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Angeline
Fri, Oct-03-03, 13:17
I’ll have what she’s having.
Montreal Gazette, October 2nd 2003

While watching TV with her husband, Brad the other night, Siobhan Mitchell had a craving for popcorn, so she tossed a bag of Orville Redenbacher’s Original Butter flavor in the microwave. This was not unusual. What made this evening different was that not a single kernel passed Brad’s lips, and Siobhan ended up polishing off the while bag herself.
For the past four weeks, Brad has been following the low-carbohydrate Atkins diet, which dictates that popcorn, with it’s high carb count, is a huge no-no. “And he has great willpower and I have none, so I couldn’t put it down”. Siobhan says regretfully. Last weekend, the couple wanted to order takeout, but because of his high-protein needs and her preferences for low-fat vegetarian, they couldn’t agree on one place and ended up ordering from different restaurants. Brad got chicken wings, Siobhan got pizza. “And I ate the whole small pizza myself. Before, we would have shared the pizza and now I eat the whole pizza”, she says incredulously.
These days, when they go out for dinner they almost always settle on Japanese because Brad is happy with just the fish and Siobhan with the sushi.
“We could go for Chinese food, but he won’t eat the noodle dishes and I just won’t let myself go there and eat a whole noodle dish –that’s just not good for anyone”, she says.
And ever since Brad went on the Atkins diet, snacks such as nuts have begun showing up around the house. “And nuts are high in fat, and I’ll have the nuts too even though I’m still eating all my regular carbs, especially at work, where I’ll have a bagel or snack on crackers”, she says. “The other day I bought a bag of those two-bite brownies – I don’t even know why – and he’s not eating them, so I end up eating the whole bag. He’s not cheating, and I’m not sharing”.
“I try not to weight myself, as I feel like I’ve gained weight. It’s really, really bad”.
It can be tough being married to someone on the Atkins diet. And on top of the dueling appetites is the ketone breath – nasty halitosis that results from changes in the body’s metabolism. “It’s really bad, it’s stinky,» says Siobhan of her husband’s breath. “He just says, ‘Yeah, I know’, and uses a lot of mouthwash.”
And while juggling any different dietary requirements in one household can be a pain, the Atkins diet has the potential to put the health of the non-dieter at risk. If the dieter’s spouse embraces the increase in Atkins-friendly foods such as meat, cheese, eggs and butter simply because that’s what’s in the fridge, as well as continuing to eat their bagel in the morning, pasta at lunch and potatoes on the side at dinner, they might find themselves with snugger-fitting pants and sky-rocketing cholesterol.
High fat and high carb is a deadly combo”, says Colette Heimowitz, director of education and research at Atkins Health and Medical Information Services. “It’s important for people to understand that if fat is not going to be your primary source of fuel, if you’re going to take it along with a high-carb program as well, it comes with certain risks.”
Those risk include higher cholesterol, weight gain and a higher likelihood of hear disease. The high-fat, high–carb diet, Heimowitz says with a hint of sarcasm, is the American diet in a nutshell. “And that’s why we’re all getting obese and why diabetes is at an epidemic scale right now.”
Leslie Beck, a Toronto-based registered nutritionist, has seen cholesterol levels rise in patients on the Atkins diet who added carbs back into their diets. She advises caution for the dieter’s family, too. “Because Atkins cuts out three entire food groups - grains, fruit and dairy – it can absolutely have a negative effect on the rest of the family,” she says. And Beck has heard the complaint from non-dieters that even though one person has cut out the rice and the potatoes, the cook still tends to make enough for all, and the non-dieters eat the excess.
Marc Simpson has been on the Atkins diet for three months and credits it, along with a rigorous exercise plan, with helping him lose 90 pounds. And while he is married with two young children, he says his new way of eating hasn’t affected his family.
“We essentially cook two meals. If I feel like having fish, I’ll cook Sharleen and the kids pasta. Otherwise, we’ll have chicken and include rice on the side for them. I don’t consider myself to be on the high-fat, high protein diet. The only thing different is I’ve cut out carbs,” Marc says.
And while his wife agrees that not much has changed in her diet since he started Atkins, she did experience some pangs of guilt. “In the beginning I felt bad about eating chips in front of him, but it was him giving me the OK. And I tried not to buy things like cookies, but now I do because he has a lot of willpower.”
Sam knows about good guilt as well, but his is different ecaus4e he is the one on Atkins. “Yesterday was your daughter’s birthday, and my wife said ‘what are you doing? It’s your daughter’s birthday. You’re not going to have some ice cream cake? And I didn’t because you cannot do that or you’ll screw yourself up for two weeks”.
While Sam is on Atkins, his wife is on Weight Watchers. “I keep thinking of the old nursery rhyme, ‘Jack Sprat could eat no fat, his wife could eat no lean’. Except we’re the reverse: I eat the high-fat stuff, she is in the low-fat/non-fat mode.”
But Sam says he isn’t bothered by the carbs in the house, and his wife doesn’t get upset when he eats 20-ounces steaks and five-eggs omelettes. “The closest thing we’ve had to a problem is salad dressing. Last night I refused to eat the spinach because she put her low-fat dressing on it, which has more carbs than the good, regular dressing.”
More evidence that Atkins spouses suffer is found n the many Atkins diet online message boards, where disciples bond and support each other in their new WOL (Way of Life). Shell from Minnesota writes on the Everything Atkins message board that her husband also gained weight when she went on the diet. “Seemed the more I lost, the more he was gaining. Then he went on Atkins and so fart lost 26 pounds.”
Amy Ed writes that her husband isn’t a fan of the diet because he feels he isn’t getting as much to eat now that she doesn’t make side dishes or put out bread.
And Becky B writes that she cooks two meals every night because her husband and two sons won’t give up carbs. “My husband eats what I eat and whatever else he wants, complaining most of the time because I rarely buy chips or regular pop for them anymore. My kids hate the pork rinds I use on my chicken, pork chops, meatloaf, etc, but too bad, they’ll adjust.
And just as Siobhan misses sharing a bowl of Chinese noodles with her husband, Ronny Kay – who jokingly refers to himself as Mr. Pizza Hut – says the worst part about the two years his wife, Barbara was on the Atkins diet was that the lost his dining partner. “Perhaps I’m not a very good mate because I really didn’t care if she gained weight. But I wasn’t deprived by having to hide chocolate or not being allowed to bring certain things into the house. I was deprived because a certain kind of loneliness creeps in with no one sitting across from me at dinner.”

National Post
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Lisa N
Fri, Oct-03-03, 15:13
She advises caution for the dieter’s family, too. “Because Atkins cuts out three entire food groups - grains, fruit and dairy – it can absolutely have a negative effect on the rest of the family,”

Excuse me?? The last time I checked, butter, heavy cream and cheese are all considered "dairy" and all 3 are allowed even during induction. Some fruits, such as Avocados, are allowed even during induction but others are only excluded during induction and are slowly added back in during the remaining 3 phases. Grains are not banned forever and are also added back in during the last 2 phases.
As for the people who saw their cholesterol go up "when they added carbs back into their diet", I note that she doesn't mention which types and in what amounts they were added. If you exceed your CCLM, of course you're going to see a return of the old symptoms. This also makes it sound as if these people were eating NO carbs during their weight loss phase and if that's the case, then they really weren't doing "Atkins" to begin with.
I do wish these dieticians would read the book before they go shooting off their mouths! :read2:

Angeline
Fri, Oct-03-03, 21:59
Yes it was painfully obvious that a dietician was once again spouting off old tired ideas about Atkins without bothering to do a bare amount of research. Seems to me that if my chosen profession was telling people how and what to eat, I'd at least bother to learn some basics before inflicting my opinions on a particular diet. I can forgive the man on the street for misunderstanding Atkins, but I can't forgive a dietician whose job it is to KNOW about major diets.

Putting aside yet another inane comment from a dietician, I still found the article interesting in the fact that it wasn't putting down nor embracing Atkins. Rather it was dealing with the consequences of it's popularity. Also the fact that the author bothered to get accurate info from the Atkins people.

LisaUK
Sat, Oct-04-03, 18:34
Whatever happened to will power?? My husband has all kinds of goodies in the house and I don't eat them - the woman who now eats the whole pizza to herself and all the popcorn really needs to exercise some self control or she's going to gain pound after pound after pound!

It isn't difficult to live with two separate eating patterns, I've done it for years even before Atkins, because my husband is allergic to so many things. It just seems people have to make a big ol' fuss just because it's Atkins.

alaskaman
Sat, Oct-04-03, 18:47
Wow, Lisa, those pics!! Lisa the ever-informed, we knew, Lisa the skilled debater, we knew, Lisa, the Vamp, is news!! Bill

meflowerg
Sat, Oct-04-03, 19:30
OH Lisa I want an outfit like that!!!! WOW! I am always looking for ways to be more big and beatiful because my weight has never been a source of negetive ego. I wear all kinds of nice under garments and sexy clothes.

Where did you get it!

LisaUK
Sat, Oct-04-03, 19:34
*immense blush*

Skilled debater? ME??? I always think I go in like a bull in a china shop! lol

Okay, that little number, believe it or not, it a long line size 14 corset that a friend bought in London. It can get your waist down to rib breaking proportions, which I don't recommend at all, but to have something to cinch you in is fabulous!

Try www.yosa.com - handmade stuff for the larger girl. I have met Yosa herself at a Goth club in London and she is one amazing woman. Her clothing is fabulous and wonderfully sexy. Go See! :D

*wanders off still blushing*

meflowerg
Sat, Oct-04-03, 19:59
OH WOW nice web page ! I love it. I have one I will have to find for you! It is all the undergarments from Holland for us fuller figuered women! :-)

LisaUK
Sun, Oct-05-03, 09:44
Thanks Amanda! :D

bvtaylor
Sun, Oct-05-03, 13:43
For me and for my whole family, Atkins has become a way of life. Not so much the induction portion, but the focus on better quality food, the reduction in sugar, and balancing fats, proteins, and carbohydrates.

There are some changes that I've made across the board for my family who is not on a "low-carb" diet, that have gone through smoothly and help keep my husband and I away from temptation.

I have two young kids who are borderline ADHD, and watching their nutrition has been immensely helpful with their behavior. For breakfast, instead of pancakes or cereal, they eat eggs and waffles (without much fuss), and a glass of whole milk. I also use Log Cabin Sugar-Free syrup--I have had no complaints about it at all.

One of the major household things is eliminating all regular sugared drinks. The kids like Splenda and don't care if what they eat is sweetened with sugar or not. All four of them are big fans of Fruit2Oh and Diet Rite sodas. I've never had my kids ask for the "regular" soda at home.

The second thing is a hard look at improving snack selection. Young active children are hard to keep fed with quality food and do have a tolerance for more carbs than we less active grownups, so I give them a little leeway. I encourage peanuts (and nuts in general) as snacks, as well as cheese sticks and fruit. When I buy packaged stuff, I try to buy it in single serve packages and put it in a "snack basket" to help with portion control. Also when buying, I try to watch particularly the amount of protein in prepared snacks because most of them don't have much, but have an abundance of carbohydrates. I've found that cheese crackers and peanut butter crackers are perhaps a wee bit better than some other snacks (hopefully the trans fats issue will get resolved in the next few years).

The third thing is looking at meals as a whole to see what I can do to help. I make mashed potatoes for the kids without water, but instead completely with whole milk, so they get a little more balanced nutrition (and the potatoes are a bit more filling). I switched to whole-wheat bread (no complaints) for the fiber, and if I bake, I often add quite a bit of flaxmeal into the recipes. Natural peanut butter and lower-sugar jelly are hits at our house--zero complaints from the kids.

For my husband and I to avoid "temptation" we are avidly exploring the realm of low-carb cuisine. We ate nice big bakery bagels for an afternoon snack today. 15 g carb, 12 g fiber, and very very tasty (Low Carb Emporium 1 800 998 7887, manufactured for www.deepdiscountnutrion.com). We found some divine crackers (Andre's Carbo Save Country Onion Crackerbread) with 1 net gram of carbohydrate per cracker (which is about the size of 3 saltines but more crunchy and satisfying). I bake low carb muffins, cooking them in a square glass pan (adding an egg and some flax meal) for maximum moisture and flavor. Atkins Quick Quisine lemon poppyseed muffins (2 net carbs) are particularly good, although we like all the ones we have tried so far (cranberry orange, banana nut). I bake low-carb bread, Carb Sense Harvest Wheat, which is very good in my bread machine. When the kids have pasta, we use Keto Spaghetti (which has 5 net grams per serving and has the consistency of rice noodles)--which is very good with an alfredo sauce containing sauteed seafood in fresh butter and garlic. I fry fish in grapeseed oil coated with Carb Sense Zero Carb baking mix+seasonings (like pepper, salt, onion flakes). Can't tell the difference.

So far I can replace all my former craving/comfort foods with something I like. Oatmeal or Cream of Wheat becomes FlaxOMeal, chocolate abounds low-carb--for quality Russell Stover is great, as is CarbOLite, I can eat low carb bread, spaghetti, soda pop, crackers. Plus, I add a lot of snacks/foods I have truly missed like regular cheese, nuts, real butter, eggs, cream, and a nice piece of steak. I'm discovering the variety of pork rinds (they taste differently from brand to brand).

No, I don't think that either my non-low-carb family nor my low-carb family has much to complain about.

Atkins for life--it's not just a book anymore!

adkpam
Wed, Oct-08-03, 09:33
That sounds great, bvtaylor! Especially steering the kids towards better choices.
Funny thing, when everybody was supposed to eat low fat, there weren't any articles about "Cake Eating Husband Endangers Wife" and the like.

meflowerg
Fri, Oct-10-03, 11:44
Hey everyone! I am moving some things from Ga to TN this weekend. Pray I don't cheat! I have already planned my fast food meals. Not exactly what I want at home, but it is better than full fledge cheating. I am taking food with me also. I am plannign to eat alot of McDonalds salads (no dressing - too many carbs), and the meat from the sandwiches. I have picked McDonalds because of their wonderful nutritional web site. I can look up EVERYTHING!

I also am bring many low carbs snacks with me. Including splenda for my bottled water. My plans are to actually drink unsweet tea with splenda, so the caffiene will be one cheat! So pray, I don't have too many of those. I don't mind NOT losing weight while I am gone. I just want to MAINTAIN!

I will report how I did when I get back.

Thank you Everyone!