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Pooh_n_Me
Wed, May-21-03, 15:13
CNN is going to discuss Atkins on the Wolf Blitzer program. It is on at 5pm - est and will be re-broadcast later. I haven't seen it yet - waiting for it to come on. Did go on a UK website and they're saying that it's a better WOE than thought before. We knew that - but good to hear good things about it.
Hope you see this so you can watch it.

ScareBuff
Wed, May-21-03, 15:29
Some folks just won't give up...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/diet.fitness/05/21/diet.studies.ap/index.html

ScareBuff
Wed, May-21-03, 15:39
Some folks just won't give up...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/diet.fitness/05/21/diet.studies.ap/index.html

whyspers
Wed, May-21-03, 17:10
This makes me so mad. Why are they so determined that Atkins won't work or that people won't stick with it? Why can't they just accept it as a viable alternative? Those who don't do well on low fat just may do better on low carb? Why is it so freakin' hard for them to just say it works very well for those who stick with it...just like those who stick with any other diet.


The report on ABC kinda ticked me off as well. I have the easiest time sticking to this way of eating. I can't imagine not eating this way and have found low carb alternatives to almost all of my favorite foods. I couldn't do low fat for two days...lol.


Anyway...at least now maybe the food industry will start taking us seriously and start producing good low carb products (like Hershey and Russell Stovers). Maybe soon low carb products will be easily accessible...even at the corner gas station :)


I'm going to try to make the chat at abcnews.com tomorrow at 3:30 est. Is anyone else going?


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Lisa N
Wed, May-21-03, 17:35
The other study involved 63 participants who weighed an average of 217 pounds at the start. After six months, the Atkins group lost 15.4 pounds, the group on the standard diet 7.

But at the end of a year, the Atkins dieters had regained about a third of the weight. Their net loss averaged 9.7 pounds. The low-fat dieters had regained about one-fifth of the weight, for a net loss of 5.5 pounds.

This is somewhat misleading because in all liklihood, they are calculating the weight loss of only the participants that actually completed the study. Why is this misleading? Because roughly 40% of the participants dropped out before completing the study, so at 6 months, the Atkins group was ahead of the low fat but by one year it's quite possible that those with the greatest weight loss had dropped out, thus lessening the average weight loss of the group and making it appear that those remaining had actually gained weight back when again, it's possible that those who remained were slow losers. Without actually reading the entire study (not just the parts that the media wants to emphasize), it's difficult to come to any accurate conclusions at all.

Notice also how the somewhat brush over the bloodwork results? If low fat had yielded those same results, they'd be trumpteting it from every medical journal known to man.

whyspers
Wed, May-21-03, 17:38
Did you also notice that even with those who apparently went off this woe, they still lost and kept off almost twice what the low fat bunch did.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I can't wait until these people have to eat their attitudes. I know in my gut that some day Dr. Atkins will be fully and completely vindicated and while it is mean and petty of me, I truly hope some people are embarrassed by all the things they said without a shred of proof to back it up.


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Bxnz
Wed, May-21-03, 18:58
I don't care what any of them try to say i know this WOE works and i love it. I don't get sick any more and i'm healthier than i've ever been :)

DebPenny
Wed, May-21-03, 19:23
What they don't say is of the 40% who dropped out, what percentage were low-carb and what percentage were low-fat. I'd be willing to bet that the higher percentage were those who were following the low-fat diet.

;-Deb

Groggy60
Thu, May-22-03, 12:54
They say the drop was fairly equal between the two groups.

michelle_d
Fri, May-23-03, 10:03
it is hard to even pay attention to the critics who can only say, at best, that low carb is "no better than" low fat. if they would just look at the people there would be no further controversy!! gosh. just poll this board! thousands of us who languished on low fat, tired, bloaty and starving (and grumpy) and now we have energy, muscle tone, need less sleep, ad infinitum. even if a hundred studies showed that low fatters lost just as much as LC'ers, blah blah blah (whih couldn't unless the studies were flawed!) i would still only ever do LC and tell everyone else to try it too. the proof is in the person.

michelle
220/216/140

Qball
Fri, May-23-03, 20:08
I really never considered "conspiracies" until I started doing low carb. It simply cannot be ignorance or stupidity for their reason to be so opposed to eating the only things humans have eaten forever. There must be more to it. I actually think the "sickness" industry is in panic in considering what will happen if most people were to do low carb. I hope they all must switch to a more "productive" way of making a living!