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Anth
Mon, Jul-07-03, 19:16
Hi My sister which I am caring for is mentally impaired (40
year old and maybe brain of 10) I am concerned that she isn't
getting enough nutrition. I don't want her to pop vitamin
pills or force her to eat just so she gets the required
amounts. Recently she's been saying that it's too hot and she
doesn't want to eat. A typical day for her is as follows
Breakfast - maybe some muesli and a cup of tea. Dinner -
she's fed whatever is give to her in the day care centre. Tea
- she comes home and eats whatever I put down (well in theory
but not in fact) After that not much else. Tea is the main
meal for me - I try to get her a natural fruit juice and a
selection of fruits, but she is more inclined to eat sweet
things like cakes and biscuits. She doesn't eat a lot so
whatever I give her in one meal would have to be chock full
of goodness in a small enough parcel with enough nutrition to
last her through the day. She is overweight and is on heart
medications which I suspect is due to her weight problem.
Also whatever I give her would have to be beneficial for her
health in general and maybe lower risks of other diseases. (I
have been hit by cancer twice in the space of a year with my
mam and dad, and I don't want to go through this again)
Thanks Anth

Ben A. Gre
Tue, Jul-08-03, 19:14
What makes you think she is not getting good nutrition? If she
is overweight, I certainly would not encourage her to eat when
she is not hungry.

The cakes and biscuits are not good, according to the
up-and-coming low-carb theory of nutrition. By that theory,
you should rather provide roast beef or pork chops. At
least low-fat milk or yogurt. She should get some protein
at every meal.

Ben

"Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:3f09700b$0$45174$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net...
> Hi My sister which I am caring for is mentally impaired (40
> year old and
maybe
> brain of 10) I am concerned that she isn't getting enough
> nutrition. I don't want her
to
> pop vitamin pills or force her to eat just so she gets the
> required
amounts.
> Recently she's been saying that it's too hot and she doesn't
> want to eat.
A
> typical day for her is as follows Breakfast - maybe some
> muesli and a cup of tea. Dinner - she's fed whatever is give
> to her in the day care centre. Tea - she comes home and eats
> whatever I put down (well in theory but not
in
> fact) After that not much else. Tea is the main meal for me
> - I try to get her a natural fruit juice and a selection of
> fruits, but she is more inclined to eat sweet things like
cakes
> and biscuits. She doesn't eat a lot so whatever I give her
> in one meal would have to be chock full of goodness in a
> small enough parcel with enough nutrition to last her
> through the day. She is overweight and is on heart
> medications which I suspect is due to
her
> weight problem. Also whatever I give her would have to be
> beneficial for her health in general and maybe lower risks
> of other diseases. (I have been hit by cancer twice in the
> space of a year with my mam and
dad,
> and I don't want to go through this again) Thanks Anth

Klmok
Wed, Jul-09-03, 19:14
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:13 +0100, "Anth"
<anon@anon.com> wrote:

>Hi My sister which I am caring for is mentally impaired (40
>year old and maybe brain of 10) I am concerned that she isn't
>getting enough nutrition. I don't want her to pop vitamin
>pills or force her to eat just so she gets the required
>amounts. Recently she's been saying that it's too hot and she
>doesn't want to eat.

I don't know if this will help but the "I feel hot" part
caught my attention. For years I always felt that way (plus
other discomforts) and my comfort temp in winter was nearer 62
deg F. Naturally everyone else in the family and visitors
complain. Yet my measured body temp was and is normal and on
hot summer days I don't feel too uncomfortable. My problem is
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, not severe but enough to screw up my
career, marriage and general feeling of well being.

The cause is food intolerance. "Hot" and many other vague
indescrible wellness problems went away when I eliminated
intolerance foods. My intolerance food list comprise soy,
gluten (therefore bread, pasta and wheat stuff are out),
legumes, starchy storage foods, liver, kidney and ethnic foods
your family will be unlikely to encounter (except herbal
Chinese foods. I like their taste and no longer used them
since I cook for myself and this turned out to be one of the
causes of my CFS.)

What I do eat is soft steamed rice with fresh meat (beef, pork
and a little fish ( I find chicken kinda slimy) and some vegs
(carrrots, onions, mushrooms) No peas, corn or potatoes. I use
minimal salt and no sauce, seasoning, or shortening. What
little fat I eat comes with the meat. Its a very plain and
easy meal to prepare, a real plus as I am retired and live at
home. This should work for yourself and your sister too. I
developed a taste for fresh food as is without the sauces
flavouring. What flavours I may miss I make up by going to the
Chinese noodle shop 2 to 3 times a week. I take vitamins once
or twice in a fortnight to allow for possible vitamin
deficiency.

Try this meal regimen and see if it works. Don't worry too
much about nutrition as what we really need is quite modest.
Third world people live on a bland diet for years and they
have slim toned bodies we would kill for.

Hey Rocco
Wed, Jul-09-03, 19:14
The most nutritional bang for your buck would be fresh
vegetable juices with added protein powder, and for taste add
some fresh fruit juice. Add some omega-3 oils into the juice
and you cover your bases. I use a fish oil from a company
called "health from the sun" It has lemon oil in it for
flavor. When I add it to juice, it's good! Also, choose a
protein powder that does not have high fructose corn syrup or
other sweeteners. Two brands I use are Jarrow and Naturade.

Rocco

In article <uPIOa.73057$8B.30434@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Ben A.
Green <ben@greenba.com> wrote:

> What makes you think she is not getting good nutrition? If
> she is overweight, I certainly would not encourage her to
> eat when she is not hungry.
>
> The cakes and biscuits are not good, according to the
> up-and-coming low-carb theory of nutrition. By that theory,
> you should rather provide roast beef or pork chops. At
> least low-fat milk or yogurt. She should get some protein
> at every meal.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> "Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:3f09700b$0$45174$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net...
> > Hi My sister which I am caring for is mentally impaired
> > (40 year old and
> maybe
> > brain of 10) I am concerned that she isn't getting enough
> > nutrition. I don't want her
> to
> > pop vitamin pills or force her to eat just so she gets the
> > required
> amounts.
> > Recently she's been saying that it's too hot and she
> > doesn't want to eat.
> A
> > typical day for her is as follows Breakfast - maybe some
> > muesli and a cup of tea. Dinner - she's fed whatever is
> > give to her in the day care centre. Tea - she comes home
> > and eats whatever I put down (well in theory but not
> in
> > fact) After that not much else. Tea is the main meal for
> > me - I try to get her a natural fruit juice and a
> > selection of fruits, but she is more inclined to eat sweet
> > things like
> cakes
> > and biscuits. She doesn't eat a lot so whatever I give her
> > in one meal would have to be chock full of goodness in a
> > small enough parcel with enough nutrition to last her
> > through the day. She is overweight and is on heart
> > medications which I suspect is due to
> her
> > weight problem. Also whatever I give her would have to be
> > beneficial for her health in general and maybe lower risks
> > of other diseases. (I have been hit by cancer twice in the
> > space of a year with my mam and
> dad,
> > and I don't want to go through this again) Thanks Anth
> >
> >

Anth
Wed, Jul-09-03, 19:14
Hi She's eating yoghurts etc but is not getting near the RDA
of vitamins and minerals. Anth

"Ben A. Green" <ben@greenba.com> wrote in message
news:uPIOa.73057$8B.30434@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> What makes you think she is not getting good nutrition? If
> she is overweight, I certainly would not encourage her to
> eat when she is not hungry.
>
> The cakes and biscuits are not good, according to the
> up-and-coming
low-carb
> theory of nutrition. By that theory, you should rather
> provide roast beef
or
> pork chops. At least low-fat milk or yogurt. She should get
> some protein
at
> every meal.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> "Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:3f09700b$0$45174$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net...
> > Hi My sister which I am caring for is mentally impaired
> > (40 year old and
> maybe
> > brain of 10) I am concerned that she isn't getting enough
> > nutrition. I don't want her
> to
> > pop vitamin pills or force her to eat just so she gets the
> > required
> amounts.
> > Recently she's been saying that it's too hot and she
> > doesn't want to
eat.
> A
> > typical day for her is as follows Breakfast - maybe some
> > muesli and a cup of tea. Dinner - she's fed whatever is
> > give to her in the day care centre. Tea - she comes home
> > and eats whatever I put down (well in theory but
not
> in
> > fact) After that not much else. Tea is the main meal for
> > me - I try to get her a natural fruit juice and
a
> > selection of fruits, but she is more inclined to eat sweet
> > things like
> cakes
> > and biscuits. She doesn't eat a lot so whatever I give her
> > in one meal would have to
be
> > chock full of goodness in a small enough parcel with
> > enough nutrition to last her through the day. She is
> > overweight and is on heart medications which I suspect is
> > due to
> her
> > weight problem. Also whatever I give her would have to be
> > beneficial for her health in general and maybe lower risks
> > of other diseases. (I have been hit by cancer twice in the
> > space of a year with my mam and
> dad,
> > and I don't want to go through this again) Thanks Anth
> >
>

Anth
Thu, Jul-10-03, 06:12
Hi Noted - thanks for the info - I think it's just a case that
we are having warm weather (from what I saw she normally ate
well) Anth

"klmok" <klmok@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3f0c60cc.8009487@shawnews.ed.shawcable.net...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:13 +0100, "Anth"
> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi My sister which I am caring for is mentally impaired (40
> >year old and
maybe
> >brain of 10) I am concerned that she isn't getting enough
> >nutrition. I don't want her
to
> >pop vitamin pills or force her to eat just so she gets the
> >required
amounts.
> >Recently she's been saying that it's too hot and she
> >doesn't want to eat.
>
>
> I don't know if this will help but the "I feel hot" part
> caught my attention. For years I always felt that way (plus
> other discomforts) and my comfort temp in winter was nearer
> 62 deg F. Naturally everyone else in the family and visitors
> complain. Yet my measured body temp was and is normal and on
> hot summer days I don't feel too uncomfortable. My problem
> is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, not severe but enough to screw
> up my career, marriage and general feeling of well being.
>
> The cause is food intolerance. "Hot" and many other vague
> indescrible wellness problems went away when I eliminated
> intolerance foods. My intolerance food list comprise soy,
> gluten (therefore bread, pasta and wheat stuff are out),
> legumes, starchy storage foods, liver, kidney and ethnic
> foods your family will be unlikely to encounter (except
> herbal Chinese foods. I like their taste and no longer used
> them since I cook for myself and this turned out to be one
> of the causes of my CFS.)
>
> What I do eat is soft steamed rice with fresh meat (beef,
> pork and a little fish ( I find chicken kinda slimy) and
> some vegs (carrrots, onions, mushrooms) No peas, corn or
> potatoes. I use minimal salt and no sauce, seasoning, or
> shortening. What little fat I eat comes with the meat. Its a
> very plain and easy meal to prepare, a real plus as I am
> retired and live at home. This should work for yourself and
> your sister too. I developed a taste for fresh food as is
> without the sauces flavouring. What flavours I may miss I
> make up by going to the Chinese noodle shop 2 to 3 times a
> week. I take vitamins once or twice in a fortnight to allow
> for possible vitamin deficiency.
>
> Try this meal regimen and see if it works. Don't worry too
> much about nutrition as what we really need is quite modest.
> Third world people live on a bland diet for years and they
> have slim toned bodies we would kill for.

Jeff Utz
Thu, Jul-10-03, 21:01
It sounds like your sister would benefit from a visit to a
nutritionist. You should probably talk to your sister's doctor
for a referral. In addition, many other factors could be
causing this, like stresses on her at day care, physiological
changes that occur as we get older or some illnesses. Her doc
should be able to help sort this out.

All the best,

Jeff

Anth
Fri, Jul-11-03, 19:13
Hi Good point - I will check that out with her social
workers. Anth

"Jeff Utz" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bekvpn$aj8@library1.airnews.net...
> It sounds like your sister would benefit from a visit to a
> nutritionist.
You
> should probably talk to your sister's doctor for a referral.
> In addition, many other factors could be causing this, like
> stresses on her at day
care,
> physiological changes that occur as we get older or some
> illnesses. Her
doc
> should be able to help sort this out.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jeff