as I recall.

...................William A. Noyes

[Doug Frees]

tcomeau wrote:

> I wil never eat American beef again!

You should eat less beef and more complex carbs anyway. lol

Come to think of it, if mad cow becomes a real problem and the
beef industry get shut down in the US, especially the fast
food shit beef. We would see a subtle spike is general health
if people ate more fish and good old fashined healthy carbs.
Maybe a blessing on the horizon.

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com

[George W.]

"tcomeau" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b550f406.0312240931.7bc2900@posting.google.com...
> "William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> wrote in message
news:<3fe97538$0$25366$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com>...
> > With the discovery of Mad Cow disease in a cow from near
> > the town of Mabton, Yakima county, Washington State, this
> > long predicted event has come to past. The impact will
> > likely ripple through the economy for months if not years.
> >
>
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3797510&p1=0
>
> quote:
> **************************
> The Agriculture Department announced Tuesday that a
> so-called downed cow, meaning it was unable to move on its
> own, had tested positive for the brain-wasting disease. The
> cow, which came from a farm near Yakima, Wash., was
> slaughtered Dec. 9.
>
> Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman said parts of the animal
> went to three processing plants in Washington State. But she
> said there was no danger to the food supply because "muscle
> cuts of meat have almost no risk."
> **************************
>
> I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry, to
> allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply? How
> many other downed American cows go into the human food
> supply on a regular basis? Is this not a dangerous practice?
> If the animal is diseased and becomes a downed cow, it still
> goes into the American food supply?!?
>
> The cow that was found in Canada went into pet food. It was
> never even close to going into the human food supply because
> it was a downed cow!!! And the Americans cast doubt on the
> Canadian beef supply!!!! And shut its borders to Canadian
> beef on this basis!!!
>
> I wil never eat American beef again!
>
> TC

Support the Akaka Downed Animal Amendment!

Senator Daniel Akaka's downed animal amendment to the
Agriculture Appropriations bill will prohibit USDA inspectors
at slaughter facilities from approving meat from
non-ambulatory livestock for human consumption. The amendment
is similar to the Downed Animal Protection Act (S. 1298 / H.R.
2519), introduced by Senator Akaka and Representative Gary
Ackerman. Both the amendment and the bill would encourage
those handling livestock to treat them with greater care
to prevent them from getting sick or injured, and will
result in more humane handling of livestock that do
become non-ambulatory. In the 107th Congress, the Senate
and the House each approved provisions, as part of their
farm bills, requiring humane euthanasia of downed animals
at stockyards, auction houses and other intermediate
markets, but this language was removed during the farm
bill conference.

. Downed animals suffer terribly. Animals too sick or
injured to stand or walk are routinely pushed, kicked,
dragged, and prodded with electric shocks in an effort
to move them at auction and slaughter facilities, en
route to slaughter. Downed animals may be left for
hours or days without food, water, or veterinary care
as they await slaughter. There is no excuse for this
unnecessary torment.

. Meat from downed animals is more likely to be unfit for
consumption. It has an increased risk of bacterial
contamination, and is at a high risk for other diseases.
A 2001 study in Germany found that downed cows were 10
to 240 times more likely to test positive for Bovine
Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE or

"mad cow" disease). The "mad cow" recently found in Canada was
a downed animal, prompting the President of the Alberta Beef
Producers to remark, "Cows too sick to walk, too sick to
stand, have no business being part of the food system. This
animal should never have left the farm." In January, USDA
concluded that if BSE does occur in the U.S., it will most
likely first be found among downed cattle. According to USDA,
downed animals "represent a significant pathway for spread of
disease if they are not handled or disposed of with
appropriate safeguards."

. A high proportion of downed animals are approved for
human consumption under current USDA practice. USDA
records from 1999-2001 indicated that 73% of downed
animals passed inspection for human consumption, while
just 27% were condemned. USDA records further show that,
of those approved, many had gangrene, malignant cancer,
pneumonia, or other serious illnesses. Data presented at
a recent Livestock Conservation Insitute meeting showed
that 14% of downed cows are Salmonella positive at time
of slaughter, including one cow in the study that tested
positive for Salmonella septicemia - a fatal affliction
that kills about 1,000 Americans each year. That cow
passed inspection and entered the food supply.

. Only a small fraction of downed animals processed for
human food are tested for mad cow disease. Approximately
195,000 downed livestock are processed every year in the
U.S., according to USDA. But the General Accounting
Office reported in 2002 that only 48,000 downed animals
had been tested for mad cow disease over the past 13
years combined, and USDA acknowledged in January that
only 19,990 cattle samples were tested for mad cow
disease in FY 2002 (the year with the most such tests).
USDA also noted that "downer cattle infected with BSE
often cannot be found by looking for the typical
clinical signs associated with BSE, because the signs of
BSE often cannot be differentiated from the signs of the
many other diseases and conditions affecting downer
cattle. Thus, if BSE were present in the United States,
downer cattle infected with BSE could potentially be
offered for slaughter and, if the clinical signs of the
disease were not detected, pass antemortem inspection.
These cattle could then be slaughtered for human or
animal food." Dr. Stanley Prusiner, who won the Nobel
Prize for his discovery of BSE prions and is considered
a foremost expert on mad cow disease, described the
number of BSE tests conducted by USDA as "appalling."

(please see reverse side.)

. It's reasonable to expect farmers to act humanely and to
protect public safety. Most producers already try to
keep their livestock from getting sick or injured, and
euthanize any that do become non-ambulatory while they
are still on the farm. With proper disposal, this is the
safest course, in order to prevent spread of infectious
diseases among animals and transmission to humans
through the food supply. USDA estimates that less than
1% of all cows processed annually are non-ambulatory.
This legislation would most affect the small number of
producers who are unduly subjecting downed animals to
suffering and human consumers to health risks.

. Testing for mad cow disease is best done at the farm,
not the slaughter plant. In a USDA-commissioned study
published in 2001, the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis
emphasized that the key to keeping our meat supply
BSE-free is dramatically increasing testing of animals
that die on the farm, not at the point of slaughter. In
fact, USDA already has a program set up to test sick
animals at farms, but the program has been neglected.
Some have argued that the downed animal legislation
would inhibit testing for mad cow disease by inciting
farmers to "bury the evidence" on their farms. But
farmers have the most to lose by exposing their own
herds to continuing risk of BSE contamination in the
soil, and to having a mad cow outbreak shake public
confidence in the U.S. food supply. Besides, this is
just one small part of a much bigger issue - more than 1
million cows die or are killed each year before being
sent to slaughter. How to dispose of this "dead stock"
in the most safe and economical way is an issue that
USDA is grappling with, as reflected in a Federal
Register notice published on January 21, 2003. While
that broader question is being resolved, it makes no
sense to continue feeding downed animals to American
consumers in order to preserve a system that tests a
tiny fraction of them for BSE at slaughter facilities.

. Americans do not want to eat meat from downed animals.
In September 2003, a Zogby poll revealed that 77% of
likely U.S. voters oppose the use of downed animals for
human food, and 81% are concerned that sending downed
animals to slaughterhouses could put human consumers at
risk for mad cow disease. Reflecting this public
concern, restaurants including McDonald's, Wendy's, and
Burger King have pledged not to use meat from downed
animals. The largest livestock markets in the nation,
including Empire Livestock in New York and Central
Livestock that serves the entire Midwest, have endorsed
the removal of downed animals from human food, citing
animal welfare and food safety concerns.

. USDA instituted a policy in 2000 ending the purchase of
beef from downed animals for the National School Lunch
and Breakfast programs. This policy was triggered by
USDA's recognition that downed animals pose an
unacceptable food safety threat. While it's clear that
schoolchildren deserve protection from unsafe food, so
do all other consumers.

For the sake of the animals, public health, and the long-run
interests of the U.S. meat industry,

it's time for Congress to ensure that meat from downed animals
can no longer end up on someone's dinner table! Please support
the Akaka amendment to Agriculture Appropriations.

[Hua Kul]

"William A. Noyes" <no.address@ctc.net> wrote in message
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>
> What do you think? How would you limit the damage next time?
>

I think the mainstream has no clue. I even heard a CNN anchor
refer to the cause of mad cow disease as a virus. No microbe
has ever been identified as the culprit. Even transmissibility
has not been proven.

Mark Purdy has done some fascinating research into mad cow and
has uncovered strong evidence that the cause is a combination
of a diet high in manganese combined with exposure of the
animal to copper chelating organophosphate pesticides. This
means it's not contagious. The beef supply is safe. Stop
treating cattle with nerve gas derivatives and stop feeding
them chicken shit (high in manganese). His research has been
stomped on by a consortium of chemical and pharmaceutical
manufacturers: "A lobby group that includes Bayer, Monsanto,
Novartis, Pfizer, Roche and Schering-Plough was behind the
effort to discredit Purdey. In December 1999, the same Dr.
David Ray was appointed to the UK Veterinary Products
Committee (VPC) -- a government body that licences animal
medicines." http://www.gene.ch/gentech/2001/Oct/msg00106.html

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Misinformation on ‘Mad Cow' Disease Threatens America's
Family Farms

The truth about the cause of bovine spongiform encephalopathy
(BSE), commonly known as "Mad Cow" disease in England and, to
a lesser degree, in France is not what you have probably
heard about in the major media. And now, as concerns about
the disease are spreading to the United States, many health
experts contend that small American family farms may be
subjected to destructive government regulations that are
being promulgated on false premises in the name of fighting
the disease.

This was the topic discussed on the April 28 broadcast of
Radio Free America, the weekly call-in talk forum with host
Tom Valentine, sponsored by American Free Press. Joining
Valentine were two guests, Sally Fallon and Mark Purdy.

Miss Fallon is the founder and president of the Weston A.
Price Foundation and publisher of Wise Traditions newsletter.
For more information, see the foundation's web site at
westonaprice.org or call
(202) 333-4325 and request the free 12-page information packet
that is available.

Mark Purdy is an organic dairy farmer from Somerset, England,
who refused to obey British government orders to spray his
cattle with organophosphates, a chemical, in order to fight
the warble fly. Purdy went to court to challenge the order and
won. His farm was exempted from using the spray. When the "Mad
Cow" epidemic hit England, not one cow in Purdy's herd
developed the disease. Purdy has studied the issue and argues
that Mad Cow is not caused by a virus, but is a result of
organo phosphate pesticides and toxic mineral overload.

What follows is an edited transcript of the interview.
Valentine's questions are in boldface. Purdy's responses are
in regular text. Miss Fallon's comments are in italics.

Here in the United States, the media was full of hype about
bovine encephalopathy, or "Mad Cow" disease, but you don't buy
the official version of what causes it.

Initially, I was very skeptical of the way the British
government handled this thing. Foremost, they blamed it on the
fact that cattle were fed with this meat and bonemeal
ingredient. What I noticed, however, that this was actually
sold all over the world, including the Middle East, South
America and South Africa and there were cattle in those
countries that never had a case of BSE.

As an organic dairyman, do you use that kind of feed?

It actually didn't go into organic feed in the early days,
because you were allowed to use 20 percent of the conventional
feed as it was called. So organic farmers did get that feed.
But what was interesting was that there was never a single
case of BSE in a cow that had been bred on an organic farm.

So it isn't necessarily the fact that animal parts are being
fed back to an animal that eats grass that is the cause?

No, I think this is a complete myth. There have been 40,000
cows in Britain that were born after the ban on meat and
bonemeal, which was in 1998, and they have developed BSE. So
how can the meat and bonemeal be the cause?

Some of the other European countries have really over-reacted.
Germany put down 40,000 cows just because of a problem in
Bavaria with three herds. This is a massive overreaction for a
disease that doesn't spread from cow to cow.

Were organophosphates used on those three cow herds in
Germany?

Yes. However, there are two factors involved in this disease.
It's a mineral imbalance caused by the feeding of an
artificial milk powder, laced with the metal manganese. When
an animal is young, it can't control the amount of manganese
that's taken up into the brain. What happens is that the brain
of a calf that's been fed on this milk powder is overloaded
with manganese to a toxic level. In later life when this
animal is treated with a chemical such as a phosphate
chemical, it interacts with the manganese and changes it from
a safe form into a lethal, chain-reaction type phenomenon.
It's a bit like a nuclear meltdown in the brain.

Humans have a problem with too much manganese. It can affect
human babies.

That's right. The soy infant formula is high in manganese and
this is at a time when a baby has no protection against it.
Mothers milk and cow's milk are very low in manganese and yet
it is in the soy formula.

I don't think people realize that baby calves are not
given mother's
milk. They are given what's called a "milk replacer," a
formula for calves, and they deliberately make it high
in manganese to get certain types of growth.

So the combination of this pesticide to kill the warble fly
and the manganese is what you believe is causing Mad Cow.

This pesticide is so powerful that it is designed to
penetrate the cow's skin and kill off the larvae of the
warble fly that actually live inside the cow. They actually
pour the pesticide on the back of the cow at the spinal cord,
which is where BSE actually starts. This chemical's effect is
to change the molecular shape of certain brain proteins that
affect the nerves.

Has your research had any effect on the British viewpoint?

No, the British have such a reductionist mindset on this
whole thing. Now, when I look at the humans who are dying of
this disease, I think it's just scandalous. They will not
look at any alternative theory that dissents from the
government's theory.

The government's theory has no evidence whatsoever, but this
theory has a load of evidence. For instance, at Cambridge
University—and you can't get any better than that—they did a
cell culture study where they looked at a brain cell and
bombarded it with manganese and took out the copper and this
produced the exact abnormality found in the brains of animals
that have died of BSE. Even though this was published in a
prestigious journal, it was completely ignored.

The Americans are being much wiser. When the warble fly comes
out on the back of the cow, they use organophosphates but they
use it as a water-based pour on, or as a powder. So it doesn't
go through the skin and get into the spinal cord.

The organophosphate pesticide is very economical, but the
organic farmers I know don't want to touch it.

It was never used in America on dairy cows because it can
contaminate the milk, but in Britain we were using it at an
exclusively high-dose rate.

I'm sure this caused the massive epidemic of BSE. In fact, the
government compelled the high dose rate. That's why they won't
accept the alternative explanation, for it would point to the
government's liability for massive damages.

If your thesis is correct, then the more than 100 people who
have contracted the human equivalent of BSE didn't necessarily
all eat meat from a BSE cow.

I think in humans it is the same sort of toxic template. If
you look at the clusters of human infection in Britain, which
are all in rural and coastal areas, not in towns, if it were a
matter of beef consumption it would be spread more evenly.

I've done environmental studies of these clusters and found
very high levels of manganese. They're all high in
oxidizing agents. A lot of the people in Britain who have
provided me information indicate, for example, that their
children have used head-lice shampoos which contain the
same kind of organophosphates. So I think this is probably
half of the problem.

In addition, consider the possibility that some of these
children affected may have also been brought up on
soy-based formula.

I think there is also a genetic element. A lack of copper in
the body also seems to be a susceptibility factor.

We get copper from animal foods: meat and seafood and so
forth.

Manganese is a necessary dietary element.

But when it accumulates in the brain, that's when it is
a problem.

We Americans should not take this BSE thing for granted. The
story that the U.S. Department of Agriculture is putting out
is that animals that are outside are much more likely to
contract these wasting diseases and I have a feeling that this
is going to be used against small farmers and grass-based
farms. We do need to be armed with the truth in regard to what
is going on with this disease.

The growing concentration in the American food industry is a
real problem. We have four processors controlling 80 percent
of the beef that goes to four companies that control 90
percent of the meat sales in America. Our Justice Department
doesn't see a problem with this kind of monopoly. The
situation is much worse than when Sinclair Lewis wrote The
Jungle. The conditions in these packing plants are just
horrendous. It all ties in to the BSE problem: the
industrialization of livestock management, the use of heavy
chemicals, inappropriate feeding and the use of milk
substitutes.

They want to raise the cows as fast as they can and as cheaply
as they can. Human nutrition is never considered.

However, the alternative system of grass-based farming is
growing by leaps and bounds and I'm afraid that the beef
industry is going to use the concern over BSE as a method to
block the growth of the competition from grass-based farming.

We recognize the need for some type of animal food in the
diet, whether it is milk or meat, but when these foods move
into the hands of the industry, they become denatured and we
get inferior products.

We want to get back to small farms and direct sales between
farmers and consumers. In certain states they are already
moving against small grass-based farms, such as the chicken
farms in Mississippi. The big interests want chickens to be
produced on industrial farms.

Mark, do you drink your cows' milk?

I've raised all of my eight children on my cows' milk and they
are the picture of health.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/Alternative_Health/21_Misinf-
ormation_on_Mad_Cow.htm
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--Hua Kul

[George W.]

"tcomeau" wrote:
> I wil never eat American beef again!

Nor will I. (Or any other nation!)

[Mxsmanic]

tcomeau writes:

> I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry, to
> allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply?

As long as it is legal, you can rest assured that it happens
every day. Cattle are worth a lot of money.

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William A. Noyes writes:

> Then you will never eat ground beef again, TC, if you want
> to avoid American beef. Ground beef comes from nearly
> everywhere.

Alas! Ground beef is about the only kind of beef I can
tolerate.

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Once upon a time, our fellow Mxsmanic rambled on about "Re: A
proposal for the America beef industry." Our champion
De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

>tcomeau writes:
>
>> I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry,
>> to allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply?
>
>As long as it is legal, you can rest assured that it happens
>every day. Cattle are worth a lot of money.

Actually, the problem is that downed cows go to cow food
supply.

Just thought that you might want to know. :)

[Jonathan R]

"George W. Cherry"
<GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu> wrote in
news:OFuGb.649000$Tr4.1659808@attbi_s03:

> Please support the Akaka amendment to Agriculture
> Appropriations.

The Akaka amendment was defeated, thanks to intense lobbying
by the meat processing industry.

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1865~18525-
31,00.html

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John 'the Man' <DeMan@fAaackk.com> wrote in message
news:<uffnuvcn801dmtk142cog8sb5un1bmicrr@4ax.com>...
> Once upon a time, our fellow Mxsmanic rambled on about "Re:
> A proposal for the America beef industry." Our champion
> De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
>
> >tcomeau writes:
> >
> >> I wonder how common it is, in the American beef industry,
> >> to allow a downed cow to go into the human food supply?
> >
> >As long as it is legal, you can rest assured that it
> >happens every day. Cattle are worth a lot of money.
>
> Actually, the problem is that downed cows go to cow
> food supply.

What about organic beef? Do these cos get fed like that too?

I can't live without beef. I tried but I need some. Would
organic beef be safe?

>
> Just thought that you might want to know. :)